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>gear
84-86 MIJ Strat, Orange Crush 15, some shitty dean markley bass amp i found at a garage sale before i bought the orange, a cheap Mitchell acoustic, a concert uke and two saxophones (tenor and soprano, i dont know if the belong in thread but i play them as much as my guitars).

>desired gear
A good cheapish spring reverb pedal, acoustic 12 string, a decent babbys first bass, and maybe a classical, and a hollowbody with an obnoxious bigsby
>how long been playing
almost 2 years (saxes for 10)
>fav guitars
Strats

>>53512926
Forgot pic

>Post gear
Yamaha FG-180
Yamaki Martin D-18 Copy

>Post desired gear
A decent capo

>How long have you been playing?

18months
>Fav guitars?
The FG-180, would like a D-28 one day.
>Fav guitarist?
John Fahey

>Projects?
Shitty Bandcamp, working on second EP

>General guitar and bass discussion
Why does everybody on /mu/ start on electric guitar?

FAO psychedelic anon from the last thread.

Why not split that grand between guitar and amp? Your wacky tones will really benefit from a decent amp instead of just digital processing.

>>53512972
>Why does everybody on /mu/ start on electric guitar?
I started on acoustic for a few months because we still had a few at home (mom and dad play guitar, brother plays bass), then hopped onto daddies electric guitar and I found that far more appealing

>>53511672
>no chorus, no reverb, no compression, no gate.
>I write mainly electronic music and those 2 would be great for incorporating my guitar playing with my electronic stuff.
Chorus in my opinion is a really unneccesary effect, same with the gate.

If you're recording, I'd recommend getting good recording gear if you haven't already, and using software for the compression, reverb, gate and chorus. If you need it for live playing, definitely get the reverb and compression pedals first.

The Digitech is pretty shitty but don't have much experience with the other pedal. Also mixing something like a guitar into electronic music and making it sound synthy or really effected takes a lot of time and effort in terms of getting the right tone and mixing. Getting your guitar to sound like a synth is fairly challenging and a few pedals won't solve the problem.

>>53512972
I started with a really shitty ~$130 Washburn acoustic that was horribly intonated but I knew damn well how to barre by the time I got my MIM HH Strat.

>>53513175
What was it like going from acoustic to electric

Did you notice any difference in how good you were

>>53513018
Why is that?
I'd then have to mic up the amp right?
Please excuse my pleb

>Gear:
Schecter Hellraiser C7 Special
Hamer XT Vector
Schecter Stiletto Custom 6 Bass
Ashton AB-2 bass
Ashton Acoustic
Line 6 POD HD500x
Matrix GT 800FX
Hughes & Kettner TM212
Albion TCT35c (broken)
Ibanez TS-9
Hardwire TL-2
ZOOM G1XN (Used as a backup along with the Hardwire)
Avid MBOX 3
TSE X50 (Plug-in)

>Desired Gear:
BMT Custom 7 string Telecaster (Being finished up with pups)
After that I feel set for the next 5 years or so

>How long?
5 years seriously

>Fav Guitars?
I really like my Hellraiser, but my favorite shapes are the Jackson Kelly (For the child me) and the telecaster (for the adult me). I really like Flying V's too but I can't sit with them unless the input jack is like a Gibson's.

>Fav guitarists
Scott Hull, Dave Davidson, Joe Pass, George Van Eps, John Williams, Marty Friedman, Ron Jarzombek, Bob Brozman, Mendel Bij De Leij, Johnny Marr

>Projects?
We're working on a full demo at the moment, just need to get EZ Drummer and we are set to go. Meanwhile my more computer stuff goes here https://soundcloud.com/bionic_rooster

>Discussion
Worst guitar you've ever played?

Mine is a BC Rich NJ Deluxe Warlock, sounded like a muffled fart.

>>53512972
Mine was pic related, was my mums old guitar ey.

>>53513222
yes so you would need guitar+ amp + interface + mic, but you need also need an interface for digital stuff

really depends on how much money you want to spend, decent amp + sm57 or something like that would be another 400-500 bucks or so, + you may need pedals etc.

if you don't need to play live I'd start with digital modeling, you can still buy an amp later

>>53513189
I struggled with the acoustic because it wasn't set up properly. So when I went to the Strat I could cleanly finger all the chords from my teacher because of the strength I'd gained. My hands were a lot faster too because of the thinner neck.

I would definitely recommend acoustic to a beginner because it's a good way of finding out whether someone will stick with it. It also forces you to make the guitar sound good clean instead of hiding it under a bunch of distortion.

Within the next two year I'd love to get a twelve string acoustic. I still have that Washburn but haven't touched it in about 6-7 years. It could probably use a new set of strings and a truss rod adjustment.

>>53513252
Yeah that sounds like a good plan to me. I'm planning on getting an RME Babyface. I've heard lots of positive things.

I've been playing for 6 years, and i can name 5 chords and i know no scales.

