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>As a lover of Belle and Sebastian, I was disappointed, though certainly not surprised. Over their entire discography, a grand total of two people of color have graced their album artwork, appearing on the cover of Storytelling. While Storytelling commodifies the cover girls’ culture, Belle and Sebastian commodify Whiteness; God Help the Girl merely underscores this. The film itself is an egregious mess that romanticizes a woman’s struggles with an eating disorder for the sake of Murdoch’s self-promotion. The optimistic, happy-go-lucky and painstakingly adorable aesthetic evidenced in every character he created is founded in Whiteness. Whiteness is beauty; Whiteness is what gives the character the ability to dream of fostering a career in music; Whiteness is what enables the audience to empathize with Eve’s character. A recurring filler in the film was a fictitious radio show where two men try to decipher what "real" indie is and every band mentioned is white, enforcing the film’s aspirational Whiteness. While Belle and Sebastian aren’t the only examples of perpetuating Whiteness through indie rock, this movie serves as a microcosmic view of what is wrought by racial exclusivity that is omnipresent in indie rock.

http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/710-the-unbearable-whiteness-of-indie/

>> No.54602334

who give le fuck
talk about p4k on their face book page
not here

>> No.54602364

>>54602317
when can we expect this article to be posted on their facebook page?

>> No.54602385

They are trying too hard to stay relevant.

>> No.54602388

My gosh this is literally the dumbest shit I've ever read. Was p4k this bad even two years ago? I don't remember it.

>> No.54602419
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54602419

Soon white people will not be allowed to make music.

>> No.54602437

How many shitskin artists never used whites on their covers?

>p4k BTFO

>> No.54602448

>>54602317
>MUH WHITE GUILT: the article

>> No.54602464

that's like saying "The Unbearable Blackness of Hip Hop"

>> No.54602465

everyone in this thread, including the p4k article, is a racist.

>> No.54602475

Imagine if you posted an article called

>The Unbearable Blackness of Hip Hop

>> No.54602476

Lol gotta love count recount era culture writers trying to find someone to blame for the fact that black people simply don't want to make anything other than rap.

>> No.54602484
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54602484

>Whiteness is a mark of exclusivity that must be broken; to have masses of talent ignored in favor of a select few is not acceptable. Visibility of people of color in independent music is absolutely paramount for the genre to evolve and truly represent those cast away from the scene for too long.

>> No.54602485

did they not push this film for like 3 months?

>> No.54602494

>>54602476
What the fuck autocorrect
*counter-counter-culture

>> No.54602502

>>54602419
>tfw in a band with a native dude

Feels good

>> No.54602510

This is going to sound really sexist but I seriously think that women should not be allowed to write for Pitchfork anymore.

>> No.54602513

>The unbearable blackbess of Hip-Hop

>> No.54602523

looks like is time for le new gamer gate XD

>> No.54602529

>>54602317
Holy fuck. I've read a lot of atrocious articles on the pitch recently but this has to be the worst of the lot.

>> No.54602535

>>54602317
"the ubearable blackness of hip-hop"

same could be said for many genres or really any cultural movement. race plays a large part in it. indie is associated with whiteness and represents whiteness. bands like belle and sebastian seem almost like a parody of white people. but gucci mane or something is the same thing but for hip hop. people look at people who appear as black stereotypes as empowering while people who embrace whiteness and fall into white steroetypes are criticized.

>> No.54602541
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54602541

I'm going to go out on a limp and say that there'll be at least 8 threads about this by the end of the day.

We already have 2 on the front page.

>> No.54602546

Soon they'll make black only festivals

>> No.54602552

>>54602464
>>54602475
>>54602513
>>54602535
>unbearable

>> No.54602560

>>54602484
Imagine if pitchfork wrote:
>Visibility of white people in rap music is absolutely paramount for the genre to evolve and truly represent those cast away from the scene for too long.

>> No.54602562

>>54602510
let me guess you are a middleclass cisgendered white male...

>> No.54602570

>>54602475
Pls do this

>> No.54602575

>>54602317
can we ban these fucking threads on /mu/?
no interesting discussion, just shitposting and racism that's tangentially related to music

>> No.54602576

>>54602317
Your pic is way too cute for me. Also, this article is beyond insane.

>> No.54602579
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54602579

>>54602317
>by Sarah Sahim

>> No.54602581

>>54602317
but they are right, the indie movement are a bunch of unbearable white kids crying about their own whiteness.

>> No.54602582

>>54602560
why dont we write a satire piece and spam it to them

>> No.54602592

>>54602562
Yes

and?

>> No.54602598

>>54602592
You're not allowed to have an opinion then.

>> No.54602599

Ok, these articles are clearly just designed to bait us in to getting riled up. Clickbait at its finest. Stop reacting to them and they'll stop writing them.

>> No.54602605

>>54602582
everyone should to comment "nice meme" on the post

>> No.54602618

>>54602317
its time to start /mu/gate.

Anons for ethical musical journalism. This is not ethical musical journalism.

>> No.54602623

>>54602575
>ban things I don't like
just don't go in these threads you fucking retard.

