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>listen to friend's favourite album
>it's total shit
>ask him what's so good about it
>he just keeps talking about how "personal" it is to him and how it's "helped him through hard times"

why do people do this?

>> No.55123173

>>55123154
how shitty of your friend to share something he likes with you

>> No.55123191

>>55123154
what album op?

>> No.55123208

>having friends

>> No.55123209

>>55123154
why is it that whenever anything makes someone happy it is our initial reaction to try to ruin it for them.

>> No.55123228
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55123228

>being a sociopath

>> No.55123274

>>55123191

Well it's happened a couple times with two different friends. One's favourite was Pearl Jam's Debut, that piece of shit that was outdated even when it came out, and another's favourite was and album by Oasis, probably one of the most destructive bands ever to exist for music.

>> No.55123297

>>55123274
lmao Oasis blows

>> No.55123358

>>55123274
One isn't even that bad tbh
Can't be as bad as whatever Bush put out

>> No.55123385

>>55123228
>the implication

>> No.55123428

>>55123358
>One isn't even that bad tbh

It wasn't terrible, but if you feel a "personal connection" to it, you are a very shallow person.

>> No.55123473

>>55123154
>why do people do this?
What? Why do people like things? Is that what you're asking?

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>>55123154
>show friend my favourite album
>he's a real dick about it and calls it shit
>wants me to justify why I like it
>I explain I was listening to it a lot when growing up in the orphanage and getting bullied severely by the other kids, so it has personal value to me as well as musical interests
>he posts about me on a Chinese manga imageboard

>> No.55123583

>>55123385
eyyyyy lmao

>> No.55123776

>>55123473

Why do people like obviously garbage albums just because it passed the time as a teenager?

Okay, I don't doubt they're insincere about it "helping" them, but my parents may have helped me throughout my life, it doesn't mean they're intelligent people.

>> No.55123919

>>55123776
>my parents may have helped me throughout my life, it doesn't mean they're intelligent people.

they sure did a great job raising an emotionless autist

>> No.55124270

>>55123428
yeah how dare someone connect with an album they like!

>> No.55124304

>>55123519
>>55124270
>I use whatever is in front of me as an emotional outlet
>I connect deeply with it
>totally not a really boring person gaiz.

>> No.55124378

>>55124304
you're just heartless. music is something that really bring you back to a certain time. He has nostalgia for it. At least he fucking listens to albums and isn't showing you a top 40 song.

>> No.55124544

>>55124378
I don't have much to do with people like that because we never have anything in common and they usually end up being either crazy in the dangerous way or just really sad to be around. Also I'm older than most of you and the only people from high school I'm still friends with I actually have a deep connection to because the rest weren't worth the effort.

I also have a very different metric for friends. Kids now act like everyone is their friend when all you are are acquaintances.

>> No.55124552

>>55123776
>albums have to be intelligent to be good

you must be one of those autists that can't understand why blink-182 used to be popular

>> No.55124640

>>55123274

Hey y'know you're not actually supposed to act like you do on /mu/ in real life? Shit's embarrassing.

>> No.55124656

>>55124544
what does that have to do with anything i posted.

>i have good friends and we're all close
>kids these days
>muh ego
thanks for the kek m8

>> No.55124723

>>55124656
Read it again and try to make the connections instead of just whiteknighting for a fictional person.

>> No.55124747

>>55123154
wow Anon, this is going to sound really really weird but hear me out.
He might, this is going to be controversial don't lose me, he might actually..

He might actually.....he just might actually.....yes just might actually like something you don't like.
Please before you bash me OP, this might sound really really offensive but I promise you if you give it a second thought it might sound really understandable.

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>>55123154
enjoying an album =/= good album
disliking an album =/= bad album

I enjoy a ton of mid to late 80s pop music. It's not good by any means, but I like it. I'm not personally a fan of Faust, but I can see why people enjoy it.

>> No.55124776

I know it gets tossed around a lot on 4chan but OP I think you might actually be on the spectrum

>> No.55124791
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You are just honestly a faggot OP. Music connecting with a person is the greatest achievement sound can have regardless of how it is arrange. The feeling happened and that's all that matters

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>>55123154
>2015
>being a dick

I'm sure you don't know much about literature and film, so don't critisize your friend for not knowing much about music, when he never claimed to.

>inb4 I do know a lot about literature and film!!

