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Who here likes Brendon Small?

Galaktikon is one of my favorite albums.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntXdGTuInxU

who here is /cautiouslyoptimistic/ that this thing can churn out tones close enough to the real thing?

Anyone have experience with Sterling guitars? Really interested in the JP 100D and would like to know how it compares to the EBMM counterpart.

I want to have sex with this

>>53741117
owner of a silo 20 from when the brand launched. lovely guitar, but the stock pickups were shit. i'd imagine the JP solves that issue since they come equipped with JP's sig pickups.
used to have a guitar with JP's equipped, but I didnt like their tone range. great for high gain, only decent in cleans imo

>>53741151
I never found those appealing. They just look ugly as shit

>>53741151
It would be extremely painful

>>53741191
I bet you look ugly as shit

should i cop?

http://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B009F7XUG0/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1424422930&sr=8-3&keywords=e+gitarre&pi=AC_SY200_QL40&dpPl=1&dpID=41n0xJTjGUL&ref=plSrch

Which guitar is the most versatile in terms of genres it is suited for?

>>53741628
Has anyone even gone so far as..........

>>53741628
don't get something with active pickups and you're pretty much set to play anything you want.

Should I get a Germanium or Silicon face?

>>53741191
>>53741191
>caring that much what it looks like

only guitar players... I can't imagine an organ player or a saxophonist or a bongo player dismissing an instrument because it looks slightly different from what they're used to.

a tele essentially just looks like a flat les paul. any more nitpicking based on how pretty it is pretty much qualifies you as a fag who is just trying to assemble an outfit

>>53741915
The saxophone is one of the most sexy looking instruments there is.

>>53741787
Depends on what kind of fuzz you want

>>53741915
I play sax, and I couldn't stand playing anything that's silver or that shitty black gold. Now if Cannonball made something with blue lacquer, i'd probably sell my 70's strat for it

>>53741915
Because there are a whole bunch of saxophone or bongo designs.

>>53740984
he's great. he's the reason i bought my first explorer. just so happened to be a thunderhorse

>>53740931
I play an Ibanez AS 80 and inherited my Grandpa's Gibson J45, Tend to never play it though and only bring it out on Family Gatherings and stuff. I think its from 56? Original hard case with pink interior to boot.

Also have an ESP Viper 256p that I wanna get rid of, and a Fender FA 125S That I actually do play regularly.

Would love to get another Ibanez though currently my Favorite.

I've been playing for about 3 years now and listen to alot of Classic Rock and Punk. Jack White, Tony Iommi, and Johnny Ramone are some of the guitarists that I really like and try to cover, with vary degrees of success.

Pic related. its the exact same as my J45

>>53741628
Go for the Fender Modern Player Telecaster Plus. Its got a tele neck pickup and a strat's middle and bridge pickups. Best guitar I own.

>>53742456
I seriously hope you're running a humidifier and not storing that thing in the case or with the strings off. Then you have to get nitro safe hangers and keep it away from UV because nitrocellulose is a bitch. Welcome to the wonderful world of vintage acoustics.

>>53743204
Don't forget never play them.

>>53743260
This is standard procedure for any guitar reselling for over 3 grand and many under it. You can play it all you want, but having it in a case and especially not at the right temperature and humidity kills the guitar. If you didn't know, guitars are made of wood, and wood dries out and cracks.

>>53741151
This arrives today. Will post pics.

Should I buy a banjitar?

>>53743411
It's your money, go ahead

Posted a clip of one of my tones a day or two ago and you guys seemed to really dig it. Found this in-room recording of my old live rig doing the same sort of tone. Enjoy I guess.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1VzkjOWZ7is

>>53743489
Fucking sick dude

>>53743204
If you're not playing it for a prolonged period then it's perfectly okay to remove the tension on the neck.

>>53743557
I've heard the opposite and seen the results of storing without tension. It's okay for a few months but can involve surgery if stored like that for years. More important is to put on elixers if you're going to store it, especially in a case, so you don't rust out the frets from contact with shit strings.

>>53743601
Nah, it's best to remove the tension from acoustics. not only for the neck, but for the soundboard.

All that tension continually pulling on the board can warp it, especially if stored for years.

>>53743601
If you store with tension on for years and years the bridge will eventually pull off.
The neck can develop a bit of a bow too.
Unless the place you're storing the untensioned guitar is constantly changing in temperature and humidity then you won't ever see any issues develop.
Reasonable temp and humidity is about 70F and 45% humidity.

>>53743636
>>53743646
Not that guy, the remember a truss rod creates counter tension to the strings. Without any tension pulling against it you'll get warping from the truss rod.

Thoughts on this tone I'm working on?
http://a.pomf.se/kydrri.wav

>>53743660
Then remove the relief the truss rod is giving.
It's not rocket science.

>>53743676
Yeah you know how retarded other 'musicians' can be. They will break two strings and put the thing away in a case in in the basement for 10 years and wonder why the neck is warped to shit when they pull it out.

Let's play a game. Guess what guitar and what amp I used to record this.

Winner gets nothing.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ygZfFZF9SQ

>>53743842
>Using a site that has lower quality audio than an MP3

I'd guess a guitar with a med-high output humbucker and a distortion pedal into the clean channel of an amp?

>>53742456
What's wrong with the AS 80? I have pic related (not my pic though) and played in a hardcore punk and ska band back in high school about 7-8 years ago. Never had a problem with unwanted feedback and it nailed the distorted and clean tones.

What else are you looking for in a guitar?

>>53740984
>>53742347
Can we take a moment to appreciate how fucking good The Deathstar Requiem was?

I just got the fender mustang II v2 for my first amp/practice amp. Is there any better options in that price range (under $250)?

