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54204399 No.54204399 [Reply] [Original]

Who knew a band where a hill billy and some albino pygmy child thing would be so insanely unfunny and untalented

>> No.54204420

how did they end up in Chappie

>> No.54204488

Who knew OP is such a faggot that he takes mandingo dick and pays for it apart from his parents and all people around him.

>> No.54204703

>>54204488
while that may be true, my point still stands

>> No.54204814

>>54204399
I hate them so much

>> No.54204862

>>54204703
What is your point though? You have stated that they are unfunny and untalented but you have not provided any proof or evidence to back this up. Your point therefore, does not stand.

>> No.54204895

Hey! I think they're good. Totally different artistic style to what I'm used to seeing.

>> No.54204947

>mfw he was my biological mothers first kiss

>> No.54204964

>>54204399
>insanely unfunny
they are not even trying to be "funny", what are you talkin about

>> No.54204980

>>54204947
What?
Story

>> No.54205023

i miss Max Normal

>> No.54205052

The south african hills also have eyes.

>> No.54205151

>>54204399
Pitbull Terrier might be one of the worst songs I've heard in some time. Unless they were trying to be funny by making a super shitty song in the same structure as a Pitbull song. I like Die Antwoord but the two songs I've heard from their new album are fucking horrible

>> No.54205186

>no one here knowing about max normal or constructus corporation
hahahahaha this sucks man

>> No.54205193
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54205193

>no talent

>> No.54205245

>>54204980

>be me year after highschool
>druggy neet
>doing coke in a car with some girls I'd been partying with for a couple weekends
>walk in to bar
>strange older lady hanging out with a friend of my friend
>double take
>recognise her (have known I was adopted from a very young age)
>"hi, I gave birth to you anon"
>mfw
>precede to go to a club in town to see my sort of gf
>biological mother comes with
>take acid
>MFW
>find out her first kiss was waddy jones (ninja)
>have to make good impression on quasi-gf whist tripping and going through uncanny meeting of person who birthed me
>land up at plutocrat friends house for afterparty
>strange evening

>> No.54205287

>>54205245
wat

>> No.54205305

>>54204420
I'm still baffled by this.
Why couldn't have MC Ride and Flatty found the damn Robit/?

>> No.54205357

>>54205305
Neill Blomkamp is South African, Die Antwoord are South African and their characters represent a major part of the South African population, sorta like trailer trash in the US.

>> No.54205375

>>54205305
I would be severely discomforted if i saw Mc ride speak in a normal voice for more than 2 minutes

>> No.54205392

>>54205245
That story was better than i thought it would be

>> No.54205419

No one has stepped into the void of Markus Wormstorm, Felix, Max Normal, Real Estate Agents etc of the early 2000s so the scene is stagnating. Errbody is so fucking unproductive. Felix Laband hasn't fucking released anything since 2006.

>> No.54205444

>>54204420
I went to see that with my dad the other day and that was probably the most random cameo I've ever seen
I mean they have like full fledged main roles in that movie

>> No.54205472

Their music is an allegory of South African political discourse. OP is a pleb.

>> No.54205480

>>54205357
It's probably gonna be a good movie too.
I wonder if there is a musical number in the middle of it?
Sort of like in 'She's All That' when Usher lays out a fat beat and everyone does the Hustle.
I would like that.

>> No.54205488

>>54205193
<3

>> No.54205537

>>54205480
It's already out and it is good. There were like 4 Die Antwoord songs played in the movie, one of them is the credits track. Also there's one part where the camera focuses on a shirt Ninja is wearing that says "Yolandi Visser Die Antwoord". Seems kind of like a Die Antwoord ad at times.

>> No.54205539

>>54205419
I assume you're talking about the South African hip hop scene? Not just hip hop in general? Because I agree. Hopefully Watkin does something more underground sounding after they're done with the 5 Die Antwoord albums. I mean the dude deserves the success he has because he's insanely talented but I can't get into Die Antwoord like I can with Max Normal and The Constructus Corporation.

>> No.54205546

A beautiful example of how post-irony is just as (if not much, much more) cringeworthy as irony and sincerity.

