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54470619 No.54470619 [Reply] [Original]

You ain't gotta lie to kick it my nigga

>> No.54470627

epic

somply memetastic

>> No.54470631

BOO BOO

>> No.54470641

So racism thread?
Racism thread.

>> No.54470645

I SAW YOU WAS CONFLICTED

>> No.54470673 [DELETED] 

>>54470619
>>54470645
>>54470631
kill all niggers

>> No.54470691

>>54470673

>>>/b/
>>>/pol/

pick one dadrock faggot

>> No.54470694

One of the most boring songs on the album. If he removed this, Institutionalized, and Complexion, it could be close to 10/10

>> No.54470697

>>54470645
MISUING YOUR INFLUENCE TO GET FREE CHICKUM

>> No.54470747

>>54470694
MASTA TAKE THE CHAINS OFF ME!! ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM

>> No.54470753

>>54470645
MISUSING YOUR INFLUENCE

>> No.54470823

>>54470694
>Institutionalized, and Complexion
>not great
but yea you ain't gotta lie is the weakest

>> No.54470849

>>54470747
Well zoom'd my friend

>> No.54470868

>>54470694
>>54470697
>>54470747
>>54470753
>>54470645
Truly deep, a masterpiece of an album. Really insightful social commentary.

>> No.54470996

WHO
THE
FUCK
IS
LUCY

>> No.54471021

>>54470996
Lucifer aka the devil. Is Kendrick really 2deep4u?

>> No.54471053

>>54470694
Nigga Institutionalized is one of the best tracks on there
>not liking Snoop's narration

>> No.54471072

>>54470996
are you serious dude

>> No.54471111

>>54471021
>lucifer
>the devil

>> No.54471138

>>54470691
Holy shit did the rule against racism just get enforced on that guy or am I going insane?

>> No.54471165

THIS DICK AINT FREE

>> No.54471181

>>54471111
>being this retarded while getting quads

>> No.54471206

>>54470694
alright was the most boring song for me.

how many times can you hear:

"NIGGA WE GON BE ALRIGHT!"

with

"DAH DAH DAH DAH"

>> No.54471225

>>54471138
welcome to /mu/mblr

>> No.54471265

>you will never hear the 2Pac interview for the first time again

>> No.54471269

>>54471206
>listening to Alright
>keep thinking someone is talking behind me
>realize theres some woman talking in the background of the track

ruined

>> No.54471350

>>54471165
That was certaintly the dumbest lyric I've heard in awhile.

That being said,
>TPAB-8.5/10

>> No.54471389

>>54471269
ugh dude every time

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54471460

>>54471350
oh come on

how much of a boring fuck do you have to be to not like the For Free interlude

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54471472

>>54471021
>implying nigga

>> No.54471490

>>54471460
both the interludes are growing on me
for sale? is in my top 3 now

>> No.54471507

>I remember you was conflicted
>Your shoes and your influence

>> No.54471607

>>54471206
>>54471269
>tfw i like alright

>> No.54471721

>>54471350
I think it's supposed to be humourous. Like a mockery of the character or pop music or something.

>> No.54471749

BLAQ DON CRAQ MUH NIGGUH

>> No.54471917

>>54471721
>B.. b.. but it's supposed to be shit...
The responce to every criticism of Kendrick ever.

>> No.54471955

The album name is the worst thing about the album

>> No.54471999

>>54471917
for sure

>> No.54472032

>>54471917
That's layers for you, too bad you're such a pleb m8

>> No.54472215

>>54472032
>if u dont geddit ur stupid
Thanks for unironically confirming what I just said bro.

>> No.54472297

>>54471917
>Humorous = shit
You must be fun at parties.

>> No.54472319

>>54471955
Did you even listen to the last track?

>> No.54472369

I like Kendrick Lamar

unlike that piece of shit talentless hack paparazzi hype machine egomaniac, Lamar can actually rap

still /mu/ loves both, much to my exasperation and confusion

>> No.54472505

>>54472369
agreed

>> No.54472598

>Tfw How Much A Dollar Cost

>> No.54472655

>>54472319
Yeah.

>> No.54472709

>>54472319
Sup Anthony?

>> No.54472712

>>54471206
>>54471269
>>54471607
>closest thing to a mainstream trendy hip hop song on the album
>WOW OMG IT SUCKS RIGHT /mu/??
>Yeah man!

Kind of disgusting tbh.
Kendrick flows incredibly well on this track and his delivery is top notch. The lyricism is spot on and the message is pretty bleak.
Not to mention the extremely catchy hook and beat. You probably dislike this song because you're a hipster.

>> No.54472718

I NEED DAT SLOPPY

>> No.54472754

>>54472712
I think it's a pretty good song, I just don't understand why the DAH DAH had to be so prominent for all of it.

>> No.54472762

while there's a kendrick thread where did that colbert report track end up? it wasn't on the album, was it?

>> No.54472774

>>54470996
Looshy*

>> No.54472797

>>54472369
/mu/ just pretends like whatever a bunch of bearded flannel wearing brooklynite internet bloggers pretend to like, which is really just a toss up between awful shit tier crappers like Tyler and Kanye, and the occasional odd talented artist like Kendrick. There's no rhyme or reason to it really.

>> No.54472828

>>54472762
It didn't. Pisses me off. But at least we're spared the

>WHAT DID THE ASIAN SAYYYY?

threads.

>> No.54472831

>How much a dollar really cost?
>The question is detrimental, paralyzin' my thoughts
>Parasites in my stomach keep me with a gut feeling, y'all
>Gotta see how I’m chillin' once I park this luxury car
>Hopping out feeling big as Mutombo
>20 on pump six dirty Marcellus called me Dumbo
>20 years ago, can't forget
>Now I can lend all my ear or two how to stack these residuals
>Tenfold, the liberal concept of what men'll do
>20 on 6, he didn't hear me
>Indigenous African only spoke Zulu
>My American tongue was slurry
>Walked out the gas station
>A homeless man with a semi-tan complexion
>Asked me for ten rand, stressin' about dry land
>Deep water, powder blue skies that crack open
>A piece of crack that he wanted, I knew he was smokin'
>He begged and pleaded
>Asked me to feed him twice, I didn't believe it
>Told him, "Beat it"
>Contributin' money just for his pipe, I couldn't see it
>He said, "My son, temptation is one thing that I've defeated
>Listen to me, I want a single bill from you
Nothin' less, nothin' more"
>I told him I ain't have it and closed my door
>Tell me how much a dollar cost
what the fuck is this dumb shit ? where are the bangers?

>> No.54472858

>>54472754
The album has a pretty psychadelic vibe throughout the entire album. And considering he talks about how the song is basically about escapism under the influence of religion, drugs , etc, i think the "DAH DAH" psychedelic beat makes a lot of sense within the context of the song.

>> No.54472864

>>54472831
thank you for this, i cant afford rap genius

>> No.54472882

>>54472864
How much a genius cost?

>> No.54472990

>>54472858
To add to this, I find it kind of funny how this is the catchiest, most comfortable song on the album. kendrick's mental state on this song is the easiest place to be for most people. Escapism is really comfortable. Who wants to worry about the bullshit going on in their life when they can just straight up find reasons to ignore it?

>> No.54473029

>>54472762
There better be a studio version

>> No.54473078

>People hate radio rap
>WHERE ARE THE RADIO BANGERS
>People are social shut ins and even go as far as the call people "normalfags"
>Those same people say the album has no club bangers
>Implying you or me and 80% of this board even go to clubs to dance and party if at all.

If the music is good then its good what the fuck why does it matter if it has something for clubs and radio stations and who the fuck uses the word "banger" anymore.

Oh thats right you're all out of touch white kids and middle class black kids who really don't know shit.

>> No.54473083

>>54471490
>my name is lucy kendrick

>> No.54473102

>>54471507
how stupid are you

>> No.54473113

>>54470747
zoom zoom zoom

>> No.54473124

I love how kendrick pulls you right down with "u" and then swings you right back up with "alright" <3

>> No.54473141

>>54473078
I like to think of it like this: Kendrick doesn't want the album to be comfortable. The issues hes tackling within the album are inherenty uncomfortable to most people on this planet, so why the fuck should the music sound comfortable, catchy, or have lots of "bangers". I think this concept is pretty much confirmed the moment the "Alright" hook kicks in.

>> No.54473185

>>54473141
he's played the game perfectly. if he had of dropped this before GKMC way less people would have given TPAB a listen, but he reeled in the casual fans before dropping his thought-provoking masterpiece

>> No.54473240

>>54473185
Yeah he definitely is very aware of what people want from him and when they want what they want.