>> No.54602624

>>54602598
>not allowed to have an opinion then.


classic hypocritical extreme left liberal scum

>> No.54602631

>>54602599
These doubles are clearly designed just to get us to check them, so I will .-)

>> No.54602641

>>54602618
All journalism is dead, every publication has become a shitrag

>> No.54602643

>>54602605
second this

>> No.54602646

>>54602317
this is worse than those crybaby meredith graves articles

>> No.54602648

>>54602618
>music journalism
>pop music matters
kek

>> No.54602652

>>54602419
white people shouldn't be allowed to do anything

>> No.54602666

"White 'ambassadors' decide what parts of these musics of cultures get to filter through based on white notions of what is good, or real or what ethnomusical practices appeal to an American sense of authenticity"

i think she has mistaken whites for the jews

>> No.54602689

>>54602575
obviously there is a lot of shit posting but i think it is important to discuss race in music. sometimes racial archetypes are celebrated and sometimes it is not. what is cultural appropriation? does it exist? is it bad? is only bad with certain races or with certain intent?

styles of music and race are still very much tied and segregated. is that ok. is preserving culture good, and embracing difference good. or should we try to tare down those boundaries. make music as multicultural as possible?

they are important things to think about but not easy to answer.

>> No.54602690

>>54602666
>666
I've mistaken trips for dubs!

>> No.54602691
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54602691

>>54602562
>>54602598
>mfw a supposedly tolerant open minded person was sexist, racist, AND classist near me today

>> No.54602699

whiteness in indie really is a thing, it is something soft, innocent, non-threatening, polite, etc...

>> No.54602701

>>54602643
It can be implimented but need to know when the article is posted on social media

should be in a few mins right? as theyre posting stuff on fb now with 10 minute gaps

>> No.54602703

white people shouldn't have a proper culture.

>> No.54602722

>>54602691
it's a meme you DIP
GOD
DAM

>> No.54602738

>>54602575
Can you fucking kill yourself? No interesting discussion. Just whine posting that's only tangentially related to mu.

>> No.54602739

Bix nood mufugga clap datass bitch pussy mufugga nawmeen

>> No.54602741

>>54602699
So "blackness" is hard, guilty, threatening, and rude?

>> No.54602753

>Batmanglij and Khan are highly visible but have never courted controversy, and rarely acknowledge their ethnic heritages through their art.

Wait, is she offended that Rostam, a gay Iranian, doesn't make his background all that he is?

>> No.54602759

>>54602689
*tips fedora*

>> No.54602761

>>54602703
>white people shouldn't have a proper culture

What the fuck does this even mean? Are you saying that yes, whites do have a culture, but that they don't deserve the culture they have? In what way you fucking moron?

>> No.54602764

>>54602722
it's dubs you MANIAC

>> No.54602767

>>54602741
Popular culture tells me this is so

https://youtu.be/FUk5bUQNj00

>> No.54602782

>>54602689
yeah, but /mu/ isn't going to do that anytime soon.

>>54602623
they clog up the archives and there could be more interesting threads that are being bumped right now instead of this.

>>54602738
*thumbs up*

>> No.54602787

LE
NE
WG
AM
ER
GA
TE
XD

>> No.54602799

>>54602741
yes, that's the idea

(just in case it wasn't clear: i'm talking about cultural conceptions not my personal views)

>> No.54602812
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54602812

>>54602317

>> No.54602814

>>54602581
Big whoop, if it were anyone else they would be complaining about there whatever race they are.

>> No.54602828

IT'S TIME FOR LE REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NEW
GAMER
GATE

>> No.54602872

How does /mu/ still manage to care about pitchfork in 2015? I stopped caring in 2009.

>> No.54602877

>>54602828
we're too hip for that shit

the fags here are hypocrites who pander to qt hipster feminists to get laid

they wouldnt go through with it

/v/ on the otherhand are fat shut in neckbeards who would gladly start shit up

>> No.54602904

>>54602872
I never cared.

>> No.54602905

>>54602877
RE
VO
LU
TI
ON
KILL THE CUCKS
THE NIGERS
THE HOMOS
GAMERGATE NO. 2: MUSIC VERSION

>> No.54602919

>>54602905
embarrassing

>> No.54602926

>>54602581
That's why I listen to it, because I can relate. Im white and I live in the fucking woods in the Midwest, I don't care about gangbangin or life in the ghetto or the problems plaguing black culture, to be honest. There's way too many other people to care about that for me. I just want other sad white people making sad songs for me to listen to, without someone pointing a finger at them and screeching "THATS RACIST". What's so wrong with that?

>> No.54602930

Pitchfork

Gate

Heaven's gate

It shall be called:
Musicgate

>> No.54602931

>>54602919
GO TO LE OT HE RW EB SI TE HO MO

>> No.54602938

>>54602931
please stop posting and kill yourself immediately.

>> No.54602942

>>54602317
>reading p4k
just spotted the pleb

>> No.54602943
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54602943

>>54602930
>>54602931

>> No.54602945

>>54602938
GO TO LE OT HE RW EB SI TE HO MO

>> No.54602948

>>54602938
LE
OT
HE
RW
EB
SI
TE
FA
GG
OT
DE
TE
CT
ED

>> No.54602954

>can't even enjoy music now without being made to feel that being white is a problem

Please just fuck off already, I hate this planet.