>> No.54205572

>>54205480
Their music is interspersed throughout. Baby's on Fire and Cookie Thumper! most prominently.

>> No.54205631

>>54205539
He's never going back to that scene.

But Sibot's co producing the next DA album, so that's cool for the longtime fans.

>> No.54205634

>>54205572
Cookie Thumper was absolutely fucking terrible. Holy shit.

>> No.54205716

>>54204862

Sort of like how governments have no evidence that their rules apply to anyone.

It's just that it's been written down and they are willing to use force against people.

>> No.54205728

>>54205631
Maybe not to the underground scene, but you think he's completely done with trying to making anything outside of pop? If that's true it's kinda sad. I love Max Normal and even though I don't want him to go back to that I would like to see him do another more serious project after Die Antwoord.

>> No.54205752

>>54205151
Pitbull Terrier is missing a solid Ninja verse. The live version they performed pre Donker Mag had a verse by Ninja, and it improved the song exponentially.

Still don't mind it as it is though. Love that snarling beat. Check out Strunk and Donker Mag (the track), if you're unsure about the album. It can be a mixed bag, but Hi Tek's production is amazing. You'll like it if you like Die Antwoord.

>> No.54205769

>>54205537

It's perfectly fine in the narrative sense for some low life criminals (which they play in the film) to write their names on their shirts. Perfectly. Fine.
/s

>> No.54205802

>>54205444
>that was probably the most random cameo I've ever seen

>I mean they have like full fledged main roles in that movie

>cameo

>> No.54205816

>>54205728
I honestly have no idea what come post Die Antwoord. Not a fucking clue. There might be some clues on the last album.

I think Ninja will continue being Ninja though, whatever the project.

>> No.54206002

>>54205816
I don't know. I never meet him so I can't say for certain but it seems like Ninja, Max and all his other personas are just exaggerated parts of his own personality. Tone them down and add them together and you get Watkin. Or are you saying he'll keep the Ninja persona for his next project?

But I guess we'll just have to wait to see what's next and even though I'm not a fan of Die Antwoord I'm still looking forward to it.

>> No.54206108

>>54206002
Ninja's been Ninja for the past 7 years. I don't see that changing, no matter what type of project is next.

>> No.54206235

>>54206108
He was also Max Normal for almost 7 years but he's also like 40, so maybe he'll be done with music after Die Antwoord.

>> No.54206284

>>54206235
I meant he was Max on and off for ~7 years. I have no idea how much he toured as Max between Songs from the Mall and Good Morning South Africa.

>> No.54206415

>>54206284
Lets be real though, he was never really Max Normal. That was just a flimsy persona that was never really maintained (as much as I love the music/conceit). And Max Normal and Max Normal.TV are radically different projects in everything but name. He's in a different headspace on GMSA, trying other sounds and concepts.

>> No.54206445

Say what you will, but this song is a fucking banger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssxcGf5aZc8

>> No.54206495
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54206495

best tummy in memerap

>> No.54206522

>>54206445
Muggsy is GOAT. Interesting to see what he does on their next album.

>> No.54206525

>>54205716
Those are rules. This was a statement about a band. Not even close to being the same thing.

>> No.54206583

>>54206525

Assertions with no evidence are assertions with no evidence.

>> No.54206603

>>54206415
I haven't listened to enough of his solo stuff and I didn't live in South Africa during the time when he was performing as a solo artist or as Max so I really don't know. But I agree that it is flimsy that he only put out 1 album and 1 song as Max Normal, the 1 song being Total Fuckup, and MaxNormal.TV is definitely a transition album to S.O.S. So yeah I guess I agree with you. But I just think it's really hard to believe that Watkin is 100% sincerely Ninja. Ninja just doesn't seem like the kinda of person who would have done something like The Ziggurat.

It's probably me just being hopeful.

>> No.54206618

>>54205245
This is a story worthy of die antwoord

>> No.54206625
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54206625

>>54206583

>> No.54206643

>>54204399
https://youtu.be/bG9ZtQ3phoE?t=5m39s

last 20 seconds of that interview will help you m8

>> No.54206659

>>54206625

>I read it on the internet, so it must be true.

