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to make way for this guy

He never made it as a wise man. Couldn't cut it as a poor man stealing.

nah probably cause hes a self loathing junkie live every other musician in the PNW why else

or courtney whacked him

because he was a talentless hack

because the chan and /mu/ weren't around back then

His bastard son wouldn't leave him alone.

>>53384397
for the nookie, the nookie, so that you could get that cookie

>>53384489
AND STICK IT UP YOUR (YEAH)
STICK IT UP YOUR (YEAH)
STICK IT UP YOUR (YEAH)

he had a neverending tummy ache.

It was his girlfriend (obviously)

>>53384397
Honestly probably because of what his band had become and his fan base

He was just a punk rocker, he wasn't cut out for that shit

>>53384555
I don't think so.

He could've just disappeared from the music world.

He just forgot to activate his almonds

>>53384397
I think he was closeted and was ashamed of himself

>>53384655
>being THAT guy

hows it feel

i think he was depressed

too bad it wasnt perry ferrell instead

>>53384397
he was a pussy on drugs

>>53384804
that's one thing he has in common with your dad.

>>53384813
nice try, kurt

Serious post here;

He was a flawed human being from an early age and never was able to fully understand his emotions. Quite sad, excited for people to see the Montage of Heck Documentary.

>>53384851
>wahhhhhhh apologists

yikes

because he had a butt

>>53384585
This was BEFORE the advent of Jeff Mangum-ing.


>>53384804
Rehab's not a kind place. Suicides, getting re-hooked and lots of other things are strikingly common and heroin's a bitch, IIRC the music video for Sober by Tool is supposed to be a metaphor for rehab or something but Tool fans would probably tell you it's something deeper and bullshit.

>>53384873
Some people get dealt a shitty hand.

>>53384896
Um you mean Syd Barretting.

>>53384397
he didn't do anything country killed kurt

>>53384904
no shit

>>53384896
>manic street preachers dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ugWA6EAYSU

>>53384935
He killed himself

>>53384923
no shit no shit, what are you fucking stupid?

IT'S NOT THE TRUTH I SEE


IT'S JUST A MOCKERY

>>53384910
Syd still released a few solo albums while Mangum really did drop off the face of the earth.

>>53384747
>>53384555
these, he'd always had serious problems with depression and had a long history of doing reckless or self-destructive shit. his family was broken as fuck, he was bullied a lot in his buttfuck nowhere blue collar town and he was homeless for a while as a teenager which fucked with his head. he liked the grunge scene (which was more like another wave of punk than anything else) and he seriously thought he could retain its values when he went commercial. when he realized he couldn't and he was trapped in shit contracts so he couldn't play the music he wanted, he turned into a junkie which made things worse and the whole celebrity thing was too much for him. sure, he could've dropped out of the music world, but depression probably made it feel inescapable and to be fair he still would've been a worldwide celebrity no matter where he went. suicide was probably a long time coming though

>>53384997
>>53384910
yeah, plus syd barrett was still on the map he was just inactive

>>53385013
He was terrified of ridicule ever since his first sexual experience which is documented in Montage of Heck. He was terrified of criticism, as bold as he was with each release. He was terrified of people not liking what he made.

>>53384982
the fuck? i mean no shit alot of people have it tough people make this guy out to be a special case because he wrote some good tunes then blew his head off

>he was a flawed human being

yeah welcome to the club

>>53385071
yeah he was a sensitive motherfucker, probably had the anxious kind of depression too instead of the kind that makes you more apathetic. when's montage of heck coming out?

>>53384397
For a Klondike bar

>>53385078
I'd say there's a bit more to it than that. Far more.

>>53385089
HBO should be putting it out the first week in May. Each thing I hear about it gets me more and more excited. Apparently you see him in an entirely different light. I'm hoping it can change some people's opinions on him, but that's for them to decide, not me.

his wife and most of his friends were cunts but he didn't realise it

>>53385048
>>53384997
what the fuck are you guys talking about? syd barrett released his solo albums before he disappeared. and he disappeared. he didn't come back and try to cash in. like jeff mangum. he disappeared and died. he never played music again.

