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what's the appeal of it?

raptards and metalfags who can't appreciate art and need something edgy with a sick beat to piss of their parents

>>55520792
Same reason people hate Yoko. People who have no interest in that style of music hear it, don't get it, and loudly dismiss it as shit.

>>55520816
huh?

onkyo is a pretty wide genre. it doesn't have to sound unpleasant.

>>55520842
this is my point

It's a pain to listen to. I like free improv and all, but that album in particular is not exactly easy on the ear.

Gimmicky shit

>>55520816
Lel

>>55520803
it sounds good. it is three great artists channeling and moulding eachother. what is the appeal of any music?
>>55520828
why do people feel the need to do this though?
>>55520842
it is very pleasant.
>>55520870
what is the gimmick?

Onkyo is not good music. People only like it because they enjoy taking part in it. The sooner you realize this the better.

>>55520896
>People only like it because they enjoy taking part in it.
what does this mean?

>>55520896

>>55520792
To be honest, I've never liked this album.

I'm big into Yoshihide and I've gotten used to sachiko as a part of that, but something about this is just so bland. There a lot better onkyo albums, but this one got a good score from p4k afaik.

>>55520908
People only like it because it is an interesting scene and being involved with it is fun. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

>>55520792
I have considered this question before, and I have come to the conclusion they are stupid philistines, totally wedded to an fascist idea of what art 'should' and 'shouldn't' be and completely incapable of enjoying anything new and creative.

>>55520947
>People only like it because . . .
are you absolutely certain about this?
>>55520935
i've not heard a better onkyo album. this is, to me, the model of what good onkyo or even group improv is.

>>55520993
have you listened to Metal Tastes Like Orange?

>>55520896
i think it would be cooler to hear onkyo live

>>55520993
>i've not heard a better onkyo album

>>55520792
>>55520816
>>55520828
>>55520883
>>55520961

>>55520993
>are you absolutely certain about this?
Well, I do own a lot of releases, and I have been involved with the scene and others working in it for a while. The community is definitely a big part of it for most people in my experience. The music isn't great but it's interesting to see the stuff people put out. It's kind of fun.

>>55521041
gee what a great meme image, so original, thats going to make me delete all my onkyo now

>>55520883
>what is the gimmick
Minimalisitc yet pretentious

>>55521037
Go to bed Swedish autist

>>55521059

>>55521073
Music can't be pretentious.

>>55521044
you cannot say that that is the ONLY reason people enjoy it though. that is a massive devaluing of it.
>>55521073
>pretentious
how?
>>55521008
another great one

>>55521059
it's not the music you like (I like some onkyo albums too), it's the way you talk about it

; - )

>>55520792
>How dare people not like thing
>This is outrage
>I like thing
>Why you not like thing

the thread

>>55521041
>HEY GUYS WHAT ARE YOU LISTENING TO I WANT TO LISTEN TO GUYS GUYS
>HEY WHAT IS THIS STUFF YOU GUYS ARE STUPID THIS IS GAY MUSIC HERE'S A PICTURE OF A FEDORA YOU GAYS!!
you should watch this :^) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACNO-1oNuVA

>>55521121
see >>55521111

>>55521101
>you cannot say that that is the ONLY reason people enjoy it though. that is a massive devaluing of it.
True. There is one release (i don't remember the title, but it's on my shelf somewhere) that I really like a lot. Really, the enjoyment is taking part, and again, there's nothing wrong with that,.

This thread is all the proof you need that this board should never, ever be let near anything other than pop music and indie rock.

>>55521111
good morning good night is one of those albums that somehow gets picked up by people who have zero context or appreciation for what it is then loudly denounce it as shit and accuse others of just liking it for the image.

onkyo is one of the most harmless, carefree, and far from pretentious genres/scenes. it doesn't deserve this.

>>55521121
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACNO-1oNuVA
damn they removed the music due to copyright or something, watch this instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjbnfuhVhYI

>>55521204
the song they played is jam of a lifetime

>>55521173
>Butthurt onkyofag
Your music is garbage deal with it

>>55521193
onkyo fans and music are extremely ostentatious, and your own post proves, it by denouncing others and overindulgently praising the entire scene in one catch-all notion.

>>55521204
>i wonder if this is what it's like to be buster

>>55521331
the same thing happens with albums from every genre

>trout mask replica
>spiritual unity
>tokyo anal dynamite

>>55521413
>perverse recollections of a necromangler

>>55521739
yes?

>>55521204
>10:53
it's like DI Go Pop but actually enjoyable

I'm ok with this album. Definitely overrated because of the features but it's not bad.

Yoshihide and Sachiko can do so much better as they proved with Ground Zero. Plus there are much better onkyo albums out there.

>>55521953
sachiko did nothing in ground zero. she was just instructed to play samples at specific times.

>>55522060
>sachiko did nothing in ground zero. she was just instructed to play samples at specific times.
Didn't know that. Huh...

>>55520803
What's the appeal of Varese?
>>55520862
Fair reasoning but I don't think it hurts badly. It's calming IMO.
>>55520935
It got like a 7.? if that counts
>>55521117
People should like it unless they have bad taste.

>>55522128
yep she really didn't do anything until her empty sampler stuff.

>>55520935
Same here.
>>55520792
I like some onkyo and lowercase, but only up to a point. Good Morning Good Night is too much for me. And with music this minimal, when it's too sparse I just can't enjoy it at all — I either like it or not, I can't imagine making a difference between a "passable" onkyo release and a "bad" one. Same goes for noise.

>>55520896 >>55520947
This is a very pretentious and condescending claim. Just because you don't hear anything interesting in the music itself, doesn't mean you can know what thousands of people hear in it.

I don't know anything about the onkyo scene except for the names of the musicians; doesn't stop me from liking it. I like how clean it sounds, how it makes use of silence too (though Feldman or Rotor Plus can be even better in that regard), whether it's focussed on unpredictable. It's very contemplative in a way, helps me concentrate.

Then it depends on the albums; I.S.O.'s live album recorded in a temple is beautiful because of the contrasts between the "pure", clinical sounds in a very quiet environment, a bit like a simple drawing on textured paper or something like that. Toshimaru Nakamura has an aesthetic much closer to glitch with his NIMB series, it's music that goes "wrong" in interesting ways. Sachiko M is radical to the point of sounding completely artificial, but some of her works are beautiful too (Sine Wave Solo 3, NL) — it's as close as you can get to pure form with no colour or texture.

I don't listen to onkyo every week or even every month, I prefer lowercase too because it sounds more natural with more variety, but from time to time I honestly like it.