>> No.54602956

>>54602926
That's racist.

>> No.54602969

>>54602317
/mu/ is by far the most cucked board, so I'm surprised you people aren't delighted by this

>> No.54602973
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54602973

mfw

>> No.54602977

>>54602954
J O I N
T H E
R E V O L U T I O N
K I L L T H E C U C K S

>> No.54602981
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54602981

>>54602437
YAWK YAWK YAWK

>> No.54602982

as far as i'm concerned the article makes a good point but doesn't express it well at all (so far, i haven't read the whole thing yet)

>> No.54602983

GIBS ME DAT
GIBS ME DAT
GIBS ME DAT
GIBS ME DAT

>> No.54602998

>>54602317
shut the fuck up with this /pol/ shit and stop trying to make music political

>> No.54603008

>>54602969
why would i like race baiters?

>> No.54603014

GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW

>> No.54603022

>>54602998
GO TO LE OT HE RW EB SI TE HO MO

>> No.54603044

>>54602464
>>54602475
>>54602535
>"The Unbearable Blackness of Hip Hop"
This would actually be true, I hate niggers and their so called "music"
Except Death Grips, of course

>> No.54603066

>>54602977
>>54603022
>>54603044
reminder that unchecked dubs is worse than murder

>> No.54603067

>>54602787
>>54602828
>>54602905
>>54602931
>>54602945
>>54602948
>>54602977
>>54603014
>>54603022
This is pathetic, moot should have closed the shutters behind him when he left this shit site for good.

>> No.54603068
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54603068

>>54602582
>>54602605
here's a satire I wrote:
http://pastebin.com/tKZ09Hdj

>> No.54603071

>>54602998
>stop trying to make music political
Tell it Kendrick, Immortal Tech, Common and other rappers complaining about whitey

>> No.54603087

>>54602926
Nothing, except for the fact that indie is objectively shit music.

>> No.54603090

So /mu/

A rabbit or a habit?

>> No.54603094

>>54603067
GO TO BE DM OO T.

>> No.54603112

>>54602317
Belle and Sebastian is white as fuck, twee as fuck, this is not new. Like, O.K., and so?

>> No.54603121

Lol does this article actually propose anything or is literally just using music as an example for how minorities are oppressed (believe it or not everyone reading pitchfork already knows that)
yes, white people and POC in the U.S. have different cultures and hence make and listen to different music. music is also an art form, which is objectively useless except for entertainment purposes. we don't need affirmative action applied to shit that is literally just for fun. I read these articles and it's underwhelming as fuck, because they're just using the indie rock scene to make a point high school english teachers make all the time using examples of things that actually matter, like jobs or education.
anyone that thinks this extends beyond a thinkpiece is an absolute idiot. even the snide pitchfork writers on Twitter won't go any further than namelessly berating a band for having no women or POC members. it's a fucking pissing contest for who's the most disadvantaged.
here's the thing tho, no actual music listeners will give a shit, because actually caring about this means you care more about academia than music.

>> No.54603124

seriously,

does /mu/ have any janitors at all?

there's always a /pol/ thread in the front page now

>> No.54603130

>>54603067
mad SJW detected.

your efforts to shut down our honey comb message board of meme-posts has failed. back to wherever you came from, hipf (hipster internet defense force)

>> No.54603146

>>54603124
this means one thing

the janitors are making these threads. Wake up sheeple

>> No.54603152

>>54603124
> OP posts a pitchfork article
> this is /pol/

>> No.54603156

>>54603124
MO DS AR EU SL ES SN OW
RE VO LU TI ON IS AT HA ND

>> No.54603157

>>54602317
>Is p4k anti-white
probably

>> No.54603166

>>54602317
Holy shit p4k doesn't even have black writers wtf is this shit

>> No.54603178
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54603178

https://twitter.com/sahizzurp/status/580768686203621376

>> No.54603182

>>54603152
>anti-white bias
>not /pol/

>> No.54603194

>>54603166
>66
equal opportunity dubs

>> No.54603213

>>54603178
There you have it folks. Women love writing these pieces because the internet heaps attention on them. Attentionbait. We are guilty as well.

>> No.54603219

>mfw people on this board that actually disagreed with me when I said Pitchfork doesn't have a huge liberal bias
>mfw people on this board still won't acknowledge the blatant favouritism and higher grading system Pitchfork uses for black artists

>> No.54603227

>indie bands not doing everything they can to cure society's ills

mea culpa. next question.

[not white btw :^)]

>> No.54603234

>>54603219
ITS TIME FOR
LE NEW
GAMERGATE

>> No.54603237
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54603237

Pitchfork went full cuckold in 2010 with the Kanye 10.0

It's been ruined since

http://carles.buzz/did-sxswthe-internet-get-too-urban-via-netstream-hip_hop/

>> No.54603241

>>54603178
#killallwhitemales

>> No.54603249

>>54603178
>Sahim
Sounds like a fucking Sandnigger.

