Metal generalhttp://pastebin.com/pwPUDzEXOld: >>54201604Daily reminder to ignore the faggot who keeps baiting us with le black metal is inherently nationalist meme
First for black people are alright
>>54218534Fuck niggers and fuck you
2nd for >GRAAAAAAANDMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
4th for O1o1oN
5th for our boy Mirai
6th for potato recording
These generals are garbage anymore. Where else do you guys go to talk about metal?
>>54218601I usually just don't, talking to music fans of any kind is mostly awful
>>54218601I go see my friends and realize that I've spent so much time listening to obscure niche shit nobody gives a shit about that I've completely neglected such classics as Morbid Angel, Obituary, Mayhem, Marduk and Death.
>>54218547#NoHate
What's with the influx of /pol/ lately?
>>54218630Shit I wish I could talk about the classics with my dudes. All my metal bros have spread out across the country. Gettin old sucks.
>goregrind about killing and raping women, sure, cool>death metal about fucking corpses or going on shooting sprees, awesome >black metal with some nationalism or racism involved WHOA WHOA THAT'S TOO FAR makes-fucking-sense
>>54218649varg released a video and /pol/'s been talking about it and I guess it evolved into metal discussion so they moved here.
>>542186494chan was always racist, when /pol/ was created, the racism simply concentrated itself, standardized itself around memes and trendy topics and now, we care about racists on 4chan because they've all turned into paranoid shitposters who memepost about "cuckolding", "cultural marxism" and "racemixing" and other dank memes they read about on /pol/.Before, they weren't noticeable. They were part of our identity as a website, but they've ostracized themselves with their memes.
>>54218673But anon nobody implied that nationalist black metal is necessarily bad. It's just that saying that BM is inherently and defintely nationalist per definition is simply bullshit, as is the statement that every BM fan must be a nationalist. I don't think every Goregrind fan is a necrophiliac, do you?
>>54218673Nobody ITT says it's too far, it's just fucking annoying to see "le ebin nigger haters" in metal threads who push their fucking political ideas like SJWs do.We don't care that you're a fucking skinhead with your dick up your ass.Goregrind's about killing and raping women, yet nobody talks about rape here.Death metal's about corpses and shooting sprees. You don't see necrophiliacs and murderers here.>>54218689I know this.
>>54218704this, if you want to talk about how much you hate niggers and kikes go to /pol/
>>54218704I think rape is pretty cool and that's one of the things that make me enjoy Goregrind.
>>54218734YOU EVIL MISOGYNIST GO BACK TO /POL/
life is just pain and piss
>>54218673Do you think that gore lyrics are anything more than shock value? Do you think these bands want to mutilate people?The difference is that NatSoc bands actually believe the shit they spew and I can't get down with that. The music is nothing more than a vehicle for their politics.
>>54218734Wow well this anecdotical evidence of one person on an anonymous imageboard, claiming to like both goregrind and rape surely proves all of the previously presented points wrong
>>54218745nobody called the /pol/lack an evil misogynist, we're just tired of his fucking bullshit.most NSBM fans here don't go out of their way to bash people in metal threads, he's just an edgy teen who's using NSBM as an excuse to push his /pol/ shit into /metal/.
>>54218762Both of these statements are simplistic exaggerations.
>>54218762Do you really think every single goregrind band is purely 'shock value'? Do you really think people who dedicate that much of their time to creating things with that kind of subject matter don't actually have an interest in it? I'm pretty sure NSBM bands don't actually go around lynching people most of the time either, that doesn't mean either case doesn't like what they are making music about. You faggots have such a knee jerk reaction to nationalism its hilarious. Every other horrible thing under the sun is ok to like here except racism. Pathetic.
>>54218753Speaking of pain and piss and poo and vomit and snot, isn't our nigga Nattefrost going to release something new soon enough?I like Nattefrost, he's like a little GG Allin from Norway.
>>54218795>Every other horrible thing under the sun is ok to like here except racism.Not true, plenty of NSBM gets discussed here. You're just being an annoying faggot who thinks it's alright to be a fucking obnoxious twat because you like NSBMguess what? I don't like niggers and kikes too but I don't fucking cry about it in /metal/, I bring that shit to /pol/ where it belongs
>>54218810No clue, but his solo work>carpathian forest
>>54218789Forgive me if I don't shed a tear for fascists and the members of goregrind bands who actually want to rape and mutilate people.