Not the point

>> No.55124795

>>55124748
jesus christ do people on this site need to realize this

>> No.55124799

>>55123274
>Pearl Jam's Debut
That's a great album you faggot

>> No.55124828

>>55124748
Don't try to teach the people here this
Nobody in this board knows the concept of liking music
Really, just make a "Why do you like your favorite album" thread and all people will do is try to sell their album to you

>> No.55124833

>>55123919
>>55124776

I don't have autism. I've been tested.

>> No.55124844

>>55124776
I'm autistic, been raised around autistic people and been to 3 schools for autistic people and I can confirm that most autists will respond like this if you hate their shit.

Even my best friend who I love dearly sometimes has a ragefit because I say I'd rather not buy black shoes or prefer a short hairdo for example.

>> No.55124879

man, sentimental dumbfucks sure come out of the walls quick on this board

>> No.55124880

>>55123209
Because they are wrong and need to be disabused of their illusions.

>> No.55124920

>>55124879
I agree, *tips*

>> No.55124946

>>55123154
You're fucked in the head OP, your original post just made you sound like a dick, but all your replies make you seem like a fucking narcissist.

>> No.55124947

>>55124879
I have rarely seen this happen before. That tyler album dropping has turned the board to shit in the past few days with all the kids on here.

>> No.55124949

First post here in over a year. This place hasn't changed at all. You people are just as shitty as ever.

OP is a fucking psycho.

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>>55124879
2cool4feels

>> No.55124963

>>55124833
Then you should get your money back OP.

>> No.55124972

>>55124833
B
AZI
NG
A

>> No.55124977

>>55123154
Just because you don't have human emotions it doesn't mean other people can't have them either

>> No.55124991

>>55124879
>>55124947
>OP trying damage control

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>>55124951
Some people right

>> No.55125030

>>55123154
Because most people have sentimental bonds with certain works of art. Art evokes feeling in most people and people tend to get attached to art evokes the strongest feelings in them. Most people don't listen to music just to impress strangers on the internet that they will never meet. Basically, this: >>55124640

>> No.55125041

>>55123154
OP i made an account just to say i think you are a fine dude and i think its wrong to respect other people's shitty opinions, good day

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>>55124879
I totally have no feelings bro
Like, I'm so super rational
I abandoned feelings after I realized how sad I was because I'm lonely and ugly
Now I must show everyone how superior I am by looking superior
Like with my new hat

>> No.55125105

>>55123274
Yeah how dare he not listen to true patrician music like NMH, The Antlers, Death Grips Animal Collective and Swans?

>> No.55125151

>>55125105
T O P K E K
O
P
K
E
K

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>>55124879
Totally agree, pic related, it's me

>> No.55125193

>>55123154
because music is emotional and if it touches you like a catholic priest, you don't care if it's good or bad you just want to play altar boy

>> No.55125253

>>55125193
/thread

>> No.55125273

Music is the most emotional of artforms. If you attempt to "connect" with an album through over-intellectualizing it, forcing yourself to "appreciate" it because you want to keep up some jackass facade of yourself as an 'intellectual" then you shouldn't be allow to listen to music.

>But muh music theory. My professor said this and that.

What music "theory" 101 students (like the OP) seem to never understand is that music theory is descriptive, labeling techniques with cute names (Microtonalism, Aleatoricism, Serialism etc) post-hoc. It isn't prescriptive and makes no value judgement (which is impossible to determine, anyhow, since music "quality" is subjective).

The great composers didn't sit around and navel gaze about "theory," at least not until the 20th century when composition became too self-conscious and composers were basically making music for academic cred, but in most cases a composer or musician's structure and technique is always in service of the aesthetic or emotion he wants to convey, and no one is in any logical position to judge the quality of what kind of emotional or aesthetic someone else connects with.

Eat a cock, OP..

>> No.55125325

>>55123154
>being this much of an autist

>> No.55125370

>>55125273
that was a bit inflammatory but yes i agree mostly

>> No.55125455

>>55125273
I agree, and MANY people in this board need to understand this and the fact that music is 100% subjective, and that they should listen to what they like, not to what impresses a bunch of anonymous, 15 year old hipsters on fucking 4chan. However, I do think that music theory does serve a purpose when writing music, but even then it's not absolutely necessary.

>> No.55125680

>>55125273
What is intersubjectivity?