>> No.54603251

>>54603178
look at those self congratulatory self hating white people who favorited it.

>> No.54603256

You know what we need more of around here?

We need more happy talk

>> No.54603273

>>54603237
GA
ME
RG
AT
E 2
MU
SI
CE
DI
TI
ON
ST
AR
TS
NO
W!

>> No.54603276

>>54603178
>arab
>talks about blowing up

she has no limits

>> No.54603278

>>54603178
>that fat girl angle shot as profile pic
top fucking kek, i can still tell from her cheeks that she is an obese cunt

>> No.54603286

>>54603121
I think you missed the point of the article. It's not so much about race quota, it's more about the concept of whiteness. I don't like the way the following article is written but it's about the similar thing without any mention of race:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/08/beware-of-cupcake-fascism

Both articles talk more or less about the same thing imo. Anger and action is something "rude" or "not chill" as opposed to taking walks in the pretty city park on a calm day. The latter is part of what is meant by "whiteness of indie".

>> No.54603292
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54603292

>these are your unbiased 'Music journalists' who write for Pitchfork

>> No.54603300

>>54603273
>>54603234
>trying to incite problems
v/tumblr go

>> No.54603316

>>54603276
>>54603278
>>54603292
WE'LL KILL THIS SLUT
TWITTER STYLE IN:
THE SECOND GAMERGATE
NOW IT'S ABOUT MUSIC

>> No.54603323

>>54603234
>>54603273

Stop shitposting, hopefully youre being reported.

Youre basically trying to silence the voices of anyone offended by this article, equating them to "Gamer Gate" (whatever the fuck that was, never looked into)

You're angry that this awful racist article isn't being embraced by /mu/. Anything that isn't 100% SJW approved, you equate to "/pol/"

Your tactics are weak. Your kind is being weeded out of 4chan. You need to return to Tumblr, Reddit or the Stereogum comments section.

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54603324

>SJWfork

>> No.54603329

>>54603178
I don't agree with SJWs, but as a recovering internet troll, I can't help but admire them.

>> No.54603335

>>54602317
Pointing out things that we were well aware of 10 years ago is a start pitchfork.

Indie is the whitest, safest type of music ever, how could it have any artistic integrity? Rock music is supposed to be black, uninhibited, sexual, and socially transgressive. The sanitation of rock and roll from its negro roots must end.

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54603363

>ugly fat arab woman
why are people like this allowed

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54603364

>> No.54603365

>>54603251
probalby doing it ironically,
someone reply to her saying something like: "If you wrote unbearable blackness of hip hop you would be labelled racist and could say goodbye to your career, but since you wrote about whiteness its ok"

>> No.54603366

>>54603219
they actually are really harsh with rap artists not being drake, kendrick and kanye.

>> No.54603367
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54603367

>>54603178
>>54603292
I'd love to tell her I'm a black woman stuck in a white man's body. Help me, I'm oppressed.

>> No.54603373

>>54603316
>i'm going to post outrageous things on the side of the issue i don't like to make them look bad loL!!! :^) epic troll

Fuck off.

>> No.54603377

>>54603323
literally who cares
Pitchfork is for children
4chan is 18+, even /mu/
this thread should have been automatically pruned for linking to a pitchfork-related website

>> No.54603378

>>54603364
feckin pocks

>> No.54603384

This thread has been on the front page since I got on /mu/ this morning, at the very top of /mu/.

Nice going /mu/.
Expose the SJW's ruining music journalism.

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54603388

pitchfork writer ned ragget

BTFO

>> No.54603396

>>54603286
>our country is mostly white
>our art and ideals are geared towards white people
>there are double standards when minorities do something
yeah, no shit. none of that has anything to do with specifically music tho. pitchfork loses their shit for the "against all odds" narrative. it's literally less of a problem in music than almost every other industry.

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54603400

>>54603300
>>54603366
>>54603377
>>54603388
nice dubs

>> No.54603401

>>54603335
>Indie is the whitest, safest type of music ever, how could it have any artistic integrity? Rock music is supposed to be black, uninhibited, sexual, and socially transgressive. The sanitation of rock and roll from its negro roots must end.

hey Louis, I love your stand up stuff, can you sign an autograph?

>> No.54603405

>>54603388
BASED NIGGER

>> No.54603408
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54603408

Jesus that nose must be fucking huge

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54603409

God dammit.

>> No.54603410

>>54603388
Internalized racism

You can't win against SJW internet arguing.

>> No.54603415

>>54603323
Hi there!
you must be new to this board!
This board is for music
complaining what journalist write is /pol/

>> No.54603419

>>54603388
Preach it antowain

>> No.54603424
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54603424

DUDE WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE DEVIL LMAO

>> No.54603428

>>54603396
>>our country is mostly white
>>our art and ideals are geared towards white people
>>there are double standards when minorities do something
what? i'm not saying that at all. read that article m8. it has no mention of race or gender. here's the link again:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/08/beware-of-cupcake-fascism
it reads like a description of the indie scene imo

>> No.54603431

>>54603388
Wow. That black guy below Ned Faggot is based.