>>54218817Apparently you aren't aware of how this argument started, or that its involving multiple people on both sides. You're a little slow aren't you?
>>54218827faggots like you should find a new hobby
>>54218831all I see ITT and last thread is some /pol/lack trying to push /pol/ here.
>>54218826Musically speaking I still think Carpathian Forest is better, but it sure as hell isn't as interesting as Nattefrost's solo stuff. Since we're discussing edgy stuff, which Nattefrost song is your favorite? Mine is Preteen Deathfuck because it's fun and reminds me of Expose yourself to Kids.
>>54218795Interested like they find the subject fascinating on a academic level or like they want to rape and torture?
>>54218845Nah I'm good. Stay mad, wonderbread.
>>54218827I want liberals out of metal
>>54218880how about on an artistic level or as masturbatory entertainment? There's different levels of "wanting" to rape and torture. There's "man if I could get away with it I guess I would", there's "it looks pretty cool in horror movies", there's "it's ironically edgy but I still like the idea", there's "I'm planning on doing it, just gotta buy a little more chloroform and I'm good to go" etc...
Just sayin nationalism has always been a part of black metal. Why do you guys get mad about it? Nothing wrong about loving your roots
>>54218901You will always be a nigger
>>54218916"okay"
>>54218916As he posts a picture of an anarchist. Top kek m8.
>>54218866https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fwRMReR4eothis here. I'm a sucker for dumb satan shit
>>54218916I want politics to stay in /pol/>>54218925Nothing wrong with loving your roots, I'm proud to be white and I have nothing wrong with nationalism in black metal (I listen to a lot of nationalistic black metal)It's just the edgy /pol/lack /b/tard who thinks white pride means calling everything a nigger and that you shouldn't like black metal if you disagree with nationalism
>>54218925Absolutely not true. Black metal was always about hatred and rebelling against the society, not about pansy socialist feelgood agendas like nazism that are supposed to bring people together.>Nothing wrong about loving your rootsMaybe if you're a faggot hippie
>>54218932No seriously, I'm a faggot and I managed not to turn into a liberal puppet so if I can do it so can you.
Oh hey that reminds me, have you niggers listened to World Metal-Kosmopolis Sud?it's interesting.No seriously, it's interesting. When I saw the song titles I thought it was going to be some generic hippie shit with a female singer and a bongo. Turns out it's actually very innovative and diverse without just being "muh multiculturalism".
>>54218970>It's just the edgy /pol/lack /b/tard who thinks white pride means calling everything a nigger and that you shouldn't like black metal if you disagree with nationalismExcept that never happened, and you aren't really a nationalist. Politics are part of black metal whether you can handle banter or not faggot.
>>54218994Politics are a part of black metal, but that doesn't mean you should discuss politics in /metal/.
>>54218990"okay">>54218994"okay">>54218989"okay">>54218970"okay"
>>54218970lel I posted that thing to see what would happen. Never tought it would evolve to this.
>>54218994>Politics are part of shitty worthless black metalftfy
somebody make a thread on /pol/ and direct all the edgemasters thereoff topic is shitposting
>>54218866Nattefrost is the grand master of WTF outros.
Is this the end of /metal/ as we know it?
>>54219034Yes. /pol/ trying to turn this into national socialist discussion
>>54219019If you weren't an edgemaster you wouldn't be listening to degenerate crap like black metal in the first place, and would instead listen to proper christian music.
>>54218990leftists=/=liberalsIs /pol/ really filled with Fox news retards?
DISCUSS THIS SHIT >>54218993 YOU FUCKING FAGGOT CUNTS STOP FUCKING UP THE THREAD WITH YOUR HOT OPINIONS FUCK YOU'RE LIKE OLD INCONTINENT GRANDMAS EXCEPT INSTEAD OF PISS, IT'S YOUR OPINIONS YOU CAN'T HOLD IN.
>>54218989No not really. First it was about being brutal music. Then it was about cultural heritage and now its about what the fuck you ever want it to be
>>54219061nobody cares about that faggy shit, nigger
RIP /metal/
>>54219065>Then it was about cultural heritageNo it wasn't. Not even Burzum was about that.
>>54219097Maybe you should go back and read some Burzum lyrics before spouting bullshit
>>54219097It was aske/st listen to it dumbass. War is obiviously about norwegian pagans being killed
>>54218990Why do you keep posting pictures of Fenriz when he is a leftist crustie?
>>54219097Do what now?