While i have the technical ability, i have almost no theory knowledge. Could anyone recommend me some literature, or sources, to begin learning about the theoretical side of guitar playing?

>>53513252
I think I might even just use digital signal processing live when I get to that, unless there's a reason that would be less than ideal?

>>53513303
"the practical guide to modern music theory for guitarists"

>>53513232
You ever heard breed 77? they incorporate classical guitar flamenco stuff into metal, two lead guitarists. I like it.

Any alternative learning techniques? I've been doing the justinguitar.com stuff but I just don't feel like I'm progressing well.

>>53512972
But everybody starts with a shitty acoustic.

>>53513337
Have your mates teach you

>>53513352
>mates
>implying

No I have friends but none of them play instruments.

>>53513335
Haven't heard it but will check it out, cheers bro

>>53513308
Matter of preference, I prefer tube amps but most of the stuff I play is clean and my clean tone is pretty important to me
there's nothing wrong with using digital processing live tho

>>53513303
>I've been playing for 6 years, and i can name 5 chords and i know no scales
this was me a year ago

know at least most chords and minor/major/pentatonic know even though shit like this is hard for me to memorize

>>53513337
Get a teacher.

>>53513308
Nothing wrong with it if you want to throw a shit ton of effect into your guitar, more experienced players usually prefer a real tube amp because it has a larger range of dynamic and is more sensitive to your playing than digital VSTs.

>>53513308
>unless there's a reason that would be less than ideal?
Latency, complicated setup

>>53513425
With a good computer and interface I should be able to get the latency to pretty negligible amount right? A lot of what I do is in the box Ableton Live stuff so I think it would be simpler in a way.

>>53513337
I got this giant Beatles chord songbook and just went through it playing the chords and getting the rhythm by ear.
It helped memorize a fuck load of chords and the rhythm patterns are easy but useful.

Once you know enough chords and picked up on which sound nice you can find some people to jam with and you wont be enormously incompetent.

Playing music with other people is really the best way to develop your own style and understand the music better.

>>53513175
Thanks m8.

I play a lot of blues
>muh buttery tone
Hence the need for a chorus.

I don't really want the guitar to sound like a synth as such, I just want weird angular, nasty sounding noises. These pedals fit that bill for me. As for recording I have my shit tier Pro Tools/Reason set up so I'm sorted there.

The gate isn't really a necessity but it would be a help for my I've got my 3 distortion pedals all on at once in a recording situation, saves saves a lot of wave editing and I'm real fucking lazy.

Appreciate the response anon.

>going slow and hitting everything perfectly then coming back later and doing it again

holy shit just been doing this for a week and the playing is already improving, i guess rushing really is bad

Sup everyone, I don't usually check these threads but lately I've been getting into guitar again. I have a shitty amp but I feel like it's enough for what I want.

I wanted to connect my guitar to my PC to either use one of those software amp simulators or connect the output of the amp to the PC so I don't have to play out loud and can record it. I got an adaptor that connects the cable to the pink input for the mic on the PC and despite it not sounding the best it kinda works.

BUT when I play for like 5 seconds without stopping the sound gets all fucked up and I got to stop for it to get normal again.

Am i doing something wrong? Is this not the way you should connect your guitar? Thanks in advance if anyone can help me.

>>53514190
Default drivers are shit, I got ableton and asio4all and it works decently.
You're gonna get some latency though.

>>53514239
so the drivers are the problem here? To clarify more it sounds muffled and watery when I play fast for like 5 seconds.

Anyone have any experience with Sterling by Music Man guitars? I'm rather interested in their JP100D and AX40D.

How do they compare to the real deal?

>>53514190
yamaha thr5, google it mate, may be what you're after

>>53514190

Lol dude you need an audio interface. Basically it's something that connects your guitar to your computer through USB.

>>53514360
sorry for being so new to this shit, but thanks for answering. I'll look into it

>>53513294
RME is god-tier

it's all expensive as fuck but you won't find better I/O

>>53512795
Been playing bass for about a year and half, not really feeling like I'm improving much

I'm getting better at walking and scales and stuff but I feel like my hands are just too small to play like some of these guys I see

good skill builder songs to practice?

>>53514190
>>53514373
Amp outputs are pretty much always shit, if you want to do direct recording either buy a digital amp modeling unit or get an audio interface to connect to your PC.
They basically translate your guitar signal into 0's and 1's and boost up the level so your PC can understand it.

I need to get an original Boss CE2 (long dash silver screw) but for now I think I'm gonna go with the MXR M234.

Been playin for ten years. Favorite guitars are pic related.

Favorite guitarist was, is, and always will be Stevie Ray Vaughan.

>>53514407
I'm going to start looking at an audio interface and when I get the money to buy it I might drop by and ask for suggestions from this thread.
Thanks everyone, this general is p chill

>>53514407
you want an audio interface, the amp modeling unit on its own could pose a hazard to your computer's sound card

a powerful guitar amp and pretty much any bass amp is too much for the typical on-board audio I/O. the interface is basically a big external sound card with XLR/quarter inch plugs

What does /mu/ think of Sigma Guitars? I was planning on getting 0M-15-copy, but I was wondering is it any good of a purchase..