You sad ass government apologist.

>> No.54206689

>>54205245
>south africans

>> No.54206691

>>54206603
>Ninja just doesn't seem like the kinda of person who would have done something like The Ziggurat
Because he isn't, really. He's still a really intelligent guy and stuff, but type of music he's making now is more visceral and primal than cerebral. Just a different avenue he's exploring, one which seems to have clicked and connected with a lot people.

>> No.54206715

>>54206625

Go to court, ask them for evidence their laws apply and also show them your screenshot. Post results.

>> No.54206820

>>54205716
What the fuck are you even talking about? Do you want evidence that you have to obey the law? You'll get fined or arrested for breaking it, people do all the time.

Or do you want evidence that we really NEED to follow laws? In which case you're asking for a wholly different debate on political philosophy. "Would total anarchy mean total chaos, or do people only break laws because laws are in place to begin wtih?" and shit like that?

Fuck off, you're painfully underaged.

>> No.54206837

>>54206583
The government rules over us with law. You want evidence of said law being enforced then you can just call your local police department (non emergency services) and ask them about it. Of course the government has made an assertion of law. If you break the law you could end up in prison or dead. Would that be enough proof for you then that the government enforces law over us?

>> No.54206841

>>54206691
Yeah that's what I meant when I said all his personas are like exaggerated pieces of his own personality. He's able to move between styles easily by putting on and emphasizing different parts of his personality while still being sincerer to himself. Which is why, like you said, there's a huge shift from cerebral to primal when he went from Max Normal to Die Antwoord. And that's what I really like about him as an artist. He can cover a breadth of genres, styles and feelings all while being "true" to himself. Kinda like how McRide, although I don't listen to a ton of Death Grips, is so aggressive in his music and calm in real life.

But I see what you're getting at. A lot of people like Die Antwoord and it seems like they do too so maybe Ninja wont go away after they're done.

>> No.54206881

>>54206659

That >>54206625 is not me or my reply.

This is >>54206837

>> No.54206963

>>54206841
Ninja doesn't have to be so primal anyways, even if he wanted to get more cerebral again he could just keep the persona and put more thought behind the lyrics.

MC Ride does this well. His persona is a very lowlife person, but his lyrics are intertwined with literature references and the like.

>> No.54206985

>>54205193
this man gets it.
People who think they're trying to be funny are plain retarded

>> No.54207079

>>54206837

And what evidence is there that those rules apply...or is it just force?

I was not asking for proof that the government enforces laws, but for evidence that the laws apply to anyone.

Here are a bunch of recorded phone calls with IRS agents, police, and other government types when confronted with the question of evidence.

http://marcstevens.net/cos

>> No.54207113

>>54206820

Congrats, you've been cucked by the government.

I want evidence that the rules on the books actually apply to anyone. Or is it just because they are willing to use force that they apply?

>> No.54207150

>>54206963
It would be interesting to see a more cerebral Ninja. But that's a few years down the line assuming they keep their word about only making 5 Die Antwoord albums.

>> No.54207171

>>54204420
chappie would have been 100x better if it just about die antwoord finding a talking robot

>> No.54207183

>>54206963
>Ninja doesn't have to be so primal anyways, even if he wanted to get more cerebral again he could just keep the persona and put more thought behind the lyrics.
Pretty much. I never saw Die Antwoord as Ninja pretending to be stupid. More like Watkin embracing Zef/lower class lifestyle.

I actually think there's more thought behind DA than there is both Max Normals, even if it isn't immediately obvious.

>> No.54207193

>>54204420
isn't the director a fan of them

>> No.54207218

>>54207193
they are more like friends
the Die Antwoord logo was also in District 9

>> No.54207252

>>54207183
I'm not trying to challenge you but can you explain? I'm a huge fan of Max Normal but I've never really gotten into Die Antwoord. I kinda understand the general idea of embracing the multicultural lower class parts of South Africa(Zef) but what do you think they're trying to do?

