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Anonymous Mon Apr 13 07:46:52 2015 No.55109010 [Reply] [Original]

how is what zeppelin did ("plagiarizing" stuff) any different than sampling?

in both cases you have artists taking something that's not theirs and give it their own interpetation.

yet zeppelin get heavily criticised by the same people that will argue that sampling is perfectly fine. why is that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 07:50:24 2015 No.55109047 retarded capitalist philosophy you can't deny that they improved it a shit ton

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 07:51:43 2015 No.55109069 >>55109010 in the first case the artist cites his sample sources if he's got a minimum respect for what he's doing, in the second case the band never acknowledged playing anything that wasn't theirs

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 07:51:53 2015 No.55109072 >>55109010 LZ didn't credit any of those unknown nigs. That's a serious difference.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 07:53:36 2015 No.55109090 >>55109069 >>55109072 so it's only "stealing" if you don't admit it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 07:55:17 2015 No.55109105 >>55109090 ...and pay the due rights. Why are you acting like such a bitch about it ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 07:55:27 2015 No.55109106 >>55109090 It's stealing when you think you can get away without even asking for permission.

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 07:57:22 2015 No.55109123

Artistically there is no difference. It's perfectly acceptable. The only reason anyone was offended by it is because if you sell a cover of a song then the songwriter is owed 8 cents per dollar of profits, but Page credited his modified versions to himself so they didn't pay out to anyone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 07:59:04 2015 No.55109142 >>55109090 Samplers pay for the right to sample.

slip !!jtn2vPrlwXt Mon Apr 13 07:59:34 2015 No.55109149

>>55109090
not only that, in hip hop or general sampling culture there's a different idea about it, that includes more natural respect than just saying "Oh, I give credit". Led Zeppelin were outright copying, claiming, and just building upon something that not just wasn't theirs, but didn't demonstrate any talent or creativity.

You are automatically assuming sampling music is malicious and want to think you're intelligent for exposing hypocrisy, just fucking except it's time to go to bed dad.

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 08:00:00 2015 No.55109155

>>55109106
so you think that every hip hop artist (or any other artist that uses samples) really asks permission for each sample? you think that the all of the 1000 people that sampled james brown's funky drummer asked for permission? if that's true it'll take a longass time to produce a sample based album

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 08:01:25 2015 No.55109166 >>55109155 >so you think that every hip hop artist (or any other artist that uses samples) really asks permission for each sample? Of course not. And when they don't they're just stealing. You didn't expect me to defend stealing niggers, did you?

>>	slip !!jtn2vPrlwXt Mon Apr 13 08:01:57 2015 No.55109171 >>55109123 please don't paint a positive light of a guitarist who was only good for five or so years after their fourth album. and then proceeded to fuck 12 year olds

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 08:02:34 2015 No.55109178 >>55109155 No one ever claimed that every hip-hop artist asks for permission.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 08:03:49 2015 No.55109187 >>55109171 he was never fucking 12 year olds. it was one 14 year old (lori maddox) and even bowie fucked her. infact, she lost her virginity to bowie.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 08:03:58 2015 No.55109188 Don't rappers regularly release albums as mixtapes because then they don't have to clear samples?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 08:05:54 2015 No.55109205 >>55109188 They also don't make any profit from it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 08:07:13 2015 No.55109221 >>55109072 they weren't unknown

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 08:08:45 2015 No.55109236 >>55109205 So now we deeply care about fair practices in the business side of the music industry which we are relentlessly pirating from?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 08:10:10 2015 No.55109248 >>55109010 led zeppelin aren't very good, whereas the pioneers of sampling were cool as hell

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 08:10:39 2015 No.55109255 >>55109236 Says the person who pirated every album in their library.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 08:11:52 2015 No.55109269 It's okay when memerap does it. Kanye West doesn't even need permission to us King Crimson, Aphex Twin, etc. It's okay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 08:35:13 2015 No.55109475 >>55109269 >implying faggots dont whine about ye's sampling "OY VEY DIS IS ANOTHER SHOAH HE'S SAMPLING MUH PROG ROCK"

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 08:39:56 2015 No.55109520 dindu nuffin

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