>>53514396
Check out stuff by Minutemen

>>53514373

Lol don't worry about it, connecting a 6.3 to 3.5 mm cable into my laptop's mic input was how I first recorded guitar too lol.

>>53514440
Most digital amp modeling units have USB output so you can use them as an audio interface you know?

>>53514442
Wow that thing copies that Martin HD28 HARD.

Probably sounds pretty good though.

>>53513337
Sor's Method for the Guitar. Goes really deep into alternate voiceings with tons of exercises, only grabbing partial barres for what you need, ergonomics of playing, proper technique, arpeggiation and all kinds of other stuff. After that you just play his studies using it and learn organically.

It might not be your thing as it's all fingerstyle and it was written in that super oldschool peudoscientific tone, but quite a bit translates to picking and the advice is invaluable. He also has a sense of humor in a really dry way. Not to mention fingerpicking can really improve your playing overall.

>>53514082
I did a lot of reading on the science of learning and that was the best way I could apply it to get good quickly. It combines that shit about studying before bed or in the morning and evening in a more manageable time frame with never habituating mistakes in the first place. It also came from the very deliberate way segovia explains to do scale exercises to build your tone and projection. You start so slowly it's even more difficult and gradually speed the metronome up once you have it right every time.

>>53514420
this is my kind of gear, nice m8

>>53514522
Well yes. Sigma Guitars was Martin trying to compete with companies making copycat-guitars in China. Martin doesn't own Sigma anymore tho.

New board build

>>53514190
You have to properly configure sample rates

>>53514939
>no modulation
>no distortion

That board's insane though. Mad props.

>>53515326
>>no distortion
What are the channel switcher and volume knob on the guitar for?

>>53515326
Cheers! I use the marshall for overdrive with the maxon boosting it. If i want fuzz then the mobius has a bitcrusher that can be dialled in. Dunno what you mean by no modulation, everything aside from the maxon & tuner modulates on this board!

>>53514939
mirin

>>53515326
*cough*

1/3

MIM tele
MIM modded strat
MIJ MB4
50s Tenor Guitar
Fender Twelve string

Got an anchient Fender Accoustic not pictured, as well as various toys like mandolins, ukes, etc.

2/3

Kustom Coupe 36
79 Accoustic Model 116

They were cheap af and sound pretty great

>>53514420
Nice Deja-Vibe

3/3

Muh board

Don't have much desired gear except collecting new pedals, I really want a Silverface Bassman for guitar though.

Oh and synths, I want synths, I've got a Minibrute, and a Modular project, but I'm looking I to cheaper analog polys like a Juno 2 or a Poly800.

>>53515602

How does the Behringer delay work? Any problems with tone suck? Have you had any trouble with it not powering up?

>>53512935
oh god did someone try to relic that

>>53515802
Man don't even think about behringers if you're using blues lawyer tone snob terms like "tone suck"

>>53515802

It's not bad, I'm planning on replacing it soon

Hey guys, does anyone here know how I could reduce the amount of hiss my amp puts out for recording?

>>53516023
Noise reduction pedal. I'd recommend the ISP Decimator. Check your cables with a multimeter. Check your guitars wiring.

>>53516023
>>53516066
Or you can apply a noise filter in your DAW.

>>53516066
Alright thanks man, how do noise reduction pedals affect tone typically? Also, the noise is mostly coming from my big muff, so I don't think it would be guitar wiring.

>>53516108
I wouldn't use one unless i really had to. A few times live i had one handy but i was forever messing with it, they kill sustain.

>>53516085
This is what I will probably do in the short term, thanks.

>>53516127
Yeah, I figured. I think I might just try and figure out a way to make it bearable enough to just be a "part of the sound" like some of the lo-fi black metal bands and do some stuff in software to mend it.

>>53515893

Funny, most of the so-called "blues lawyers" on YouTube recommend them. At least that In the Blues guy seems to like them. He also seems to prefer Squier to Fenders, so he must be an anomaly.

I want to play ambient guitar, and I've run into far more tone snobs in that genre than blues. And I don't even like blues...

>current gear
Fender MiM strat
Unknown Teisco-style guitar
Couple of fuzz pedals
Joyo OD and trem
8 bit mooer pedal
Mxr chorus
Shitty delay pedal
Peavey classic 30
>desired gear
a pedalboard
nonshit delay
Big Muff
Another chorus pedal
Tuner pedal
Another oddball guitar

Sup

>tfw sold my guitar after haven't touched it for almost 4 years
>never learned how to play
>regret it now because I wanna learn how to play
fug

>American Standard Strat with Fat 50s (thinking about changing these to Lace Sensor Red, Blue, Silver setup)
>MXR Custom Comp
>Mooer Slow Engine
>Big Muff with Tone Wicker
>Whirlwind phaser
>MXR analog chorus
>Hardwire RV7
>TC Electronic Hall of Fame
>TC Electronic Flashback
>Boss Noise Suppressor
>Fender Hot Rod DeVille amp

I play mostly shoegaze and ambient

>>53515526
Are you perhaps the infamous gearspammer?

