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yes
i hear influences from punk in a ton of music.
Death GripsAnthony Fantano Ashton KutcherThe list goes on OP
>>53288937relevant or not, I still like it
>>53288961can you name some relevant punk artists?
NoPost punk is, tho.
Sadly yes
>>53289048this is what I was thinking. It seems like the only thing left of punk are all the subgenres that it inspired. I don't know what "modern" punk is.
punk is not relevant at all anymore
>>53288937The DIY attitude? Yes. The music? probably not. Nothing will ever top the 80's hardcore scene.
>>53288937>Is ___ relevant?Well, we're discussing it, aren't we?
>>53289098>I don't know what "modern" punk is.stale rehashes and traditionalist posing; it's ludicrous
>>53288937It's relevant to mesoIf you want relevancy, listen to death metal or power-violence or whatever.
punk music is the plebiest music i have ever heard
punk is an idealogy that has spread past the specific genre of punk rock music. B L A C K I E and Run The Jewels are not punk musicians, but i would consider them subscribers to the punk ideology.
>>53289846basically this. the diy ethic is booming thanks to the internet, but punk and a lot of it's subgenres don't have the power and influence they used to have, and that's okay cuz punk is now beyond music and is basically a lifestyle>>53289937yr the plebiest person i've ever met
>>53288937There's still a scene in almost every town. I know where I live the punk kids run almost every house/venue show. It's still relevant and part of the underground.On a big mainstream level? No. The ethic and attitude are still present through indie and underground music. It's kinda like a novelty piece people associate with.
>>53288937U kidding ? green day is huge
>>53289886Is punk supposed to be inventive and forward thinking?No. Get over yourself. That's why it's punk.
>>53290391Any good music I'd supposed to be forward thinking to some extent. Maybe you're confusing derivative for simple?
>>53288937Only it's subgenres now, and mostly the shitty ones at that. The only decent still relevant punk genre is Post-Punk.
>>53288937the ideals of punk (i.e. DIY, noncomformity in music) are very relevant, and should stay that way. however, aggressive circle jerks/minor threat/black flag style of music (the most commonly held notion of what "punk" is) is basically 30 years old and definitely irrelevant to 2015.
>>53288937hardcore is apparently dead for real. last year I heard maybe at most a full hour of hardcore with the stand out being gas rag from chicago. about 95% of what people call hardcore nowadays is metalcore, not hardcore punk.
Is rock music still relevant?Is guitar music still relevant?
Post-Hardcore > every other punk sub-genre
>>53292233Is music still relevant?Is art still relevant?Is relevancy relevant?
>>53292271I ask this selfishly as a guitarist because everytime I play I think "fuck someone already/probably already did this. Whats the fucking point."I guess the best a guitar based band can do is hope to make 'good' music right?
>>53292310Surely that's all that any band can hope to make, regardless of the members and instrumentation?
>>53292263agreed, it is the most forward thinking subgenre in punk
>>53292263>Implying
>>53292550>I have never listened to Trophy Scars
>>53292310Well sure, if you strum your guitar like you're supposed to everything's been taken up.But have you played your guitar as a drum? A violin?
>>53292550post-punk is utter shite
>>53292463Surely like... Noise-rock, grindcore, mathcore, powerviolence, etc?I mean, what pushes more boundaries, Daughters (Hell Songs Era) and The Locust, or Alexisonfire and The Amity Affliction?
>>53292575>I like angsty teen shit, therefore it's the best
two answers:the genre? no. the clash and the ramones are several degrees separated from any relevant modern musicthe ideology? yes. death grips (very relevant) have been described as punk-rap. run the jewels have been described as punk-rap. vaporwave ideology is basically punk ideology plus satire.
>>53292620>Implying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAd2wv_SzUI
All that's left of punk is those crappy "core" genres and and those idie fags trying to pussify post-punk. The only thing that really sticks is the attitude and ideologies.
Speaking of punk genres, what's become of deathrock? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q46V_n1V0us
>>53292598>a violinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnW6bV6OWmkguitar bowing is nothing new
>>53292696Pretty much this. "Punk" as a genre was only really relevant for a few years anyway. When post-punk and the hardcore and subgenred stuff started, the genre died pretty quickly. The ethos is still important, but the music itself hasn't been relevant for more than 30 years.
>>53292271kek
>>53288937Folk punk, but pretty much all of them are tryhards
>>53288937As about as relevant as your Mom, after I jizz all over her face.Punk's dead as disco son...