/gg/ help me. I got an amp from guitar center said I wanted to sound heavy like dimebag. this sounds fucking gay tho.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1iMTGfSgLMO

>>53744100
sounds more like chuck schuldiner

>>53744100
A tone like that would be considered death metal to Allan Holdsworth

>>53744120
Well chuck sounded better than dimebag. Dime really had awful tone, those krank amps were just terrible.

>>53743663
I dig it, anon. Only crit is that it might be getting a bit too much distortion around 8 secs when you play the chords quickly. I'd like them to be a bit more clear and articulate. What are you using?

I have 3 electric guitars but none of them have single coils and I've always wanted something like the 4th position in a Strat. Just took out the screws in my bridge humbucker in a MIM Strat I have and going to test that out now.

>>53744133
Dime only used the Kranks like right before he died. He used Randall Centuries/Warheads before that with a fuck-ton of EQ'ing

>>53741191
I agree. Looks like a beluga whale. Wouldn't mind owning one though.

Yes, I'm also ugly as shit.

>>53744100

>>53744144
He was a good player but I always thought his tone just sounded tinny and shitty

>>53744120
i no wtf dont want 2 sound lik that fag.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1XrsCOMf6nF

>>53744132
holdsworth is a shitty thordendal

>>53744188
It was unique though gotta give him that

>>53744137
An LTD EC guitar with humbuckers plugged into this thing, only amp and cab simulator, no effect.
I'm working with a kind of an internet big band with tons of brass and wind instruments so I want my sound to cut through the mix a bit without fucking up the other stuffs, hence the little bit of distortion.

>>53744190
And Thordendal is a shitty Steve Vai

>>53744179
bro taping is sweet

http://vocaroo.com/i/s18QFmEw1dM0

>tfw sold my shitty fuzz pedal to buy pic related

What's a dece cheap rat clone to replace it with as soon as I get payed? Been looking at chicago stompworks stuff, seems ok for $50-100

>>53743958

Close.. I run an Ibanez RGR321EX into S-Gear.

>>53744438
bro ibanez is sik my lead tone slayers

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1uINrp8GvgM

How long would you guys say it took you to become proficient at guitar from the time you first started playing?

>>53743489
noice

>>53744318
Isn't the real rat pretty cheap on its own?

>>53744541
Chords-3-4months
Pentatonic soloing- 6 months
Finger picking- 6-9 months
Riffing-12 months

I play everything by ear and the first few years when I was 14 or 15 id sit down and listen to something like an entire 311 album and just figure it out. I'm not on a Petrucci level or anything but I can play most stuff. I took lessons for about 5 years from 4 different teachers total, a rock guy, a metal guy, a classical guy and a jazz guy. It helped round out my playing but for the last 8 years or so I haven't improved much.

>>53744629
Yeah, the rat 2, but im looking for an older rat clone

>>53744541
Depends on how much you practice. You can git gud in a year or so by playing erryday

Saga BM300, gypsy jazz D-hole guitar
made in 90s, they dont make these anymore.

action at 2 mm, found this in a hard case, in my attic. sounds like nothing i've ever played.

>>53744318
Is that a Cub10? What is your opinion on it?, Want a cheap practice tube amp and didn't have the chance to try Laneys yet.

>>53746068
If you're looking for a cheap tube amp, the cub's fine. Buy used and they're a bargain. Try to get an older 12r (with a stock celestion speaker), those are actually pretty great.

>>53744541
The thing that helped me the most was having the guitar in my lap any time I was on the computer. We waste a lot of time during the day and having easy access will give you a lot more practice time in the beginning.

>>53747346
This. I left my guitar by my PC, so after twenty minutes, I'd get bored and inevitably pick it up instead.
I wouldn't say I'm proficient but I feel like I've improved in the time since I started playing two years ago. I guess it would probably help if I knew more music theory and I actually did more exercises.

>>53747537
>tfw pc desk chair has arm rests
>can't do computer stuff with guit on lap because of them
>have to sit on a much less comfortable chair for playing
If I don't fix this I might just stop playing without realizing.

>>53746337
Not that guy, but would the cub10 be a big upgrade from a line 6 spider IV?

Roy Buchanan is consisted pretty much the king of the telecaster. His tone is godly bordering on god awful. Do teles just always sound bad when you do anything besides simple accompaniment?

>>53748292
Wtf teles have great tone.

>>53748342
Post some examples

Is the EHX Bass Soul Food a good bass overdrive? From what I've heard of it its more subtle than what I've been used to before. I regret buying an ODB-3 and basically having another fuzz pedal.

>>53744005
Oh There's nothing wrong with it, but the one I have is a friends but its been at my place for about 2 years now and would love to actually own my own.

I just like the sound of a hollow body electric and the feel of the AS 80's neck it just seems more comfortable to play. Which is the main reasons I wanna get rid of my ESP.

>>53743204
No it has strings on, I'm not' 100% retard when it comes to storing my guitars, but whats wrong with keeping it in the case??

>>53741151
>I want to have sex with this

>buy an Ana Hole from J-List
>measure it's circumference
>drill hole in guitar so A-Hole fits snugly
>insert Ana Hole
>have at it

If people ask about the hole, you can say it's from your penis.

>>53745995

Here's some Gypsy Jazz

Lennor's Tale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFt1aV21D8A

>>53741628
It's certainly not a LES PAUL.

>>53741940

>>53741940
Not fond of the female form?

>>53740984
brendon small is the fuckin man. love all his music. metalocalypse is fuckin great too

>>53747946
undoubtedly, the spider series are amongst the worst amps available

>>53749647
Muh fat soulful tone

Is there a bass equivalent of justinguitar by any chance?

>>53749908
jerrybass

>>53750130
Th-thanks

>>53750180
I'm sorry

>>53749908
studybass.com was what I used to get started
Scotts Bass lessons are also pretty good. I suggest the free videos on youtube, but you can also subscribe to him on his site for more information.