>>53516530
It's not like guitars are really all that expensive or anything. I was just lucky to have one not worth selling when I finally matured enough to get more serious about practice.

>>53515370
Yeah i mistook the mobius for a bigsky
Boner-inducing board, m8

What do you play?

>>53516337
Why are you worried about tone suck if you want to play ambient guitar, it's not like you'll ever be playing the raw clean signal.

imo Behringers sound just as good as their Boss/Line 6 counterparts. The Verbzilla clone is a nice one for ambient music. rv600 I think

Posted before but recently finished. Homemade Les Paul with dark walnut stain and passive EMG H1/H1A.

>>53516514
Match made in heaven

Would sell all my gear except of these two

>>53516790
I had a behringer overdrive once, it sounded like shit and broke after a few months

I'd rather buy some cheap ehx pedals that last

>>53516964
Maybe you're too hard on your pedals. I have a bunch of behringer pedals that I've had for years and they're still fine.

The build quality isn't great but at least you can buy an identical circuit of discontinued boss pedals that cost hundreds now.

>>53516786
I used to be in a pro band that did pop punk with a more metal edge. Now i'd just say i'm in a guitar driven band. I'm forever flipping pedals as i find them inspiring and it changes things up live. When i'm at home I'll just noodle along with anything but i do like post rock thats more heavy, like Russian Circles, Rinoa and shizz

>>53516746
You have no idea.

>Inside of palm towards pinky hurts when doing chromatic exercises

motherfucker

>>53518056
Since the dawn of time, how to sit with the fucker has been the eternal topic of debate. Bring the neck up like you're about to shred so you aren't twisting your wrist. Some people have to pivot it between their legs almost like a cello just to get their pinky on the 6th string. Also make sure your thumb is on the back of the neck and not wrapped around it like a porchmonkey.

>>53518412
>tfw always in fig 8 position

>>53518412
This shit right here is the reason I want a flying V or the Stealth, they look so fucking comfy.

>>53518412
>hating on the thumb

>>53518770
Read the book. Sor goes into why wrapping the thumb around is shitty through the power of common sense and snazzy engravings. It has an important job to do and that job is located opposite of the fingers fretting. He also rips on some people in that polite way no one is capable of anymore.

>>53518934
>the power of common sense
common sense dictates that if i have 5 digits on my fretting hand i should use them all

>>53518934
Why should I trust some loser with the name Sor? Sounds like a virgin.

>>53519171
Nigga look at that coiffure. Spanish dude playing guitar, bitches were throwing their corsets on the stage. His genre was romantic guitar. I bet you like that goth pop shit like dowland and cry when you make your little brother play it by candlelight when that girl you've talked to at the mayfair all of three times gets arranged to be married to some viscount.

>>53519316
>coiffure

>>53519431
Motherfucker was GOAT!

>>53519031
And sacrifice the ability to utilize other digits to their fullest.
It's a bad habit, it's not frowned upon just out of tradition.

>>53517022

How hard is it to rehouse Behringers in metal cases? Is there a place to get metal cases cheap?

>>53515326
>no modulation
Dude do you even a Strymon Mobius?

>>53521326
you probably cant do that, most parts are directly soldered to the pcb, I took apart my broken behringer once
would not be worth all the effort + price of a metal case, new switch, jacks, pots etc.

>>53513232
>Worst guitar you've ever played?
Phil Pro strat, what the fuck is this thing anyway?

Wheres the guy with the Ampeg 8x10 and Fender Bassman 135?

>tfw you will never own a handmade Cobra guitar

>>53521877
idk, but me and my Aguilar/Hartke stack are here

>>53522039
Always a pleasure to see your rig, looks like a lot of fun to play

>>53522039
Also, how is that Tone Hammer? I've been looking for a new amp and they seem like a good deal. Is the quality of tone worth the money?

is the CAGED system necessary?

or is the best way to learn chord extensions and all that to learn all the notes up and down the fret?

do you play in keys?

I posted here the other night and mentioned owning an old Ibanez Gio that had been rotting in a cupboard for a few years.

Just replaced the pups with new (shitty) ones, and some shiny new saddles. The old ones literally crumbled to dust when I loosened the screws. Just need to get some chrome screws for the new pup rings and non rusty black ones for the selector switch now.

>still looks like shit
>still plays like shit
>tfw wasting money because muh sentimental feels

>>53522499
>>tfw wasting money because muh sentimental feels

but that's the best reason to waste money!
That's why I'm going to put money into my shitty epiphone dot studio.

>>53522620
Thanks anon, I feel validated now.

Good luck with your Epi.

Anyone know of any unusual folk chords? Also what's with all the google entries being people wanting to be spoonfed chord progressions?

