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He fell off, hard.
Seriously he is such a joke, he made a jazz-fusion album, then doesn't even hire a group of musicians to help perform it live, instead he just decides to appeal to edm/ravefags and press play.
He singlehandedly put jazz, and every one of it's sub-genres to shame.

INFETTERENCE

Everyone loves him

I saw Flying Lotus a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn't want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.

He said, "Oh, like you're doing now?"

I was taken aback, and all I could say was "Huh?" but he kept cutting me off and going "huh? huh? huh?" and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw FlyLo trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like "Sir, you need to pay for those first." At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually "to prevent any electrical infetterence," and then turned around and winked at me. I don't even think that's a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

RIP

He's good and I like his music but this 2 minute jazz-tronic thing is gonna get boring soon

he tries to be some kind of hip-hop richard d james but fails miserably

if he keeps doing what he does the best he can be the next kanye west

Fact: Los Angeles is his best work.

>>55158408
Opinions vary.

>>55158415
>>55158425
This

He should have gotten crazier on you're dead and ACTUALLY made a real fusion album instead of knockoff jazz garbage with stereotypical hip hop very overt "undertones"

He should 'fly' right into the trash

>>55158487
That's racist

>>55158482

That's not what he set out to do though. If you want to listen to jazz fusion there's plenty of great stuff there already.

My only complaint is that jazz fusion is so lame.

OP here

I listened to many of his older tracks and I really liked his work.
I wanted to listen to You're dead for a while now and I just like to know if it's worth listening to.

>>55158493
What did he set out to do then? Make a cheap imitation of the jazz-fusion that's out there? If so, he succeeded.
He's making a mockery of every jazz artist that 'influenced' him. Seriously. I'm sure if one of the greats listened to the album, they might enjoy it, but if they watched him perform live, they'd realize he's a complete amateur.

>>55158504
do acid and listen

he's a psychedelic dilettante with a huge ego, he's the gaspar noe of music.

>>55158696
>implying Enter the Void and Irreversible aren't god-tier movies

>>55158705
>not mentioning Carne and I Stand Alone
lel

>>55158705
i like both of those movies and they're technically brilliant but fail on basic structural levels, especially with regards to the writing (and acting in enter the void's case.)

they're "god tier" if you're discovering transgressive cinema and "mindfuck" movies for the first time in your teens so be real here

>>55158720
the problem with noe's films is that they're just relentless nihilism with the intent to engage you on the most basic level of revulsion, they're not particularly smart and the means through which they're presented provide an illusion of greater artistic value.

>>55158408
He looks like that one guy in the 80s who would make weird noises.

Beep boop boop. Bzzzzzzt.

>>55158763
You mean Larvell Jones from Police academy?
That guy was fucking awesome

>>55158705
calm down m8

>>55158754
Man you would hate Holy Motors

>>55158934
didn't hate it but the imagery didn't do anything for me.

>>55158422
well atleast we can check

>>55158422
i lol a little bit every time i read this

>>55158507
You're a cynical prick. I hope I never have to meet someone like you in the real world.

>>55158476
This

>>55158408
this smug motherfucker needs a pepe shop

i cant do this with paint tho

He peaked with Cosmogramma, I think he's pretty much as far as solo output goes. People comparing him to Noé are out of their fucking depths right now.

>>55159555
trips confirm you should stop being such a paint scrub. paint is premium image editing tool and cannot be beaten.

Okay..I'm seeing him live. Is he any good?

>>55159318
Stop being so personally offended, he didn't say anything but a criticism of the artist and their direction. Just because someone thinks faux-jazz is shit and a mockery, doesn't mean they're a cynical prick. It just means you can't comprehend how to rationally deal with someone who disagrees with you.

I've only listened to Cosmogramma, UTQC, and You're Dead (though I hear LA is pretty good too). I really like all three of those albums, but there are points throughout Cosmo where I don't really care for what he's doing and I enjoy everything on YD up to Turtles a lot more than pretty much anything after it. No knocks on UTQC though, there's nothing serious that I dislike about it.

Reminder that flying lotus is the fedora-core in this board.

>>55158415
If he got a live band, they'd be mostly useless since 80% of his discography is full on electronic.

>>55161692
Out of all the /mu/core artists to label "fedoracore" you pick FlyLo? What?

this shit is awesome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi8t7Q40f9o

>>55158408
enjoyable stuff, but You're Dead! feels like it could have been so much more. Every time I listen to it I stop it halfway through and listen to this instead for jazz fusion.

