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Bump. I don't get it

>>54095323
It's just random noise.

>>54095339
Lol! Nice one!

>>54095339
>It's just random noise

You're thinking of Death Grips, chief.

>>54095323
>the best Jazz album ever
Ignore people who do this.

It's because every jazz fag has a hard on for Coltrane, I can sorta see why. I'm pretty new to jazz and have been trying to use the chart, but I haven't gotten around to it. I really liked bitches brew, and kind of blue. Those are really the only albums I've sat and listened to

>>54095510
And correct me if I'm wrong but did john Coltrane play with miles Davis in those two albums?

>>54095339
enjoy your dull indie-rock and diatonic chords faggot

>>54095518
Kind of Blue yes, Bitches Brew no, he was le dead

It's not the best Jazz album, but it's essential jazz tho. My absolute favorite jazz album must be Ah Um by Charles Mingus.

>>54095518
Only in Kind of Blue.
Anyways - it's because Coltranes sax is the voice of god himself.
I dont think A Love Supreme is a very good entry level jazz, you should start with more "technical" bebop and post-bop records - like the best of Bird or Gillespie, or later classics like Study in Brown and Moanin.
Once you get more into jazz and get comfortable with it- you can appreciate Coltrane's work. A Love Supreme has so much soul - every blow by John is full of expression. It's amazing.

Explaining why X jazz album is better than the other is quite hard.

Listen to more jazz from his contemporaries, listen again to A Love Supreme and perhaps you might be able to appreciate it more. The main appeal of the album resides in its avant-garde playing and its spiritual theme.

>>54095323
Because it's fuckin beautiful and played perfectly.
If you don't enjoy that sax entry after tense bass/drum buildup at around 1:04 in A Love Supreme Part I - Acknowledgement you should just stop trying.
That being said I prefer Bitches Brew over this album but on the other hand I found A Love Supreme more appealing than Kind Of Blue.

>>54095510
Check out some Mingus next, try black saint and the sinner lady or Mingus ah um

>IM NEW TO JAZZ BUT TAKE MY OPINION SERIOUSLY

>>54098557
He was only asking for an explanation, anon.

>>54095908
I think kind of blue left more to be desired almost, the melodies and rhythms were fantastic and the group were as tight as anything but it feels slightly flat compared to a love supreme which has so much movement and motion

>>54095323
This is a pretty common problem amongst people new to jazz. ALS really isn't a great introduction to jazz, even if it is one of the most important albums. It becomes much better once you have a bit of context and experience with jazz. People ought to try other types of jazz before working their way towards post-bop and free jazz. That doesn't mean that they should know the entire jazz cannon prior to ALS by heart before approaching it but people's introduction to the genre should really be people like Louis Armstrong and Duke Ellington.

Additional question: what is the most accessible Coltrane album

>>54095323
honestly i'm new to jazz too (yeah, heard kind of blue 5years ago in high school) but recently i listened to this album and loved it instantly, i'm still more of a post hardcore/emo person and i know that theres more to jazz than that, but i loved its intensity and how hard-hitting ALS is

>>54098768
Blue Train if you're ONLY concerned about accessibility.

Giant Steps if you want to hear the quartet in full force, though.

>>54095323
Because it's a simple album and a great introduction to Coltrane's experimental period, his most critically acclaimed one.

I think he did avant-garde jazz better with Ascension though, but A Love Supreme is far more easy to listen.

>>54099276
Forgot to add that it also influenced tons of important artists from the vanguard jazz scene like Pharoah Sanders and Albert Ayler.

Anybody have that getting into jazz chart?

>>54095323
Just listened to the live in france vesion of this, it's a blast. Just, total mania.

>>54099335

>>54099385
part 2

>>54099385
thanks dude

>>54098605
i was referring to this guy >>54095510

>>54099385
>>54099437
Nice one

>>54099453
np m8.

>>54095323
Once you "get it" you cant escape from it. You'll listen on a daily basis until about 60-70 times.

>Why is it so acclaimed?
because his sax is perfect. And has that "glinch" of free, not being free jazz, its more a postbop that can look into your soul. Its about god without being really about religion. Its so pure you can feel him crying about his ability as sax player.

>>54099963
thanks for sharing

>>54099963
This.

>>54095579
I was listening to that the other day but the only songs that stood out for me were "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat," "Self-Portrait in Three Colors," and "Fables of Faubus." Would you or someone else know of an artist/album that are in that style?

>>54099963
>>54100207
sad

so sad to samefag

go back to where you came from to act the cool one

>>54100229
it is, sad

How has no one mentioned how great In a Silent Way is?

>>54100403
Because it has nothing to do with John Coltrane.

>>54100403
Also, somebody mentions it on every single jazz thread.

it also had a lot to do with sales. Selling half a million copies equals great to some critics. Not to mention, it is made of his classic quartet.

>>54100218
>I was listening to that the other day but the only songs
>songs

From wikipedia:

"It is intended to be a spiritual album, broadly representative of a personal struggle for purity, and expresses the artist's deep gratitude as he admits to his talent and instrument as being owned not by him but by a spiritual higher power."

Besides soloing upon variations of the motif, at one point Coltrane repeats the four notes over and over in different modulations. After many repetitions, the motif becomes the vocal chant "A Love Supreme", sung by Coltrane.

"In the final movement, Coltrane performs what he calls a 'musical narration' of a devotional poem he included in the liner notes. That is, Coltrane "plays" the words of the poem on saxophone, but does not actually speak them. Some scholars have suggested that this performance is a homage to the sermons of African-American preachers.The poem (and, in his own way, Coltrane's solo) ends with the cry 'Elation. Elegance. Exaltation. All from God. Thank you God. Amen.' "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Love_Supreme

t is reported that Coltrane, who struggled with repeated drug addiction, derived inspiration for A Love Supreme through a near overdose in 1957 which galvanized him to spirituality. A culmination of much of Coltrane's work up to this point, this four-part suite is an ode to his faith in and love for God."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Coltrane