>> No.54473257

>>54473185
GKMC was a thought-provoking masterpiece.

TPAB was just Kendrick jumping on the imaginary race tension bandwagon so he could have something to sing about.

>> No.54473270

I'm 3 songs in so far, and I'm really really unimpressed with this so-called Jazz.

Maybe I need to listen to it a few more times, but so far this is full of poorly structured, busy, maximalist melodies that aren't nearly as good as similar stuff by Kanye.

As far as the whole concept goes, it seems pretty shallow compared to stuff like Nigger by Nas.


Where are the Hol 'Ups and Good Kids? So far it just seems like shitty minimalist beats with faux-maximalist jazz and funk basslines over it.

Are modern rap fans so jazz and funk starved that this is impressive?

I'm reaching for the term Ersatz shit.

>> No.54473285

>>54473257
>imaginary race tension

lol

GKMC didnt provoke any thought, it was just cool as hell. Ive seen more white kids discussing race issues than ever since TPAB dropped

>> No.54473290

>>54473270
Just hit Institutionalized

Is fucking Tyler writing these piano hooks?

>> No.54473304

>>54473270
>3 songs in
>wondering where songs are
>making an assessment

cmon son we're better than this

>> No.54473317

>>54472990
>>54472858
>>54472754
>>54472712
>>54471607
Pharrell produced it if that makes a difference, personally I love it.

>> No.54473327

>>54473270
congrats you hated it before you listened to it.

contrarians are funny sometimes

>> No.54473329

>>54472797
i'd say tyler is pretty odd
odd future that is XD

>> No.54473339

>>54473329
top banter

>> No.54473349

>There are people how view TPAB as racebait and white hate and not a tribute to 2pac a wonderful one at that

Simply put TPAB is what DBZ would have been like should it have ended at the Cell saga or having Gohan beat Buu at his Ultimate form and going on to defeat Kid Buu without Goku ever coming back at all

>> No.54473379

>>54472712
When did I say I didn't like the album? I love it and I've been listening to it on repeat since release.

All I'm saying is all I can hear is that weird ass voice in the background of Alright now

>> No.54473382

>>54473327
>>54473304
Institutionalized was the first track that wasn't patently awful. These Walls is the only track I've hit yet that is actually good.

Pardon me for being scared, his first two albums started strong. Wesley's Theory and For Free are trainwrecks.

>> No.54473399

>>54473270
good b8

>> No.54473404

>>54473382
Wesley's Theory is amazing just stop listening now and go cry to some childish gambino or something

>> No.54473418

>>54473270
see the difference between this and that shit tier Nas album (I'm a Nas fan but everything after It Was Written is shit) is that Kendrick actually has an audience, where Nas was no longer pop culturally relevant (and never once experienced the amount of popularity Kendrick has right now)

also that "minimalist / maximalist" description of hip-hop is usually how I spot faggots who started listening to hip-hop with MBDTf cause of "muh 10 pitchforks" and then heard Yeezus described as minimalist and run with that as a binary way to view hip-hop. Its a shit way to describe hip-hop.

>> No.54473420

>>54471165
but kendrick talks about his 9 inch donger in that song tho

>> No.54473428

G O A T

>> No.54473434

>>54473382
>Wesley's Theory
>King Kunta
>not good

>> No.54473451

>>54473285
No, there are no race issues. Pretending Mike Brown was Emmit Till does not make it so. He wasn't even Rodney King. The modern "race tensions" are born of blacks refusing to take responsibility for their own issues, and 99% of responsible blacks can tell you that, including Kendrick to an extent. He's just on guard now because Azealia Banks called him a coon, hence this album. In a way, this album is exactly what everybody thinks it isn't: Kendrick backtracking to appease his fanbase, which happens to include angry, ignorant negros.

>> No.54473461

>>54473434
real talk

>> No.54473463

>>54473270
>minimalist
>maximalist
Do you even know what that means?

>> No.54473471

>>54473257
>imaginary race tension

top kek if you don't think we aren't having a national dialogue about race, and haven't seen a bunch of shit actually happen recently. a black man was found hung to a tree in mississippi today dumbass.

aslo, GKMC was a nice story that provoked no thought unless you just started listening to rap. faggot.

>> No.54473487

>>54473451
lmao kendrick made this album because of what Banks said a few months ago? think about what ur sayin mate

>> No.54473512

>>54473451
all that straw man is making me dizzy man. please leave

>> No.54473513

>>54473404
Is a trick being played on me?

The rapping here is objectively not as on point as the first two albums, and lyrically speaking, the subject matter seems to be weaker so far. Frankly, the whole thing seems politically pandering, whereas Section 80 and GKMC featured original observations and a unique perspective, particularly section.80 which he evidently will never top.

I'm not understanding the high scores from mainstream outlets, fantano I get, but not the mainstream ones. For Free and u are complete with intros that border on being anti-songs, and remind me of some of the more pretentious and stupid moments on Goblin.

Honestly some of this Beefheart level ersatz. Maybe that's part of the charm, but I'm not hearing it yet.

>> No.54473522

>>54473471
>GKMC was a nice story that provoked no thought unless you just started listening to rap

seriously GKMC was really good but it was telling a story that most hip-hop is built off, people are trippin

>> No.54473544

>>54473471
>a black man was found hung to a tree in mississippi today
For what? The color of his bandana?

>> No.54473555

>>54473513
you've referred to Tyler twice already which has told me all I need to know lol. seriously just give up on this album and wait for earl to drop his emo shit

>> No.54473569

>>54473487
He changed the narrative, yes.

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>>54473569

>> No.54473600

>>54472369

>using egomaniac as a criticism of music

>> No.54473609

>>54473544
for being blacker than those who hanged him

the blacker the berry mang

>> No.54473637

>>54473513
>getting to a point of pretentiousness where you go full circle and think every second thing you hear is pretentious and it's not just you putting false expectations

god i certainly hope i don't become like you.

On a more relevant note, The rapping here is objectively MORE on point that GKMC. His flow has improved tremendously, his worldplay is still topnotch and his delivery is becoming absolutely jaw dropping. The beat's are masterfully produced and are catchy when they need to be given the context of the album. The social issues he tackles sheds a different light then anything I've ever heard on this subject on social media and the album ties up so well by the end.

>> No.54473641

>>54473463
no he's a faggot who only listens to rap and understands it through pitchfork.

>> No.54473643

>>54473382
> for free not an epic second track and doesnt give the album an amazing mood.

Wesley's theory is also obviously GOAT. King Kunta and institutionalized are amazing tracks what the fuck is wrong with you?

>> No.54473661

>>54473418
Get through the album once, fuckhead.

>> No.54473665

>>54473569
ok stop feeding the troll guys

>> No.54473689

fyi that guy who hanged himself in mississippi was a suicide. it was 500 yards from his house and there were no signs of struggle

>> No.54473701

>>54473471
I didn't know blacks being murdered was a national dialogue on race.

I'm not even who you're responding to and you're just so hideously wrong. Literally nothing is happening. If you think a black man hanging from a tree matters because the person who did it was a different race than him, it doesn't. Murder is murder. A black man and a white man killing someone is the same thing. It's not fucking 1920, there are real problems facing black people. Institutional problems that you won't hear about on the news because changing things would disadvantage the white elite instead of just anecdotal lower-middle class whites and hispanics.

The media is actively focusing only on anecdotal local news cases because they don't care about black people and they don't want actual change. Even then, they're actively steering it towards stories that turn out to not be true. Mike Brown and Trayvon got covered to fucking death despite being complete bullshit obviously from the beginning, yet Eric fucking Garner a man fucking choked to death on a corner on video, simply because he was poor and trying to make money gets what, a fucking 10th of the coverage?

There is no racial dialogue in America. There is a scam being peddled in the media, and there is institutional racism in policing, real estate, car sales, tax enforcement and many MANY other things. But these things won't be fixed, because these industries don't want to actively target blacks, they want to actively target all people who are poor or ignorant to the tax code, banking, and anything else they can screw people out of.

If I'm walking down the street and a black man walks by, I'm not going to be scared unless he looks like a criminal, and I'd be just as scared of a white criminal. Look criminal doesn't mean fucking baggy clothes, it means fucking face tattoos.

The vast majority of people don't give a fuck, the cops do because they're actively scared shitless of black people.

>> No.54473717

You know what's funny? People have been talking about the message of this album, about it being "big words" with "no meaning", yet not a single one of you dense fuckers has even been able to grasp what it's really about.

