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Epic fucking thread man

The "Dean of American Rock Critics," Robert Christgau, gave a witty one-liner (as he is wont to do) about Kanye West's bold project, Yeezus: "Sign spotted on church in the wild: Death Grips--Be Like Them." The crucial part of this phrase is "Be Like Them." Because this isn't Death Grips, despite ridiculous claims made by many people. There is nary a tesla coil sample to be found here, the production of these tracks is not filled in maximal overload but rather minimal primalism, and Kanye sure as hell isn't MC Ride. But that is to his benefit: Death Grips, despite whatever pseudo-intellectual hipsters like to write about them, are a group focused in the schizophrenic and incomprehensible. Whatever messages their albums are focused on are clouded in abstract and disjunct lyricism that conveys the hopelessness their lyricism reinforces.

Hopelessness, however, is not the thesis of Yeezus. Rather, it is revolution. Kanye couldn't be MC Ride for this album. Ride is an unstable figure blown by the system. Kanye is a cultural demagogue; his words must be powerful and convincing. Phrases like "Fuck you and your corporation / Y'all niggas can't control me" are authoritative statements for his flock to march to. The mix of weakness and aggression in "Blood on the Leaves" could not have been accomplished by a Ride-figure; they are far too focused on the extremist side to accomplish anything of profundity. And the mix of abrasive honesty and heartfelt passion in Bound 2 are certainly beyond anything created by Death Grips.

The only track on Yeezus that sounds grippy is On Sight. The rest of it is too rooted in traditional R&B and has very different themes. Still a good album IMO though

So what? Both albums ripped off M.I.A.

that's the truth

>>55014898
they're both shit anyway. move on

>>55014898
>Implying there's a single track on Yeezus that sounds like The Meme Store

The only one which could be considered similar to DG production is On Sight and it was done on purpose since it was the opener.

I bet you also think that stuff like this is a DG rip off right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNIHoPeu6xU

>>55014898
>pitchfork

>>55014959
>Caring about Fandango opinion
>MBDTF 6/10
>TBK 10/10
>TMS 10/10

>>55014898
Because of Bound 2.

though they're not so similar there was a big influence from DG. And mostly mainstream music listeners thought Yeezus was extremely groundbreaking

>>55015020
>And mostly mainstream music listeners thought Yeezus was extremely groundbreaking
That's because it topped the fucking Billboard charts.
You know what else topped the charts?
1989, 2014FHD, etc.
Compared to the other massively popular albums, it is.

>>55014898
>Implying death grips isn't just a modern hardcore project with a black henry rollins who yells non-sense lyrics

>>55015037
I really, really hate people who claim DG's lyrics are worth serious analysis.

>>55015034
Kid A topped the charts too. It's not tough for pop artists to take a drastic left turn and keep support. People buy the shit because they hear so many different opinions about it.

P4K is literally the worst music site out there. How the fuck is Yeezus 9.5, which is a near-perfect score? Is it even comparable to the classics in the last century?

Sometimes they gave such unbelievably inflated scores to such mediocre albums. At least Scaruffi's ratings, heck even Fantano's have some merits to them.

>le ebin "Yeezus is a Death grips rip-off" meme
If yeezus would've been an actualt ripoff of money store it would be better than the yeezus we got now

>>55014979
Those ratings are all too high

>>55014959

>trusting Fantano
>ever

>>55014898
because Kanye did the experimental sound better than Death Grips. Yeezus sounds like nothing else. The production on that album is the best thing I've ever heard. Not to mention Kanye's lyrics are a million times better than Stefans. The Money Store just sounds like Skinny Puppy plus rap

>>55016429
Kanye is great artist what he does but he is a pop artist I don't think the experimental sound worked for him

>>55016429
this

>>55016429
>The production on that album is the best thing I've ever heard.
>Not to mention Kanye's lyrics are a million times better than Stefans.
Please be b8.

>The Money Store just sounds like Skinny Puppy plus rap
Well, yeah.

>>55016406
But Eminem is better than Kanye.

The powers that b is better than both those albums though.

>>55016999

>>55014929
who wrote this? it's bad

>>55014929
>the are to extreme to be profound
Is he retarded?

>>55014929
If you choked to death, I'd be fine with it.

>>55014898
Why does Yeezus have more than a 5? That's the real question.

I don't even care about numerical ratings, but this is just ridiculous.

>>55016406
MBDTF wasn't even good. Dark Fantasy and All Of The Lights are the only decent songs on it. While it was nowhere near "Good", there wasn't a song I actually disliked on MMLP2. It just wasn't very memorable.

>>55016406
neither of those albums are no where near a 10 but yea that eminem shit is worse

>>55014979
>>55014959
they're all very sensible scores
also people always forget he gives MBDTF a lot of praise for the production and some of the songwriting. he just felt that there wasn't very much thematical maturity and that the notions kanye tried to explore kind of slipped out of his hands, resulting in non-self-aware hipocrisy and immaturity. a lot of people think these are the album's low and high points, but he values the message and the artistic core of an album more than the average /mu/tant or reviewer, and he thnks that took a huge toll on the album's general quality
he has quite a popular opinion on the merits of the album, it's just a matter of values

>>55015048
It just depends on the track. Tracks like Culture Shock or Inanimate Sensation clearly have structure and metaphor. Some shit might just be hyphy stream of consciousness, but so what?

why is this board so contrarian?

>>55020416
because a lot of popular shit is bad

>>55014929
He's right though

>>55016429
I know this is b9 but I'm still angry because there are people who actually think this.

>>55017076
>>55017101
>>55017157
Prove me wrong.

>>55020554

This guy's favorite band is animal collective.

