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54912204 No.54912204 [Reply] [Original]

How do you cope with knowing the greatest album of all time has already been written and neither you nor anyone else can top it?

>> No.54912218

Do you honestly believe this?

>> No.54912228

>>54912204
Getting close to even half the greatness of that album is a huge personal achievement in itself

>> No.54912278

Feels good, man

>> No.54912368

Lel it's not even the best Beach Boys album.

>> No.54912397

>>54912368
It's the only great Beach Boys album

>b-but muh unfinished mess that would have changed human history!

>> No.54912441

>>54912397
Their surfing albums are nothing to scoff at. There are still plenty of amazing Brian Wilson harmonies and melodies on those albums.

And Smile Sessions is hardly an unfinished mess now that it's been as close to finished as possible.

>> No.54912619
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54912619

But anon, pic related isn't out yet

>> No.54912643

>>54912619
I know, I was talking about the greatest album of all time.

>> No.54912729

>>54912441
Dude their surf shit was so uninspired. It was complete pandering, and the instrumentation was tame as fuck for the genre. The Chantays were far better at it, among others. Pet Sounds is their individual masterpiece. They were doing what THEY wanted, and their experimental style was far more fruitful and influential.

>> No.54912795

>>54912204
It's a very badly feel OP.

;_;

>> No.54912840

>>54912729
The songs are still what Brian wanted to play. He just was not a good lyricist and his brother Dennis suggested they sing about the surfer life and yes, they milked that niche dry but the music is still good.

>> No.54913303

>>54912840
They were bandwagoning though is my point. They weren't the first to think of the surf style, that was already a nationwide phenomenon, and other than their institution of those narrow vocal harmonies and their image, they realy brought nothing to that genre. Pet Sounds showed them fledging out their OWN thing, and way better I might add. Fro the Sectional Song forms to the glockenspiels, Pet Sounds is a more well composed and concentrated effort from all angles

>> No.54913721

>>54912729
>>54913303
>Pet Sounds
>What THEY wanted
>their OWN thing

More like what Brian Wilson wanted and getting shit for it.

>> No.54914042

>tfw we could have gotten more genius beach boys music from brian if it wasn't for mike love and instead we're stuck with kokomo and nostalgiacore

>> No.54914306

and what album might that be, OP?
nice animals btw

>> No.54914318

>>54913721
Nigga what

Al Jardine's the reason Sloop John B exists, among other creative input from the group. Brian was not nearly as controlling as people make him out to be. In a sense he did have a grip on the record but it was justified, kinda comes with the job of composing, bass, vocals, production. He easily did the most work

>> No.54914320

>>54914306
Animal collective

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>>54914042
:^)

>> No.54914395

>>54914318
He literally wrote all the music (except for Sloop John B.) while the rest of the band was on tour. The Beach Boys only contribution were vocals. These are the literal well known facts.

>> No.54914427

>>54914042
do they even have any other albums worth listening to?

>> No.54914437

>>54912204
the same way you should cope with knowing Brian Wilson will die in your lifetime, faggot

>> No.54914497

>>54914427
No. Everything after that sounds like generic 60s soul music. A few tracks on the next 5 albums are decent but not really. Sure enough, it's the Brian songs that are good.

All I wanna do
Cabinessence
Life of a tree
Till I die
Surfs up
Disney girls

>> No.54914511

>>54914427
The SMiLE Sessions is the spiritual follow up to Pet Sounds and it's even better imo.

I like their albums before Pet Sounds too. All their songs are about surfing or cars but there are still a lot of beautiful melodies there.

Anything released after Pet Sounds (Except SMiLE Sessions) is pretty shitty.

>> No.54914540

Is Mike Love the enemy of /mu/?

>> No.54914544

>>54914427
The only ones I think that are worth it are All Summer Long, Summer Days (and Summer Nights!!), Today!, Smile Sessions, Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, Surf's Up, Sunflower, and Love You.

Maybe Surfin' USA/Surfer Girl.

>> No.54914593

>>54914427
Smile

>> No.54914595
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54914595

>Weird balding frontman
>Weird short guy with a huge head
>Two chubby brothers
>One hot brother

How did these guys even become a popular boy band?

>> No.54914633

>>54914595
Why did Al age so fast? By the time he was 25 he looked 40

>> No.54914651

>>54914595
catchy music

>> No.54914677

>>54914595
Not even gay but Dennis Wilson man, he's worth 10 backstreet boys.

>> No.54914691

>>54914677
why is he so good looking while carl and brian aren't?

