What is the best post-pet sounds beach boys album?
>>55282828Well that was a quick thread.
>>55282828>mfw Student Demonstration Time comes on
>I like Beach Boys because they make happy music
Very difficult. Most consistent is probably tied between Sunflower and Friends. Surf's Up has one of the best songs ever written (Til I Die) and is really solid. 20/20 is incredibly underrated.
I say Love You. Maybe Sunflower. Surf's Up is overrated.
Pacific Ocean Blue
>>55282880>hey I don't really get the hate for mike love, he just seems like an alright guy>this starts playingOhOh no
love you is a masterpiece
>>55282880>mfw i "accidentally" deleted Student Demonstration Time from the album listing
>>55282982Man I hate this album. Love The Beach Boys, but I just can't listen to this.
>>55283058Usually I'd be against that sort of stuff, but I'd think I'd make one exception.
>>55282880First time I listened to Summer Days and Summer Nights, I got this hard for I'm Bugged at my old man. Now I think it's hilarious and one of the best songs on the album. It's so melodramatic and mocks their early career in a really clever way. It's like an extreme of the way Brian was trying to fly under Capitols' radar for the album and still moving forward towards Pet Sounds musically.
>>55283090that's cause ur a pleb and only like pet soundsmeant for you, anna lee the healer, passing by, busy doin nothing, when a man needs a woman
>>55283017Love You is of particular interest because it doesn't rely on SMiLE material. That's why it'd be my choice. Most of the best songs after Pet Sounds were off SMiLE and most of the songs had their best recording first time round.
>>55283090How come anon?
>>55283165Not true, mark of a true pleb is opinions like thisall the dennis wilson songs off 20/20 and sunflower, mike love embracing psychedelia kind of on friends, the carl wilson production style on sunflower especially, jack reiley era and beautiful emotional songs off surf''s up or hollan's mt vernon and fairwayalso the love you stuff relies on previous material anyway that would have been part of adult child
Till I die is basically a suicide song. Great stuff though
>>55283166Maybe I should relisten to it. I dig Wild Honey, Sunflower, Love You, Surf's Up, Smiley Smile, but Friends just pisses me off. It's so boring and typical.
imo everything after pet sounds/[smile] sounds like a step backwards. like they adopted some sort of post-motown vibe
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>>55283349I enjoy it for the funny/cheesy lyrics.>A MAN NEEDS A WOMAN>LIKE A WOMAN NEEDS A MAN>WHEN THE TWO GET TOGETHER, OH OH OHSounds like something stright out of a Zappa album or a South Park episode.
>>55283213I'm not sure under what circumstances preferring the SMiLE material could be considered pleb. Its a more conventional opinion I guess? Songs like Heroes and Villains were overwhelmingly more complex than anything the rest of the Beach Boys ever made. Between the elaborate orchestration/instrumentation, chromatically moving melodies that tend to be really complex and winding, the counter point, the multipart structure with the Cantina section/intro, etc. and the exhibition of how far a pop song can push three chord structure while still maintaining a cohesive and solid flow of ideas that is still really accessible and poppy. That on top of really great lyrics that still fit what must have been a pain of a melody to try and write over.
>>55282960Came to post this.
>>55283612>>55282960The beard makes the album>rip dennis
>>55282960BREAKS MY HEART, TO SEE THE CITYAND WONDER WHY, IT AIN'T PRETTY
The SMiLE Sessions, obviously. It's far superior to Pet Sounds as well.>>55283017What the hell are you doing ?
>>55283518Yeah this. It's really sweet and endearing.>WHEEN A MAN MEETS A WOMAN>THEY MAKE THINGS LIKE YOU MY SONI also love the contrast in Little Bird between the sections. Like Dennis is just giving this really pretty and sensitive delivery and then there's just the really childish sounding "NA NA NA NA NA NA" section. Best song Dennis ever penned imo.
>>55283715HONK HONKHONKIN DOWN THE HIGHWAY
>>55283518>>55283790That song is seriously one of my favorite beach boys songs. Brian just fucking nails that sweet voice so good.I wish they would've recorded more songs were it's just brian without and backup singers or doubling.
>>55283645thoughts of you is one of the most heartbreaking songs ever written
>>55282828Friends and Holland are pretty underrated.
>>55283909Definitely agree. Holland is a really good album that I almost never see getting mentioned in Beach Boys threads. It's probably as good as 20/20 if not better.
>>55283909Love You and Holland*
>>55283794holy shit i just started listening to this album for the first time and its catchy as fuck
>>55283859https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3TRns_zssMYeah. He had a great voice. Even without all the studio production, vocal layering and dense instrumentation behind him. Thing is though, I'm not sure I'd have been as impressed by a Beach Boys whose sound was defined by stripped back songs and vocals. Brian was a master at making elaborate symphoniesque pop songs. We have people like Donovan for the other stuff.