>>53385128
how's it gonna treat him?
>>53385149
pretty sure he knew courtney was a bitch after a point even if he still loved her

>>53384419
is that Earth-man?

>>53385149
Krist Novoselic would've made everything better though. He seemed like the ultimate best friend for Kurt. Dunno about Dave tbh.

>>53385174
It's focused much more on him as a person as opposed to his music. It does however feature unreleased recordings/journal entries/photo/video.

There's home footage showing him as a loving father as well as him struggling with his drug abuse in public situations. There's some great interviews that have been done with the director, Brett Morgen. Just a google search away and worth reading.

>>53384939
This guy was a drunk retard looking for attention. That's why he got killed by a train like the day after this interview was done.

>>53385199
For whatever reason Kurt resented them a bit towards the end. But I think that had much more to do with him being fed up with being in a band as well as his emotional instability.

>>53385243
CLIDF go

>>53385243
LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV6ydcWeM9k&ab_channel=unclecj26

>>53385265
I don't have an opinion on Courtney Love and I couldn't name a single Hole song.

>>53385284
consider that a blessing

>>53385199
I wouldn't doubt that Krist was capable of being an asshole but I see what you mean. I think he'd buddied up with Grohl too much and I think Grohl was really the side that couldn't let go of the fame.
Grohl had a writing style just like Kurt except significantly more poppy and not nearly as good.

>>53385284
OOH! OOH! I KNOW DOLL PARTS because I read once that won a grammy!

>>53385222
damn, that sounds great. i'm pretty sick of musician journalists trying to pathologize him through his lyrics as the only way to see what he was like, i've been waiting for something more in-depth that shows him as a complex character. most of the analysis of his personality now is pretty shallow despite a few exceptions, people recognizing he was depressed and sad but not going further. hopefully the unreleased recordings are early too, pre-fame nirvana beat the fuck out of post-fame nirvana, they were way better with their live energy than the shit production on nevermind

>>53385248
I read or heard somewhere that Kurt was meaning to disband Nirvana, fire Dave because he got fed up with him, and do some acoustic music with Krist.
I think he just got sick of fame, Courtney (they were preparing divorce), and Dave.

Come to think of it, he may have felt like a failure - he blamed his parents' divorce on fucking him up, and was doing the same to his daughter. But in saying that, suicide is clearly much worse. Heroin is one hell of a drug.

>>53385310
Krist was/is a loudmouth and was a good ying to Kurt's yang. I can see how he'd be a bit annoying at times though. As for Krist buddying up with Dave, it was just in both their personalities to do that, as extroverts. In the post above this, see that it is rumoured that Kurt wanted to fire Dave, and that would obviously affect stability in both band politics and personal life (Krist being Kurt's best friend).

>>53384939
seeing people as sleazy as this guy always gets me down. this is disgusting.

>>53385718
those tiny logging towns in the pnw are crazy

>people thinking it had literally anything to do with his music or the music industry or his fans

lol

he was a depressed heroin junkie with a family history of suicide and probably had bipolar disorder

>>53384438
Damn. You reminded me of who I really am.

at this point, does it really matter?

>>53385071
Thank God he didn't live to see the creation of /mu/, then.

>>53385829
he probably would've been a /mu/tant, before he got really famous with Nevermind at least

>>53385785
Welp, it's not like me to say sorry.

>>53385013
You got a major part backwards, he was already a junkie before he even signed to Geffen, but it did get worse after he got famous

>>53384655
I dunno, I get the impression he was pretty open-minded about that sort of thing, why would he be ashamed of it?

>>53385886
I started going to the gym this semester and I heard that song twice during the first week, is it a sign to give up?

>>53385531
Except In Utero is the best thing Kurt ever did which was a culmination of everything up until that point

>>53386020
I used to listen to In Utero on every bus ride to school in the 6th grade. It wasn't until a few years ago (I'm 21) that I realized how cohesive that album is and how perfect it is to me. The production, the lyrics, the sonic quality. It truly is the high point of creativity. Leaves you to wonder about what Kurt was going to make next with his acoustic ideas.