Kendrick is dealing with different forces of racism and is looking for a way to cope.

His mother straight up tells him to stop acting like a victim, it'll never get him anywhere. Kendrick is taking a hit at black people, maybe even more direct at black people in social media, constantly playing the victim card. He has actually been attacked by a few black celebrities, including Azelia Banks, for that.

He is also implying that, additionally to systematic, structural racism, there is another form of racism in America. He goes one step farther and holds up a mirror for his black people:

If you behave like a gangbanger, if you live like a thug, if you talk like a moron and generally behave ignorant, then you are perpetuating racial stereotypes. A lot of black people, famous black people that the youngsters look up to, act like that. He's adressing the faults of the black community.

There is an essay by Frantz Fanon titled Black Skin, White Masks. Not like anyone here would have read that, but if you had maybe you would understand where Kendrick is coming from.

There is a mental image that us whiteys have of 'the nigga from the projects' and instead of offering a counterimage, media, like BET for example, just fixate that image even more. Kendrick has gotten so much shit for saying exactly that, saying that black people are part of the reason why racism still exists today. It's a bold message, in the end this album is not about a religious epiphany or about a black uprising, it's about respecting each other and acting fucking sane. Those are even the last words, I have no idea how anyone could miss that, but I guess that's /mu/ for you.

>> No.54473740

>>54473701
jesus christ i could cut myself on this edge go back to shitposting about "muh libratarianaism and muh freedoms"

>> No.54473753

>>54473637
Everything you're saying isn't true.

You just agree with what he's saying.

You are biased. You didn't like his earlier albums as much most likely because they were too tied up in Christian dogma.

This shit IS SOCIAL MEDIA. Which is what disappoints me the most. I thought Kendrick was above this shit.

The album gets good later, but I really think he's missing the point of who is fucking black people over outside of his criticism of taxation and the music industry, which do indeed exist to pimp blacks.

>> No.54473759

>>54473740
>its the media! >:|

>> No.54473771

Kendrick is the G O A T already
All hail King Kendrick

>> No.54473776

>>54473661
i've listened to the whole album 10 times at least.

>> No.54473782

>>54473701
holy shit this is so short sighted.
>if you think a black man hanging from a tree matters
Are you serious? Can you not see hate crime when it's shoved in your stupid fucking face?

Blacks have just been dealt a bad hand by society and while it's not exactly their fault that they are in this situation(this is debatable), playing victim is not getting them anywhere and they should be working for the betterment of their culture. That's the message of the album and it's talking about racial/social issues that exist in america TODAY. The fact that you're even addressing it means it's there dumb ass.

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54473815

>>54470619
10/10 track

>> No.54473824

>>54473782
>Are you serious? Can you not see hate crime when it's shoved in your stupid fucking face?
it was clearly a suicide you dumb fuck

goddamn get the facts straight before you run your fucking mouth

god i'd love to meet you irl and beat the fuck out of you because you're dumb as fuck you cocky cunt

>> No.54473835
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54473835

>middle class white kids discussing the racial issues brought forth in an album about black people by a black person as if it's relevant to them and as if they have engaged in black culture beyond pretending to listen to hip-hop and rap for hipster cred

>> No.54473840

>>54470619
when the beat drops out and kendrick glides into his final verse

>whatdoyouhavetooffer

when the vocoder comes in for the last chorus shiiiit

>> No.54473856

>>54473740
Keep watching fox or msnbc and aligning yourself fictional political parties and a false left-right spectrum. You're missing the point. Grow up.

>>54473782
You didn't listen to a single fucking thing I said. I didn't say there wasn't a problem, I said no one is actually fucking addressing it.

And hate crimes are a social construct just like race. Murder is fucking awful no matter why you do it. And if you think words can be hate crimes you can fuck off back to Europe. The adults are talking here. If you think racism for anyone under the age of 40 is about anything but money, you don't know what you're talking about.

>>54473717
Yeah, this is what I get. I still think it's his worst album because the production is weaker and the topics more narrow, but at least he's trying to look at more than one side of this debate. Something /mu/ can't do.

>> No.54473866

>>54473835
THANK YOU

god everyone itt should fucking kill themselves (except this anon, you at least can see how fucking retarded this discussion is)

the problem is none of us have any perspective. it's by black people, for black people, about black issues. we cannot fully understand the dynamics behind the issues at hand and if you think otherwise you're dumb as fuck

>> No.54473868

>>54473824
>god i'd love to meet you irl and beat the fuck out of you because you're dumb as fuck you cocky cunt

not that guy but lol you straight up invalidated everything you had said previously right here buddy

>> No.54473878

>>54473856
production is miles better, fuck you gobbin about

>> No.54473890

>>54471206
You missed the point.
He's not aiming for it to be a hit song. it has a message behind it that people continually delude themselves in so many ways and it ensures they get fucking nowhere.
>>54473701
this. as long as there is perceived hatred or tension, it's easy for the elite to turn the masses against each other
>>54473717
10/10 post

too many people can't grasp the concepts he approaches and a such you'll get babbies that decry him consistently. such is life. even most of /pol/ would agree with what he's saying. He certainly isn't anti-white and is far more anti-governmental than anything.
and let's face it, if REAL violent riots actually do ever erupt, it isn't the middle class and poor white families they'll be directing their hate towards, that's for sure.

>> No.54473907

>>54473753
>Everything you're saying isn't true.
I probably know more than you to be honest. You sound like the biggest pitchfork drone ever.
Everything you've said so far you've basically pulled straight out of your ass. I highly doubt you even know what half the terms your spouting mean.

I can't tell if this is bait or not but you should really stop acting like you're Freud or some shit.

>You are biased. You didn't like his earlier albums as much most likely because they were too tied up in Christian dogma.
How the fuck can you even figure that? You're basically trying to undermine my opinion by making asinine claims.

I've listened to GKMC a LOT and section 80 quite a bit too. I respect the dude's talent and i always thought that he seems like the kind of person that would improve with every album. Hopefully he stays this way.

>> No.54473918

>>54473866
>>54473835
I bet you think men can't be feminists either.

Guess fucking what? Black people don't even go to rap shows. He's gonna be performing this shit in front of 80% white crowds who are going to sing along to every nigga just like they've been doing on his last 4 tours.

This is the most retarded white guilt shit I've read in a while. This shit effects every American, you don't have to have certain skin complexion to understand that the tax system is geared to hurt all people who are below middle class.

You people are so quick to accuse others of invoking a strawman and yet you accuse me of libertarianism when I want more taxation. Hilarious.

>> No.54473928

>>54473866
Black stuff is for black people only
White stuff is for everybody

>> No.54473932

>>54473868
>not that guy but lol you straight up invalidated everything you had said previously right here buddy

>in a thread about hip hop
>thinking threatening violence invalidates your arguments

every rapper threatens violence. If it doesn't invalidate Kendrick to do so, it doesn't invalidate anyone in a discussion about Kendrick

i don't even know why some of you listen to hip hop. what makes a suburban white kid beta want to listen to music he could never relate to in the slightest?

>> No.54473939

>>54473513
For Sale does not have an anti-song intro at all.
u isnt quite melodic, but its not an anti-song.
What is an anti-song by the way?
It feels like your main gripes with this album are really ideological in nature.

>> No.54473947

>>54473928
no you can listen to it but you can't run your mouth about it like your opinion has any relevance.

sit back and enjoy it you cuck

>> No.54473968

>>54473918
>Guess fucking what? Black people don't even go to rap shows. He's gonna be performing this shit in front of 80% white crowds who are going to sing along to every nigga just like they've been doing on his last 4 tours.

just because white people have the largest disposable incomes and waste money on shit they could never comprehend doesn't mean their opinion matters on a subject they could never relate to

>> No.54473971

>>54473928

Whites don't have a racial exclusive major issue to rap about, hence why white shit is for everybody.

I'm willing to be proven wrong if you can drop me a verse about the mundane nature of the sheltered suburbanite life, though.

>> No.54473974

>>54473932
>want to listen to music he could never relate to in the slightest?

you know art can be for more than relating to right?

you know it can help people see things from a perspective they otherwise wouldnt have?

>> No.54473988

So i makes a lot more sense now that I know it comes after a bunch of tracks of Kendrick tearing himself a part.

>>54473907
>I probably know more than you to be honest.
>stop acting like you're Freud or some shit

How far are you up your own ass. Your comment about Freud doesn't even make sense. Is that the only psychologist you've heard of?