>> No.54207262

>>54207150
They'll definitely be keeping that promise.
The number 5 holds some significance to them. It often features in their artwork and both of them have it tattoo'd on their hands. Plus Ninja always said he wanted to burn bright and fast with DA, as that is the nature of pop music. 5 albums is a decent number. We should have number 4 by Summer.

>> No.54207289

>>54207252
pretty much it's ok to be poor and stupid. just be proud of who you are and be yourself.

>> No.54207386

>>54204420
they're south african
the director is south african

that's pretty much it

>> No.54207441

>>54207289
That's what I assumed. Especially because of the contrast between them and other "mainstream" hip hop artist that value wealth and fame over everything.

>> No.54207543

>>54207113
Ok this is getting a bit ridiculous now. Yes of course it is because they use force that those rules apply. If you throw a rock up into the air and it hits you on the head, you know from the law of physics that the force of gravity will bring it down and it will hit you on the head. That law applies to everyone. Now if you commit a serious crime and you get caught, there is a good chance the government will use force to come after you and detain you. This does apply to everyone. Therefore the governments law does apply to us. They are the ones that are in power, just like the force of gravity is in power in the first scenario.

You are getting into some pretty vague-ish philosophy, and again I'm not quite sure what you're getting at. From the first convo, you can easily find videos online to back up your statement about the band if it was true. Evidence for law seems like common sense to me.

>> No.54207592

This >>54207543 was meant to be a reply for this >>54207079

Fuck me i'm bad at replying today.

>> No.54207688

>>54207543

So you admit that there's no evidence and that it's just force.

So pretty much anything can become a "law" and as long as there are people willing to use force to make other people obey...

Also, check out the phone calls I linked to...for actual government agents unable to provide evidence, much like yourself.

>> No.54207848

>>54207688
You think you're being really smart, but everything you're saying is complete nonsense.
>So pretty much anything can become a "law" and as long as there are people willing to use force to make other people obey...
Yes, nobody has ever argued this point. It's been a fact of history literally since the days of fucking Babylon. The entire purpose of democracy is it's supposed to eliminate this possibility, in practice it's not entirely successful but that's a different debate.

You're parroting a basic flaw of autocratic rule like it's some great revelation you just made, and somehow you think the possibility of a corrupt government means you don't have to explain why you think Die Antwoord is a group with no talent.

>> No.54207886

>>54207688
wrong actually. how law is supposed to work is you go to court and a jury of your peers (society) decide if they think you should be punished or not.

the issue with the justice system is only retarded people go on jury duty (because everyone else knows how to get out of it) and because prosecutors and lawyers make sure that you don't know that you can decide to vote not guilty if it's a law you disagree with (they will throw you out of jury duty if you do). prison systems nowadays are run by private corporations to make money off of slave labor so there will never be a fix.

>> No.54207982

>>54207688
Of course.

I just watched two of those videos and the guy calling up these people seems pretty childish to me. The government is in a position of power whether you like it or not.

Would you like a world without any laws? While anarchy can seem ideal at times it just seems totally unrealistic to me.

>> No.54208353

>>54207982

it's childish to ask people who steal billions of $$$, lock other people in cages and ruin lives for victimless crimes for evidence that their laws apply?

You have indeed been cucked by the government.

>> No.54208360

>>54205245
You took lsd with your mother?

>> No.54208419

>>54208353
I think you've missed the point entirely. You also haven't answered my question.

>> No.54208437

>>54207982

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6uVV2Dcqt0

>> No.54208456

>>54204399
Wait what the fuck? They're not actors?

>> No.54208569

>>54208419

My original question is the one that hasn't been answered. I've answered any asked of me.

>> No.54208761

>>54207252
The aim of Die Antwoord is to embody post apartheid South African culture, in all its contradictions and schizophrenia, and present it to the world (and to those back at home, as a mirror). The foundations of Die Antwoord are laid out on Whatever Man. Ninja aims to merge all the various South African cultures and ethnicities into one person. That includes blacks and coloureds, Afrikaans and English etc.