>mfw this thread
>>54219141>>54219133>>54219122>I was born in the 90s
>>54218968Anarchism isn't liberalism you dumb shit, it's a split from socialism. >>54218970I'm not a NatSoc, I support LGBT and I just believe that the aryan race should not be mixed with other races for several reasons but I do not hate those other races nor do I think they're not equal to mine or will I ever judge someone for mixing with a different heritage.
>>54219155>You weren't
Y'all faggots are making HHH sound smart and mature.I hope you're proud of yourselves.
>>54219155'75 actually, numbnuts. You're fucking thick.
>>54219155How the fuck is that even a response to you being wrong about the content of Burzum lyrics?
>>54219155Legit comeback idiot. Lets fucking drop this discussion it was fucking one dumbass sentence I wrote while waiting for the buss for odins sake
>>54219166who is this penis persevator?
>>54219138Varg then?Burzum is pretty shitty.>>54219197https://thevikingqueen.wordpress.com/
>>54219177whoa damn we've got an even older fart than turny over here
>>54219166Liberal to a lot of misinformed people just means left. I was operating under the assumption that that was what he was implying.Regardless if the dude doesn't like "liberals" for their egalitarian political beliefs I highly doubt he's going to agree with anarchism.
>>54219186It just shows you don't understand black metal or Burzum lyrics.
>>54219228Varg is just a degenerate hippie.
>>54219259No, it shows you are talking about shit that you have never read before.
>>54219228>Varg>wearing a black flag shirt
>>54219259Wow you real stupid
>>54219281Lamenting over the destruction of your ancestors culture does not automatically make it nationalist. It's a good sign but they are not interdependent. Maybe that's what the anon is getting at.
>>54219271>Varg>Hippie>>54219287I know kek, it gets me every time as well.He looks like such a nice old man though.>Tfw he will never teach you how to get a woman and be a hero
>>54219228
>>54219315>Tfw he will never teach you how to get a woman and be a heroI wish Varg was my dad
>>54219344Buzzkill
>>54219344I'm glad that was shopped, black flag is fucking lame.
>>54219389no
>>54219378w2c that sweatshirt
>>54219413It is though, but it's not the lamest, that would be their fans.
>>54219315>>54219344so does he always wear the same shirt or what
>>54219413A lot of old punk is actually quite good, but not black flag. That shit is gay as fuck.
>>54219367He's my dadfu
His name is Louis now lmao
>>54219466>my war>slip it in>nervous breakdown>damaged>jealous again>badI guess that's an opinion.
>>54219476>will never play basic fantasy rpg with dadvarg>never introduce my girlfriend to him and see if he approves>never go shooting and talk about becoming Odinsucks
>>54219476He's my husbando, not even kidding, I want to suck his dick.No homo ofcourse, that would be un-Aryan.
>>54219549rollins is a faggot and so was that mexican guy, and the rest of it still isn't very good
>>54219549Black Flag is really bad commie shit, I got better things to do than wasty my time on that delusional bullshit.
Hey /metal/ I never listen to metal or anything like it, recommend me shit, I´m angry and feel like listening to powerful stuff
>>54219601Dopethrone
>>54219608No no no, stop with your bullshit recommendation lists and tiers, post Youtube links
>>54219601https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oJntDxMMO8
>>54219601https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14btYfUBpoI
>>54219622https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaMbKZPBruU Faggot
>>54219598>referring to things as commie shit
>>54219623https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yedkKccl2wc DIS are 10/10
>>54219601powerful? How about power metal?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmhxWi5O1gghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfK_IaX7G00angry?how's this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaDidX0WykMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm8Un0iHgcIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-RdsIst6p4
>>54219601>Black-Metal:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IJovmgDJPY>Atmospheric Black-Metalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTI0MgVzuxQ>Hiptser Black Metal:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfbLWHT7vUU>Thrash-Metal:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WKhYxxIF7A>Death-Metal:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuObEafAY9U>Melodic Death-Metal:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p2rBMXemnU
>>54219601https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Su1YXQYek
>>54219608Is that the only metal album /mu/ knows?
>>54219714it's been spammed lately.it's on the verge of becoming our boku no pico
>>54219673I agree
Thanks everyone, I´m liking this Lightning Magician thing, didnt liked >>54219623too much, I prefer stuff focused more on vocals, dunno hows that called>>54219712Yeah I was listening to that when I posted
>>54219601https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0lhTFGiHj0
>>54219711>hipster black metal>SUN BAT HER>not Aesthethicanigger what?I mean, neither are angry so I don't wee why you'd recommend them but come on son.