>You're basically trying to undermine my opinion by making asinine claims.
From the guy who claims he has a fancy IQ and arbitrarily calls people pitchfork drones.

You're right, I'm making Ad Hominem attacks and you aren't. Carry on.

>> No.54473994

>>54473701
This is an insightful post, thank you.

>> No.54473996

>>54473971
check out some midwest emo

>> No.54474017

>>54473996
thats not bars tho bruh

>> No.54474067

>>54473971

MY DADDY NEVER LEFT HOME
SAVED UP FOR MY COLLEGE FUND
AND I SPENT IT ALL ON COKE AND CONES
GOT A STABLE JOB WITH A 401K
HE'LL RETIRE AND PLAY GOLF TILL HE'S 88
BUT NOT LIKE I DON'T KNOW BOUT THE STRUGGLE
CAUSE I SPEND MY TIME LISTENING TO KENDRICK RAP ABOUT THE HUSTLE

>> No.54474068

>>54473971
>>54473968
Stop projecting so hard. Just because you've never been out of the cul-de-sac doesn't mean only black people are poor. People of all races live in poverty. I'm sure you're about to tell me that blacks have the highest rate of poverty, which is again not fucking true, that'd be Native Americans a group you probably know nothing about the exploitation of because you think racism is white and black thing.

I'm white. I grew up firmly below the poverty line and on food stamps. I can relate to the fucking shit out of the shit Kendrick spits, particularly the stuff on Section80. Fuck off.

>> No.54474071

>>54473988
>arbitrarily calls people pitchfork drones.
The terminology you use is straight out of a pitchfork review, my friend. And you use it when it's not even applicable. You're a Pitchfork drone.

The Freud comment was because you seem to know so much about me. Why don't you tell me what i'm listening to now?

>How far are you up your own ass
>Listing a bunch of buzzwords and comparing with different artists to seem like you know what you're talking about.
I could ask you the same question.

>> No.54474087

>>54474068

top kek

I was fucking counting the posts until the cookie cutter "I'm white but I grew up ghetto and can relate"

>> No.54474088

>>54473513
Honestly your ears just aren't used to harmony that isn't at the level of 5 year old. Thanks to Kendrick's great ears and his ability to bring amazing musicians to the table, this album brings a level of harmonic presence that I've never heard in hip-hop before.

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kickass(dot)to/kendrick-lamar-to-pimp-a-butterfly-2015-mp3-320-kbps-t10374946.html#comment
there you go, poorfaggots. enjoy.

>> No.54474111

>>54473974
>you know art can be for more than relating to right?
that's literally the only thing it's for. just deciding whether you like something or not is indirectly relating to it.

>you know it can help people see things from a perspective they otherwise wouldnt have?
yeah but that perspective is way fucking different from someone (like kendrick) who has actually lived that shit. you can never understand what he's talking about because you have no frame of reference

>> No.54474131

>>54473782
I grew up in California, man, where blacks regularly kill each other over the color of their shoes. Go to L.A., grab yourself a map of stars homes, drive around Malibu and see all the pretty beach houses, then take a literally 20-30 minute detour over to south central and suddenly you've gone from lifestyles of the rich and famous to a third-world warzone shithole. You'll be amazed that such a place exists anywhere in America, much less in close proximity to such affluence.

Yes, racism exists. Yes, hate crimes occur. No, it isn't the biggest problem blacks face. No, I'm not saying it doesn't matter. I'm saying that blaming one hick is Mississippi for all the problems in black America is the reason places like south central will continue to exist, cops will continue to occupy them, and idiots beating up on store clerks will continue to get shot up when they charge at police officers.

>> No.54474136

>LIKE A CHEVY IN QUICKSAND

love you ab soul

>> No.54474144

>>54474068
>Stop projecting so hard. Just because you've never been out of the cul-de-sac doesn't mean only black people are poor.
i lived in selma alabama for 6 months (generally regarded as one of the most racist cities in the us if not the single most racist city) and i was the only white person i'd see all day long. I lived in poor neighborhoods

fuck off. you don't know what you're talking about. the only thing i learned those 6 months is that i could never comprehend the issues well enough to contribute to a discussion about those topics with an accurate portrayal of how things are. get the fuck off your high horse

>> No.54474149

>>54473974

>you know it can help people see things from a perspective they otherwise wouldnt have?


Yeah it makes me feel so fucking good when upper class white breads head to MoMA on Sundays to look at paintings drawn by dirt poor Vietnamese child savants then head to Starbucks and post long deconstructions about what they saw on their facebook pages.

>> No.54474163

>>54474094
amongst all this, just a top bloke making sure everyone can get the album

cheers mate, real good cunt

>> No.54474174

>>54473932
Thanks for telling us what we can and can't do.

Man, this white privilege thing is underrated. Seems like we need some non-white's permission to do anything.

>> No.54474175

>>54474144
Then why the fuck are you even in this thread? Just to condescend to the idiots trying to hash out their own views on an issue they deem important?
You cant imagine that your post would cause people to actually set aside their keyboards

>> No.54474192

>>54474149
whats the alternative? only the people experiencing these things should ever know they go on and never express them to a wider audience?

>> No.54474197

>>54474131
I agree with all of this. I'm just not going to pretend like Kendrick is talking about "imaginary racial tension" because what he says on TPAB is pretty relevant to what most blacks think about. And come to think of it, you sum it up pretty well.

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>mfw cacs

>> No.54474205

>>54473717
People didn't get this? it's pretty fucking clear lol

also,
>us whiteys
ain't white, bro

>> No.54474206

>>54473968
White people can relate to it. Just swap the words "white" and "black" and bam, instantly relatable.

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>>54474163
no worries cunt, never dog your mates.

>> No.54474230

What happened to the discussion

>> No.54474233

>>54474215
That pic made me crack up

>> No.54474236

>>54474088
Nah. The album got much much better as it went on, but those first few tracks are still pretty fucking weak musically. The content makes a lot more sense as an entire piece too than just the first few tracks.

Apparently /mu/ just thinks it's about muh hands up don't shoot though. Some people just can't into multi-faceted issues.

>>54474087
Throw your rich liberal platitudes at me all you want. You can pretend I don't exist because it's easy for you behind your Ivory Tower. And before you call me a white trash conservative, I'm a democrat, you're just way too delusional and distracting for me to put up with.

>>54474144
>poor people don't understand why they're poor
fucking imagine that man, wonder why they're still poor? Protip: lack of opportunities is part of it, but growing division of wealth in all races is the real problem.

I'll tell you the same shit I always have to tell /pol/. I never said I was from the hood. I said I was poor. I have lived in the hood, but I've also lived in rural white areas, and guess what

THEY'RE EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME

everyone speaks broken english, does crack/meth, doesn't give a fuck about their kids because their parents didn't give a fuck about them. Underage girls get knocked up by men well into their 20s and 30s, in black areas the police don't even investigate, in the white areas they cover it up to "keep the family together".

Poor people do stupid fucked up shit because they're ignorant and have had a lack of opportunities. The only way to fix this is to lift these people out of poverty through education. The skin color doesn't matter. One white man killing one black man sucks, but you have to understand that it ISN'T HURTING PEOPLE AS A WHOLE, POVERTY IS.

>> No.54474237

>>54474230
people with irrelevant opinions and an inflated sense of importance

>> No.54474298

>>54473257
>TPAB was just Kendrick jumping on the imaginary race tension bandwagon so he could have something to sing about
I don't see anything wrong with this.

He does it in such a unique and though provoking way that even if this was the case, I wouldn't mind at all because he's brought up a very good perspective on this for the progression of black culture.

And musically, he did it extremely well with some incredible technical ability and some very creative beats.

>> No.54474308

>>54474197
It's not imaginary racial tension.

It's media manufactured racial tension, painted over the black/police tension that has existed for 40 years+ and was even worse before that.

I'm just a dumbass white guy on the internet, but my theory is that white people simply weren't relating to the black/police conflict because they viewed it as not effecting them. If you put it in these clothes, you can distract stupid rich whites with it too.

>> No.54474331

>>54474308

Whites relate to it not because it matters to them, but because by pretending to emphasize they can feel good about their daily act of faux altruism.

>> No.54474333

>>54474236
>The only way to fix this is to lift these people out of poverty through education.

this is 100% what i believe.

the problem is that there is such a stigma in the media against academia. it's absolutely in the black community ("uncle tom," "sell out," etc.) but the attitude is definitely in lower class white communities, and it's rising. so that now, middle class white kids, whose parents probably weren't perfect but worked hard for a good life, are calling school fucking wack. they're calling reading fucking wack. they're calling science fucking wack. i'd hate to blame it all on screech from saved by the bell, but that really seems to be the case. i think this album is a testament to intellectualism and education. not just for blacks but for all races.