The artists on his label aren't bad, but I'm not crazy for them outside of Thundercat.

UTQC > '83 > LA = CG > YD!

>>55158696
Proof?

Fly lo is pretty creative.
You're Dead and Duality are both very wonderfully produced.
Granted those are the only two albums I've heard out of him..

>>55161829
shit, forgot pic related

>>55158408
How is he as a live performer? I'm seeing him in London in May and I've never been to an electronic show before

>>55158476
Parisian Goldfish is his best song by a significant margin

>>55161727
UTQC is absolutely fedora core

>>55158415
>he made a jazz-fusion album, then doesn't even hire a group of musicians to help perform it live
Really? Damn I love You’re Dead, and I was hoping that he’d get Thundercat’s band to back him live or something.

>>55161707
BadBadNotGood covered his electronic stuff live and it sounded fine.

lo-fi unmusical shit for teenagers

>>55164196
>un·mu·si·cal
>/ˌənˈmyo͞ozək(ə)l/
>adjective
>not pleasing to the ear.
Huh, didn't mean what I thought it meant.

Also, my sincerest condolences to your baby ears.

>>55164405
actually resonances in his tracks can cause pain for ears. his music for people with hearing loss

>>55165186
Which songs?

>>55158415
So true. If it wasn't for his 3rd squared boogaloo, the show would be kinda dull. Why couldn't he get a band as well?

>>55158408
>>55158408
I'm a big fan of his, actually. I do still think UTQC is probably his best work, but I did enjoy You're Dead! a lot.

As much of a fan of his I am, I still think his live shows are disappointing. I saw him at Terminal 5 and the highlight of the night was Thundecat's little band on the left side of the stage playing a one hour medley of all the Thundercat tunes. FlyLo remixes all his tunes into EDM for live performance, and it's just not good. Him doing the Jesus pose as all the bass hit and the whole mask and cube thing is cool, but, frankly, if I wanted gimmicky laser sets, I'd rather watch Skrillex or Deadmau5 with their super high-budget shows; seeing as I don't really care to watch those either, anyway....


FlyLo would have a much better show if he just brought up Thundercat's virtuoso trio and performed alongside them, leaving the drums to that Justin guy, and just triggering synths and shit, maybe rapping as Captain Murphy, too (he did that at Terminal 5, but it wasn't crazy impressive or anything, since it wouldn't have felt that different if the verses were ore recorded, anyway).

But yeah, FlyLo, overall (apart from the live stuff) is brilliant. I think even the people who didn't like You're Dead! should stick around and see whatever else he has up his sleeve.

>>55165853
*prerecorded

Autocorrect is a bitch.

Seeing him on the 29th, what can I expect?

Better than Aphex

>>55165945
I'd heard before that his live shows are more EDM than IDM. It's certainly true. Get ready for some bass and trap beats, "bruh" - the best part of the show will be Thundercat's bass playing.

>>55158507
>we should judge music producers on their live show, not their compositional, arranging, or production ability

Hey, they say Bach was good, but forget whether or not he was a good composer. We should focus solely on his piano playing, and we should judge him on that alone.

>>55159318
>ad hominem
Good going with your objection, buddy. Too bad it's a blatant fallacy.

>>55159915
Do you like EDM shows?

You'll probably enjoy the Thundecat part, though.

>>55161181
Thank you.

>>55158705
>lets watch someone be raped for 10 minutes
>'wow so art!'

and this is coming from someone that likes a lot of films that some would call pretentious

>>55161692
What does this even mean?

The Kendrick track, as good as it was, was basically a pop track. You can barely pretend to be somehow patrician with it. I mean, I enjoy it, and as hip-hop, I do think it's too-notch, but, still, it's not really experimental.

>1983- 5/10 basic as fuck
>Los Angeles- 6/10 mostly looped drumbeats
>Cosmogramma- 9/10 it's like an instrumental Hip-Hop symphony
>Until The Quiet Comes- 6.5/10 some standout tracks but mostly filler
>You're Dead!- 7/10 more good tracks but still too much filler

>>55166114
Lol. Welcome to hell. Lets see what happens when artists can only make money from live performance. Were in the throes of the worst culture that has ever existed right now, largely thanks to the widespread acceptance of piracy as normal and Ok. Of course, stealing tax software is enforced. But strangely other piracy is ignored. Why?

"The album is just promotion for the live show hurr durr, it should be free."