>> No.54914732

>>54914677
>>54914595
Reminder that Dennis had a fetish for a low-vocal underlays

>Dennis Wilson sings a heavily syncopated vocal rap during the song's second chorus. He says, "I got off so much on doing that. It's mixed way down in the track, and it’s syncopated all the way through. Right there is my biggest turn-on."

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54914754

I'm hype as fuck for Love and Mercy

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>>54914691
Brian and Carl were just fat but you can tell they could be pretty hot

>> No.54914846

>>54914779
too bad they got fat into the 70s. At least dennis had the ability to grow that amazing beard

>> No.54914882
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>>54914846
They all had beards

>> No.54914887

>>54914042
>SMiLE wouldn't have bombed harder than PS in the States, leading to Capitol dropping the BB and Brian eventually ODing on speed and coke out of depression and joining the 27 Club.

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>>54914882
yeah but damn

>> No.54915032

>>54914976
Is that album any good?

>> No.54915059

>>54915032
yeah its great better than any 70s beach boy record
>>54914887
:(

>> No.54915061

>>54915032
never heard it, but it sold way better than any Beach Boys album at the time and was pretty big success. Also he died a few years later so that may have contributed to its later accolades

>> No.54915108

Pet Sounds is boring college professor rock though. Overrated as fuck.

TPAB is better than this shit.

>> No.54915131

Did you guys know this? It was like a omen that maybe it was good Smile was cancelled

>Brian was holding onto this single, like: "All right, world – I've got it," and waiting for the right time. He felt it was important to wait for the right time. It was a good record. This woman, I guess she was an astrologer–of sorts–she came by Brian's house. She said to him, "Brian – the time is right." He was waiting for the word from this woman to release the record, I guess. So he said, "All right." He called the whole group. It was like: 'OK. Look. Here it is.'A small disk, you know. Seven inches. It was very solemn, very important. Weighty. A heavy situation. It was all, "Brace yourself – for the big one." All the group had those limos. And there was a caravan of Rolls-Royces taking the record to KHJ. He was going to give the station an exclusive, just give it to them without telling Capitol. We got to the gate of KHJ. The guard wouldn't let us in. A little talking, a little hubbub, a little bullshit. The guard was finally intimidated enough by four or five Rolls-Royce limousines to open his gate. We got in the building, got to the disc jockey. It was pretty late, probably around midnight. Brian said, "Hi, I'm Brian Wilson, here's the new Beach Boys single. I'd like to give you and KHJ an exclusive on it." And this asshole turned around and he said: "Can't play anything that's not on the playlist." And Brian almost fainted. It was all over. He'd been holding the record, waiting for the right time. He'd had astrologers figuring out the correct moment. It really killed him. Finally they played it, after a few calls to the program director or someone, who screamed, "Put it on, you idiot." But the damage to Brian had already been done.

tldr
brian willson waits for the exact moment to release new single.
gonna give big radio station exclusive rights to first air time
dj tells brain to fuck off
Brian is emotionally ruined
strike 1

>> No.54915184

>>54915131
Is it known what that song was?

>> No.54915224

>>54915184
Heroes and Villains

>> No.54915250

>>54914779
Brian looks like Alec Baldwin here

>> No.54915256

>>54915184
It was Heroes and Villians, basically the new big hit that Brian wanted to put out. He was "emotionally crushed" following that.

After that as well, critics and fellow musicians said the song was too pretentious and weird, and Brian was out of his league.

>Brian Wilson interpreted the failure of "Heroes and Villains" as an ultimate rejection by the public to his musical growth and artistry. Mike Love would go on to call "Heroes" as "the last dynamic Brian moment".[15]

>Upon its release and reflective of the general reaction, the single was purportedly dismissed as a "psychedelic barbershop quartet" by seminal rock figure Jimi Hendrix.

Poor guy

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>>54915256
>>54915131
Reading this shit makes me so angry and sad.

>> No.54915387

>>54915343
Also
>British rock journalist Nik Cohn wrote in 1970: "It was good that [Wilson] should progress, that he should attempt outside his depth. But he took himself too solemnly, he was mildly megalomaniac about it all. Almost, he was ashamed of pop. He got snob. Running so fast and precious, his hat got away from his head."

Brian was just ahead of his time. Or maybe he was cursed to be expected as a pop band by the public.