>> No.54474364

>>54474308
I really don't see what you're getting at.

TPAB has virtually nothing to do with white folks. The entire thing was about blacks uniting and actually working together for the betterment of their culture. If you're talking about the tracks where he goes on about how society and racial issues have put him in a bad place, he's basically in a persona of a younger-dumber version of himself(or someone else).

>> No.54474366

>The ghost of 2pac told me to kill all white people but I'm too drunk and depressed please help me kill all the white people!

>> No.54474383

>>54474333
Truth.

The Tupac interview is fucking great. Tupac may have not been the worlds greatest rapper, but he was on point intellectually, especially early in his career.

>>54474331
I think a lot of people in this thread who'd like to think they're socially just and liberal are racists themselves. You shouldn't view this kind of shit as even separate groups. Black people are your brothers, your fellow human beings, people you share like 99% DNA similarity with no matter how different you look or sound. Whites and Blacks can listen to and interpret whatever albums they want. You don't have to have experienced something to relate to it, understand it maybe, but Kendrick himself relates to biblical figures constantly despite never setting foot in Israel.

And know I don't mean "colorblindness" you have to understand that these constructs still affect people, but if you let them control how you feel about people you're part of the problem.

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>>54474366
come at us kendrick

>> No.54474408

>>54474333

That's one of the problems. Then there's shit like state funding for education and youth programs etc. I don't want to sound like a radical liberal shithead, but a lot of this can be filtered straight down to the greed of the few in high positions who'd rather pocket some extra coin than expend it to assist those who in more desperate situations. The irony is when these people have kids and those kids grow up sheltered and middle class, start listening to rap and shit through p4k and tumblr pretending to identify with the issues presented in the music.

>> No.54474411

>>54474364
Listen to it a couple more times.

Kendrick hasn't been dumb since he started rapping under his real name. Find me some magical tweet where he calls himself immature and ignorant for writing Fuck Your Ethnicity. You can't because it doesn't exist. His views didn't change, the media environment he's releasing albums into changed.

>> No.54474424

>>54474308
>my theory is that white people simply weren't relating to the black/police conflict because they viewed it as not effecting them
The way I see it is pigs will be pigs will be pigs. I'm white. You think I don't worry about police? You think I haven't been harassed by police? You think I'm not extremely nervous every time I get pulled over? Even when I'm not breaking the law?

I've been pulled over and accused of being on speed, despite having never done speed in my life. That's a very scary situation, because I don't know what his motivation is for making such a baseless accusation, other than to justified whatever unlawful thing he might be planning to do to me.

Then Obama complaining that security followed him around in a department store, as if I have never been followed by security in a department store. Or so many black people complaining that they failed a job interview conducted by a white person, as if I have gotten every single job I ever interviewed for.

If you're black, you can attribute every single thing in life that doesn't go your way to racism without realizing the same exact things would have probably happened if they were white. Hence, a lot of the race problems they think they have are simply imaginary.

>> No.54474437

>>54474408
So do you think that this generation of white rich people raised on hip hop will change the system at all once they have assumed power?

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>>54474393
just....wait...i gotta drank some more.....this song is not for you....stop listening.....p...please? fuck off white people I don't even like y'all

>> No.54474444

>>54474408
>radical liberal shithead

No.

The most important thing that you can ever realize is that there are some things conservatives are right about and some things liberals are right about, and that the parties are designed to not split people on actual current day issues that matter, but wedge issues that hit at people's emotional centers and the way they were raised.

I envision a day when the skeptical liberals and conservatives unite, because at this point they have more in common than these shithead pro-censorship pro-corporate pro-government MRA and SJW types on the right AND left that just need to fuck already and get it over with.

>> No.54474463

>>54474383
Man I haven't seen this much truth on 4chan of all places.
Nice to see a human being, keep being awesome, you're 100% right.

>> No.54474469

>>54474437

lol, fuck no. you always hear about college students complaining about the evil that's cadbury conscripting lil african kids to work cocoa fields, then they fling their ass straight to starbucks and ask for a cap with extra choc.

people love to complain about social issues because it makes them feel like they're a good person, but when it comes to taking action that's just a little too much and it's 'best left to someone else more capable'.

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>>54474444
Quads never fucking lie

>> No.54474484

>>54474333
I have an EECS degree from Berkeley. I consider it a pretty good education. I think it's been good for my career prospects. However, I don't think a college degree is necessary for everybody. For many people, I believe it's a waste of time and money, i.e. my brother has a graphic design degree from a no-name private art school, 10x the debt, half the salary, a job that he probably could have gotten otherwise, etc.

>> No.54474500

>>54474411
I'm not really sure what you're saying here either. I was talking about Kendrick's character portrayal in the songs he makes. He doesn't actually think that whites, society hates him in he song Blacker the Berry, for example. He's more or less talking about how black people(or himself/people like him) need to stop victimizing themselves and actually try to do something productive in their lives.

I just believe that the album has nothing to do with white people. It's about black culture.

>> No.54474501

>>54474424
You say that but you sound like a paranoiac yourself

>> No.54474503

What is it that black people of today go through? Fucking tell me.

White people go through shit too man damn and it goes unnoticed and nobody gives a shit but let something happen to a black person and its a national fucking story and then I have to fear for my fucking life every single damn time because i'm not living in some rich fucking house on the hill. I live in Baltimore, MD where I mind my damn business and get often scrutinized by black teens and even adults for being white or automatically get called racist. Its fucking annoying.

Black people of today don't know the fucking struggle like the previous generations of black people went through. Truth be told we're all in a fucking mess of a world. So shut the fuck up.

Thanks to a lot of this "white guilt" blacks get a free pass with A LOT of shit. Stop bitching, you have no pain and struggle. You aren't your ancestors and you were never slaves picking cotton. You were born in the most easiest generation to become succssful in. If you feel so mistreated it is because YOU fucked up. Don't fucking tell me what I can and can not listen to because the color of my skin. Fuck off.

Especially the black people here on fucking 4chan. Shut your middleclass silver spoonfed asses up.

>> No.54474510

>>54474469
Yeah. The people who you tell about women having their genitals mutilated in African Muslim countries, and they want to differ with "that's an African thing, not a religious thing" or "that's a religious thing, not an African thing" depending on which side they're on before dropping into some awful tirade about something that happened to an American white woman, you know, the second most privileged group of people in the world who have it so bad.

>> No.54474518

>>54474500
oh. I'm sorry. Didn't catch what you were saying exactly. My bad. We agree then.

I still think monetary problems are another essential part of Kendrick's music though.

>> No.54474523

>>54474437
How is a generation of white rich people raised on hip hop going to convince blacks to stop killing each other over Jordans?

There is no "system."

>> No.54474536

ITT: wiggers who think they have real opinions

lel

>> No.54474537

>>54474503
>baiting this hard

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>>54474383
so much fucking truth in one post.

Tupac in that interview was kind of dumb though, black people uprising against white people? I mean.....uhhh....good luck with that, don't think it's gonna work out very well for you guys.

>> No.54474546

>>54474424
How are they imaginary issues if they are ACTUALLY happening?
There ARE people who will hire a white person over a black person, there ARE areas where black people are followed way more than white people in stores.
These are shitty things to happen to any decent person. The point is that those shitty things seem to happen disproportionately to black people.
If you get followed in a store, some guy saw you as a young person who made them suspicious for some reason. Maybe it was the way you dressed, or the way you wear your hair, or some other reason.
When it happens to a black person, it may very well be for the same reason as you, and its not automatically due to race, but one of the possible reasons for the suspicion is the color of their skin. As a white person, I dont really know what that feels like.

>> No.54474550

>>54474503
>Maryland

White Guilt leads to racism because it misidentifies the problem.

I live in Texas and I've seen none of what you're describing. I've never been called racist or called a black person racist. It's not because blacks "know their place here" or some stupid stereotyped shit like that, people just fucking get along because they have to live next to each other.

People care about these cop shootings here too, but it's not something people end friendships over. That's crazy.

>> No.54474551

>>54474503

What the fuck do white people go through that's exclusive to them? Nobody's saying white people are completely free of issues, but how many of these fucking issues occur because you're white? And don't give me shit like oh I walked through this bad neighborhood once and a black guy called me a cac.