After apartheid, South Africa was kind of thrown into a kaleidoscope of cultures and identities trying to find their way/gel with others. A lot of racists and ignorants wanted whites with whites, coloureds with coloureds etc. Basically no integration. As time went on, people pretended that those wounds of apartheid were healed and gone. A white man wouldn't call someone a nigger in public maybe, but he'd go home and complain about the nigger to his wife. The hatred was still there, just not out in the open. Die Antwoord basically comes in and says "we're South African culture personified. All South African cultures can exist together, even it's a bit crazy. We're examples of this". This gets a lot of people angry. Ninja, a white man, wearing prison tattoos? Saying "I'm a coloured"? Embracing a lower class Afrikaans culture? I think this threw a spanner into the works of a lot people. DA were labelled as racist, exploitative, mocking. Ultimately, they're none of these things, but it provoked many 'think pieces' and discussion, which was much needed. In the same way Max Normal was "intricately designed to blow the fuck up", Die Antwoord were made to provoke (which in turn helped them blow up). And they did both in the process of making a country talk, if only for a while. The core thesis of Die Antwoord is "we can all exist together".

I think Watkin has always been sorry that he's never created music that's truly reflective of South Africa. Die Antwoord is his attempt to justify that.

>> No.54208892

>>54208437
>>54208569
OK I've watched the entire video and i agree with a lot of what the video has to say and i can sympathize with you on this. But what are the alternatives? No government? Anarchy? Maybe a little bit of government? Most of it seems pretty unrealistic.

You haven't answered everything that was asked of you. My question was here >>54207982

What was your original question?

>> No.54209074
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54209074

>>54208761
On a conceptual, political level, that's what I get from Die Antwoord. Which is more than can be said for Max Normal, as much as I love it. But so fucking what? It doesn't make me enjoy any less or more.

Anyways, as time's gone on Die Antwoord have expanded Zef from a obscure Afrikaans slur to a counter cultural movement. Their music has largely gotten better, and their ideas stronger, even if they're divorced from South Africa a bit more. It's more personal now than political (not to say it was ever strictly political).

All the rambling I've been doing is pretty much spelled out here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN9AYg84qAU

Ninja takes the form of one of Jane Alexander's 'Butcher Boys' creatures. The idea behind this work is that the monsters of apartheid, even in this relative peace, are still there, lurking, ready to come back at any second. It's unsettling. Yolandi, an angel like figure, plunges her claws into Ninja's heart and kills him. She is killing the ghost of apartheid, rendering him useless in his attempt to drag South Africa into the past.

It all reminds me of this line from the Constructus Corporation:
"Now while I'm asking you this I'm kind of assuming
You know that every cultural revolution is sparked by an art movement".

Die Antwoord are not super deep. They primarily make explosive, fun pop music told through personal experience and sprinkled with Zef/South Africa. But I they're not brainless either, and I just wanted to offer a different perspective.

>> No.54209556

I love that Moon Love song from GMSA

Do they have anything else like that?

>> No.54209605

>>54209556
it's a remix of Scum Deluxe from The Ziggurat. check out some more songs from the album.

>> No.54210173

>>54204399
The my best friend skit on $o$ is hilarious

>> No.54210415

>>54204399
Die Antwoord are characters retard, Waddie is responsible for one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time

>> No.54210449

>>54205193
This is the album I was talking about btw. My nigga.

>> No.54210495

>>54205245
that's a story that deserves to be immortalized in song

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54210502

>>54210415
>Waddie is responsible for one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time

>> No.54210651

>>54205537
Man, there were way more than 4 of their songs played in the movie. Perhaps 4 played as music in the foreground soundtrack as opposed to background music playing in the scene. At least a dozen songs were featured.

I really enjoyed the movie and it was a 10/10 in my books but if you're not the type of person who enjoys Die Antwoord it's maybe only a 6/10.

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54210659

>>54205186

Every Meme Antwoord thread

>DA sucks
>"hurr durr they don't know about max normal or constructus corporation"

Just because his other projects are decent doesn't mean Meme Antwoord isn't complete shit

>> No.54210834

>>54210502
The Zigguart is incredible.

>> No.54210936

>>54208569
You gonna reply to this?
>>54208892

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