>>55283947It's amazing. Reminds me of pre-Pet Sounds. Johnny Carson, Mona, Honkin Down the Highway, Ding Dang. And fuck me I cry every time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfC2iovCzu4
Who here hype about the Brian Wilson movie coming out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lioWzrpCtGQ
>>55284011Well, dealing with vocal harmonies is probably his speciality so I wouldn't take that away from the Beach Boys. It's what defines them after all. But i'll do anything to hear a full album of tracks like When a Man Needs a Woman where Brian sings with his clear, sweet and powerful voice by himself and without any doubling.
>>55284058This trailer is far better than the one I saw. Touches a lot more heavily on the big dramatic issues in his life like Landy and the SMiLE stuff which is what I imagine is gonna be the focus.
>>55284163>>55284058Is Landy the REAL villain in the Beach boys legacy?
>>55284058Too bad they're making it into such a Brian vs Landy thing. And making it a love story just feels retarded. From the trailer, seems like it'll suck but you never know.
>>55284187He certainly did a lot more harm than good. Big thing about this stuff is though, there isn't one villain. SMiLE collapsed due to multiple problems. Mike Love bullying Van Dyke out of the studio and discouraging Brian was one of them. But the biggest factor was probably the fact that Brian was already unstable before he started taking drugs and would probably have had a breakdown soon enough anyway. Even without other outside forces pushing him to it. Landy then took an already broken and easily manipulated person and took advantage of him and fucked him up even further. >>55284249I do hope they take a bigger look at SMiLE and Pet Sound than it's hinting at and that the whole love story aspect might be being played up to get more attention. Still though, it looks like it's gonna be enjoyable and that it's well made. They could have done a hell of a lot worse.
>>55283401you listened to the wrong material if you sincerely think this
>>55284058>looking at casting for Van Dyke Parks out of curiosityThis is.... generous. No offence intended to Parks.
>>55284530wow.REAL vdp looks like your stereotypical nerdy kid, its crazy that this guy penned some amazing lyrics
>>55283017>>55283165>>55284018Y'all know what's up.>tfw copped a used copy of this for 6 dollars on record store day
>>55284347are there any specifics on what Landy did to Brian?
M.I.U. isn't, but She's got Rhythm, Hey Little Tomboy and My Diane are really great songs. Pitter Patter has a sick hook, and the cover of Come Go with Me is better than the original.
>>55284617charged him ridiculous amounts, eventually just doubling his monthly fee every month, loaded him up on drugs, forced him to write songs (which resulted in crap like 15 Big Ones), cut him off from his friends and family, had multiple assistants just follow him around and make sure he didn't do anything funky.his methods worked, i guess - brian looked very much in great shape after landy was done with him. but his methods were just deplorable and he was an extremely exploitative person.
>>55284596>its crazy that this guy penned some amazing lyricsHow is that crazy?
>>55284682You wouldn't expect a square-looking guy like him to be into amphetamines, let alone weed.
>>55284682because he looks like christopher mintz-plasse. its just a visual unexpectation.
>>55284596He turned into this really sweet looking old man though. Really great songwriter too. I'm really sad that he may not be putting out another album.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnZxl_oLVoESongs Cycled is some of the best stuff he's done in a long time. >>55284617>>55284681 Thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-K-n5op9nIJust look at the way he's got his arm around him in this interview, the way he talks for Wilson and how Wilson actually looks. And this was in front of a camera. God only knows how much worse it was behind the scenes. The guy just completely hijacked Brian's life and took over every part of it.
>>55284790shit, that hardly even looks like Brian..
>>55284951https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGfwkkm-GQIWhat about this?
>>55284679i'd rather listen to adult/child than the miu album
>>55284790songs cycled is really great, i don't see why it doesn't get more acclaim
>>55285099Oh man, Brian Wilson snapping his fingers and dancing to a Shortnin' Bread beat in leather pants. Priceless.
>>55283414yes correct
>>55285184It's inaccessible. There are black metal albums which would be more likely to chart than some of the stuff Parks puts out. The melodies are ridiculously winding and complex, song structures are so chopped and screwed that it feels weird to call it pop and it takes influence in it's instrumentation and style from too wide a range with all the Americana, Tin Pan Alley and other folk, art and popular music, Parks' voice is weedy and unusual, he writes really complex lyrics, etc., etc. That being said, there's little pockets of devotees scattered about the place that love him. It's the kind of music that means a lot to a few people rather than a little to a lot of people.
god, i just looked at the 20/20 album more closely. brian looks terrible. i almost cant believe thats him.
>>55285459kek
>>55285459Laughed harder than I should have.Also Bruce is the fucking man.
K Guys, I'm ready for a new BB album. Holland, 20/20, or MIU? Haven't heard any of those.
>>5528593120/20 is the most consistent of the three. 20/20 > Holland > M.I.U. imo
>>5528593120/20, easy. Then Holland.Don't listen to MIU unless you just wanna be sad. Not like every single track is abysmal (pretty fucking close to it though) but the actual experience of listening to it in one sitting is exhausting. Listen to one song per day or something. Or per week.
>>5528593120/20