>> No.54474561

the discussion this album is spawning is proof that this album is better than GKMC

>> No.54474562

Not joking H.O.C is still his best song
>inb4 bunch of bandwagoners that haven't even heard OD but think they have an opinion on Kendrick

>> No.54474579

>>54474551
>affirmative action stole my jerb >:|

>> No.54474582

>>54474523

Follow the breadcrumbs and ask yourself why they're blasting themselves with lead over Jordans. And don't tell me it's because that it's because they have a genetic propensity to kill for Nikes.

>> No.54474588

>>54474523
Well if they are concious and even sympathetic to the issues in a way the current ruling generation is not, then perhaps the policies in the government might provide fairer education funding to low income areas.

>> No.54474590

>>54474546
>As a white person, I dont really know what that feels like.
You mean as a white person who has never left America. There are plenty of places in the world where white people aren't the majority and don't make up the power structure. I'm in one now.

>> No.54474596

>>54474562
whack track

>guys I dont smoke!!

>> No.54474601

>>54474596
>I only pay attention to hooks
Why are you discussing hip hop?

>> No.54474604

>>54474590
>You mean as a white person who has never left America

Yes, I suppose that is important to add. I often get trapped in a little bubble

>> No.54474607

>>54474601
hooks are all that matter you fucking idiot

>> No.54474608

>>54474444
This. i'm fucking tired of loosely similar ideologies being group as "left" and "right".
There are difference stances and factions between the lines. One is not another.

>> No.54474611

>>54474551
>And don't give me shit like oh I walked through this bad neighborhood once and a black guy called me a cac.
Why not? You don't think there are white people who have lived in black communities? You don't think it's hard for white people in that situation?

>> No.54474622

>>54474582
I don't know. Enlighten me.

>inb4 whitey

>> No.54474630

>>54474607
Oh my fucking god
Tell me your top 5 hip hop albums

>> No.54474633

>>54474540
I'm going to bed, but you gotta seek out more old Tupac interviews. Before he got huge, he was very articulate, off-base sometimes, but he started doing shit when he was still a teenager. He's still more on point than most famous teenagers white or black about class issues though, and he's was well read up on art too.

Very eclectic guy, started out doing stuff like rap covers of Minnie the Moocher. He's super overrated as a rapper, not as a person though.

>>54474546
>>54474503
You're both missing the point. There are no unique white or black issues. Different shit happens to people for different reasons. Different causes, same outcome, which is dickheaded cops and security enforcing a power system that disadvantages those who don't already have money.

Again. Stop looking at Trayvon. Stop looking at Brown. We don't know the full story in either case. Look at Garner, a man simply trying to sell cigarettes to make money in a place that places ridiculous taxes on cigarettes that creates a black market someone is going to fill. Because he was poor, because he was doing something slightly illegal, a police officer became so enraged that he put him in an illegal hold that killed him. that's it.

>> No.54474636

>>54474611
it is hard. if you look at who's calling who racial slurs everyone equally shitty. the thing is the systemic racism, that white kid has a much higher chance of climbing classes

>> No.54474641

>Yfw listening to Kendrick foretell his life and career on the EP and rapping about not having shit or having a right flow and then looking at where he is at now.

Its fucking amazing actually, he really did everything he said he would.

>My plan b is to win your hearts before I win a grammy

>> No.54474647

>>54474424
But studies confirm the shit you're talking about (profiling) is more likely to happen to black people. And there's good empirical proof white people are more inclined to offer favors to other white people than to blacks. Check out the studies that have been done on white and black people getting free bus rides at different rates. You're just asserting this is all in the heads of black people so you can feel superior. Black people are just whining and you don't? Come on dude.

>> No.54474648

>>54474611

That's an issue pervasive to being a minority in the environment, not because you're 'white'. Granted you could say the same applies to blacks in America, but when the pedigree of their issues goes back far enough such that blacks of all classes are universally affected, then that becomes a racial issue. Being white in a black community is not a racial issue that affects all whites, it's an issue that affects you because you're a white person in a black community.

>> No.54474650

>>54474540
It was not aimed towards whites, but rather the Elite that manipulate and extort the middle class and poor, black or not.

>> No.54474656

>>54474630
Childish Gambino - Because The Internet
Tyler the Creator - Wolf
Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp a Butterfly
Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Run The Jewels - Run The Jewels 2

>> No.54474658

>>54474641
>>My plan b is to win your hearts before I win a grammy
You succeeded K-Dot. In what a way.

>> No.54474666

>>54474656
this has to be a troll

>> No.54474670

>>54474611
No it sucks and feels shitty. Its as bad as a white guy saying nigger. But its a pretty low magnitude of racism.

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>>54474656
You almost got me my man.
Listen to some more hip hop.

>> No.54474683

>>54474666
Some people just come to /mu/ for the ego boost.

>> No.54474687

>>54474588
Concretely, how will that help? Blacks have access to schools. Their culture simply doesn't value education.

A lot of Asian Americans will lie about their address or rent a broom closet in a good district to get their kids into the best public schools. They don't sit around waiting for Uncle Sam to hit up Chinatown.

>> No.54474689

>>54474683
some come for the banter

>> No.54474700

If he keeps this up he's gonna get himself killed for being 2pac Jr and pissing black people off. All it takes is one crazed up nigga to kill a nigga

>> No.54474705

>>54474687
people shouldnt have to game the system to make sure their children have a good start to life

>> No.54474707

>>54474689
>Come for the memes, stay for the banter.
Is the new
>come for the music, stay for the feels

>> No.54474709

>>54474700
he's probably gone too far if that's the case

he should've just kept making shit like drank, shit that everyone can relate to

>> No.54474720

>>54474700
He's been in that constant risk ever since he started, he straight out talks shit about pyrus and crips in his EP.

>> No.54474733

>>54474707
I miss the feels

>tfw no feels

>> No.54474734

>>54474687
>>54474588
I'm not black. Poor schools universally suck. Look up how schools are funded and you'll see why.

The majority of generations go through this de-being-pissed-off period around when they turn 30 because by that point they've responded to societal pressures and had children. They stop caring about the world or even America and become afraid of any change to the status quo.

The countries where this doesn't happen? Countries with notably low birth rates like Japan and Russia, but they have a different set of problems, because apparently not having kids to work jobs fucks up an economy too.

>>54474700
>all it takes is for one nigga to kill a nigga
Disregard all racial connotations and that's a true as fuck statement.

>> No.54474739

>>54474720
>crips
i think the whole bloods/crips thing is overblown at this point. schoolboy q is a crip, the rest of TDE is bloods. they seem to make it work

>> No.54474740

>>54474700
When is the last time a big named rapped people actaully cared about died? While they were still young.

Kendrick dying would be the ripple that would change the whole rap game. For better or worse I have no idea

>> No.54474749

good kek lel city

>> No.54474752

>>54474739
those guys arent the hardout guys that take it 100% serious though, otherwise they would have never left banging to get into music

>> No.54474754

>>54474734
Nigga I am nigga

>> No.54474755

>>54474503
Well you seem pretty mad about this, but the facts are clear. Black people have had it pretty shitty. obviously not as shitty as before, but still. Living in the ghetto for half your life, your school's education system is absolute trash and the culture you live in constantly leading you to be a trainwreck of a human being. They don't exactly have it easy. That being said, I do believe sitting around and bitching about it 24/7 and blaming other races(which is racist within itself) and society isn't fucking helping at all. It's what people do when they're in shitty situations. Sit back and cry about their problems like bitches.

>> No.54474757

>>54474739
It is not overblown when you grow up in compton and make a career about talking shit about them

>> No.54474763

>>54474739
>>54474720
Crips and bloods truce from time to time.

And as he's always said bumping pirus and crips have always fucked with him.

Thing is, in a world where latin america controls the drug game, they got bigger problems than each other.

>> No.54474767

>>54474633
I know that there are no unique black/white issues. Similar injustices are done to the whole rainbow.

And lets be real here. That cop wasn't angry because he was selling cigarettes. He locked him up because some uppity jiggaboo didnt shit himself and submit immediately to arrest. So he had the power and opportunity to teach him a lesson, and ended up murdering him.
Even this isnt a solely black issue, its because our police are trained like fucking soldiers and treat every encounter with civilians like it could be their last.
Would you say that it doesnt matter if that cop's rage was motivated at all by racism?
I agree with you that the heart of alot of the issues is economic in nature.