Say goodbye to masterpieces like the white album, say hello to macintosh plus

>>55166251
Really? ITWC<YD?

>>55161855
Now theres a good album, flylo hasnt been good sonce cosmo

Youre dead was bad imo

>>55166262
You do realize I was being sarcastic, right? No one in their right mind would judge Bach on performance ability alone.

>>55166293
Not him, but it's really not that rare of an opinion...

>>55163730
pretty fucking gud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-u_7FcViBs

big mouth

>>55166262
The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved.

>>55166293
Wow, I really misspelled UTQC, didn't I?

>>55167098
>memes

>>55167114
Still better than seeing "UQTC"

Well he's a black man in America................................................................................what does that tell ya

I think FlyLo is really good.

>>55158476
Cosmogramma is my favorite FlyLo album

>>55158482
I love You're Dead, but I really wish he continued with his original idea of making an intense, noisy jazz freakout album inspired by Naked City

Back in 08 when Los Angeles came out it totally changed my music perspective and I listened to it almost every day the whole summer long.

Sadly his newer albums never had the same eye-opening effect on me (or anybody else I know) and it's sad that he has already reached his peak.

I've seen him live 4 times all around the world and he has an amazing energy and presence live and is a really fun guy. Always good vibes at his shows and his smile is infecting.

all in all i love flylo, but enjoy his live sets and older stuff way more than his last 3 albums.

>>55158408
Flygin is the superior lotus

>>55165945
See you there anon

all of his albums kinda sound the same, gimmicky tbh

>>55167878
i doubt you listened to all his albums

>>55167878

Cosmogramma sounds nothing like UTQC. His new stuff is far different from his old stuff.

>>55167202
He's inferior

>>55165945
>>55167670
Oh sheeeeit
Irish /mu/tant FlyLo meetup?

I saw him at Forbidden Fruit last year, beast of a gig. Played a whole load of random shit and his 3D visual show was intense, wish I was more than just drunk for it

poor man's Kanye West.

>>55158754
I'm responding to an 11hr old post here, but you know nothing about cinema.

>>55168674
Except he doesn't sound at all like Kanye, and Ye's recent production is rather generic, anyway.

>>55165470
Sultan's Request is one I know of. Don't wear earbuds though.

>>55168674

this has to be b8. if not, youre an idiot.

>>55169247
Oh yeah, I can understand that. They don't hurt my ears, but that volume spike is a bit annoying given the rest of the album.

Sorry for being a dick.

His first album is interesting to see the level he started at, but I don't find myself listening to it anymore.

Los Angeles is great, he became aware of his own style and put it to great use. I will still just let that whole album run in the background while working on stuff and always have a good time.

Cosmogramma is a high-point. He took the sound of Los Angeles and pushed it further while mixing in some new influences and I just love it.

Until the Quiet Comes was kind of a let down for me. Instead of continuing his upward growth it felt like a more contained and polished version of what he was before. It's good but I rarely think of it much.

You're Dead! finds FlyLo back on that trajectory of pushing his sound upward. I love it. It's very Flying Lotus but still refreshing and "now". I would say it is his best but I know others would disagree. It exceeded what I would expect of Flying Lotus at this point in his art. Not only is the sound forward-thinking from his previous stuff but it's also wrapped in a satisfying conceptual sleeve which displays an artistic maturity.

The thing is, You're Dead! doesn't signify, to me, an ultimate peak but an additional one the way Cosmogramma did. Flying Lotus still has the capabilities to put out another great album and that is what is most exciting about him.

The live discussion is uninteresting to me. I've only seen him once, at last years FYF and it was a highlight at the festival. Maybe if I see him solo on tour a bunch of times I'd get tired of it and want more but as of now I don't care. I like to watch artists live just to have a good time, not critically analyze whether it meets the musicianship level of the composed recording.

Anyways, you're all being too hard. Music today is more interesting with someone like Flying Lotus out there.

los angeles and cosmogramma are his pinnacle, UTQC is good if it's snowing and you're feelin melancholic, but the rest is beyond enjoying

Los Angeles > UTQC > Cosmograma > Duality > You're Dead!

>>55169693
Op here again. I'm glad that this thread has still such a conversation growing. It's interesting to see what everyone thinks.

You're pretty much me with that opinion. Flying Lotu creates a really fresh sound and every track I heard from him put me in a good mood.
I never saw him live though. I hope I will someday. From what I've read here, it sounds pretty interesting.