>>54219742>wants 'angry powerful music'>doesnt like dis
>>54218993>have you niggers listened to World Metal-Kosmopolis Sud?No but i'll do.
>>54219598>giving a single fuck about the 'message' in punk music>using the word commie unironicallyGet a hold of this guy!
>>54219742Mastodon confirmed for pleb "metal". Literally the first thing plebs gravitate towards when presented with a wide variety of options.
>>54219742Most metal doesn't focus on vocals. Especially angry shit.
>>54219766Sorry, I dont necessarily want something angry, I just said I was angry >>54219791Its because of the comic, I also like Moby Dick a lot
>>54219756Didn't like it man, I'm sorry.>>54219665>>54219772Only liberals get this mad about the world commie.
>>54219791Sure. It doesn't mean it's bad.
>>54219800Metal doesn't focus on vocals at the expense of the rest, but it doesn't half-ass vocals. Especially not when it's angry.
>>54219772Fuck off nigger, commies suck and so does black flag
>>54219819>>54219819>>54219819
>>54219809Or politically literate people who aren't stuck in the Cold War.
https://falsexidolrecords.bandcamp.com/album/sans-succubus
>>54219803>Its because of the comic, I also like Moby Dick a lotJust like everyone else. You like it because of a long-dead rageface meme, and because you haven't listened to The Call of the Wretched Sea, which is an actual concept album about Moby Dick that tries painstakingly to recreate its atmosphere and to reference it as much as possible.It's not really angry though.But if you like Moby Dick, you must listen to this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NdKAMBAMhY>>54219809You don't have to like Aesthethica to recommend it, it's a better meme than SUN BAT HER.
>>54219809>Only liberals get this mad about the world commie.It's not a question of political preferences. Some of my relatives are Russians, do not give a fuck about left vs right bullshit, but do get mad about commies and what they did. Just shut up, fuckwit.
>>54219851I've met enough commies, they're still at large in the edgy teenager community.>>54219871Well on that note, listen to Aesthethica everyone.>>54219930Good for you, I don't give a shit about your personal life, go lead a women's rights march like a good liberal.
>>54218497https://slyisalive.bandcamp.com/track/abyssoddoes this count?
>>54218497https://falsexidolrecords.bandcamp.com/album/crust-wizard
>>54219977>Good for you, I don't give a shit about your personal life, go lead a women's rights march like a good liberal.Go lead a demonstration of the blind people, you eyeless fuckwit. Reread my post and shag off with your liberals vs trads pol bullcrap.
>>54220110You really proved him wrong, and what a tolerant and progressive person you are :^)
>>54220110Sure man.>>54220196Kek.
What happened to this place
>>54219819Don't give a fuck about commies and people's political views in generalI'm not even a commieStop being so butthurt and get a better grip of reality man
>>54220196Liberals tolerate intolerance and oppression. Leftists do not.
>>54221086>>54221110shut the fuck up already you weak jawed lefty faggot
>>54220805It became a shit holeAlso, is there any place on the internet where people dicuss metal?
>>54221135>being this butthurt on a bhutanese anime boardgo outside and talk to people
>>54221142metallum has forumsgod awful forums
>>54221142Everywhere is worse than here.
>>54221167nice scripted response you fucking subhuman
any satan in
>>54221994ya
you fucking morons deserve gorespamer
It'd be nice. I certainly hope you all are reporting all the /pol/ shit too folks.
>>54222065>gorespamernever heard of them, death metal I assume?
>>54222082It's always a bitter taste of reality when I realise how stupid people here really are. Too bad i don't think mods give any fucks.
>>54219572Varg looks so fluffy now. I want to hold his hand and burn down churches with him.
Worst thread ever, you didn't even need tripfags to ruin this one gj
>>54222334It's okay that you're new
>>54222065Sharing Doom or Stoner metal that has been reposted from a link provided by either I, the Witchfinder or Climaxia. Oh, how I love metal sharethreads or share threads.Did I mention that my favorite words in the dictionary are:Climaxia Dopethrone stoner doom sludge meal metal sharethread
>>54218673>a political propaganda film is the same as a horror film
What is the best speed metal record ever and why is it pic related?
>>54219228>Games Workshop bag
>>54219228>Games Workshop bagWonder what army he plays.
>>54223101Orcs probably.You think he dabbles in 40k or sticks to fantasy?