>>53294722Isn't the whole point of pulling out and cumming on her face that you enjoy the look/connotation of her having cum on her face - ergo, she's still pretty damn relevant to your enjoyment.
>>53290391That whole past cocksucking thing is the antithesis of punk.Being a young fag hanging on to 1977 or 80s hardcore is so opposite of punk that its fucking ridiculous, shit and even those old guys think its fucking stupid.Punk has become corny, and ever little shithead who thinks she or he is cool and forward for being punk in 2015 needs to be laughed at. Punk is like a defanged, declawed lion now. Bunch of fucking rehashes that sound new to teenagers because they haven't been around to hear the old shit. That's why every once in awhile you have a "PUNK IS BACK!" moment, followed by a "PUNK IS DEAD... AGAIN!!" moment, though all the shit just sounds like something old.
Was punk ever relevant?
La dispute is pretty neat
>>53289940>too patrician to say death grips:^)
>>53296583>i dont like it and you shouldnt eitherfuck off
Sleaford Mods
>>53288937I guess so.
the stooges ramones and british punk are the only worthwhile punk music>Grrrrrr im so angry living in california and dcya ok
>>53297042have you ever been to DC? it sucks
>>53293801well, i wonder if that guy meant physically playing guitar like violin (with a bow) or using violinist mindset to play things on guitar, like for eg. post rock guitarist with their reverb making sound textures
>>53288937Lets all pretend that whatever is relevant today is actually relevant, and that it actually matters.
>>53293801>parker flyboner
>>53297154brandon love needs to get off the internet and go look for a job.
hardcore punk is very relevant today and is coming back hard
>>53292271relevancy stopped being relevant when hipsterrunoff died
>>53297164please post a 2014 list no matter how short or long NO METAL!!
>>53297185backtrack, freedom, turnstile, angel du$t, take offense, rotting out, soul search
>>53297206the important question isIs Krautrock stil relevant?
>>53297253no
>>53297206>backtrack>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IjTsyEF0Vghow is this not metal? it even has a metal as fuck solo get real this is hardcore punkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JPi91NLgg0
>>53297271having a metal influence doesn't make you metal, they may be a little crossover but they're definitely hardcore. especially their older shit,
>>53297052so does the music
>>53297271hardcore and metal have been fusing more and more since the 80s look at madball or agnostic front
>>53297283a little? that first song is straight up stomp-core bro-fest. that is absolutely not a punk song come the fuck on.
>>53297292fusing? no fucking way. metal has simply been taking over.
>>53297307because bad brains or black flag never fucked with metal too, stop being puist assholes and appreciate the fact that hardcore bands are starting to write actually good riffs other than the same 3chord formula
>>53297337yeah and not all of their albums are hardcoreits a niche genre so it doesnt exactly take much to be a purist. everyone just loves the name hardcore thats it.kinda like salsa
>>53297356yeah but with different subgenres of hardcore popping up like crossover thrash, powerviolence, metalcore and shit its thriving harder than ever. and look at the big hardcore bands that are strictly hardcore punk that are killing it right now like Rotting Out, they're straight up skate punk from cali and they have toured with The Ghost Inside.
>>53288988>Meme Grips
sure it is, but rollins isn't.
Yeah. Don't let /mu/ tell you otherwise. Punk is alive and well in Russia and Eastern Europe as well as the U.S.
>>53289940whats so punk about rtj? they appeard on letterman or some show, thats not very punk
Hank Wood and the Hammerheads is the best punk band right now, especially live.
>>53291178If you are thinking of music on terms of "derivative" and "simple" then I don't think punk is for you.>>53296583Sounds like you don't know what punk is.
lol no
>>53297300but metal isn't a stomp-core bro fest
>>53298221Gas Rag is so fucking awesome. I'd say some bands are putting out relatively good punk music today.The worst of it is the P4K approved/forced all girl punk bands that are absolute shit like Perfect Pussy and Joanna Gruesome or whatever.
>>53300883Perfect Pussy is utter shit, but I've never heard Joanna Gruesome described as punk. I like them, but that would be pretty annoying.
>>53301176Idk maybe im thinking of Speedy Ortiz. I always get them mixed up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyRDDOpKaLM
Have you ever heard of 5 Seconds Of Summer or Blink 182 OP?
>>53301955>pop punk>relevant
No.53288937