>>53749113
David Gilmour recorded the dogs solo with a tele.
Jimmy Page recorded stairway with a tele.

Here's a good live example. Sorry for the mobile link.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s7V5-O8Zk2k

>>53749735
>>53749703
he said sexy, not tacky

>>53747825
Definitely. Forgot to say in my original post that you should get a chair without arms or with arms that would be conducive to you playing guitar in it.

A lot of the first few years I spent with my guitar I spent chugging through a bunch of theory, songs and exercises at my computer because it was really easy to run out of shit to do. I took advantage of a lot of my free time while in high school but I still wish I could've done more. I'm catching up now more after getting out of uni and with 4chan being (somewhat) less entertaining and time-wasting than it was before.

>>53749286
Oh, didn't know that context. Definitely head to a store and try out as many Artcores as you can. They're really reasonably priced but may have gone up a bit in the past few years. The only thing I'd change about mine is the pickups but I'm unsure as to what I should get.

Can you ask to buy the one you have now off of your friend?

>>53750556
First two are great examples. More like that? I would add Joe Walsh on hotel California

>>53751741
Not a steely dan fan?

>>53747825
Stop making excuses for your laziness. I play on a chair with arms every day.

Would a guitar with only a volume pot function? I have a peavey strat collecting dust that I'm trying to make usable again. Unfortunately my soldering iron is a piece of shit and soldering things to the pickup selector is proving to just be a pain. I would just be using the neck pickup if that makes any difference

>>53752611
bridge pickup I mean

friend gave me a shure pg48 for free.
never had an xlr mic before, how do I connect it to computer? just find an adapter?

>>53753039
You need an interface.

>>53752611
yeah. Solder's only job is to keep connections held together once they're secure. If you can crimp all the wires and lugs permanently, then there's no need for your iron. Melting lead is normally just the easiest solution.

Sorry for no picture.

I own
>Mexican made standard strat -ash body/rosewood finger board.I think it's an early 2000's model.Bought it for around $200.
>Marshall mg100dfx-Got it free,otherwise it's shit.
>Misc basic effect pedals


I basically just want to upgrade on what I have,by getting an egnater amp or really any good high end valve amp and get a better strat with a good trem system and locking floyd rose.I've also been looking at duncan rail series pickups.

The electric guitar/guitarists are funny. What kind of guitar is Jimmy Page playing on Tea For One? Some swear it's a Les Paul, some say it sounds like a strat (which he did use for much of the album), and others say it's his Telecaster. All three have convincing arguments. I think this is evidence that it truly is about the Indian not the arrow.

Another example is George Harrison's solo on Something. Casino, Strat, Les Paul, Tele, SG, who knows...

>>53744318
Bumping question with another shitty phone shot of my new guitar.

>>53753296
>good trem
>Floyd rose

What song should I play next? Something smooth that I can play for/with friends on acoustic and which will also make me develop.

>>53753640
it really depends on what you like and how good you are right now

>>53753687
I'm medium but played a few years. Throw everything at me that you guys have played or are playing. I like everything except those super cheesy acoustics guys.

What makes a guitarist "good" in your eyes?
To me, a good guitarist (or a good musician) is a musician who can sit down with any other musician and play with them with minimal practice beforehand. If you can imagine something then play it like you want it, you are a good musician. It's not a matter of dexterity or quality in my opinion.

>>53753233
in that case, where would I solder the red wire from the pickup to? I see that the black wire goes to the bottom of the volume pot, but the red one goes to the pickup selector

>>53753807
Music is a creative process. If you're well versed in a wide variety of techniques to approach writing or accompanying then the rest is just showing up and plugging in.

"Good" doesn't mean a lot to me this late in the game. I like to hear people play in a few of my favorite styles, play with inventive tones, and throw in surprises.

>>53753807
Yeah I pretty much agree with you. Good guitarists can adequately express themselves through the guitar and know their way around the instrument enough play what the imagine in their head.

This is all my gear. Not that great, expensive or eccentric. It's funny cause my amp actually sounds a lot better than most of my friend's marshall's.

I would absolutely love to get better recording devices. I only use a Shure SM57 and crappy Audacity.

Have been playing for 5 years.

I don't have a favorite guitar brand, and I don't have a favorite guitarist.

I want to get some recording and signing classes, and start making music. I'm really working on making a tribute album for a band.

>>53753947
Anything wired to the back of a pot is called a ground. These are simply to complete your circuit (returning current to the pickups).

Red signal out is wired directly to a volume lug, and then leaves from the center wiper lug. The third volume lug is grounded to the pot casing to form a voltage divider.

How would I go about learning to play a more niche style of music like let's say, post-punk or screamo?

>>53741191
Aesthetics aren't the aim with a telecaster. If you get past looks they are the most rewarding guitar platform out there.

That being said I think they look great

>>53754305
>post punk
palm muted power chords with reverb?
>screamo
distorted power chords

>>53751741
>>53752011
My old school has some of the tastiest tele tone i've ever heard, wait for the lead breaks after the first chorus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq8OU-7JDFA

>>53753807
A good guitarist can play the shit as written and make it sound the way it should in the least amount of time as possible. If all you can do is read sheet music and and comp chords, but play them with precision, you're better than anyone with some pothead vision who can't keep up with the beat.

The forte of the guitar is harmony, and being able to make something that works for the melody is the key skill. I'm not saying lead is secondary or wasted, but should be based in the knowledge of harmony that comes with the instrument. One should know their place and exceed elsewhere because of their mastery of it.

>>53753431
Well at least be nice and tell me what you think is good,because the internet says floyd roses are good...

Dirtboxes that span the full range of distortion a la Fulltone Catalyst?