>>53522766
thanks, i just need more money and more time lol

>>53522833
Listen to modal shit like Pierre bensusan and play around. Its more about the arpeggiation and inversions than the chords.

>>53522488
Yes

Why is singing and playing the guitar so hard.

I keep going full retard and strumming at every syllable, or if I try to play something a little too fancy, then my singing becomes "retard trying to speak" mode

>>53523553
It only gets worse. Go listen to the album and try to play any song. Then try to sing over it. It has syncopation that will make you cry. The rhythm never touches the beat and the melody has fuck and nothing to do with the rhythm.

>>53523651
I just can't FUCKING do it, even when the syncopation is hardly there at all. Why can't every song just be strumming chords regularly and singing hippie shit on top of it.

>>53522620
I just got my epi dot back from its first set up. Bought it for 300 bucks and have invested about as much into it. Came back with flat wounds and plays like a dream. Now all that's left to fix is the shitty epiphone goldtop I have

>>53523676
You have to get to the point where you just shit chords like a machine on autopilot. When people who aren't retarded talk feelinv the music, they mean having spent hours upon hours grinding until it is a subconscious act requiring no input from the rest of you.

This is why I do fingerstyle arrangements instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3gxQ1tetAQ
Cliff Gallup was a goddamn natural talent

>>53521877
Me?

>>53516861
Nice m8. Ive had one of those around for a bit. Do you use it with a cab?

It finally shipped today. Should be here Monday. Look, look at the points. Look at them and let the asspains flow through your entire body and send you in to a spiraling rage.

I've never had DiMarzio pickups before, what should I expect? It's got D Activator-X and PAF in it.

But in reality I saw these guitars 10 years ago when I was 15, I've always been a Moser fan, but I quit caring as I got older. Then I saw this for sale and it took me back, I bought this 40% for the nostalgia and the fact that as a kid this was my dream guitar and now I can afford to live my nostalgia, and 60% because I know people will FLIP SHIT butthurt that guitars that look like this even exist, and it's funny to me.

I have an LTD M330 with a Floyd rose
A B.C. Rich Wave
A Squier Hello Kitty Strat
A Spector Performer 4 bass

Crate BX-220 bass head
Dual Crate PS 115HP speakers
Boss Metal Zone
Digitech RP-50
Ibanez SM7

Favorite guitarist/musician is Devin Townsend


I play metal (surprise) and I enjoy it. And I have a lot of fun playing it. I don't really play for anyone else, and music snobs crack me up. And my next 10 years of playing? Will be just as much of a blast as the first 10. I love it.

>>53524356
I hate that guitar and want you to die in a fire for owning it. That said, your HK Strat is fucking marvellous and it makes me want to bum you into the middle of next week.

I guess we're just about breaking even there....

>>53524483
I bough it because I collect hello kitty, and I read that they stopped production of it. Went out that day and picked it up. Was surprised as fuck at how much I actually enjoy playing the little thing.

Old picture from when I was between apartments living in a dudes basement.

>>53524584
As a 29 year old heterosexual male, my desire to own that guitar is both scary and confusing.

>>53524706
Fits good in any "I was poor growing up" collection.

Anyone else just not like the current trend of finger style? I like listening to it but I don't like playing it and you just look like a jackass

>>53524783
Is that a PC with an actual lego chassis?

>>53525208
Yes, I had old parts from a computer upgrade but I kept my case. Wanted hook up a server but had no case. I improvised. I'd post a better picture of it, but I've already taken up enough spots

>>53522342
Yes and yes, i Simply love this amp, only weighs 4 pounds and i take it around in my laptop bag, and it is one of the warmest tube-like solid state amps around. Aguilar made a great tone stack and EQ for this amp

>>53522263
It is ;)

>>53524894
Finger style is great when it's stuff like Chet Atkins. I absolutely hate the Andy McKee guitar slapping trash, because God forbid someone learn how to make rhythm with the strings instead of beating on their guitar like an idiot.

>>53525843
Agreed. Michael Hedges ruined it for everyone. Now, I don't mind flamenco golpe, or some occasional tapping, but the moment your right hand leaves the office, it better be fucking important.

>>53524706

I'm 37 and straight, and I really want it. I have Hello Kitty decals on my guitar case.

>>53524706
>>53526659
Closet homosexuals pls leave

>>53524706
>>53526659
Straightfags displaying their shit taste as usual.

How many bassists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Seven. One to hold the bulb and six to drink until the room spins.

>>53527688
why not 2 so only one drinks until the room spins?

>>53527688
it takes two, one to do it and one to take 20 minutes to look for and tune the low E that isn't on the lightbulb

>>53527688

how many lead singers (or lead guitarists) does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

One. He holds the bulb and the whole world revolves around him

>>53516790
>The Verbzilla clone is a nice one for ambient music. rv600 I think

I have an Echo Park (the real deal). Is it really worth having the Verbzilla clone as well? I can get some ambient sounds out of the Echo Park, especially on the reverse and swell settings.