>> No.54603438

>>54603401
Shut up cucklord, these pitchfork writers are whiter than me.

>> No.54603445

arabs are caucasian btw

>> No.54603446

>>54603424
Uh oh, she better be careful or those Twitter replies might give her PTSD

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54603448

>>54603415
>"Ugh, back to /pol/"

>> No.54603449

>>54603424
What the fuck does "arctic whiteness" even mean? Like what does the prefix arctic try to convey?

>> No.54603453
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54603453

GAS THE WHITES, RACE WAR NOW

>> No.54603454

>>54603431
its probably a white /mu/tant with a fake twitter account.

>> No.54603458

>>54603409
>"I'm making so many white guys angry"
>"Therefore I'm immune to criticism xD"

>> No.54603462

>>54603415
well right now this is
GAM
ERG
ATE
ALL
OVE
RAG
AIN

>> No.54603473

>>54603448
>>54603408
>>54603363
>that stupid ass half smile smirk in every photo
can already tell she is a cunt

i can hear her voice in my head, that fucking annoying arab/indian accent

>> No.54603490

>>54603438
>calling me cucklord

what are you trying to say?

>> No.54603492
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54603492

>>54603367
Sorry bruh.

>> No.54603497

>>54603454
Almost definitely. His picture is next to the reply box.

>> No.54603500

Sarah bin al Sahim for QTOTY2015

>> No.54603505

>>54603449
>prefix arctic
http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/adjectives.htm
ffs

>> No.54603509

>>54603448
I'm Estonian,
I've never met a black man in my life.
I only car about music.
Lately there all this board talks about is about how much white Americans hate themselves.

why must this be in /mu/?

>> No.54603511

>>54603490
>what are you trying to say?

that ur a faget.

>> No.54603519

>>54603400
>>54603500
one century between dubs

>> No.54603525

>>54603505
who gives a shit

anyway what does she mean by arctic whiteness?

>> No.54603527

>>54603090
I STILL CANT FIND MY GOOD HAAAAAABIIIITS

>> No.54603545
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54603545

Or maybe India is just a shithole.

>> No.54603548

>>54603527
EEEEEE DOO DOO DOO DOOOO
DEE DEE DEE DEE DOO DOO DOO DEE
HAAAAAAAW

>> No.54603556
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54603556

First they came for /v/ and no one spoke up because we were not autistic
Now they've come for indie music and there is no one left to speak

>> No.54603558

Why don't we just kill all white people?

>> No.54603559
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54603559

>>54603419
>>54603388
>>54603405
How can one man be so based?

>> No.54603561

>>54602317
she purposely wrote a racist article to get people mad

just ignore it, don't give her any more publicity

>> No.54603563

>>54603364
>light skinned blacks
>having privilege
Yep thats sjw ignorance alright

>> No.54603567

>>54603428
dude it's fucking indie rock. it's a reflection of what people already think not a method of getting anyone to do anything.
can you explain to me what exactly are the implications of this?

>> No.54603568

>>54603545
Pitchfork hired this person to write for them.

Let that sink in.

>> No.54603575

>>54603492
how do these people get hired?

they're saying crazy shit online and they get to keep their jobs?

>> No.54603578

what's a microagression?

>> No.54603580

>>54602652
Nothing would ever get done

>> No.54603588

>2015
>still being white

FUCK OFF NORMIE, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.54603589

>>54603545
these are the people who influence what music we discuss here on /mu/.

these are the people who direct our conversation and discourse.

>> No.54603599

>>54603556
good thing rock music isn't really music and art music will survive anything

>> No.54603605

>>54603492
>transethnicity
how would she feel about white males dressing in black face because they were transethnic...

>> No.54603625

>>54603525
very white. the color white is associate with arctic regions... how retarded are you?

>> No.54603635

>>54603511
wow, I'll change my opinion from now on. thank you anon

>> No.54603638

>>54603559
damn son.

> #musicgate #notyourshield

>> No.54603656

>>54603364
But she's a light-skinned PoC. At least she looks like one in her picture.

>> No.54603661

>>54603599
yikes

>> No.54603676

>>54603625
Of course I fucking know what arctic means, I have just never ever heard someone call people "arctic white"

Am I "arctic white" because I have blonde hair and blue eyes? The whole term sounds retarded, people like me live all over the world

>> No.54603678

>>54603599
What the fuck is "art music"?

>> No.54603679

>>54603661
yeah it's scary how obviously bad music is popular now

>> No.54603682

I'm grateful for the cuck meme. It came at the perfect time.

>> No.54603695

>>54603578
The sjw endorsed practice of making a mountain out of a molehill

>> No.54603700

>>54603678
hello, neo-/mu/

>> No.54603702
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54603702

Sarah 'Grab a Gun go Wild on every White Man, Woman and Child' Sahim

>> No.54603703

>>54603559
Holy shit this guy is fucking based.

Self-righteous libfags getting BTFO.

>> No.54603708
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54603708

>>54603676
> tfw arctic white master race

feels good

>> No.54603715

>>54603702
What the fuck is going on here? Why is she so obsessed with whitey?

