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pretty good albums

>TMR
Overrated but ok
>Rock Bottom
I personally don't care for Robert Wyatt's music but I can see the merit
>Faust
No
>VU & Nico
Sure
>Scaruffi in general
No

I love Rock Bottom, couldn't give a shit about the others even though they're good

Albums I can listen to with my friends at parties.

>>54065516
>saying no to Faust but yes to the VU and Nico

>>54065404
The s/t isn't even the best Faust album

he's great
rock bottom is a 8/10 but still

>no Popol Vuh

Rock Bottom is pretty bad imo.

Listened to it the other day and couldn't make pas t the 3rd song because of how bad it was.

>>54065946
plen

>>54065946
its fucking beautiful do you have ears

>>54065962

>>54065995
seriously though, he's a pretty bad singer and I hate music that's dissonance only for the sake of it.

faust and tmr are both lame as hell

other 2 are alright

'no'

>>54065516
>faust
>no
pleb alert
>>54065575
it is by a long shot

>the last album to get a 9/10 from scaruffi was from 1993
damn...

>>54066426
Well-Oiled came out in 97...

>>54066484
damn...

>scaruffi didn't think a single album that came out since 1997 is a 9/10
damn...

have a sad cum bb

>>54066560
damn...

>>54065881
hosianna mantra is Srcuffy's #5. OP probably decided not to include it because it's a generally well-liked and non-controversial album among /mu/tants

>>54067345
VU&Nico is also well-liked and non-controversial among non-shitposters.

>>54067345
No the Doors s/t is #5

>>54067378
but 'Lou Reed / talentless hack' is a legit meme on /mu/. I'd say it's a pretty controversial album

>>54065404
What instrument does he play again?

>>54067569
Taken from his site (http://www.scaruffi.com/phi/syn21.html):
>The value of art depends on the values of the art critic.
>Most art is born as imitation, not innovation.
>The critic, not the artist, is the one who defines innovation, and rates it.
>The artist is merely a vehicle for the aesthetic/ideology of the critic.
>The critic is the real artist.

In other words he is the artist for listening, that is his instrument

>>54067861
bullshit

>>54067861
>The artist is merely a vehicle for the aesthetic/ideology of the critic.

oh for fucks sake, lel

>>54067861
>The critic is the real artist.
That's hilarious, I had to look for myself to believe he said that. I agree with most of his music tastes, however.

>>54065404
No, those are his top 4 "rock" albums.

That's not Robert christgau

All those albums are great though.

>>54065404
they are the top 4 rock albums of all times

he probably thinks there are myriad classical albums better than those

Rock Bottom a shit

>>54065404
He's not educated in music, so who gives a flying fuck?

>>54067861
This is fucking disgusting. Like, I hated the an before, but now I almost his hands removed.

>>54068278
>a degree in theory is more valuable than 100,000 albums listened and hiking every mountain in the world

get your priorities straightened

>>54068379

I've be listened to a bunch of albums, and hiked a bunch of trails throughout california. Guess I should start up my own review site

>>54068379
It is, he thinks The Beatles suck and The Doors don't.

>>54068428
Don't bother, I doubt you have half as much insight to share as Lord Scaruffi

>>54068428
I am looking forward to your history of rock music.
Honestly.

>>54067861
>The critic is the real artist

Jesus Christ, what an asshole.

>>54067861
Try not to think of this as Piero's ego decimating all the world and every art, but rather Piero's empathy empowering every reader into a state of individual moment of enlightened euphoria*.

*I am aware of the memetic associations of this term but your criticism will override all previous intentions and dogmas

You forgot The Doors.

>>54067345
hosianna mantra is scaruffi's #8 you uncultured autistic retard

>>54068455
because the beatles do suck and the doors are actually good

Opinions that are based on more experience are still just opinions.

>>54069769
>nobody knows if it really happen

>People hating on wyatt
neo /mu/...how the mighty have fallen. It's one of the most gorgeous records of all time, it's pretty straight forward and beautiful.

>>54067861
you realize when he says "critic" he's not talking about himself, right? he's talking about the person perceiving the art, whether that's him or you or me

>>54065404
>the most educated man in music criticism history
He has none.

>someone who's listened to more music than the entirety of /mu/ combined
(not true by the way)

>>54065575
retard

> scaruffi is antohny fantanos father
...damn

His favourite the Black Saint and the Sinner Lady fucboi.

>>54065404
>rock critic
>education
vev

>>54069875
even for prog rock it's ostentatious hogwash with horribly dated timbre

people here defend it because of scruffy. I can see someone enjoying the record (although I sure don't), but it's light years away from best anything

Rocky Bottom (best thing Nick Mason has done) > TVU&N > TMR

Feel weird putting Faust anywhere.

>>54070095
>doesn't even post album name correctly

I'm just further convinced all "love" for that record is contrarianism

Am I the only one who loves reading his hiking stuff?

>>54070117
You've listened to Rock Bottom, right?

>>54070145
>>>/out/

>>54070176
Fucking triplords.

>>54070039
this
if he actually knew about music, he'd never listen to rock

>>54070284
I'm not saying I love Wyatt or think he's the best ever. I'd just rather listen to Rock Bottom than TVUN or TMR.

Again, Faust is too weird to compare to the others.

>>54070301
Welcome to my filter faggot.

>>54070301
>too weird
teenage girl detected. you forgot your "xD" though.