So vocalist of Amebix, drummer from Voivod, and guitarists from Misery and War//Plague started a supergroup called Tau Cross.Sounds like a typical supergroup sadly.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgsqKjiCJ6Y&t=45
>>54223217>Sounds like a typical supergroup sadly.It's a real shame that this always seems to happen.
>>54223314Yea... I got faith in this though.
>>54223101>>54223208Well he certainly won't be playing Salamanders
who /liquidmetal/ here
why didn't anyone tell me how fucking good this album is? I always liked the first 3 CC albums, but I think this one tops all of them. it's got better songwriting, way better production, and the drums are insane
>>54223101>>54223208>tfw you will never play 40k with Varg. Fuck.
>>54223430I loathe the drum sound of The Bleeding.It sounds like someone pounding a pumpkin.
lawl. You fuckin' black metal fags are as bad as those hair metal fags (though at least the hair metal fags were funny and didn't make shit that sounded like it was produced for five cents).Feels good to be a thrash/death/grind bro.P.S. I like "some" black metal but some of you guys are so far up your asses, it's not even funny.
Thoughts? I really liked it. It's probably my favorite release from them so far. Though, the ambient/symphonic parts were a little too long, and felt a little out of place. Also, if you're not into the whole ortho sound I'd avoid it.
>>54223528the drums sound like they do on every Scott Burns album, but there's more midrange and definition than in the usual Scott Burns mixthe rhythms are insanely good though, seriously. this guy (whose name is apparently Mazurkiewicz) is playing more creatively than the vast majority of metal drummers I've heard
>>54223208High Elves?
>>54223430The original recording is unbearable.Really I can't stand any of their first four albums that aren't remastered. They sound like such shit to me. The difference is absolutely incredible.
>>54223619>Feels good to be a thrash/death/grind bro.but brutal death grindcore is not musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi3qC_zQ4Po
>>54223619Feels good to be a doom bro.
>>54223717yeah, there's a very good reason that almost every classic Scott Burns album owned by a major label has gotten remastered. It's a classic sound, but there's a lot wrong with it.I actually just realized that my copy of The Bleeding might be the remastered version, although I could have sworn it was in the "originals" section of the torrent I downloaded. At any rate, my copy sounds great
>>54223619Black metal is my favorite metal subgenre but I despise the self-important fanbase and "ideologies".What a bunch of fucking dorks.
>>54223959Yeah, I second this.For the longest time, I hatred Napalm Death's "Harmony Corruption" album because the original release sounded like dog shit and then Earache finally put out a remaster a few years back and now it's a fuckin' killer album.
>>54223619 my manhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6WKUhrueVc
>>54223003I think I have a pretty distorted view on what exactly Speed Metal is, I know it's not Thrash, isn't it just British Heavy Metal but faster and more Punk-ish? I need some help here
Underrated albums from otherwise well-known metal bands
>>54223003>not PORT ROYAAAAAAAAAAAAAL
>>54224137I'd like to think that speed metal is proto-power metal to some extent.
>>54224137Pretty much. It's what came before thrash by incorporating the speed of punk. Venom and Motorhead are your main examples of speed bands.
>>54224137>>54224232I was always under the impression it was that thing in between heavy metal and power metal. Like Keep of the Seven Keys, or Thundersteel.
>>54224137I think otherwise, speed metal is fast but melodic heavy metal without prominent punk influences.
>>54224173
Is any band here worth seeing? Especially cryptopsy because of obvious reasons. http://www.ticketfly.com/event/770583?utm_source=MEL&utm_medium=107449
>>54224404thats my favorite gorguts album, It reminds me so much of DOOM for some reason.
How to make an esoteric BM cover:-make it look like an engraving-put naked muscular dudes (suffering, so that it doesn't look like power metal)-put spooky skellingtons-put stylized wiggly fire-put snakes (snakes are very important)-put greek letters or magickal thingies
>>54224614Replace naked muscular dudes with naked women and you're spot on.
>>54224677it's pretty much just naked people period
>>54224404Obscura blew me away, I'm gonna listen to that next
>>54224728truth
isabrut.bandcamp.comheathenblack.bandcamp.com
>>54224614
>>54224173the whole melvins discography is spectacular but i never see this album mentioned here at all
>>54224614wtf is esoteric black metal?
>>54225032Some retard didn't like the term 'orthodox' so instead he uses 'esoteric' even though it objectively makes far less sense.