>> No.54915450

>>54914042
>mike love

boy he was sure butthurt about SMiLE

>I think Van Dyke is really talented, brilliant, and fun. He’s got a sense of humor. I ask[ed] Van Dyke Parks, "What the hell does 'Over and over the crow cries, uncover the cornfield' mean?" And he said, "I haven’t a clue, Mike!"…I don’t know if he was saying that just because I was there in his face. But I always liked lyrics that are boy-girl, or made sense, or connected to the mind of people.…And who says I didn't like the words? Just because I said I didn't know what they meant didn't mean I didn't like them. I have zero against Van Dyke Parks. That’s why I said, "What the fuck does that mean?" It's not meant to be an insult. He didn't get insulted. He just said, 'I haven’t a clue!' And it wasn't like I was against his lyrics. But people don’t know the way I think. And they don’t give a fuck about the way I think, either. But that’s okay. I'm a big boy, and I can take that. I was just asking: What did it mean?

>tl;dr
even though I said it was shit and awful doesnt mean I ACTUALLY thought it was shit. fuck all the haters I dont need them

stay mad mike

>> No.54915587

>>54914318
What he's saying is that it's not what they wanted and it's not their own thing. It was Brian's thing. All of them were really hesitant to let this stuff happen. They ALL thought it was too artsy and Mike was worried that it wouldn't sell.

Pet Sounds is Brian's album, not the Beach Boys'.

>> No.54915609

>>54914427
Today! is great as well.

>> No.54915647

>>54915256
man fuck hendrix for saying that shit

>> No.54915648
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>>54914427
Yes! If you want to use it, here's a chart I made. I don't know if it's too overwhelming. I hope it's not.

>>54914497
>Everything after that sounds like generic 60s soul music
>>54914511
>Anything released after Pet Sounds (Except SMiLE Sessions) is pretty shitty.

Objectively wrong, honestly.

>>54914540
Not really, no.

>>54914595
Dennis was fucking hot. Brian has admitted that he was the sex appeal in their early days. Who knows how the rest of them made pussies wet. If you look at early live performances of Mike Love, he dances like a fucking dad with virtually no control of his own body. Pretty sure it was basically all in the music.

>>54915032
Yes.

>> No.54915756

>>54915648
Long Promised Road sounds like something I'd hear in 1966 by some black r&b band

>> No.54915817

>>54915756
Oh, one song is the summation of their entire post Pet Sounds career. Cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46IQu0yuJzU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbewiJnbgOE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO_LX-m74uw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65vGN_CnHQ

Name me a '66 r&b band that made stuff that sounded like this. Must be a good band.

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>>54915817
>Posting Smile sessions

>> No.54915960

>>54915817
>tripfag
>posting the few songs that are actually good
>b-but they had great post-pet sounds albums guys!

see >>54914497

>> No.54916084

>>54915883
This ignorance. Brian didn't come up with the vocals to Mrs. O'Leary's Cow until he rewrote it for Smiley Smile under the title "Fall Breaks and Back to Winter". What I linked is the song "Fall Breaks and Back to Winter" which is an entirely different arrangement than Mrs. O'Leary's Cow and features wordless vocals that were brand new to the piece at the time. The Smile Sessions box set version of Mrs. O'Leary's Cow is a mashup of the vocals on Fall Breaks and the backing track for Mrs. O'Leary's Cow.

You've never even listened to a single post Smile album, have you?

>>54915960
Nice ad hominem. Anyway I'll list some songs that aren't those, just because you're being so nice about it.

For Smiley Smile, we have:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_B3H6Sb86Y

For Wild Honey, we have:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Xdnrzpi2rg

For Friends, we have:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FHFG2AlzKg

For 20/20, we have:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-59yjCqtIE

For Sunflower, we have:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mky-UhxUKoM

For Surf's Up, we have:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh1YKIZlXWs

For Carl and the Passions, we have:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SruCNOALxTA

For Holland, we have:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHhDkSzl9VE

And for Love You, we still have:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65vGN_CnHQ

Now, if you could name me a '66 r&b or soul or whatever band that sounds like this then I'd be ecstatic, really.

>> No.54916987

>>54916084
Tripfags ruin threads.

>> No.54917072

>>54916987
Filter and move on, my man.

>> No.54917664

why is this album so perfect, bros?

>> No.54917696

whats the point of the train and dogs at the end of the album?

>> No.54917775

>>54917696
Depends on how you interpret it. Isn't that the fun part of art?

To me it provides mental scenery that wraps up a story which the album tells, and the train itself is symbolic of life having passed the narrator of the story by.

>> No.54917845

>>54917696
It signifies the metaphorical transition that Brian was making from innocent, pious child to the drug fueled animal treading down the highway to hell.