>> No.54474770

Everybody loves and respects Kendrick too damn much. Which is EXACTLY why he is likely to die by murder. He won't even see it coming

>> No.54474777

>>54474622

>cut state funding etc.
>comply to the wishes of the elite and allow the rich to get richer (.e.g branch scenario 1, rich people have access to top financial planners and accountants, employ creative accounting, dodge out on taxes effectively causing these cuts to state funding down the line --> branch scenario 2. along with rich dodging out of taxes, state and federal heads with investments in military contracts vote to funnel the money towards military funding, essentially pocketing the money that should be heading to the states to create proper social infrastructure)
>this all mixes together and fucks over the people and institutions that actually needed the money and funds, creating a context where it's easier to gangbang to make a living than to stay in school
>blacks kill each other for jordans
>"well I guess blacks are just fucking scum"

of course this doesn't preclude blacks from being actual scum, but the fault of the child lies in the parent. tl;dr the greed of the few fuck the many in the ass.

>> No.54474786

>>54474770
he's doing a signing in compton today :0

>> No.54474788

>>54474770
good. I hope he dies so he becomes a martyr and people will take the shit he says even more seriously and actually fucking do something about it.

>> No.54474793

>>54474647
Stop thinking about it in a general sense and think about it concretely. The example I used about Obama in the department store, this is what he came up with while he was put on the spot to comment about Trayvon, and needed an example to demonstrate the pervasiveness of racial tension in America. He sat there at his desk for hours if not days preparing a speech and decided "oh, I'll mention that time I was in a store and guy whose fucking job it is to watch people watched me."

That's it? Something that has happened to me, a white guy, several fucking times? If that's the best you can come up with to highlight an issue, there is no fucking issue.

>> No.54474795

>>54474770
or maybe YOU won't see it coming

DUCK NIGGA

>> No.54474796

>>54474788

yeah cause when pac died people actually did shit right

>> No.54474805

>>54474767
It would if it was racial, but I don't think it is.

New York is notorious for fucking with these cigarette guys because the cigarette guys are master law skirters who only carry enough to not get busted for very long. So these cops angrily arrest the same guys day after day and they get out and sell more cigs because, again there's a market. The cops fucking hate it and hate them, as does the city government who claims to hate tobacco but profits immensely from it, hence hassling people committing non-violent trivial crimes that cops in other areas would tell people to "Move along" "Don't let me catch you out here again" or "Don't loiter" for doing.

>> No.54474808

>>54474788
>I hope he dies

bruh

can you imagine if kendrick gets killed by a white cop

as drake said "nothing was the same"

>> No.54474817

>>54470619
This song was stuck in my head all day and now it's back, thanks a lot OP

>> No.54474820

>>54474788
You don't know how cruel the world is do you?

>> No.54474828

>>54474796
oh...

JK STAY ALIVE KENDRICK!

>> No.54474843

>>54474808
I'd call in sick for a week if I were a cop after that.

>> No.54474851

>>54474734
>Poor schools universally suck. Look up how schools are funded and you'll see why

I know this, I went to a poor NH school district. Not as poor as some inner city places though.

I suppose all we can do is contribute all we can individually to keep legislation moving toward a better and efficient structure.

Just because its impossible doesn't mean we shouldn't try to reduce wealth disparity.

>> No.54474855

>>54474777
Toss in some "Corporations are people and can give any politician any amount of money they want to in agreement for preferential treatment in regulation" and you'll find that anti-trust laws haven't been enforced since the 70s.

Elections are bought. Democrats are in a cabal with bankers, Republicans with oil, and those are just their 2 biggest partners. Likewise, both parties fucking love the military, the democrats just act like they don't when they aren't in office. We haven't had an anti-war democrat in since Carter.

>> No.54474867

>>54474843
honestly

like what if kendricks setting up this whole un-hateable persona so he can go out and provoke a white cop and get shot

and no one would ever believe kendrick would provoke the shooting

bruh

kendrick dont please

>> No.54474870

>>54474808
It would finally start this race war thats been teased for so damn long. Black people are tame as fuck compared to the 80's and 90's big part of that is because of social media but a white cop killing someone like Kendrick especially while he is on godmode status would break the fucking lock off.

>> No.54474876

>>54474855

I'm just going to cut to the finishing line and conclude with "capitalism".

>> No.54474893

>>54474867
kendrick is the sacrificial lamb in a hip hop conspiracy orchestrated by the jews and jay z

>> No.54474895

>>54474867
Nah man, Kendrick's smart. He wouldn't throw his life away like that. he's gonna keep preaching his message until it doesn't fall on deaf ears, yeah, but he wouldn't go and get himself killed to get people to listen.

>> No.54474897

>>54470619
PUTO WANNA SQUABBLE WIT MI BARRIO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFiy3JzuQOI

>> No.54474905

>>54474895
Im smart too. That why I listen to Neutral Milk Hotel

>> No.54474912
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54474912

>>54474870
>tfw arab and don't have to be a part of the race war

So america WILL kill itself from the inside out and we will have our glorious jihad.

>> No.54474913

>>54474755
This is the most condescending form of liberal "support".
Not all black people are from the slums
Not all black people have it shitty.
Not all black people sit around and "bitch"

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54474915

>tfw tbab will be later considered the most important rap album of the 10's

>> No.54474917

>>54474705
Maybe they shouldn't. Asians do. Let's talk about Asians for a minute.

Everybody likes to cite that blacks make up 6% of the American population but 50% of the prison population and attribute it to "systematic racism."

Why it is that Asians make up LESS than 6% of the population and MORE than 50% of the university population? Anti-systematic racism? Systematic anti-racism?

Black people were already voting when America was putting Asians in internment camps. How are they succeeding and excelling in America without even adapting to American culture?

It's because one culture values education and modest success, while the other values weed, bling, rims, gats, and gats as a means to achieve weed, bling, rims and more gats.

>> No.54474919

>>54474895
He loves himself too much for that.
He carries the deaths of many people that wanted to keep it honest, that's what he promised to them before they died
He's not going to make himself get killed over politics
I hope so at least.

>> No.54474927

>>54474893
>and I want everyone to see my autopsy
>so you can see exactly where the government has shot me
>no conspiracy my fate is inevitable
>they play musical chairs once im on the pedestal

>> No.54474931

>>54474913
No fucking shit Sherlock.

My point still stands.

>> No.54474932

>>54474915
I'm not even a big fan of the album but I agree. There's some shit on this album that'll have people talking for years. It's definitely an important landmark in hip-hop, like Illmatic or Low End Theory.

>> No.54474948

>>54474915
amine

>> No.54474956

N E G U S

E

G

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>> No.54474959

>>54474913
>condescending form of liberal "support".

I'm sorry i forgot you'd rather just sit on your lazy ass and cry about being oppressed instead of doing something about it.

>> No.54474962

>>54474805
I have never lived in New York, so I didnt really know that. That adds a whole new dimension to the act. But the outcry was about his death yes, but more about the justice system's complete failure.
>>54474893
this needs to be a banner

>> No.54474971

>>54474777
>this all mixes together and fucks over the people and institutions that actually needed the money and funds, creating a context where it's easier to gangbang to make a living than to stay in school
You literally don't know shit about gangbanging lol.

>> No.54474991

I'm listening to The Heart part 3 and he just said he can't change shit from a coffin
He's not going to get himself killed
He's just gonna keep going hard as fuck

>> No.54475002

>>54474917
>anti-racism
Its all just racism now dad, anyone can play!

>> No.54475012

I really like Snoop's feature. The raspy nature of his voice fit the song so well.

>> No.54475013

>>54474917

Asian here. Not true. Most of those university asians are like second gen. Their parents and grandpaps weren't even in America when asians were being dumped in camps, they were in their homeland with the cultural safety of being a majority race. As a new immigrants, asians as a minority in America are exempt from the historically based stigma that blacks are weighted against. When they came over, they had money, whether it was a lot or little it was still money. And if you want to see the struggles of the asians that didn't make it, take a look at some of the projects in L.A.

>> No.54475032

>>54475013
danny?

>> No.54475035

Has he done any good interviews recently since the album released

>> No.54475057

>>54475035
none at all pal

>> No.54475078

>>54475032

No.

>> No.54475084

>>54474647

Black people are more racist towards whites than whites are towards blacks. As a white person, you're more likely to have a black person commit a violent crime against you than the other way around. Everyone wants to pretend that every black in prison is in there for selling dime bags but let's be serious here.