>>54225065you're objectively wrong though
>>54224987Saw them live once. They're meh. The singer ties the cord of the mic around his arms for no reasons and wiggles a lot but that's all. The crowd looked bored too.
>>54225107 es·o·ter·ic ˌesəˈterik/ adjective adjective: esoteric intended for or likely to be understood by only a small number of people with a specialized knowledge or interest.vsor·tho·doxˈôrTHəˌdäks/adjectiveadjective: orthodox; adjective: Orthodox 1. (of a person or their views, especially religious or political ones, or other beliefs or practices) conforming to what is generally or traditionally accepted as right or true; established and approved.Fucking retard, I swear.
>>54224987I usually dont like "orthodox" but I cant hate that album because of the beginning riff. SO FUCKING CRUNCHY
TEST
Now I know why I can't seem to get into black metal.I'm not white.
>>54225225ticles
Transcendental Black Metal should really be called White Metal.
>>54225225Oh thank fucking god I was accidentally permabanned and it got fixed
>>54225259Life MetalHope MetalValue Metal
>>54225259Doorbell Metalcause that's what it boils down to
>>54225309>value metallawl. Is that like the value meal of heavy metal?The fuck would that sound like?
>>54225155A live show is inferior to album material, of which their albums are amazing. I'm not sure how they'd play live anyway, since it's just MkM on vocals and another guy programming drums and playing everything else.>>54225165It's a great fucking album. Dat final track too...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me6jwsEPKXc
>>54225457kekI can't disagree with this.
>>54224875heathen has the same time signatures of filosofem.
I wish to soon stop being poor and afford a guitar and equipment and especially a fuzz pedal so I can sit at home and play the same riff that sounds like a massive fart for five hours straight while stoned.
>>54225620they used 4/4? what a fucking ripoff!
>>54225687ikr what total hacks
Any Symphony X fans up in here? O
>>54225713one of the first metal bands I loved and I still like to binge them once in awhile, until all the baroque solos get too goofy for methey're one of very few metal bands who do a cheesy Kansas style of prog, which I think is cool
This may seem vague. but I'm looking for an album posted in a /metal/ thread a while ago. It was >math >progressive >super weird >black metal. The cover was something like the (fucking amazing) drawing I've made on paint
>>54225847mastery - valis
>>54225823Theyre a band that really requires you to embrace the cheese to like em. But once you do, theyre actually really good players, especially when it comes to guitar and bass.
>>54225847Dopethrone
>>54225847http://theflenser.bandcamp.com/album/valis
>>54224137It's traditional heavy metal music except FAST. Faster drums, faster riffs sometimes tremolo-ed, etc.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N2f1Tzdigohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xEeKSn_3Okhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWEDeBJ8_Iwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2-31pUsBOEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F74Qyphn3zk>>54224392The punk influences aren't necessary but are sometimes included (see Tank, Venom, Warfare, Motorhead, Raven). Often times when this punk element is included, people will call it Thrash Metal or proto-thrash.
>>54225868yeah Michael Romeo is like Yngwie with a sense of humor and much better technique, and Thomas Miller was one of the GOAT metal bassists before he basically disappearedhe released a demo for a new project a few years ago that sounds very TIO-ish, but nothing ever came of ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtMB4ZXqeOA
>>54225847Not vague at all. I actually thought you uploaded the actual album art at first, lol.
Anyone else listening to this shit? It's crazy good
>>54226448The new one makes me hard, faggot-style hard, in a good way.
>>54225861thanks
>>54225890Thanks
Okay I think I've pretty much exhausted the essentials. Please rec me some more obscure drone/ stoner shit. Basically stuff that isn't Electric Wizard, Boris, Melvins, Earth, Sleep, Sunn O)))... the usual recs.
>>54226727
>>54226603Yeah man, it's sick, I got one of the tapes too. Fresh Flower Offering was probably my favourite song of last year, at least it's up there. CSR is just a great label in general. I'm loving the new Quincunx and Aksumite
>>54226727You should start listening to junky sludgeEyehategod, Iron Monkey, Acid Bath, Meth Drinker, Noothgrush etc
>>54226727>>54226804
>>54226727Menace Ruine is pretty great. They play more of a black kind of doom compared to many of the doomy drone bands
>>54226804>>54226854>>54226876>>54226893Thanks guys, I know and love some of these already but there's plenty to sink my teeth into.