Going up the rails, as they say, on the proverbial crazy train.

>> No.54918358

>>54916987
I sure hate it when trip-fags put the work into a quality post! Fucking TRIP FAGS

URRR I HATE FAGS I'M SOSTRAIGHT

>> No.54918380

>>54917696
It's about committing suicide by going in front of a train. The dog is barking for its master.

>> No.54918648

>>54912204
Mediocre album at best. Just listened to That's Why God Made The Radio and it was better than this.

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54918770

It already was topped.

>> No.54919093

>>54912441
>>54914511
>>54914887
>>54915131

it seems like smile sessions are the definitive version of the album on /mu/ (barring some people who prefer bwps), but i'm curious to know what people think about the dozens of fan edits out there. i personally feel like smile sessions is too constrained by what brian did in '04, and some of the fan edits that i've heard blow the sessions out of the water. my personal favorite right now is mqr presents smile: an ear to ear expansion. i had some gripes with the sequencing so i'm using an altered track listing that i think works far better. i'd definitely share it if anyone is interested.

i've listened to smile sessions, purple chick, ultra smile '67, and mqr btw

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54919146

OP here. Meant to post this

>> No.54919176

>>54912204
Is this a challenge?

>> No.54919209

that's not a pic of deja entendu I'm confused

>> No.54919513

>>54912729
He obviously means the pop/rock, not their literal surfing instrumentals.

>> No.54919942
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54919942

Pet Sounds is not the only good album you dweebs. They only recorded maybe only a dozen bad tracks between 1964 and 1977. Everything else ranges from top tier to god tier. Even some songs on the earliest albums are pretty catchy, but I guess you need to wait until you're old enough to appreciate pop music recorded before 1965 before you'll agree.

>> No.54919960

>>54919093
I've heard MQR mix as well, interesting to see all the other era-tracks they added in. There was one someone posted last night, it was a fan edit by a guy who meticulously studied all the notes and assembled a 1-disc 12 track SMiLE version, that fits all the constraints of an record, and complies with the Capitol Records organization of the day. Each side rounds out to 18 minutes, opens with popular tracks and closes with heavy tracks.

When I get home I'll post the link to it if I remember. That one is my favorite so far.

>> No.54920299

>>54919960
I'd like to see it.

I love MQR presents SMiLE and I don't listen to Smile Sessions now because of it. Except for Heroes and Villains. While I love some segments, I think it doesn't work together.

>> No.54920303

>>54919960
i've definitely seen a bunch of edits that try to figure out what smile would have looked like as a 10-14 track album, but i have to say i prefer the indulgent edits that are 20+ tracks and 60+ minutes. smile (at least to me) isn't supposed to be concise. that's how it's different from pet sounds. smile is ambitious, excessive, bloated almost, but it's alright because of the quality of the music justifies it. i feel like mqr gets pretty close to how smile would have actually sounded like in '67 or '68 if brian had just said fuck it and decided to release it as a double or even triple album.

>> No.54920349

>>54912441
>Their surfing albums are nothing to scoff at.

Over fucking Pet Sounds? Are you joking?

>> No.54920381

>>54920349
Nobody said Surfin' U.S.A. was better than Pet Sounds.

>> No.54920395

>>54920299
i definitely agree that mqr's heroes and villains could do with having a section trimmed, but that's my only complaint musically. i love the extended good vibrations with the original mind-control lyrics.

but how the fuck can you justify breaking up the wonderful-look-child-surf's up suite?

>> No.54920454

>>54920381
Sorry, anon, I thought >>54912368 and >>54912441 were the same person.

>> No.54920498

>>54912397
I meant Sunflower.

>> No.54920781

>>54920395
Just think, for all those years, people listened to the ending of Surf's Up and had no idea it was part of another song Child is the Father of the Man..

But yeah, that 4 track line up is pretty sweet

>> No.54920820

What's your thoughts on the Brian Wilson biopic that's coming out called Love & Mercy?

>> No.54920868

>>54920820
I'm hype as fuck, even though I'm sure it'll be really trite, sentimental garbage.

>> No.54920886

>>54920820
H Y P E

>> No.54921052

Since this is basically /bbg/ here's a bonus track from Brian's new album. It's just a demo but it's still pretty cool to me cuz I love this song so much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji-ZOmA0tsY

>> No.54921069

>>54920820
Will Mike be the bad guy? Will it be a feely-everyone gets along thing?

Will it be indepth like The Doors biomovie?