>>54070301
Trout Mask Replica which invented furries is weirder than Faust.

>>54066521
I agree with him

>>54070402
Do you have an idea as to why that has happened?

>>54070301
>too weird


you might have autism

>>54070339
You sure showed me

>>54070341
I like Faust, but it is a strange record.

>>54070344
Not really.

>>54070417
I just dont think any albums past 1997 have been a 9/10.

I don't line up with his tastes exactly, but most modern music kind of sucks


accoridng to pitchfork the #2 album of the 2000s was Funeral lol

>>54070445
>implying no MBDTF

>>54070480
i'd give that album a 7 or an 8. too many mediocre songs

So according to the most educated and experienced man in /mu/ history, and someone who's listened to more music than the entirety of /mu/ combined, these are the top 4 albums of all times.

>>54071015
But thats not Scooters best album.

>>54065404
Trout Mask Replica 7/10
Rock Bottom 9/10
Faust 10/10
VU&N 10/10

Pretty fucking good choices all round

>>54065404
I like scruffy, and for the longest time I disagreed with these top 4 in particular (I loved many of his other highly rated albums) and thought that he was off his rocker.

Eventually I came to love VU&N and especially Rock Bottom. I also really like TMR, but I think Safe As Milk is better. As for Faust s/t, I think it's an okay album, but not anywhere near my top 4. I think Scaruffi values poetic verse and symbolic arrangement of passages more than I do, and that's why he loves Faust s/t and TMR.

I don't buy a lot of his ratings, and he can definitely be pretentious as fuck, but he's at least a hell of a lot better than p4k, fantano or especially christgau. Plus the dude has been to like 140 different countries, curated intellectual events at acclaimed universities, and listened to tens of thousands of albums in a critical mindset, So I find it hard not to value his opinion.

>>54071015
L I T E R A L L Y who?

>>54071205
he doesn't even plays/writes/even knows the most entry level of theory so I find it pretty easy to not value his opinion.

>>54071259
this

>>54071259
talk shit, post taste

what are your top 4

>>54071230
him
>>54071053

>>54071464
why? just so you can say my taste sucks?

fine I don't care.

Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
Beach Boys - Smile Sessions
Sly & The Famile Stone - There's a Riot Goin On
Caetano Veloso - Transa

what's yours?

>>54065404

Solid top 4, although I really can't into TMR. TVU&Nico is my personnal fav.

>>54065404
Listened to more dadrock maybe

>>54071546
Nah, I'm not a dick, just curious.

Mine:
Can - Tago Mago
King Crimson - Larks' Tongues in Aspic
Keiji Haino - I Said, This Is the Son of Nihilism
Popol Vuh - In den Gärten Pharaos

>>54071617

mynigga

TVU&Nico
Swans - SFTB
Can - Tago Mago
Popol Vuh - HM

IDGP has been my fav for a long time, but I recently broke up with my ex and HM became a pussyfuck replacement for my dick-ears.

>>54065404
Faust is ye but everything else is maybe or no.
Captain beefheart comes close.

>>54065404
>So according to the most educated man in music criticism history
LMAO how about being educated in MUSIC instead of SCIENCE?

>>54069969
Yeah, that's still fucking terrible you knob.

>>54071015
2 of those aren't even music.

>>54073267
Which 2?

>>54071546
Nice taste

>>54068455
he doesn't think the Beatles suck, he thinks they're massively overrated. Big difference.

Hi, guys. Scaruffy here. AMA

>>54075193
What are you planning to listen to next

>>54075193
Why do you hate John, James, George and Richard so much?

>>54067485
also a relatively non controversial album on /mu/

>>54067556
nobody actually thinks lou is a talentless hack (inb4 >i do), that's just a funny mee mee. the album itself isn't really controversial at all; the velvet underground was the first alternative rock band and would go on to spawn the entirety of the punk/alt rock/indie scene. their influence is known here. their first album is a masterpiece, and is usually considered sub /mu/core.

what is the worst scaruffi-core album and why is it this?

Trout Mask Replica is the worst album i've ever heard

What's the worst scaruffi-core and why is it this?

>>54068074
much love for the christgau

reminder that scaruffi likes korn lmao

>>54075455
its either that or royal trux's twin infinitives

>>54068074
i can't hate the man, i just cant

how can you even say what albums are the best for everyone if everyone has their own tastes?

>>54075983
didnt he give spiderland a C-?

>>54076149
Ya. Christgau is >>54076149
the worst

Regardless of how much music he's listened to, he's just some guy. His opinion means no more than the opinions of most /mu/tants.

>>54076327
>shit plebs think

>>54076327
Most of /mu/ are 15 - 17, have listened to the radio and the essentials, can't play an instrument and have been to less live shows than Scaruffi has had hikes.

I think he's an idiot but he objectively has a better opinion than a teenage angst filled Death Grips listening schoolkid like most of /mu/

>>54065404
2/4

>>54071015
1/3

>>54071546
1/2

>>54071617
1/2

>>54071685
1/4

>>54066521
He gave a joanna newsom album a 9

>>54076506
the faggot youre responding to will probably respond to your post with something along the lines of "muh subjectivity xD"

he also probably listens to sufjan stevens and arcade fire and thinks they're godtier

fuck the world with a long dick!

>>54076541
no he didnt you fucking retard he gave hoom an 8.5

>>54076545
If music was objective, everyone would like the same bands.