>> No.54603722

>>54603695
>The sjw endorsed practice of making a mountain out of a molehill

You mean what they do on a daily basis?

>> No.54603724

>>54603676
i mean id never heard the phrase used before but youde have to be retarded not to understand what she meant by it in that context.

>> No.54603726

>>54603702
What am I reading

>> No.54603736

>>54603700
>neo-[board name]
Back to /v/ with you

>> No.54603744

>>54603722
>22
checking these is what I do on a regular basis

>> No.54603750

>>54602317
Your mean that historically white genres contain almost solely white people? Where's the outrage over "The Unbearable Blackness of Hip-Hop". This is the dumbest thing I've read. I used to love P4K but they've gone full cuck.

>> No.54603751

>>54603724
So she is saying very white looking white people make her uncomfortable? That's pretty fucking insane

>> No.54603754

>>54603702

her family must have owned a lot of slaves

i wonder if her great grandpappy fucked his slaves in order to make more slaves

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54603758

>>54603744

>> No.54603760

>>54603702
Waaaaaiiit a minute I get it, she's being ironic. She has to be. It's the only way any of this makes any sense.

>> No.54603766

newsflash pitchfork writters are SJW faggot male white guilt ridden feminists

>> No.54603767

>>54603559
not even a sjw but damn

>> No.54603774

>>54603068
nice work

underrated post

>> No.54603777

Uhhh... entitled Straight White Males... please fuck off okay??

>> No.54603779

>>54603702
Is this fucking real what the hell

>> No.54603781
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54603781

This woman is literally obsessed with white people.

Pitchfork actually made a conscious decision to hire this woman to write an opinion piece for them.

>> No.54603789

>>54603700
Thanks for explaining and not just giving me a meme retort.

>> No.54603803

>>54603702
Is it supposed to be funny because she's an Arab and they're the ones who starting trading African slaves in the first place? In that case it's a pretty swell joke.

>> No.54603805

>>54603066

>> No.54603810
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54603810

>>54603777
> starting with uhhhh
> using .....
> ending with 'please fuck off okay'?

Pretty good, you've nearly adopted all their mannerisms, now we can assimilate you into their culture to be a sleeper agent for us. Godspeed, anon.

>> No.54603812

>>54603781
She is a fat ugly Indian woman, she probably has a huge complex over the fact that she will never be seen as valuable as white women

It's funny how stereotypical these people are..

>> No.54603820

>>54603766
>66
newsflash dubs are the best
>>54603777
>777
uh... Trips, please stay

>> No.54603823

I like how she and others who write this kind of stuff shield themselves from criticism by automatically disregarding any as straight-white-male-rage.

Must be nice to write complete and utter garbage and have total immunity from any negative reaction.

>> No.54603825

>>54603781
That's kind of the point of an opinion piece.

You find people with opinions.

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54603826

>>54603744
Check yr dubs whiteboi.

>> No.54603837

>>54603751
she obviously wasnt talking about just skin color, but their mindsets, personalities and interests. are you autistic? im not saying i agree with her but how can you not understand waht she is saying?

>> No.54603838

>>54603777
I may be white but I'm definitely not straight.

>> No.54603850

>>54603837
It's still insane

If white looking white people with typical white people personalities and interests make her uncomfortable she is fucking insane

>> No.54603852

facebook /Pitchfork

/10153196655326000

"nice meme"

>> No.54603863

>>54603567
what i'm saying is that indie really does often paint reality as some magic fairy land where everyone is/should be polite and everything is/should be safe. where do you encounter these sweet polite people in actual reality? whenever somebody tries to sell you something, whether it's a product or an idea, whenever someone tries to paint the relations between people nicely. whereas anger comes from the one that's fucked in the ass in the process. the whiteness part comes in only after you consider the fact that this thing has traces of white middle class lifestyles with their obnoxious liberalism and opposition to any explicit conflict, so that we can keep that status quo.

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54603864

>>54603777
>>54603810
Ayyyyyy

>> No.54603886

Extremely black people make me uncomfortable.

>> No.54603887

>>54603852
IS IT HAPPENING??!?!!??

>> No.54603890

>>54603825
>find people with opinions

How about ones that come from places of actual merit, or do we just not bother with that anymore and let anyone hold the mic?

>> No.54603891

>>54603067
KILL ALL NON WHITES

>> No.54603897
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54603897

>>54603852

>> No.54603900

Wow I can't even..
I just got here from reddit cause someone told me there was decent music discussion over here, but all I see are racists... I can't even, what? If you don't believe this place is racist, please just fuck off.

>> No.54603901

>>54603863
This is why I hate indie, and what I generally agree with the article about.

It is boring, inoffensive, safety scissors music, it doesn't represent anything.

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54603905

>>54603887

>> No.54603909

>>54603897
tippity toppety kek

>> No.54603929

>>54603909
acted on the post a little too late but it has begun my friend

>> No.54603930

>>54603900
checked

>> No.54603937

Do you think she's masturbating to all the mad white guys posting negative comments on facebook and twitter?