>>53524783
>pc made of legos
>tenacious d poster
>hello kitty strat
my nigga

my buddy had a hello kitty strat and that thing was so much fun to shred on

God damn my mind is reeling from trying to study music theory

>A aeolian (A B C D E F G A) has the same notes as C Ionian ( C D E F G A B C)
>That means A aeolian is the relative minor of C Ionian

Then how the fuck do you know if a song is in the key of A aeolian instead of C ionian

Why am I such a faggot with downs syndome

FUCK

>>53528846
>A aeolian; A major; Major = Happy, upbeat, positive sounding
>C ionian; C Minor; Minor = Sad, melancholy, dark sounding

>>53528846
A aeolian; A Minor; Minor = sad, melancholy, dark sounding
C ionian; C Major; Major = happy, upbeat, positive sounding

>>53529025
I see, that makes more sense. Thank you.

>>53528846
Your i's iv's and v's on the lead sheet will be lower case.

>>53528797
They play and sound awesome, it's almost like they were designed for metal. They suck shit clean, but you pump some distortion on it, and suddenly the thing is squealing harmonics and staying crunchy in milk

>>53529123
Thanks, I'm still terrible at reading music. I've been trying to practice learning by ear, and then looking up the parts I can't get on sheet music.

>>53528846

I don't really know how to word this in black and white, but a lot of it is in the root notes. If you listen to an A aeolian piece, there will be a lot of focus on the A note, with it being the root. It'll kinda focus around an A minor chord and give it a sad sorta feel. C ionian will sound a lot more merry, the focus will be on the C as the root note and the C major chord in the rhythm.

Like i said, its really tricky to explain, since they ARE essentially the same scale, that's why you could switch from A aeolian to C ionian in the same song and that shit'd totally work. it'll be crystal clear once you get an ear for it.

A good example, crazy as it sounds, is Wrecking Ball by Miley Cyrus. The verse is aeolian, the uplifting chorus is ionian, and while it's technically a key change, it flows because, again, its essentially the same scale. This song's a great example if you wanna hear the contrast between them, too

>>53529239
I still can't tell what mode stuff is in and it can be a really subjective thing with some passages. For the chords, look up jazz notation to make sure you're reading them right. Shit can be all over the place

>>53529330

Shit, didnt see
>>53529025

>>53529330
I see what you mean, thanks. Wrecking Ball definitely does have that kind of pattern. I've never really realized it.


>>53529365
Music that switch keys throw me off all the time. Especially since my ear is completely undeveloped.

>be us
>be trying to play quietly
>completely muted strings at both ends
>tfw every pluck is like a thunderclap
Our picado is getting pretty intense.

>>53514939
What's the altoid's tin?

my guitar and amp setup. How pleb am I? Sorry about faded look. Flash on camera is horrible. So us the lighting in my house.

>>53515888
I remember the guy said that he bought it mighty cheap off a friend or something and that's how he got it.

>>53518412
Are we talking strictly classical guitar here? For electric guitar wrapping the thumb around the fretboard makes a whole lot of sense because you have more power in your grip, therefore it makes bending way easier and allows wider vibrato.

>>53518746
Flying V's are NOT comfy, to me at least. Without a strap it's wack as fuck

>>53530618
Pretty 7/10 setup I reckon, the TT series are beasts.

>>53528430
yes, the cave reverb setting is pretty damn nice.

>>53518746
Take it from a Flying V owner, if you sit in the classical position they're good enough. But if your input jack is on the inside of the fin like mine it makes it a pain to sit with.

Explorers are the most uncomfy imo, cannot sit in the classical position with them

>>53524178
>SKS

Roc/k/er?

>>53530755
7 / 10 is pretty good, thanks!

Any particular recommendations anyone has to improve / change? I'm pretty happy with it but I love hearing recommendations.

>>53530856
Well really all I can think of is maybe a couple pedals like a Tuner, OD/dist, reverb or delay, any of those make a rig so much better

>>53530618
HaveACareer/10

>>53530905
I've got a couple unpictured pedals. Need a tuner. Have big muff and memory man for making noises and stuff, though.

>>53530905
How much more OD do you need when you have an Orange? Agree on the delay, maybe a phaser, or an envelope filter, those are fun.

>>53524178
if you could do me a favor and use that SKS to dispose of that spider on your bass I would really appreciate it

>>53531002
Had the muff before I got the orange, agreed entirely though. I never use it now. really want a phaser, though, you're so right on that one.

>>53531002
I use an OD with every amp, hell even with Solid State amps I'll still plug in a Tubescreamer at times.

>>53531043
Anything that significantly changes the sound is nice after a while. You can go so long with reverb and proper eq keeping you from getting bored.

>>53530559
For when he forgets to brush his teeth duh

Opinions on Mooer pedals?