>>53755538
>implying anyone whose entire argument is a reaction image know anything

>>53755579
I guess,but it feels more like a secret I'm not in on as I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to gear.

>>53755538
Not him, but Kahler is considered an alternative on par with FR.

>>53755635
I haven't looked into it too much, but I remember hearing that floyd roses are just hard to get set up perfect. Goes out of tune a lot, and shit like that until you get it right.

>>53755635
Anything anyone paid full price for will be the best in their eyes. All trems are shit and go out of tune in a second, its a question of how shit and if they have a locking nut/tuners and bridge.

>>53746337
Have a 12R and it's killer for all styles.
Replacing the Rocket 50 with an Emi CV-75 though

>>53755667
Jesus that's an abomination on a guitar like that. Only second to putting a locking tremolo on a hollow body archtop.

>>53755538
not that anon, but I dislike locking trems due to them being a pain in the ass to work with and the way they sort of choke the tone out of the strings (at least to my ears anyways).

there arent many "bad trems" (flloyd rose clones and bigsby clones are up there), fender's trems are decent, real bigsbys with roller bridge are great imo.

>>53755734
>locking tremolo on a hollow body archtop.
i doubt the top would even be able to handle that

>>53754638
Steely dan are fucking awesome. I have a bunch of Donald fagen solo records, great music too but lacking the stellar guitar of Becker.

>>53755734
damn, i was just about to slap a black floyd rose on my 5th ave kingpin...

>>53755734
That's funny, because the oldest SG models had tremolo bridges on them.

>>53755753

>>53755819
is that a semi hollow though?

>>53755804
Not LOCKING tremolo. Big difference.

>>53755804
some of them still do

>>53755837
At least, it's got the f holes.

>>53755880
well yes, but its a semi hollow. thats different. i said that a hollowbody probably wouldnt handle a locking trem.

>>53755899
Does a full hollow not have a solid piece in the middle for the pickups and bridge to mount?

>>53755734
What's your opinion on Evertune bridges then?

>>53755734
>>53755804
>>53755879
gibson has actually released SGs with stock FRs at points in time

Just got a (possibly) broken beta bass on ebay. What do you guys know about impedance with solid states. Am I safe going 100w 4ohm head into 140w 8ohm cab? Internet research indicates yes, but I want to make sure with people I can actually talk to and make sure I understand before I wreck any shit.

>>53755932
I've had 0 experience with them

>>53755937
Cough cough

>>53755930
yea, fully hollow. that why the bridge isnt pinned into the body and sometimes the pickups arnt actually mount in the wood of the guitar but on a mount floating over

>>53755937
and les pauls, hell they still sell les pauls with FR's dont they?

>>53755989
Yerp
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-Custom/Les-Paul-Axcess-Standard.aspx

>>53755989
probably

>>53741151

I never understood the appeal of Teles. Maybe I've just played the wrong ones. The Mexican ones are shit anyway.

https://clyp.it/tchyzarj
here's my project at the moment.

What is the best reverb pedal for ambient?

I've been looking at the
Hardwire RV-7
Hardwire Supernatural
EC Electronics Hall of Fame
Boss RV-3 (secondhand only, natch)
Boss RV-5

>>53750584
>>53749735
>>53749703

>>53756050
Although it doesn't sound amazing I can vouch that Hardwires are built like miniature tanks. If you play shows frequently I'd recc it.

>>53756050
>best
its personal preference. i would probably get the rv7 out of those ones. alternatively you could pick up a slightly older rack unit dirt cheap and have tons more options. just depends on if a rack format works for you

>>53756050
not a fan of the hall of fame myself, been wanting to buy a supernatural for a while now actually but just havent had the spare bills to grab one the past few months

>Gear:
Schecter Hellraiser C7 Special
Hamer XT Vector
Schecter Stiletto Custom 6 Bass
Ashton AB-2 bass
Ashton Acoustic
Line 6 POD HD500x
Matrix GT 800FX
Hughes & Kettner TM212
Albion TCT35c (broken)
Ibanez TS-9
Hardwire TL-2
ZOOM G1XN (Used as a backup along with the Hardwire)
Avid MBOX 3
TSE X50 (Plug-in)

>Desired Gear:
BMT Custom 7 string Telecaster (Being made)
After that I feel set for the next 5 years or so

>How long?
8 years seriously

>Fav Guitars?
I really like my Hellraiser, but my favorite shapes are the Jackson Kelly (For the child me) and the telecaster (for the adult me). I really like Flying V's too but I can't sit with them unless the input jack in like a Gibson's.

>Fav guitarists
Scott Hull, Dave Davidson, Joe Pass, George Van Eps, John Williams, Marty Friedman, Ron Jarzombek, Bob Brozman, Mendel Bij De Leij, Johnny Marr

>Projects?
we're just waiting for EZ Drummer to here to record and actual demo. Meanwhile my more computer stuff goes here https://soundcloud.com/bionic_rooster

>>53756057
That's a new one. I could imagine that being an interesting gimmick lol.

>>53740931
I want a JM66
I want a fucking baritone squier Jazzmaster
I want a Nashville tele
I want a Hot rod deluxe.

Damn i wish i could travel to the US to buy shitloads of gear right now but i have to wait till summer comes ;c

>>53756122

Is it too "digital" sounding? I thought the Tone Print option might be cool, especially since Jonsi from Sigur Ros created one for them. As did Sun Rose Wagner.

So they're doing two floorboards now, one for amps and one for FX
http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/gear-equipment/290148-fractal-announces-axefx-ax8-floorboard-amps-effects.html

>>53756050
Admittedly I don't have any experience with any of those, but the EQD afterneath + dispatch master are both pretty cool

>>53756356
i wouldnt say too digital sounding, though the sterility in the tone contributes to me not caring for it. to me none of its verbs really stand out, they're all acceptable but none are great to my ear. the tone print might be neat, but let me put it this way, do any of the line 6 artist presets actually sound good?

but as >>53756085 said, its personal preference. some people love the HoF. it really isnt a bad pedal, just to my ear theres better out there.