>> No.54603957

>>54603937
Just look at pics of her in this thread, this is probably the only way she ever gets any attention from white guys

>> No.54603960

>>54603901
please tell us what tpab "represented" to you

>> No.54603963
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54603963

>>54603897

>> No.54603976

>>54603237
Carles was ahead of his time.

Amidst all the jokes, he actually knew a decent amount about culture and trends that would follow.

>> No.54603991

>>54603901
Why does music have force itself to be super confrontational and political when in the end living the life in basically every Western country in 2015 is pretty care-free and nice

>> No.54604034

>>54603991
This tbh.

>> No.54604075

ugghhhh.... guys... stop oppresing me okay, these are only my objective opinions!!!!!

>> No.54604089

>>54603991
>Why does music have force itself to be super confrontational and political

It doesn't, it has to take up space, to make a statement, that is the purpose of art.

It doesn't have to be a political statement either, so don't shoehorn what I said into that, but music should say something, and boring, supermarket loudspeaker feed to provide the backdrop for geriatrics to wade through cans and bottles doesn't really say much of anything. Indie is empty, soulless music and that is why I hate it.

>> No.54604103

>>54603905
Carmela would you please shut the DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

>> No.54604106

>>54603900
>I can't even
no you're not from reddit which is sort of forgivable for their music (fuck dream theater tho lol), you're tumblr as fuck. Some people are racist on 4chan, a loud minority on /mu/ at least but all media is like "things are too white" well maybe they should open their eyes to what reality is actually like, things aren't dominated by white people/men, that's prehistoric to believe that.
Anyway, indie rock sucks dick

>> No.54604122

>>54604089
Music doesn't HAVE TO make any statements (nor art), being enjoyable to listen to or view can be all that is needed

And oppositely music or other art doesn't have to be enjoyable, of course

>> No.54604136

>>54602317
Bet a lot of the people spergging out have overlap with /v/ and Gamergate

>> No.54604145

>>54603364
>light-skinned PoC
Like this sjw knows shit about light-skinned treatment, unless you're Blake Griffin toned then you a Black Griffin for all anyone cares

>> No.54604152

>>54604122
DUBS
U

>> No.54604155

>>54604122
Yes, you're right.

Then again, who are we to judge art?

>> No.54604158

GUYS ITS HAPPENING

>> No.54604174

>>54604155
>55
Only God can judge these ,-)

>> No.54604193

>>54603715
She has been taught well.

>> No.54604198

>>54603068
I like

>> No.54604242

future of clickbait right here.

>> No.54604262
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54604262

>The price of being outspoken about race, for Heems or MIA—is much higher than it is for any white musicians with a message, be it Kathleen Hanna or Kim Gordon’s mass appeal white feminism or Bono, whose career is foundationally built on his white savior complex.

>> No.54604270

>>54603364
I have yet to receive any privilege for being light-skinned. Fuck this person.

>> No.54604273

>TFW can't stop being white and unknowingly privleged

recommend me good helium tanks

>> No.54604285

>>54604273
just take you're autism pills XD

>> No.54604301

And you questioned me when I said that women are a meme

>> No.54604316

>>54604270
Did you email the Patriarchy? They usually get back to you in like 3 or 4 days.

>> No.54604348

Getting pretty sick of this privileged white cis male meme.

>> No.54604349

>>54604316
>implying they don't take 3 or 4 centuries to get back to you

>> No.54604353

>>54604273
>Born white
>Born into racism
>Hypocritical anti racists attack my people with racism

>> No.54604410

It's okay, another decade or so and whites will be the minority, it'll finally be okay to make music about how great it is being white.

>> No.54604441

>>54604410
takbir brother

>> No.54604455

>>54604316
Do you think they don't respond because I'm also into guys?

Also:
>P4K
>praise various white artists
>ignore Mexican/South American/Asian/African artists
>if they do acknowledge these groups it's usually a critical or ehh review
>complain that things are too white

They should literally be blaming themselves. They are part of the reason.

>> No.54604464

Give ONE good reason all whites should not be fucking gassed

>> No.54604480

>>54604455
>44
>55
nice duplos

>> No.54604512
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54604512

>this board
>these janitors

>> No.54604516

>>54593405

>> No.54604517

>>54604455
Well, who the fuck cares about non-English music.

They need views to stay afloat, they just cater to a crowd.

>> No.54604556

>>54604464
I literally can't. Literally. And I have been white for over 22 YEARS. Please end me.

>> No.54604557

>>54604301
I was the one who said woman are a meme and im glad it caught on in a way

>> No.54604581

>>54604464
The internet would stop working for one.

>> No.54604595

It's like a fucking Kotaku article.

>> No.54604612

>>54604581
>implying the total collapse of society is a bad thing
>implying the complete instantaneous destruction of humanity would be a bad thing

>> No.54604643

>>54603976
this article is from yesterday

>> No.54604650
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54604650

>>54602753
yeah this line is a load of shit. ridiculous.