>>55020581
I dislike AnCo even more than DG and Kanye.

>>55014979

kanye stan pls leave :(

>>55020554

literally the least funny /mu/mor comic strip in existence

>>55020581
rammstein*

>>55020664
It came from Stormfront originally, most people just post it because of how ridiculous it is.

>>55016406 Being where he's from, it is a social requirement for him to appreciate Eminem. So of course he's going to have a bit of bias towards him.

>>55020664
>>55020681
Agreed. Jews have nothing to do with the hip-hop industry whatsoever.

>>55014898
>rip-off
No, it was heavily inspired by Desugurippu, but it's not a ripoff, they don't all that alike.

>>55014959
go to bed, memetony

>>55020416
To try and keep people who think that Yeezus is the most experimental album they have ever heard out. 4chan lets anyone post and everyone's post is weighed the same so the only way for communities to protect themselves is to make it hostile to anyone who may not fit with the groupthink.

>>55020836
/mu/ is filled with rabid death grips famboys who think dg are the greatest thing ever.

>>55021014
and it's also filled with delusional underage kanye stans

>>55020836
Lol this post is funny

>/mu/ us serious business

The Money Store is good
Yeezus is alright

Gravediggaz and Dalek already did DG better than DG. Now stop making these fucking threads.

P.S: RZA (who was part of Gravediggaz) helped produced Yeezus, so Yeezus technically borrows more from 6 Feet Deep than TMS.

>>55021115
Lol this post is funny

>/mu/ us serious business

>>55020664
>>55020681
>>55020750
How does it feel having a single mother?

>>55021327
:^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh-Nk3aV-yk

>>55021396
Actually, most /pol/tards grew up in abusive households where they were beaten and blamed for stuff they didn't do.
As a result, they start frothing at the mouth whenever anyone blames whites for something. It's quite sad, really.

>>55021438
Lol this post is funny

>/pol/ us serious business

Honestly, tho, who can listen to Yeezus now and say it deserves a 9.5? That shit has zero replay value apart from a couple songs.

>>55018482
>All of the Lights
>decent

>>55021461
There there, Timmy. The bad man can't hurt you anymore.

I'll reveal ur identity op

this meme is getting old. yeezus is more inspired by acid house and chicago drill than any shit dg puts out.

U brought hate 'n war with this post, I'll take revenge Op

>>55021787
>inspired by acid house

You mean the first song? Because that's literally the only song that could apply to. Cut down on the blogs, faggot.

>>55021817
have you EVER listened to any acid house?
>on sight
>black skinhead
>hold my liquor
>i'm in it
>blood on the leaves
>send it up
are all heavily inspired by acid house.

>>55021876
Kanye West fans must be retarded if you're right.

>>55014929
He's right though, at least if you compare TMS with Yeezus

I don't agree with the scores however.

Because Death Grips is so shit that even a ripoff does their own style better.

>>55021945

>rym users know more about music genres than people who have been in the music industry 20+ years

>>55021876
Where's the 303s and the vintage Roland drum machines in those?
Where's the 4/4 beat?

>>55021970
ebin meme friendo :^)

>>55021970

>>55014929
>yeezus
>minimal primalism
has this guy even heard the album?

>>55021970
simply eric :^)

>>55014898
fuck actually Yeezus wasn't even that bad, I liked some songs off it, but TMS is much better isn't it obvious. I fucking hated autotune on some Kanye songs, but overall I consider it to be a good album though. At least it's more different from his other albums

>>55016406
kek he's right about MBDTF too.
the beginning is great but since the last few songs are irredeemable shit, that drops the album from a solid 9 to a 6.

Dark Fantasy to All of the Lights would be a 10/10 EP

Dark Fantasy to Runaway would be an 8 or 9/10 album

but the rest is pretty trash

>>55021014

and it's also filled with rabid anti-death grips cucks who think dg are the worstest thing ever

>>55023343
No, we think the fanbase is the worst thing ever. The band themselves are just alright.

>>55023444
Oh I'm waiting for the day you get raped to death.

>>55023444
Good trips
>>55025033
good drubs

>>55025033
You just proved my point.

>>55025121
well im not a fan so, no.
kanye fans gobble everything he makes right up and think it's the absolute best. but all his lyrics are unintelligent hood babble ego tripe.

"300 like the trojans"

/thread

>>55016406
7 vs 6 is not such an extreme difference though. The point is that Fandango didn't give in to the Kanye hype like other big name magazines did.

>>55022938
Yes, I have.
It's minimalistic all the way through.

>Exmilitary [Third Worlds download, 2011]
Death-metal hip-hop for El-P fans who secretly wish the Insane Clown Posse wasn't so dumb

>>55014959
His Yeezus and MBDTF scores are objectively the most accurate scores he's given.
Kanye west is pure mediocre trash and his fans are cancer.

After all this time I still don't understand the phenomenon of Kanye West hype. Why does he get such high scores, consistently?
The reviews I've read all seem rather vague. Sure, he didn't give in to the rap stereotypes when it comes to his visual image, but that has little to with music. And sure, his instrumentals aren't "traditional", but that is so only in the sense that they are closer to mainstream pop.

I still feel like all those reviews coming from credible sources can't be wrong, I just don't know why they're right. And if they are indeed wrong then I don't know why they are so universally wrong.

>>55016429
haha holy shit. I wonder if people like this actually exist

>>55014898
TMS doesn't have bound 2 on it, anon

>>55023444
I don't think you're taking the reasonable position properly by saying that they are 'just alright'.
You know I, I don't have anything against Kanye himself, its just that his fans are the worst thing ever. His music is only ok at best though, clearly his fans are deluded.