Pet peeves at guitar stores?
>salesman in a mom and pop who follows you around trying to sell you everything
>>also talking about his kids and how great their business is
>>he never leaves you alone
>ugly scene girls who hang around ugly scene guys playing scenecore in mobs on ukuleles, cheap acoustics and BC Rich/Charvel guitars way too loud
>the glares you get for pushing the volume on a Blues Jr past 0.5 when trying out a pedal
>the store only has Squiers lining the walls
>"We have lessons here" "Wanna sign up for lessons?" "Our guy Pat is a great guitar teacher" "Lessons?"

>>53756675
The mom and pop music store guys don't make commission. That guy's probably just an idiot.
When someone walks in, I just want to know what they're after so I can help them better, maybe start a small conversation to break the ice.
Ask them what they play, what they're looking for in the future.

>>53756675
My local one:
>Walk in
>greasy Jewish used-car salesman immediately tries to sell me a solid tantee Randall half-stack for $2000.
>After I say not interested for the millionth time directs me to a 1x12 6505 combo for $3000
>Then directs me to a Peavey JSX with a broken lead channel for $3500

And people wonder why I absolutely hate that store, the clerks don't know two shits about guitar/drums or instruments in general and treat you like a child who doesn't know what they want.

The Yamaha music a 5 minute drive near the harbour are much better and the clerks know their shit and don't inflate their prices like it's priced in Zimbabwean dollars

>>53756870
I ended up getting some picks and strings just so I wouldn't feel like I loitered. It was 3 old guys working in there and I might have asked to try out some MXR pedals if they hadn't been glaring

>>53756675
>>the glares you get for pushing the volume on a Blues Jr past 0.5 when trying out a pedal
>>the store only has Squiers lining the walls
>>"We have lessons here" "Wanna sign up for lessons?" "Our guy Pat is a great guitar teacher" "Lessons?"
This is why I started shopping online. My store is more commoditzed and all of that is worse. That and them trying to sell shit I don't need that doesn't even work with my shit. I hate to see small business go, but not this one. Also, the things they think I need to pay a repair guy to do make me kek.

>>53756870
The only small businesses still in business are run and staffed by the biggest jews and greasiest used car salemen in training on earth, for the most part. I can think of more stores run like a global bank than I can a place I want to shop. The only time I haven't felt this way besides guitar center are places dealing exclusively in high end shit.

>>53757057
Where do you live where those things cost that much?

Assuming you're talking about the 6505+ 112, that's $600 American dollars last I checked.

>>53757057
>new guitar store opened near house
>go take a look
>all cheap ass classical and acoustic guitar
>didn't even go in

>>53757203
Australia, Mesa Boogie dual Rectos here cost around $3000 and Soldano SLO's are $8000 ($13 000 with mod)

>>53757239
Last I checked, the humidified room in my store has maybe 3 guitars that were all solid and the electric side didn't have anything american made or over 500 dollarydoos. The only classical they had was a 3/4 scale yamaha and for being a martin dealer, it was all the trash ones.

Does /GG/ like CGDAEG?

I never realized the importance of scale length. Only usually playing my telecaster, I didn't feel right playing an Epi Sheraton or LP recently. The string tension just made it feel like a whole different animal. Does this make any sense? Or is it something different like body shape/bridge style?

>>53757403
scale length significantly affects string tension.

>>53757357
CGEGBD. Occasionally BGDGAD for one song, but I hate alternate tunings in general.

>>53757403
no it makes perfect sense. after playing my strat for a few months while ignoring my LP, switching was night and day. but it only takes a little while to adjust, for me anyways. fender necks are also slightly wider than gibson/epiphone necks, adding to the contrast.

>>53757438
This is not an alternate tuning. This is New Standard Tuning.

>>53756001
can you really put a price tag on versatility?

>>53755684
As long as you don't have a shit licensed model, Floyds have rock solid tuning stability.

>>53757403
Yes, string tension on a 25.5" scale is a lot stronger than a 24.75" scale.

>>53757463
Sorry. CGEbGBbD. moot ate my unicode.

>>53757478
If only LP's were that versatile maybe

>>53757253
$4500 in SA for a recto. $13000 for an SLO100 with depth mod.

>>53757489
Wait until you go 630mm or lower. You can just lightly rub the strings like you're feeling up your friend while he was asleep at that one sleepover and they sing.

>>53757574
Nah bro, gotta get that combo for $6500

http://www.proaudio.com.au/shoppingcart/products/Mesa-Boogie-Road-King-II-2x12%22-Combo.html

>>53757489
The tension difference is pretty minor honestly. It's noticeable, but tiny.

>>53755961
Should specify Sunn beta bass, but I guess that's redundant. Someone who knows solidstate/sunn help me out!

>>53757610
Not for me, I struggled with bending up to 3 semitones or more on a Tele, but can do the same thing easily on a Les Paul.

Are Blacktop SH Jazzmasters gud?
I'll swap the bridge humbucker out for a normal jazzmaster bridge pup anyway, i just can't afford a classic player right now.

>>53756057
needs a different head...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLy-AwdCOmI

>>53756675
Local music shop/recording studio/mostly old speakers covering everything.
>Good deal right? I build tons of amps and could use a solid store to test speaker combos and buy parts
>need power tubes before a show
$60 for a Bugera pair
>fuck this but fine, buy a quad of Shuguang for 30 online afterwards
try again later
>I have 75-125 and want to match a good speaker for this amp
We don't sell any speakers under $150
>Get fucked mouth breather idiots. You can't move 4 inches in your store without bumping into a clusterfuck of speakers

>>53756057
is that the Gary Glitter model?