>mfw P4K is Kotaku now
>mfw I will only read pastebins of their site for a week then go back to reading the news in 3 days

>> No.54604661

this was a good article, much less of a stretch than some of the other *admittedly* overdone stuff they've been publishing

stop being /pol/ and fucking read it, if you don't think that indie is a white boys club you're deluded AF

>> No.54604666

>>54604512
she's a horrible actor damn

>> No.54604681

>>54604666

I agree shes a much better actress.

>> No.54604683

>>54603066
DAMN SON

>> No.54604690

>>54604595
G8TER CONFIRMED

CONFIRMED G8TOR

GO BACK TO /V/

>> No.54604695

I fully agree with everything in this article

>> No.54604699

>>54604666
>666
these are magnificent trips dang

>> No.54604701

>>54604455
they do blame themselves in the article

>> No.54604717

>>54602317
Imagine "The Unbearable Blackness Of Rap".

>> No.54604724

>>54604699
checked

>> No.54604727

>>54604701
Thanks for telling me. I only read the Rostam part and clicked out of the article.

>> No.54604730

>p4k writing about something being "unbearably white"
POT

KETTLE

BLACK

>> No.54604734

>>54604681
Bit sexist tbh

>> No.54604764

>>54604661
OBVIOUSLY its a white boys club. But it's not a fucking race issue, the fact that white dominate the indie scene has to do with culture. There is no systemic racism keeping non-whites out of the scene. It's a "just-so" kind of thing, and all she does is point out that the indie scene is dominated by whites. It isn't hard for non-whites to enter the scene - the scene is largely controlled by conglomerates like P4K who are all about social justice. The other ethnicities just aren't there in as frequent numbers as whites. It's a ridiculous and inflammatory article

>> No.54604777

>>54604661
Why is it a problem if something is predominantly white?

>> No.54604782

>>54603963
le reddit army has arrived XD

>> No.54604803

>>54604777
>777
What's the problem if trips are still being checked?

>> No.54604809

>>54604764
/thread

>> No.54604825

>>54604777
Because those dumbfucks have never taken a statistics class and don't understand that correlation doesn't imply causation.

Something being predominantly whites to their eyes means that the whites are actively blocking black people (because American SJWs always talk about blacks when they refer to "people of color") out from it.

>> No.54604832

>>54604764
the article isn't even about some racial quota. has anyone even read it instead of skimming it?

>> No.54604838

>>54604777
it is not, western society is predominantly white and objectively superior to the culture of third world shit holes

>> No.54604871

>>54604832
obviously not, I don't want to give p4k page views

>> No.54604873
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54604873

>One does not imagine he meant the native Aboriginal population of Australia when envisioning his perfect leading lady
No, one does not.

>> No.54604884

funny how pitchfork is 90 % white and 95% of their reviews are for white artists

>> No.54604901
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54604901

>>54604832
Yes, I read it. The most compelling point she made was about Heems and M.I.A. receiving criticism for being outspoken while Bono isn't. It's a load of shit. Everybody thinks Bono is a cunt, he isn't given some special treatment just because he's white. I've seen tons of praise for M.I.A. bringing light to 3rd world issues. Her points were mostly shite.

>mfw I spit hot fire

>> No.54604907

>>54604873
No wonder Australians have a strong tradition of discriminating against abbos, they hardly look even human

>> No.54604912

>>54604782
>le reddit army has arrived

yep, get out

>> No.54604935

>>54604884
the author addressed that in the article

>> No.54604944

>>54604661
>>54604764
It was a pretty shit article that was written to try and justify Heems and M.I.A.'s shit output of late. She also focused exclusive on Desi people rather than any other minorities so the author obviously had one issue only when writing this article and that's "why aren't there more brown people in indie music."

And as for indie being a white boys club. That's obviously going to be the case when indie music was born in the West (including Europe) where, last time I checked, over 75% (probably more) of people are white. It's most popular in the West as well, reaching out and inspiring millions of white people and thus the cycle continues. It's not gonna drastically change unless India or Nigeria or China take over the scene.

>> No.54604954

NEW THREAD

>>54604943

>>54604943

>>54604943

>> No.54604961

>>54604944
>44
groovy doubles my free-form internet lost soul brother

>> No.54604965
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54604965

>>54604901
This also pisses me off. Obviously all the /mu/tants commenting are acting like children, but if you are proud of yourself for pissing off white guys, you probably aren't writing your article for the right reasons. The goal should be to get people to listen to you and consider your points by writing thoughtful and nuanced criticism. She hasn't done that.

>> No.54604977

>>54604935
she just points out how they praise Vampire Weekend for their afro influences. She really undermines the problem in my opinion.

>> No.54604999

>>54604944
>unless India or Nigeria or China take over the scene
I would honestly like to hear influences from these countries in indie rock.
Or a black voice over a indie rock music bed.
But that article is just ridiculous.

>> No.54605005

>>54604977
>77
sproingy doubles frogman!
let's rescue the trapped salamanders from king alexander

>> No.54605040

>>54604965
>>54604944
Her point about Kanye was ALSO shit. As if Kanye is hated for being black. FUCKING PLEASE. Everybody knows that he's hated for being an arrogant outspoken rock star that calls himself a god. I love Kanye and think the hate he gets is ridiculous but that petition isn't fucking racist.

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