>> No.55125722

>>55125680
This. If you're going to be a can't know nuffin postmodernist, at least do it right.

>> No.55125728

>>55123274
definitely maybe is 9/10 post list 1v1 me

>> No.55125759

>>55125680
Intersubjectivity is a term used in philosophy, psychology, sociology, and anthropology to conceptualize the psychological relation between people. It is usually used in contrast to solipsistic individual experience, emphasizing our inherently social being.

>> No.55125831

>>55125759
Therefore opinions can be intersubjective instead of whatever solipsistic hogwash >>55125273 was trying to shit out. It's not academic theory that Pearl Jam and Oasis are shit when you listen to a lot of varied music and discuss it with others who have done the same.

>> No.55125920

>>55123274
those are both great
source: im a legitimate patrician

>> No.55125946

>>55125831
>when you listen to a lot of varied music and discuss it with others who have done the same
I really hope you're not talking about mu there
Because if you think mu discuss "a lot of varied music" you know shit about shit
>discuss with other who have done the same
Haha oh yeah
"Guys isn't Oasis soooo bad? xD Upvote if you agree"
Quality discussion

>> No.55125991

>>55125946
>I really hope you're not talking about mu there
I wasn't.

>> No.55126014

>>55125273
rns

>> No.55126042

>>55124544
go to bed dad

>> No.55126063

>>55125831
>It's not academic theory that Pearl Jam and Oasis are shit
Then what is it? Your hate for them? You know hate is an emotion right?
You're such a shithead you can't understand that you dislike those band for even more emotional reasons than your friends like them
>>55125991
Sure
You go to really high quality discussion forums
You know, those where people discuss Oasis

>> No.55126237

>>55125831
>It's not academic theory that Pearl Jam and Oasis are shit

Prove it.

Oh, that's right, you can't. You're merely a drone influenced by critical and academic trend, as well as your own ego-need to feel intellectually superior to others by automatically appreciating "varied" (which is a code word for "obscure" or "academically credible") music over more mainstream and accessible fare.

If you knew anything about art criticism and academia in general, you'd understand just how anchored to trend those institutions are.

You classify Oasis and Pearl Jam as "shit" because it's simply not "cool" to like vis a vis the try hard image you have of yourself as a cultured individual.

You're more superficial than a Tumblr 15 year old girl taking selfies of herself while a Lorde record spins on her Crosley in the background.

At least she's having fun.

>> No.55126256

>>55126063
You know what, you win. We should all subject ourselves to people's shit music because we're such good friends that we're afraid to hurt their feelings by saying "hey, I don't like this and your feelings about it are kinda dumb." I can totally force myself to connect with people who have zero self awareness like this and build a meaningful friendship because of it.

>> No.55126305

>>55126237
Rekt

>> No.55126318

im surprised you were able to make a friend

>> No.55126336

>>55126318
just stop using 4chan and go back to reddit

>> No.55126350

>>55126256
You don't need to listen to what you dislike
Just don't go around like an asshole saying your opinions are completely rational
You sound like a huge mu drone who can't even start to explain why you dislike those bands
You probably made this thread expecting everyone to suck your dick because these bands are hated here and now you are so mad you got confronted you can't even keep your arguments straight

>> No.55126373

>>55126063
>you can't understand that you dislike those band for even more emotional reasons than your friends like them

He has very little self-awareness, so I wouldn't expect him to have much insight into his behavior.

He's the type of guy who immediately reads the reviews (only from "reputable" critics like Pitchfork, of course) after he listens to an album in the vain hope his opinion will be validated.

It's obvious he can't, and is unwilling, to think for himself.

>> No.55126437

>>55126350
I'm not even OP. I just don't keep shit from my friends and they don't refrain from pointing out shit they don't like.

>>55126373
Pearl Jam sounds too buttrocky for me. Never liked them, never liked anyone who did.

>> No.55126511

>>55124304
>gaiz
Is that a word?

>> No.55126554

>>55126256
>hey, I don't like this

And you're totally justified in having that opinion.

>your feelings about it are kinda dumb.

But you're not justified (from a purely logical point-of-view, which you seem to keep invoking but misapplying) in indicting anyone's feelings or "taste," since you can never, ever, operate from the perspective of that person.

Telling someone they like music for "dumb reasons" is like telling someone they like the color red or salty food for dumb reasons.