>> No.54921077

>>54920820
It's been getting massive hype, I'm looking forward to Paul Dano's acid trip.

>> No.54921119

>>54921077
>>54920886
>>54920868
>>54920820


>Wilson felt that the film was "very factual" (with Dano succeeding at his portrayal better than Cusack and that each character was casted so well that he "actually believed those characters were really who they were, like the guy who played Doctor Landy was so right on ... that it absolutely scared me. [I was] like absolutely in fear for about ten minutes

HYPE

>> No.54921170

>>54921119
I'm just worried that Paul "CLASSIC" Dano and his weird cracking voice are going to ruin an otherwise fantastic film premise.

>> No.54921186

>>54921052
this song is the closing track off of today!, dennis sings lead. just thought you might be interested in that

>> No.54921222

>>54921186
Yeah, I know. I think I like Denny's vocal better than Brian's on this still, but he's at this spot between his soft voice and his gruff, drug-addled 70s voice and it's really nice.

>> No.54921304

>>54921222
i desperately hope brian's bedroom tapes get a proper release. i can only imagine how much gold is in there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DfaFcq3U5Q

>> No.54921351

>>54920395
I liked it, because I always pictured SMiLE as revisiting motifs throughout the album, so breaking it up makes even more sense to me.

>> No.54921455

>>54921304
Same here dude. I love his voice in the 70s to death even though hearing the wear and tear of his drug habits is a bit of a downer. Now's the time to release something like that too because awareness of Brian is kind of at a peak with all of the Q&As he's done, the biopic, and his new album.

>> No.54921458

>>54920820
Dewey Cox BTFO'd every musical biopic that ever existed, why do they continue making more?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF3HPqfW5ZU

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>>54921458
>tfw black sheep is a goat track

>> No.54921626

>>54921574
it was written by Van Dyke Parks

>> No.54921649

>>54921458
>"This is not a good song"
>"This is like 5 songs on top of each other"
>"Not even a song, it's some kind of concerto"

mike love pls go

>> No.54921670

>>54921626
i know, isn't it insane? but there's no other way they could have captured that sound without either brian or vdp

>> No.54921811

>>54914976
>>54914779
>>54914595

>In 1976, Dennis Wilson claimed about "She's goin' Bald" : "I took that song in a very strange way, I thought it was more or less about oral sex. You know, [sings] 'Get a job, sha na na na, sha na na na na. What a blow...' And I thought, Jesus, that's funny as shit — [moronic voice] 'Hey, it's about getting a blow job, huh huh huh.'


Is Dennis the most based beach boy?

>> No.54921916

>>54921811
As a person? I'd say so.

>Before the album commenced recording, Dennis had befriended a musician named Charles Manson, prior to Manson's role in the Helter Skelter murders, and decided to help him in the music industry by recording his "Cease to Exist" which was reportedly written by Manson for the group. The song was reworked by Dennis Wilson for the Beach Boys, some of the lyrics were changed ... Manson explicitly told Wilson that the words were not to be altered ... When "Never Learn Not to Love" was first released by the Beach Boys as a B-side in late 1968, and credited solely to Dennis Wilson—with altered lyrics and a new bridge—Manson threatened Wilson with murder. According to Brian's collaborator Van Dyke Parks, when Manson once showed up to make good on his threat, Dennis beat him up.

>> No.54922021

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asmWlyiccMI
why is he so autistic, bros?
>>54917664
god only knows, bro

>> No.54922057

>>54922021
ONE OF US

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>>54918770
>>54919146
>beatles fags
>2015
when will they learn?

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>>54922021
I can't not smile at Brian nowadays. He can be so jovial sometimes.

Pic related, not my pic though.

>> No.54922386

>>54922021
Haha holy shit, for some reason I find this hilarious. Did he self-record this? I love how the auto-focus keeps going in and out.

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>>54922021
Brian is too good for this earth

>> No.54923307

first time listening to smile... feelin patrician

>> No.54923768

>>54923307
Its good stuff. it took me a few tries and even a few months to finally get it to click

Wonderful is currently my favorite track but that tends to change every few days. last week it was The Elements

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq_bqbqNGmA

>> No.54923918

>>54912204
Oh look, it's this shit again.

>> No.54923943

>>54923768
it would have been so much better if it would have been released in the 60's
mike love bald son of a bitch

>> No.54923985

>>54923918
He wants it to become the next meme album

>> No.54924046

>>54923918
>calling pet sounds "shit"
people like you sicken me deeply

>> No.54924057

>>54923985
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