>>53524178
yeah, how do you like that Fender Bassman? I may have the opportunity to get one but I'm not sure if I should pull the trigger

>>53524356
Thats a really sweet guitar. Would buy it in a heart beat, no joke

>tfw shit at guitar

>>53531005
Didn't even notice till you pointed it out.
Guess I'm not sleeping tonight

>>53531422
fk u niga dum shit lil bich

No really, what's wired into it?

>>53532149
It's probably for picks, capo, etc. It's very popular with the reddit fucks

>>53528846
>Then how the fuck do you know if a song is in the key of A aeolian instead of C ionian

First, those are modes. No such thing as key of X aeolian or Y ionian. You are referring to minor and major keys, respectively.

>how the fuck do you know if a song is in the key of A minor
That's fairly easy, just look out for A's leading-note, which would be G#. Alternatively, you could look out for a V chord, E major, (which would be a minor chord in the key of C).

Failing that, just look for cadences and see if they resolve in either A minor or C major.

How do I get good at improvising/jamming? I know my scales and chords and I can put together something sort of okay with the blues scale, but I'm generally mediocre. What do I practice?

>>53533381
You can do a lot with cool rhythms, just pick a couple notes that sound cool and roll with them

>>53533381
Play over Boards of Canada, Aphex Twin's SAW 85-92, Can's Tago Mago, and other shit. Get a looper. Be really self-conscious about timing. Maybe this is too advanced. But I think the looper is a good idea if you're short on people. You can lay down simple backing tracks and play leads/accompaniment over shit. Actually playing with people is way cooler, but you can hone basics before you jump into that.

>>53533381
Play a song, figure out what key it's in, figure out the chords, solo over it.

>>53530828
Yep :)

>>53531005
Not a spider but thanks!

>>53531522
I think its fantastic, I havent had a problem yet though I dont use it much. If the price is right you can always resell it.

I finally ditched that mirror pick guard for a gold anodized one.

https://clyp.it/5zocldxm
r8 my wip

>>53535718
That pickguard bruh. Replace it with a faded white and it's a 10/10 looking bass. That gold just looks plain bad.

>>53535718
I dig the golden pickguard. It's gaudy in a cool way. That's not the original bridge is it? Do the chunky aftermarket ones do much for the bass tone?

black guitar with humbuckers: chrome hardware, or matching black?

this 1997 SG is probably the best and last gibson guitar i'll ever own, short of a nice old ES-335. but truthfully i'm not loaded enough for that.

>>53536881

Why not mix.... >>53522499

>http://www.guitarworld.com/greatest-craigslist-guitar-ad-all-time

>this isn't ironic
>the comments aren't ironic
>the dadrock guitarists posting this all over fuckbook think it's the funniest thing ever

>>53537023
>guitar world
>the equivalent of Us Weekly or People but for guitar

Why even bother with that site or mag

This should be arriving sometime today.
I'll probably have to spend the day setting it up, but I can't wait.

Well well, look what finally turned up from China....

>>53537314
Grats man, Schecter isn't really my thing - but they make solid instruments.

Is the 12" Vox AC4 any good?

>>53537677
That's what I hear, I hope it lives up to it.

Now to hunt down a Mesa F 50 for a good price.

>>53537599
I should get something like this.

>Tfw can downpick at 130 bpm but only 120 bpm alt pick

its over isnt it

>>53535718
I may have to look into getting a bassman then. Is it loud enough to play a live show? That Squier looks good!

>>53538164
I can down pick this, but struggle to play alternate picked runs and what not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4zEHxCYpKo

>>53538182
Er meant to reply to >>53538155

>>53537932
You should, creating monstrous loops of pure garbage is pretty fun.

What's the difference between A minor and C Aeolian? I'm guessing you add the C to the chords in A Minor, right?

>>53538856
It's the a minor scale played over C progressions. It has to do with the root of the chord and the leading tones of the melody. It sounds different from just playing in the relative minor, check out dylan's all along the watchtower for what its sounds like.

Vivian Campbell is such a bro because he has played for the two greatest artists of all time: Dio and Taylor Swift

>>53539119
:)

>>53538970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbhjFScOMT4
Maybe im misunderstanding it but isn't he essentially saying to add the C to the chord progrssions of that mode?

Okay /gg/ so I have a Chorus, Phaser, Fuzz and Distortion pedal and $100 in Long and Mcquade credits.
What other pedal should I get to fill out my board?
I mainly play psychedelic, blues rock and post-punk

>>53539336
Envelope filter for the garcia sound, or a delay because everyone needs one of those.

The guitar is now up on Ebay.
Fingers crossed it actually goes somewhere to someone who will play it more than twice a year.
Otherwise I'd have to relist it and actually pay this time.

>>53537599
this, i want this. How long did it take to ship?

>>53539336
Delay or tremolo.

>>53531652
practice more nigger

>>53539690
About 2 and a half weeks anon.

So much fun.

>>53539767
I want one sooooooooooo bad. I don't know if i can justify $100 right now even though i would never put my guitar down again.

>>53537314
Nice man, Schecters are gr8 m8!