As far as police profiling, that's primarily a class issue. Police are sent to areas with a lot of drugs and violent crime, which kind of makes sense, but it definitely creates an issue of the poor being imprisoned unproportionally compared to crimes committed. Racial profiling is also applied to white kids in the ghetto, who are immediately presumed to be buying drugs... because a lot of the time, they are. I can't agree with policing for profits but, when you do that immoral shit, you do what you need to. Those motivations are monetarily driven, not race driven.

Now, if we just ended the drug war and stopped throwing people in prison for nonviolent crime, maybe we'd get somewhere OVER TIME. It's just going to be hard for black people to cope with the fact that a lot of their issues are self-inflicted. They're unreasonably violent compared to whites even though it's easier for them to go to college and get a job if they just put an ounce of effort into it. The law is racist in their favor and it's not white people's fault that they don't take advantage of it. I'm all for black people rising up, becoming more educated, etc. I just wish they would recognize that it's the ignorant niggers that they support nonstop that really hold them down. Stop rioting every time an idiot gets himself shot by the cops/stop celebrating in the streets every time a black man beats a criminal charge for a crime we all know they committed. Stop viewing the world as "us vs. them" and maybe you'll see that the majority of whites don't care what race you are... but we're fucking scared because you act fucking crazy.

>> No.54475093

>>54475013
Doesn't matter whether their grandparents were in internment camps. What matters is they excel in a country with a historical record of oppressing their race.

>> No.54475124

>>54475093
A big difference I think is that Asian-american culture was not formed from hundreds of years of slavery by white people. Asian immigrants have been treated as free men from day 1.

>> No.54475143

>>54475093

Yeah nah, don't even pretend asians have suffered the same magnitude of oppression that blacks have in America. Being confused for Japs during WW2 doesn't even compare. Not to mention Asians have had a lifeline via their home country, countries with stable systems relative to Africa. Even China at it's worst during the Cultural Rev. is nothing compared to the regions of Africa that American-Blacks hailed from, which is genuinely nothing. I'm asian and I'm not going to pretend my race has been oppressed for anything beyond the typical racist stereotype, which if anything is preferable to the stereotype of blacks. I'd rather be called a rice-gobbling mathematician than a rapist thief.

>> No.54475163

>>54475013
>>54475093
>>54475093
By the way, I know this guy's niece.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Matsui

He WAS in an internment camp. He wasn't her great great great grandfather. He was her fucking uncle. How many black people in America can say their first uncle was a slave?

He did pretty okay for himself. Has a courthouse named after him and everything. She's doing well too. Went to Stanford and makes a pretty good living as a painter.

Neither of them made Kendrick-level millions though, so I guess they don't get to bitch about oppression.

>> No.54475177

>>54475124

Yeah, being treated like a peasant with no rights is a real good time. It was such a fun time that they risked their lives to escape to the United States just because YOLO. It's not like there were free blacks during every period of the United States existence or that there were slaves of other races or anything. Nah, every black person is descended from slaves that were all mistreated horribly and their lifespans were significantly shorter than their counterparts in Africa, who in no way sold them out. It's not like slavery still exists in Mauritania. It's not like there were white slaves in America. It's not like almost everyone on the planet is a descendant from a slave.

>> No.54475201

>>54475163

His family had ONE period of 'oppression', and that was during World War 2. It didn't last a generation, whereas blacks have had GENERATIONS of that shit. You can't fucking compare. Was it atrocious on both accounts? Yeah. But the oppression of asians, which were mostly Japanese-Americans in this case, is a fucking speck compared to African-Americans. Not to mention the HUGE reparations the American government paid after the war ended.

>> No.54475203

>>54475177
You're a pisspants crybaby. It's like I'm literally arguing with a crying baby. Look. I think we both can agree that niggers and chinamen are both inferior to whites.

Yes, slavery happened. Yes, it was wrong to enslave whites. But we keep and use horses for work, is it really any different from housing and working a negro?

>> No.54475212

>>54475201
Yeah, 150 years ago. Before automobiles, elevators, internet, you know, any semblance to the modern world.

>> No.54475214

>>54475163
Internment camps were not slave camps. they were prisoners, not slaves.

>> No.54475215

I can understand not liking the album, but resorting to racism? What the fuck, /mu/?

>> No.54475225

>>54475214
Didn't say they were. Doesn't make slavery any more recent.

>> No.54475233

>>54473029
they made the track a day before the show
I doubt there is one

>> No.54475253

>>54475215
its sort of the point of the album in a way, to get the dialogue flowing

>> No.54475256

>>54475212
>>54475212
You havent addressed any of his other points. A big one is the fact that Asian americans have always had pretty strong ties to their home countries and didn't have to build a culture from scratch.

>> No.54475262

>>54475201
You gotta ask yourself sometimes, is experiencing success totally exclusive to those that aren't oppressed? No. So that's kind of where the argument changes over to "Yeah I get slavery was 400 years ago, you gonna wait another 400 years before you get over it or what?" That's the point.

>> No.54475273

>>54475201

You're an ass for believing that you can immediately deduce how oppressed someone's familial history is based on their race. In the end, though, who gives a fuck if someone's relative was enslaved 150 years ago? There are people enslaved today. There are people who are poor in third world, wartorn shitholes with no way out. The Chinese, the Irish, and Eastern European immigrants all came to this country after slavery ended and faced persecution right through WW2. They all rose up, Hispanics are rising up at amazing rates... Slavery is no excuse for blacks. It was horrible but it's not like every white person made money off that shit. Most of us had ancestors that were barely making ends meet, that were facing tragedy of comparable basis.

>> No.54475277

>>54475262

The problem here is when you're completely ignoring the magnitude of the oppression in question. I'm not saying the oppressed can't be successful, I could list any successful black dude just as you've done for asians. All I'm saying is, the guy who steps into the bigger shit has to scrape harder.

>> No.54475295

>>54475256
How does that address my point, which is the fact that Asians excel in a "systematically racist" country where blacks don't, despite there being more blacks in the population and power structure, including a black head of state.

How does a successful Asian's family ties to Hunan, China factor into that whatsoever?

>> No.54475308

>>54475273
This, this, this, and a little bit of this.

>> No.54475319

>>54475277
I'm not the other dude, that was actually my first post in this thread. And I'm sure we can all agree that a person in the ghetto who grows up with urban influences has arguably the worst time getting out, but I'm tired of niggas accepting fate versus accepting challenge. Slavery hasn't existed for decades in America, Racism isn't super prevalent when you have a black president and other factors (I guess the new word is classism?) are much larger contributors, and it's not impossible to stop fucking yourself over. I'm not ignoring the multitude, I'm putting it in it's place. It's nothing that is insurmountable, that should always be kept in mind.

>> No.54475325

>>54475277
>I could list any successful black dude just as you've done for asians.
We're not talking about individuals, we're talking about a culture of success vs. a culture of failure.

If you blame "systematic oppression" for the culture of failure, then how do you explain the culture of success?

>> No.54475329

THIS DICK AIN'T FREE

>> No.54475356

>>54475295
Thier culture survived the trip to America you idiot! They came as immigrants for various reasons and had goals set. They had their cultures, religions, communal power structures, and above all AGENCY from day 1.
The culture of african americans formed itself from a largely obliterated lineage and shoddy oral history. It formed itself in an environment that largely considered it inferior and dangerous (and still does in a lesser degree).
The two circumstances are not comparable.

>> No.54475366

>>54475325
Because the two cultures developed in separate social environments. Why is that so hard to understand?

>> No.54475399

>>54475356
So you reiterate my point, which is that Asians succeed because of their culture and blacks fail because of their culture.

Either way, there's no "system" in place keeping the black man down. It's their responsibility to bring their culture up or adapt to one that isn't shit.

>> No.54475431

>>54475399
>It's their responsibility to bring their culture up or adapt to one that isn't shit.

I agree with you on this, but you're completely dismissing the fact that there certainly was an oppressive system keeping black people down during the formative generations of their newly granted freedom. Today, subtle vestiges of that system remain.

>> No.54475569

>>54475431
Even when there were systems, there wasn't a singular, overreaching system. The debate over the morality of these systems is the reason why the US was founded as a union of colonies as opposed to one state like most countries in the world. The constitution was formed in such a way that these systems could be abolished, and historically, the federal government has attempted and succeed every effort to abolish them.

There's no fucking conspiracy, and the conspiracy theorist can't even articulate what the theory is anymore (ten years ago it was the war on drugs, now it's just, uh, police be racist). Obama was on Kimmel the other night explaining the reasons Ferguson's police culture is bad, but nobody's hearing it because it doesn't fit in with the narrative that there's some omnipresent illuminate shit convincing good black people to shoot up corners because of the evil white man.

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