>>53757662
A 46 in E has 17.5lbs of tension on a 25.5" and 16.5lbs on a 24.75". That's less than a 10% difference.

It makes a much bigger difference with extremely low tunings like F# Standard.

>>53758403
It can make a huge difference for some people, especially ones that play heavier gauges. Light gaugefags are ones that complain gibsons feel limp.

>>53758403
woah guys we got bill nye here cracking down on whats what!

>>53758598
I'm not saying you won't notice it, but it's pretty minor in most tunings.

On my Les Paul I'm using a 62. I get the same tension with a 60 on a 25.5"

can anyone recommend me a good example of a chord solo?

>>53758670
http://www.jazzguitar.be/wes_montgomery_chord_solos.html

>>53751191
I have but its like his baby.

Even if I couldn't find the exact same guitar I would like to get one that's similar and in the $400 - $500 price range. I've tried some others but haven't found any hollow body electrics that I really like.

What would you buy if you had $2000 to spend on both an amp and guitar for ultimate value and versatility?

>>53759225
American Standard Strat + Deluxe Reverb Reissue.

>>53759260
I'd prefer something with tappable humbuckers.

I know it's a small thing but I hate that amp has a tremolo circuit. Seems like a waste of real estate. I'd prefer a more tweakable EQ.

>>53759341
Then get your own thing. You asked me what I'd buy.

>>53759353
Yeah, I'm trying to get some ideas. I have no idea what to get. Not trying to criticize.

>>53759407
I'd get a Squier Bullet + Fender Frontman amp +15 Boss Metal Zone pedals.

>>53759225
Gibson es-135 and Roland JC-120

(used of course)

>>53759430
>Obligatory

I've been considering getting a metal zone tho for when I want the occasional blast of obnoxious distortion. They're about the cheapest pedals I see on the used market.

>>53757694
They're not bad, but the money you'll spend on upgrading a pickup and pick guard could go towards a better guitar.

You can get used CP for as low as $500 if you're patient.

>>53759447
There was a JC50 for sale for pretty cheap ($280AUD) that I was considering but the back was all rusty and fucked looking and it just seemed more trouble than what it was worth.

I've always been drawn to the JC sound tho (at least the emulations I've tried...)

>>53759225
some vriant of PRS 22 and an orange tiny terror with cab, though i'd have to try a few before I could say which.

>>53759525
I've found that they're usually in pretty good shape even if they look beat up. Solid states hold up much better than tube amps of the same age (with less maintenance)

I have some nice tube amps but these days I just play through my JC-120, it;s the most reliable/less noisy of all them.

>>53759225
A used HSS Fender strat & A line 6 POD HD with a active speaker. Verstatile enough

Is anyone else really fussy about the aesthetics of a guitar? Black, silver, grey, white and natural (lightly oiled) wood are about the only acceptable colours for me. Fancy inlays, abalone binding and coloured pickguards kill it instantly as well.

>>53759647
I've never owned a tube amp so I'm kinda getting sucked into the 'gimmick' of it but at the same time I really want a nice neutral sounding amp that I can put pedals and stuff through without them being too coloured by the amp itself.

>>53749703
looks hard to play

>>53759722
I don't really like fucking around with my gear too much so at this point I'm pretty much solid state for life. With tube amps you have to worry about changing tubes,getting them properly rebiased etc..I have an amp that's going to cost me $600 to get sounding exactly how it did because it needs a new transformer+Filter Caps+ NOS tubes.It's a pain in the ass.

If you want a neutral amp solid state is the way to go.

>>53759917
Any idea what good value (new) solid state combos are out there atm? I also play bass and synths and shit. I'm thinking about just getting a small PA or something instead.

I've been using a 30 watt bass amp but it sounds like shit, the highs are harsh as hell and my drummer gets too loud for it.

>>53759498
Go HM-2 or go home

>>53759995
Funny you mentioned that I was just watching this HM2 shootout with Kurt Ballou today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycByJIaWERk&feature=youtu.be

They go for about 3 times the price and don't have as many EQ options though.

I'm considering getting a J Mascis jazzy.

The pickguard and squire logo disgust me tho.

>>53760183
The guitar player in my last band had one and it sounded really great.I have something against signature guitars,though.

>>53760035
I have a mij HM-2 and am obsessed with Trap Them and Converge. You can find them cheap though. I got mine for 60 on guitar center used. Try that and craigslist and you can get a mij for 60 easily. And having had the hm-2, it's mostly unusable. It can sound good, but it's so hard to dial in the right combination on 4 fucking tone knobs. With the hm-2 at least it's easy to very slightly nudge both tone knobs when they are almost all the way up and just make very slight adjustments to your liking. With the metal zone, you're just making fucking bee sounds. Although to be fair, I'm pretty sure Kurt uses a metal-zone a lot, so who knows.

>>53760183
>J Mascis jazzy
This is a J Mascis "jazzy".

And I'll forever live in remorse because I passed on the chance of getting one of these last year for cheap purely because the body was basswood and the bridge and an adjust-o-matic.

>>53760258
Me too. This doesn't have any obnoxious signatures or pain tjobs or band logo inlays at least. I would trade out the pickguard regardless so that doesn't bother me too much either.

>>53760304
What's wrong with tune-o-matics?

>>53760261
oh shit, i meant that the metalzone is unusable. The hm-2 is usable in like one very specific range where it sounds fucking incredible, but anything else is either so-so or godawful.

>>53760393
I'm really after something versatile more than anything. I'm using a russian big muff at the moment and considering building a fuzz factory kit. Need something in that middle range in terms of obnoxiousness though.