>>53385531
Yeah man it's going to be phenomenal to see. There's supposedly a heart breaking scene where Frances is getting a haircut and Kurt is totally binged out on drugs, oblivious to so much. Courtney gave the director full range to an entire archive of footage. It's supposedly the rockdoc to end all rockdocs. But it's cool because the music comes last. It's about him, his psyche.

Albini killed him because Cobain was going to expose Steve's secret, that he is a massive hack. Real fans all know this already of course.

>>53386919
I have heard some of his latest stuff..sounds kind of boring. Then again the bands were pretty shit.

>>53386839
It really is a masterpeice.

>>53386894
Can we get an actual Frances Bean interview ever?

>>53386976
She co-produced the film. She was quoted in saying she has no recollection of her father whatsoever. I just don't think she has much to say. I have to say though, her fiancé resembles Kurt very much.

>>53384419
that's fuckin right mate

>>53385284
>>53385323
It's impossible to not like Hole if you actually like Nirvana's music, half of Hole's music was probably written by Kurt anyway.

>>53387100
I'm convinced Kurt wrote the opening riff to "Celebrity Skin"

>>53387214
>>53387100
wouldn't really be surprised, she tried to steal Heart-Shaped Box

Because he was fucking sick in his head, it's nothing more than that.

descent via attrition from the gradual death of a group of people aka nirvana fans guilty for taking personal identity rendering useless millions

it was Courtney

>>53385275
based

>>53387239
I don't think he was really mentally unhealthy. I think he was a depressive who's lack of stability in childhood followed him throughout his life and when trying to find stability in a new family he picked the wrong person. Once Courtney completely fucked him, he couldn't handle it.

>and I know there are things in there Kurt would not want you to see, whether it’s having sex with Courtney, or being completely strung out

Wait they got footage of this nigga fucking courtney?

>>53387486
WOW just WOW

For me, someone who truly loves and cherish Kurt everyday for 25 years, this piece means a lot. if somehow Brett Morgen will read this comment - I want you to know that if the film is in fact as you're describing it to be, then you gave me a crucial gift that I'll always want to repay. channeling KURT in the way you describe is ever so needed and been waited for.

of course this film is my one most looking forward to movie ever, and to read the way you handled it instinctively makes me want to THANK YOU

>>53385275
i chuckled. i shouldnt have but i did

>>53385243
nah, spoopy shit goes on in the northwest

>>53385243
>The coroner's office gave the official cause of death as "misadventure".
TOP KEK

>>53388168
why

>>53384397
So he could beat the our next star musician in devastating death

because look what happened, all his songs led up to this

suicide was the plan or the band was never that good.

>>53388828
aka, he WAS that good

and his future vision created the world around him because he knew what was going to happen, so he could feed off of that forever. And he wants to be remembered forever, but he didn't have Facebook.

>>53388837
>but he didnt have facebook
damn...

new maymay is born.

I'm really interested in Montage of Heck and the humiliation angle it takes. The picture Morgan paints in interviews seems to more or less mimic Heavier Than Heaven. I guess, in the end, the film is trying to establish a definitive account of his life and psyche, including his supposed concern with humiliating himself, his abandonment issues from childhood, and his focus on the traditional family unit as essential. It's easy to see already that those elements were important to Kurt from his interviews. Like,
http://nirvananews.tumblr.com/121393SeattleWAChristmasInterview

>“I agree with a lot of Republican ideals, like the family structure,” Kurt admits, “but there are a lot of things I don’t. I believe it’s important to at least attempt to have a family structure, to have a father and mother.”

Depression can make success and fame feel as horrible as life on the streets. He had mental issues and didn't seek help.

>>53387214
Of all of the riffs, why fucking Celebrity Skin

it's 3 chords

It might as well have been Courtney who came up with it, it's so damn simple

Also Eric Erlandson and Billy Corgan

>>53387100
>>53385284
>>53385323
Anyone who appreciates Nirvana and the genius that is In Utero should listen to Live Through This.