>>54226727also listen to this guy >>54226854and get some Lord Mantis, Coffinworm, The Body, Thou, Primitive Man and Dragged Into Sunlight there
is there any good 'industrial' metal that uses real old school sound (throbbing gristle, SPK, EN, coil) and not ebm beats like rammstein?last years NKVD, mysticum and godflesh were good
>>54226727>>54226854>>54226996>all these sludge recs>no ToadliquorTOADLIQUOR>>54226893Menace Ruine don't get nearly enough discussion here. The Die is Cast is awesome.
>>54227165absolute shit band
>>54227220>Thou is fine>The Body is fine>Toadliquor is notStick with your fantanosludge then.
>>54227276The Body is shit too I agreedidn't listen to Thou, but Indian is probably the worst of these
>>54227165didn't think toadliquor was all that good but it's just filthy sludge and that's what it's supposed to be anyway so it's alrightsomething like pic related, liked that one a bit more>>54227135try author & punisher, p.h.o.b.o.s., gnaw
>>54227342thanks
>>54227338>The Body is shit too I agree>Indian is probably the worst of theseWell I guess we can at least agree on that.
>>54225155>he doesn't aimlessly wiggle in glee at black metal showswhat's the point then
>>54227338>Expecting anything other than crushing hateful sludge from a sludge band.You seem to be doing it wrong.
>>54227393I saw Indian live last year; it was fantastic. So fucking loud and dirty
>>54219692you're an immense homosexual
So, these guys are considered black metal legendshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs7TO3oxt6MBut, this guy is considered hipster scumhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV00_B3ZirQHow exactly does this logic work?
>>54227429yeah man, because the Melvins were always so fucking hateful and violent and cynical, not just a bunch of goofy punks who liked Celtic FrostAcid Bath too, Dax Riggs has such a fucking scornful Southern croon
>>54227950You obviously don't know shit about real Black Metal, buddy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndrcz3mybPg
>>54227403I do actually.But the singer was kinda writhing in agony, except he didn't really hurt, so he tried to kinda sorta hurt himself by wrapping the mic cord around his arms.
>>54227995Listening to bands like The Body, Toadliquor, Leechmilk, Grief, etc etc isn't done for superior songwriting. It's cause it's fucking heavy and crushing.
>>54228068hey man Grief is fun to play. Their songwriting is at least good enough for that.
>>54225007I think it lacks discussion because it wasn't as friendly to the masses as Houdini and it wasn't as head turning as Lysol.
>>54228068>It's cause it's fucking heavy and crushingSee, I could buy that if The Body didn't sound to me like the world's tinniest distorted bass guitar with distorted clown wooping over it as vocals.
>>54227950yeah you got that right
>>54228086Playing out any crushing riff is fun in my book.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WptignJ_qs
>>54228187man I was figuring out how to play Bongripper's "Hail" on bass and I didn't realize I was playing along to the guitar the whole time. >tfw no money to modify my bass to tune a diminished octave below standard.
>>54228187>tfw this band used to pop up in my recommended section of youtube and I'd never listen because the band name made me think they were scenecore
>>54228068yeah but some people would rather listen to the Melvins or maybe even some psychedelic sludge or even a "prog-sludge" band like Baroness or >Mastodonit's not like the genre has a teleology, it's just a type of hardcore-influenced metal
>>54228406Have bands such as Mastodon and Isis done more harm than good?Isis spawned countless clones that are all overly derivative and boring, and Mastodon allowed for bands like Kylesa, Torche, and Red Fang
>>54228520Well, Isis did help popularize the atmosludge thing that Neurosis started and despite the fact that the genre has a ton of derivative bands, it did also actually produce some cool bands worth listening to.
>>54228406"Prog" sludge can barely even be called sludge anymore.I see your point, but really what's the point in listening to sludge if it isn't filthy and... sludgey? If the anon criticizing a band like Indian prefers Mastodon for his sludge, then I suppose it's understandable, but if you already enjoy those crushing kind of sludge bands I see no reason to not enjoy Indian and others.
>>54228520so just don't listen to those bands they influenced thenotherwise you might as well blame neurosis who were a fucking massive influence on both ISIS and MastodonISIS and early Mastodon are still good anyway
>>54228620>ISIS and early Mastodon are still good anywayI never said they weren't. It's like the cool kid sat down at the weird kid's table, and then everyone wanted to join them.
>>54228038i never bothered to click this the first 5 times i saw it
>>54228520What's wrong with Torche?