>>53760347
This feel really gets in the way, too.For instance,I've wanted a hollow body for about a year and saw pat metheny playing one in a live show and said,"that's the one!".Got online and it was his fucking signature model.

>pic is it

>>53744056
it was great. seen and listened to it too many times

>>53760491
I mean, I'm sure you can make the HM-2 work. I've read that Gilmour and Jerry Garcia both used them. I can't imagine how, but it's apparently true. I'm just saying, the knobs on both pedals are obnoxiously sensitive and there's so much room for settings no one would EVER want to use EVER.

>>53760511
Don't start making me crave a hollowbody. I need a decent solidbody first you sunnuvabitch.

>>53760563
go semihollow, best of both worlds

>>53760035
MIJ and Dunwich sound the best. The two "Left Hand Path" pedal sounded the worst to my ears.

>>53760651
I wouldn't know what to get anyway.

>>53760563
Same here. My strat is decent,but I'm really suffering for an actual valve amp and then my priority would be a higher end strat.One day I'll have a good hollow body though and I'll be able to pretend I'm a jazzer.

>>53760683
Yo, what are you talking about? LHW is by far the best sounding one.

>>53760688
bc rich is the obvious answer

>>53760694
They're so much thinner sounding. Sounds like a HM-2 with an extra knob to scoop out some mids..

>>53760688
Also,from what I've heard a million people say more than anything is an ES of whatever varying model/time is the most versatile guitar they would recommend.I've actually never had the joy of playing one.

>>53760683
I didn't mind the non-jap boss one either, bit more subtle tho i guess. Pretty much agree with you tho.

Dunwich has 4 band EQ too which might be cool.

>>53760757
pretty much. regret selling my 335 years ago, was a great guitar despite its wear.

>>53760757
You've got me considering one of these now.

>>53760886
am I the only one that first thought the brand name was hagstorm, not hagstrom, which triggered an image of old hags raining from a stormy sky?

>>53760750
There is a mid knob, yes. The Dunwich sounds good on recording, but it seems like the kind of thing that when it's coming out of an amp wouldn't be the best. That high cutting sound that is like the signature HM-2 thing sounds awesome, but if there's too much it seriously hurts to listen to.

>>53760354
It's just that at the time I didn't know much about Jazzmasters and thought that the fact that it wasn't a traditional jazzmaster bridge and the basswood body meant this was a subpar model. Worse than the traditional MIJ Jazzmasters and much worse than a MIA, which has been my goal for so long. I was also misled by PGS to believe the pickups were more similar to P90s than JM pickups (because they fucking called it P90s), which was not the case and they were wrong.

But nowadays they fetch $1,400 and the guy was asking something like $600. And this is Brazil where everything costs twice as much.

I've made some pretty great purchases over the years (pic related) but this is one of the fuck-ups that will haunt me forever. I feel sad thinking about it.

>>53760938
That midscooped sound is the definition of something that sounds shit in a band though. It just becomes a weak fizzy tin can sound with a muddy low end, masking the drums and bass. Guitar lives in the mids.

Hey guys is there a Justinguitar for bass?

Have one laying around I want to pick back up

>>53761080
>Guitar lives in the mids.
So does your vocals, part of your drums and often your bass.

Producers for most styles scoop mids because it better separates everything and makes the guitar sound better in the mix.

The problem is that some, especially inexperienced metal players/producers, go overboard with it and almost remove all the mids.

>>53761107
Thank you for saying this as a defense for me much more eloquently than I could. Scooped mids sound good, you just have to be reasonable. If it sounds muddy, that mids knob allows you to you know, bring mids back...

>>53761054
>. I was also misled by PGS to believe the pickups were more similar to P90s than JM pickups (because they fucking called it P90s


They're literally p90s you fucking idiot. Look at the construction of the pickup.

>>53761269
Disregard this, thought you were talking about the Squier version.

>>53761054
whats the amp head picturted in the bckground behind the ibanez?

>>53761237
Yeah, it's something really easy to notice. When I'm playing by myself, I'm always with my mids boosted because it sounds fucking good.

The minute I try the same in a mix context it sounds terrible and scooping the mids fixes it by bringing balance and harmony between the instruments. You want everything to occupy their own space and sound good together in a mix. Boosting the mids in that scenario will turn the focus of everything to the guitar and kill absolutely everything else, especially vocals that are most often in the same frequency spectrum.

The only occasion where boosting your mids sounds good in a band/mix is when you have a solo, precisely because you want the focus on the guitar.

>>53761269
JM pickups and p90s are very different. The guitar I mentioned has JM pickups but PGS said they were P90s, which I believed.

Think twice before calling others stupid gratuitously.

>>53761349
Yeah, for sure. My amp eq is usually something like bass and treble are most of the way up and mids are about 12 o'clock, but my amp is notorious for having knobs that barely do anything, so it's probably a lot more exaggerated than what I would use on a more standard amp.

Some shredding I did a while back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osx8x_tubCw

My favorite guitar players are buckethead, john mclaughlin, tony macalpine, john frusciante and scott henderson

I'll bet you guys haven't seen one of these before.My boss got one and wouldn't let me play it for more than a moment.

>>53760757
This 100%

>>53761301
AcedoAudio 290. Brazilian, 20w, 3 channels, single ended with KT88 power and 2 12ax7.

I sold it and bought the DRRi. It was kinda shitty.

Has anyone else considered going eurorack instead of a traditional pedalboard and amp set up?

>>53761465
Pretty cool but your boss is a tool, unlike his new guitar.

>>53761349
Clarity (sibilance) in vocals is right at about 1-4kHz tho. Exactly where fuzzy guitars are at their most pronounced. Everything wants to shine through in that range. That's where most instruments have their character. I personally think guitar can do without anything below 200Hz personally. That's where things to start get real muddy.