It's totally nonsensical, and all your appeals to "inter-subjectivity" (which you misunderstand, as well) aren't giving your position anymore intellectual ground to stand on.

>> No.55126631

>>55126554
>from a purely logical point-of-view
Found the real fedora of the thread.

>> No.55126718

>>55123274
>not liking Ten
are you sure you are le patrician

>> No.55126719

>>55126237
has science gone too far

>> No.55126785

>>55126437
>Pearl Jam sounds too buttrocky for me. Never liked them, never liked anyone who did.

I assumed you were OP, so forgive my apparent snottiness.

It's more than fine to not like something, to not like the "sound" of something, or the aesthetic it conveys, but you have no right (from a logical standpoint) to criticize someone else's "reasons" for liking something.

If they like Pearl Jam because of nostalgia or they think they're a fun band or they like the production or instrumentation, then those are perfectly legitimate reasons to like something. And every bit as legitimate as someone who intellectually masturbates to a Schoenberg composition.

>> No.55126876

>>55126631

There's nothing "fedora" or pretentious at all about that statement.

You can give people shit all you want about why they like something, but in that case, you're operating from a similar emotional perspective as the person you're criticizing.

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why can't we all just get along

>> No.55127073

>>55125193
good analogy

>> No.55127124

>>55126437
>Pearl Jam sounds too buttrocky for me
Wow "buttrocky"? This guy must know a lot about music!
We can't stop having opinions on every thing now, people, after this magnificent critique nothing will be more specific!
Wow, buttrocky, what a wonderful criticism
You win at life man

I bet you use "meme" and "overrated" too

>> No.55127560

>>55127124
Look, I can be passive aggressive too!
am I cool, kiddo?

>> No.55127733

>>55127015
It would imply that more than one of us was a faggot and that is clearly not true.

>> No.55127946

>>55126336
>le reddit meme

What year is this?

>> No.55127972 [DELETED] 

>>55127560
difference between sarcasm and passive-aggressiveness, faggot.

>> No.55128051

>>55127972
Admittedly it was both, but it was still a deserved reaction. "Buttrock" has to be one of the stupidest things I've seen on /mu/ for a while. All in a conversation about how much more "intellectual" people who dislike Pearl Jam are, this thread is top kek

>> No.55128094

Le buttrocky

>> No.55128140

>>55128051
Buttrock has been a term since before /mu/ and pretty much started with Pearl Jam. It's one of those things where you know what it sounds like.

>> No.55128149

>>55127015
Dumb frogposter

>> No.55128181

>>55128140
Pearl Jam are not buttrock, but Vedder's vocals arguably influenced it

Scott Stapp and Chad Kroger are glorified impersonators, for example

But musically Pearl Jam are not remotely butt

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>>55128149

>> No.55128188
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>> No.55128234

>>55128181
It's proto-butt. Not as bad as what it influenced but an acquired taste that makes me think of cheap beer and sunburn.

>> No.55128309

>>55128234
I don't get that vibe personally but fair enough

>>55128188
kek

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>>55128149

>> No.55128372

>>55128309
I also get it from cobain so I've never liked nirvana or 90% of alt rock, which is pretty alienating.

>> No.55128391

>>55128234
You're an absolute joke.

Listen to fucking No Code or something. Take some effort and actually check out their discog, rather than spouting off bullshit based on the 4 fucking singles you've heard.

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Yeah I am doing this with my favorite album, which is Sandinista. I defend it musically and in some points i'm correct.

But objectively everyone knows London Calling is better musically and even I know it, but I like Sandinista more.

Its just someones opinion, don't bring your "patrician" status with you in the outside world. Be who you actually are and don't be a faggot to your friends.

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>>55128372
Uber-Butt rockers like Staind, Shinedown and Puddle of Mudd must give you an aneurysm

>> No.55128615

>>55128534
You have no idea. It's all my neighbor used to play. Fucking 3 doors down and creed every saturday morning while he washed his big loud truck that I regularly drained the oil from. I didn't like it before that.

>> No.55130609

I too enjoy its always sunny

>> No.55130809

NOW THIS IS SHIT POSTING

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>>55125052

>> No.55131085

>>55125273
Thank you.

>> No.55131144

>>55126554
I think this is the best way to put it.

Music and what's "good" in a pure art form is subjective.

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55131147

Post favorite albums I'll start

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