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>The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved.

He makes a pretty compelling argument, /mu/.

>> No.55675929

not really

>> No.55675949

shut up

>> No.55676004

I see you like memes, but you still don't have a job or a girlfriend.

>> No.55676008

>>55675916
Taking the opinions of anyone but your self seriously. That is retarded.

Ever questioning the validity of the music that the Beatles made. Consider suicide.

>> No.55677170

>>55675916
I dont know the background to what youre quoting but It sounds like you don't like the Beatles. Which is understandable, of course. To deny them as most significant or most influential is ignorant for several reasons.
1: You were not alive when they hit the mainstream to witness the effects they not only had musically, yet also culturally. So many things besides just their music influenced so many things besides music. Like hairstyle for an example, their bowl haircuts were unusual at the time and even considered long for men to have. 4 years later you have these long haired hippy asses running around.
2. The did many things never done before (at least not mainstream) while recording. Using tape as an instrument, sitars, flowing transitining between songs in some cases, and of course the idea of a concept album aka sgt peppers (Sinatra had done that previously but not to the extent)
3. They were bigger than big. When we think of a celebrity today we think of Justin Bieber some other shit. Bieber may be huge and sell millions of albums (mainly to girls i guess) but he has nothing even close to the impact of the Beatles had. Besides Elvis, nobody had recieved the popularity they had at the time.

Just compare how much music changed in 4 out of the 6 years they were around. It went from country, surf rock and lame ass pop stuff (like their early stuff) to the fuzzed out psych rock of the late 60s. You can hear the changes in their music and all the other music around before and after their time. Even if the beatles didnt do it first, their popularity brought most every style, technique, and sound they made to the mainstream "influencing" millions

We owe alot to the Beatles and if you dont respect that then you got your priorities fucked up, rather you like it or not. I promise you no matter the music you listen to, if its been made since the Beatles, 7/10 if not more of the artists you like are directly influenced by them

>> No.55677209

>>55676004
my mom thinkgs im cool

>> No.55677249

Isn't this more a critique on music critics than The Beatles?
Who the fuck cares about how much of an artform criticizing music is. This is just Scaruffi taking himself too seriously.

>> No.55677254

>>55677170
This is how a white, middle class person of that time would see things. Just about everything "experimental" that they did was already part of other musical traditions.

>> No.55677256

>>55677170
>lame ass pop

Your as bad as OP

>> No.55677358

>>55677254
But does that make it not catchy? Not clever or appealing? The Beatles made some of the best music that is known worldwide. Same with many composers of the past. There will always be contrarians. Be it Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Paul McCartney.

>> No.55677389

>>55677358
I like the beach boys more (but I still like the beatles, please don't kill me).

>> No.55677405

>>55677389
I like The Beach Boys too. I've liked em for years.

>> No.55677485

>>55677405
I never got why people have the whole "beatles vs. beach boys", I feel like both bands are outstanding (songs like We Can Work It Out and I Get Around are genius from a pure compositional level).

>> No.55677519

>>55677485
Dude, I love the composition of We Can Work it Out!
That German waltz thing in the chorus makes absolutely no sense and shouldn't fit there, but it flows perfectly.

>> No.55677560

>>55677519
If only they added in Rubber Soul (though Day Tripper can be left out, it's really weak when you compare to songs like You Really Got Me or Satisfaction).

>> No.55677587

>>55677560
Day Tripper is my favorite pre-rubber soul Beatles track though :(
That riff is my favorite riff of all time.

>> No.55677651

>>55677587
It's an alright song but pales in comparison to Drive My Car.

My favorite riff would be You Really Got Me by The Kinks or Jesu Todd by Burzum.

>> No.55677887

Go listen to the beatles on shrromss..
I look at you all..
As im sitting here doing nothing but aging....

>> No.55677932

>The Beatles are shit because they were popular, and popular bands can't be good
That's his argument.

>> No.55677989

>>55677405
I hate pet sounds, I can't stand entirely instrumental music that isn't classical or a soundtrack

>> No.55678005

>>55677932
Hipsters on /mu/ who would've guessed

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