>>53539782
Treat yourself mate. Write it off as a practice tool not just something fun.

>>53535718
>gold anodized
aww yiss

What's going on with your controls?

Can someone please explain the function of arpeggios to me?
Is it necessary to know arpeggios if already know the modes of each key and their position on the fretboard? Any resources on arpeggios and why to use them would be greatly appreciated.

>>53539863
>Any resources on arpeggios and why to use them would be greatly appreciated.
Pretty much the only reason to use anything is they sound good in context.
Personally I like to use 5 notes arpeggios as an ostinato to add texture.

>>53539579
I thought I told you to include some bullshit about its satanic shred power. You didn't even include the words Wizard Neck. How are stoners supposed to know it has a Wizard neck for maximum shred? And absolutely make sure to insure that shit, meet all the terms, and be prepared to go to court over it.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ups+throws+box

>>53539904
So if I'm already aware on intervals, root notes and modes they're not that necessary?

>>53539925
Arpeggios are basically modes played up and down.

>>53539923
I'm sorry anon, I tried
;_;

>>53539923
>https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ups+throws+box
kek
Small indie vintage shop reporting. We stopped using UPS years ago due to damaged instruments. FedEx is much better.

>>53540124
They have very different pace. 7-15 business days on average around here and I swear I've never seen a driver under 50. I've forgotten I've ordered packages when I go through them, but the box isn't even scuffed up when I do get it.

>>53540410
>7-15 business days on average around here
Where's this? I have one going out today. Approx 500 miles for $36.75 (insured for $1k) - 2 day delivery time. This is FedEx Home Delivery (ground service).

So I bought a black russian big muff on ebay but it turns out it has a broken output jack, and the kitrae website says it only takes enclosed 1/4" jacks. I don't feel like waiting to have one shipped. Where would be the best brick and mortar place to buy one? Like radioshack or something?

https://soundcloud.com/cocaine_da_rapper/dolla-dolla-bill-prod-by-luke-white

i bet none of you fags can play this on your fagtar

>>53540473
This was years ago and was usually cross country or from somewhere in the middle of nowhere to here. Lately it's been faster than UPS.

>>53540628
I bet you're wrong.

>>53540675
do it and post fan, what you think of the song>

>>53540684
How about you fuck off back to whichever containment thread you've strayed from and stay there.

>what you think of the song
>bakingsoda/10

>>53514442
I would choose a sigma over martin any day. The quality is so good. Ive played €1200 martins that dont feel or sound as good.
If i wasnt an electric fag id probably cop one.

>>53514939
Sick board m8, Im truly jealous

>>53540628
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0dBlCf4Csww
So difficult.

>Post Gear
Epiphone LP Studio
Fender Mustang II v2
>Desired Gear
Anything I can afford
>How long have you been playing?
1 1/2 months lol
>Fav guitars
LP, Tele
>Fav guitarist(s)?
Jimmy Paige
>Projects?
Lol

>>53540607
yes, radioshack might have it
you need a pcb mount shorting stereo jack - pic related

Mu, please help with this ONE chord. Which is it? Come on
http://youtu.be/ERU9ZtTs3Fk

How do you discretely hint to one of your bros that guitar is a private time thing that you only bring out when you are absolutely sure you have polished a piece to a certain standard? Like doing scale runs and rhythm practice is okay if it's practice time, but listening to somebody stumble through a piece or just make noise and bad blues licks is akin to watching someone awkwardly masturbate.

>>53541438
sounds like you've never been in a band

Any else here use a piccolo bass?

>>53541438
I don't really care? Listening to people's noodling won't kill me.

>>53539836
i like how you think, I got $50 coming my way so I'll wait until i get that.

>>53541644
What if it's really really bad? Like little kid playing violin bad.

>>53541607
>>53541644
>>53541710
https://soundcloud.com/lobo_da_g

>>53541733
Then offer constructive criticism and help them out. Or just carry on being an obnoxious arsehole, your choice.

>>53541733
Depends, do you want to be a douchebag or not?

>>53541804
>>53541833
I just don't say anything. He doesn't want to learn or practice conductively and treats even the most basic shit as being over his head.

>>53542066
Then it sounds like he's just having fun noodling away. I spent ten years doing that. Admittedly I didn't burden anyone elses ears with it and I wish I'd actually bothered to use that time constructively, but I was enjoying myself none the less.

>>53541804
>>53541833
>>53542066
>>53542274
https://soundcloud.com/lobo_da_g

>>53542066
>practice conductively

>>53542274
He got better recently but still turns into an autist when he plays. Can't talk to him because he can't hear you over his noodling and "chords". I can respect how much he enjoys it but its like a kid who only knows half a punk rock song trying to play it on an acoustic while the adults are talking.

>>53541044
thanks

Then get a louder rig than him if you don't already and play over him

>>53528846

well aeolian is just like any mode, whatever note you emphasize is going to imply a certain tonality, so in your case resolve to an A. Not really that hard. take ap music theory if you're in high school, it helps.