>>53761465
Looks horrible. Like something you'd dunk in your morning coffee.

>>53761622
He made me wash my hands and he had to put it over my shoulders for me, too.I want a knaggs but I could buy an entirely new rig that would satisfy for the price.

>>53761717
Your boss is a fucking moron. I wouldn't even give him the satisfaction of having my attention over the guitar.

>>53761656
I almost always cut anything guitar below 150~200Hz. It's the absolute muddy zone for me.

>>53761453
>shredding

stop that, no one thinks you're cool

>>53761748
You couldn't begin to imagine.
>>53761678
Here's the same model with a different finish

>>53761839
That's even worse somehow.

>>53761453
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osx8x_tubCw
Why would you record music with such shut audio quality? It's like you just want people to watch instead of listen.

>>53761453
it was somewhat interesting until you started shredding tbh, sounds like a mindlessly Buckethead impression

>>53743349

Recently bought a 1934 Gibson acoustic from the original owner, who hadn't played it since the 70s.

It was stored under a bed in a drafty old farmhouse for many years, and it was still very playable and close to being in tune.

There aren't any hard and fast rules, it can vary.

>>53761620
outside of this thread yes, many have done just that. off the top of my head reznor did for the broken-fragile era, but im not sure to what extent.

>>53761587
looks neat, shame its tone doesnt match its looks

>>53762015
I knew it would've been done. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more. It just seems like a way more interesting way to spend your money.

>>53761054

Are the MIJ JM Jazzmasters actually Jazzmaster pickups or are they simply rehoused strat pickups like they are on normal MIJ jazzmasters.

Started a thread earlier, no responses, so I'll post this here for some help.

Most of my songs I write are usually some form of finger style or basic open chords (G, C, D etc...) and some messing around on scales. They're basic but they're just folky/bedroom stuff for the most part.

What I need help with though is how to write more "rock" or heavier types of guitar playing. Maybe someone could link me somewhere with some interesting chords I could look at or something because I'm clueless other than some power chords. I just want to play something that I could have drums make sense with. Maybe a different tuning I could try (other than drop d). A bit more upbeat and energetic would be nice too.

>>53762047
cost and tradition, its not exactly cheap, and everyone is overly familiar with the standard pedals and amp setup. I too have considered trying it, actually run my guitar through vst synths on my computer frequently, but obviously its not the real thing.
that was part of the allure of the moogerfooger/minifooger line of pedals moog offers, a different way at approaching guitar effects.

>>53762072
Power chords are pretty much just it, or barred Emaj type chords played up and down the neck. Anything much fancier starts to sound like shit under the distortion of heavier styles. Maybe try some simple dyads.

Palm muting and muting power chords with your fingering hand in different rhythms goes a long way.

>>53762072
A, G, and E are all you need to play rock.

>>53762094
Most pedalboards and heads aren't exactly cheap. I see guys running 5+ $300 pedals into a $3000 amp and I can't help but think of all the cool tones you could get in eurorack for that cash. All controllable with expression pedals to boot.

>>53762138
right, but thats the thing. for most, if you have that money, are you gonna get something you know you'll like, or are you going to experiment?
i'm in the same boat as you, but I completely understand the lack of interest in the idea from most players.

>>53762094
>>53762138
I should not I'm not really talking about doing any kind of pitch tracking or pitch dividing or any shit like that either. Just having a variety of filters and other eurorack gizmos would be amazing. That mutable shelves EQ looks way better than anything you see in a guitar amp and it's like 200 odd bucks.

>>53762113
>>53762121
Thx guys. I'll keep these in mind.

>>53760183
I tried one of these in a local music store.
That pickguard was really cool, too bad I didn't have money with me.
Also, why does people feel disgusted about squier? I have three Squier-instruments (acoustic guitar, e-guitar and bass) and they all have worked wonderfully after few modifications. Well, the guitars needed modifications, bass didn't

>>53762167
Have you seen I Dream of Wires? Most of the module manufacturers go on rants about how they used to make guitar pedals but all of the guitarists were too into tradition and they all got frustrated and left the market.

>>53762193
It's pure vanity. I'd just be kinda embarrassed to be seen using it.

>>53762194
i've actually been meaning to see that for a long while now, i just keep putting it on the backburner.
not surprised in the least, there hasnt been really much of any innovation in terms of electric guitar for decades.

happy to see i wasn't the only guitarist on /gg/ who had a great admiration for modular synthesis

>>53761620
ive used synths as amps before. its ok. oliver from APTBS amp is basically that. though he made its so i dont know exactly what everything is

Is the Rat2 worth buying or should I stick out for an older model?

>>53762218
It's definitely worth a watch.

I've been more of a synth guy than a guitar guy the last few years. I'm coming back around though and it's weird. I've started seeing the strings as oscillators and my hands as really unreliable sequencers and modulators.

>>53762222
That's cool as shit. Love to know what's happening there.

>>53762264
rat2, turbo rat and your dirty rat are all fine pedals really.

>>53762266
>I've started seeing the strings as oscillators and my hands as really unreliable sequencers and modulators.
what an interesting way of looking at it, i've never thought along those lines before.
i'll make a point of watching it this weekend, been putting it off too long.

>>53760929
Yes, you're the only one.

>>53761801
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>>53761949
Haters be hating because they couldnt do it if they wanted to.
https://soundcloud.com/totally-tubular
Check out my music, what you wish was mindless shredding actually comes from an enormous expansion of knowledge.

>>53763097
>Haters be hating because they couldnt do it if they wanted to

i can't ram a drumstick up my urethra either but you dont see begging for pointers

>>53763097
>https://soundcloud.com/totally-tubular
If you're so great how come your music doesn't sound good?

>>53763149
>>53763186
Haters will continue to hate until they grow a bigger dick.

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