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>>54228598>if you already enjoy those crushing kind of sludge bands I see no reason to not enjoy Indian and othersI get what you're trying to say but you make it sound like I have to enjoy Indian because I enjoy Noothgrush, Meth Drinker and Toadliquor. For reference, I don't like Indian.
>>54228715Fantano likes them
>>54227135That's easy.Fetch yourself some Dissection Table, Chu Ishikawa's Testudo soundtracks and the first Laidback album.Also. Where the hell is the metal band that merges early Industrial with grindcore, bay area thrash and Florida death metal?
hmmm
>>54228800The only album I can think of that could come close to industrial grindcore is O.L.D. - Lo Flux Tube.Which is actually a pretty great album, I might add.
>>54228520I don't give a shit what the knockoffs of a band did, or else I would never listen to pretty much any metal band; they've all been responsible for a lot of garbage wannabes. At any rate, Kylesa's pretty cool and Cult of Luna is my favorite atmosludge band (though that's not saying much)>>54228598>what's the point in listening to sludge if it isn't filthy and... sludgey?the point of listening to any piece of music isn't really defined by its genre...I mean, there are a million different ways to appreciate and interpret the basic sound of death metal or black metal too.also there are a lot of reasons someone might enjoy really heavy sludge but not enjoy Indian
>>54228739What is it that makes Indian differ from the older bands, besides having a more modern sound?
>>54228850>also there are a lot of reasons someone might enjoy really heavy sludge but not enjoy IndianIndian's vocals and riffs are similar to other crushing band such as Thou. The only noticeable difference I can think of off the top of my head is that Indian uses harsh noise for atmosphere.Can harsh noise sampling really ruin a band for someone?
>>54228520What ISIS clones are out there?
>>54228970none are noteworthy, but if you browse Realm of Metal and listen to every single album tagged "Progressive Sludge" or "Atmospheric Sludge" more often than not they are ISIS clones whether it's Oceanic, Panopticon, or In the Absence of Truth
>>54228949This is similar to my thought process. I'm just really unsure how one could like some and dislike others when the bands are very similar.I'll admit Indian isn't particularly melodic or "catchy" compared to Thou but any heavy riff is ultimately catchy.
>>54229074it's probably just "Fantano liked From All Purity, so I can't like it"
>>54228970This is from 2015 and you can still hear the ISIS in ithttps://owlcries.bandcamp.com/album/eyes-of-paraffin-wax
>>54228970SUMAC is an early ISIS clone :^)
>>54228906The songwriting itself just rubs me the wrong way. I know that's a nitpicky thing to complain about when talking about heavy-ass sludge but for me Indian does the same spiel over and over again to the point where individual songs just become indistinguishable for me. Feel free to call me crazy or prejudiced or contrarian or whatever, but I'm not feeling it, especially when older bands (in my opinion) pulled it off much more tastefully. I'm not against throwbacks, but Indian's riffage doesn't catch my fancy.>>54228949>Can harsh noise sampling really ruin a band for someone?I dunno man, I liked it when Old Man Gloom did it.
>>54228970I never really got this either, if anything I feel a lot of atmosludge bands ripped off Cult of Luna more, especially the vocal style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg_wh6phdFgany spongecore in?
>>54229281It's not like I have any vested stock in Indian or anything, just curious. I've listened to From All Purity a few times, and am listening to it again now, but the crushing sludgey riffs just overpower everything to me. The "chorus" in Rhetoric of No towards the end is so fuckin killer too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAYG5YjYdJQ
>>54229189haha i get it ;D>>54229347What bands do you see that in?
>>54229483I wish I could better understand what he's saying or at least find official lyricsDoes it go "I'm not friends with every man, everyman and every man" on repeat?
>>54229634You know, I've been wondering this myself, because whatever it is, it's fucking catchy haha. I hear it more like "No, not ever, not no one".
>>54229618>What bands do you see that in?Not that guy but Rosetta and Mouth of the Architect come to mind.
>>54229731Oh yeah I can see that in Rosetta definitely, haven't listened to Mouth of the Architect though. Rosetta did a similar thing to Neurosis with The Galilean Satellites in doing a metal side and an ambient side, like Times of Grace and Grace.
>>54229712at around 4:53 it sounds like "I'm not friends with ever" and after that it becomes unintelligible for me.After that point the repetition of lyrics just sounds like a wild animal growling while gnawing on a bone or flesh.
>>54224987When I first heard that album I thought it was great. Until I got to Temple of Knowledge that is. That track cemented that album as one of my all time favorites.
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