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Its my favorite Suf album. I listened to Illinois and Age of Adz (as well as the Christmas albums this past Christmas) and I liked them but never really listened to them.

But I can't stop listening to C&L. Every time I listen to it I cant not tear up a bit. My personal AOTY so far.

>>55340680
4/10

Michigan > AoA > Illinois = C&L > Seven Swans > Christmas Stuff > A Sun Came > Enjoy Your Rabbit

>>55341049
Michigan for Romulus alone

>>55341099
God damn that's a great song

>When she had her last child
>Once when she had some boyfriend somewhile
>She moved away quite far
>Our Grampa bought us a new VCR
>We watched it all night
>We grew up in spite of it

>tfw it ties in to C&L

>>55340680
There really isn't a track I don't enjoy other than Blue Bucket of Gold. It's definitely a 5/5 for me.

I'm real into it. Started at a 9, now that i've sat with it longer a strong 7.

Fav tracks: Death with dignity, Eugene, The Only thing

least fav:drawn to blood,

It ain't very dynamic though and I think thats a real strength sufjan has had on other albums, a lot of high energy manic stuff contrasting with the stripped down numbers. I dig the atmospheric Bon Iver bits though.

>>55341282
5/5 means perfect though....
and you just said that you don't enjoy one of the songs....

Already listened to it several times. 7/10.

Its lack of variety honestly does not bother me in the slightest and fits well with the themes on the album as well as the overarching narrative. I think it's easily his strongest songwriting by far, too.

Carrie & Lowell > Illinois = Age of Adz > Seven Swans > All Delighted People > Michigan > Enjoy Your Rabbit > A Sun Came

Each of his albums is great though.

Can't get enough of it at the moment.
As one who generally prefers Illinois and Michigan to Age of Adz, this felt like a pleasant return to form in my opinion.

>>55341339
Pretty much this exactly. Glad I'm not the only person who noticed the Bon Iver similarities in some of the more ambient bits. Them slide guitars. Solid 7.

>>55341353
You need to round things. A 96/100 would certainly be a 5/5. Otherwise your 5-point distribution makes no sense, it would be basically a 3-digit distribution (you would be weighted against ever using 0 and 5).

I think this is great. This and All Delighted People are maybe my two favorite Sufjan releases.

7.5

Favs: Death with dignity, The only thing, all of me wants all of you

Its fuckin disgusting people rate this anywhere near Illinois

Just managed to get tickets to see Sufjan in the UK. His show sold out almost immediately.

I love sufjan but he's not a good singer. The live performances of this album so far is proof of this.

>>55340680
I love the music but the lyrics go over my head

One of the less interesting Sufjan albums, a huge step down from the brilliance that was Age of Adz. Very little variation on the album, songwriting and production didn't do much for me either.

Favorite tracks are Death with Dignity, Should Have Known Better and No Shade in the Shadow of the Cross

>>55340680
I cried, but maybe that's just the place I'm in

It's really good but I still prefer Michigan, Illinois, Seven Swans, and Age of Adz. Just needs to grow on me more, I think. I'm loving Should Have Known Better, John My Beloved, and Blue Bucket of Gold.

>>55345373
Same, there was something going on with the London show website so I grabbed some Bristol tickets. Really excited.

>>55345373
me too, where you seeing him? Im going to the Bristol date.

>>55345712
>>55345710
have you guys got an email? mine confirmed tickets but said it had an issue with my email address

can't wait to see him, i've heard colston hall's a good venue - was going to see flylo last year but couldn't find anyone to go with

>>55345755
yeah i had a order confirmation pretty much straight away. Site crashed a few times though, prolly cos of the high traffic.

Ive never been to Colston Hall before, is it all seated?

>>55345755
Yeah I got my confirmation email with no problems.

>>55345794
it can be either seated or standing, for this it's seated.

you can look at its setup here:
http://www.colstonhall.org/visit-us/seating-plans/

my friend used to work there and says it's a great venue

>>55340680
>using an adjective to describe a number

I don't regret the time I spent listening to it, but I would not say it's an album that rewards repeated listening.

death with dignity, should have known better, all of me wants all of you, drawn to the blood, fourth of july, no shade in the shadow of the cross: all great
rest is forgettable

>>55345712
I'm seeing him in London.
>>55345755
I called the ticket office since the site was down and got the last set of seats lmao

>>55341049
This

>>55340680
its a white guy singing about his feelings over simple acoustic guitar tracks. ive heard this shit 100s of times

>>55345893
>john my beloved
>the only thing
>eugene
damn son where'd you find this

All Delighted People>Age of Adz>Illinoise=Seven Swans>Carrie and Lowell=Michigan>BQE>A Sun Came>Enjoy Your Rabbit

This isn't like an objective ranking or anything like that.

After letting the hype come down I'd say it's a good 7. An album based almost entirely on feels is good for a while, but the actual music lets it down (although those ambient sections are sublime).
I get the lyrics are the focus, but the music shouldn't be watered down because of that.
Great lyrics, OK instrumentation.

>>55347577

>>55341282

When I saw him live, Blue Bucket of Gold was amazing, he adds like an 8-minute freakout at the end that builds up like crazy and is really intense. I'm sad that the studio version isn't like that, but I don't think it would ever work well being recorded.

>>55348110
Nah, I think they could have recorded the live version (and should have, it was fucking rad). Sufjan has already proven his ability to record walls of angry noise (like in Impossible Soul)

>>55348152
it's unlikely, but i really hope professionally recorded live versions pop up of the songs that have been changed dramatically for the live shows, like All of Me Wants All of You or Blue Bucket of Gold

>>55348197
Yeah, that would be rad. The live versions in general were a lot beefier and more complex than the recorded versions IMO. They did Chicago as an encore but it was arranged to be piano based and spacey sounding and it ended up sounding pretty much exactly like Clocks by Colplay which was pretty funny.

>>55340680
It's absolutely incredible. Probably his second-best after Adz.

Great example of minimal (but not minimalist) productiom.

>>55341136
Does Carrie and Lowell ever mention a VCR?

A lot ofbthr conflict of CL was set up in Michigan and A Sun Came.

>>55341282
Blue Bucket is absolutely beautiful. It's a great conclusion to the album, and has the most powerful lyrical message.

After 2 hours I got ticks for this today. Might be a shit seat but I have ticks for Sufgarms.

Exploding Whale is a goat track

>>55344014
Illinois has some bad songs (Seer, Zombies, Metropolis) that add little. There aren't any bad songs on Carrie and Lowell.

Illinois is a better album, but barely.

>>55340680
I didn't think I'd be impressed cause I'm not a huge sufjan fan but wow this thing really grew on me, almost every song is incredible. it's a really great piece of work

C&L > Michigan > Adz > Seven Swans > Illinois > Enjoy Your Rabbit > BQE > All Delighted People > A Sun Came

>>55349766
> Seers' Tower, Man of Metropolis
> bad songs

I vehemently disagree with you

>>55349759
>After 2 hours I got ticks for this today. Might be a shit seat but I have ticks for Sufgarms.
Same.