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What do you think of Norwegian Black Metal?

>> No.53097423

>>53097396
Amongst my favourite musical movements.

>> No.53097450

>>53097396
I only like prog influenced ones like Enslaved

>> No.53097481

>>53097396
The earliest stuff can be great, most of it led to black metal being ruined by ambient and symphonic faggots

>> No.53097490

one of if not the most interesting trend(s) in popular music in the 20th century

too bad bm almost universally sucked for two decades now

>> No.53097534

>>53097490
>one of if not the most interesting trend(s) in popular music in the 20th century
hahaha

>> No.53097549

>>53097423
The kind of dude who would say 'amongst' is exactly the kind of dude who I would imagine really liking Norwegian black metal

>> No.53097597

The raw hardcore-influenced shit is good.
The symphonic and progressive shit is total cheese.
And the vocals on that album are hilarious. Vampire Bugs Bunny shit.

>> No.53097749

>>53097396
Does anybody have a good chart or list of early shit that isn't symphonic and cheesy and involved with some violent-ass people? That stuff seems to be the most interesting

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53097908

>>53097749
If you're looking for first wave and/or proto black metal here you go. I don't think there's one specifically for second wave though, if that's what you're referring to.

>> No.53097928

>>53097396
I think the whole "Anti-Christian gtfo off our lands you fundamental fucks" image was unnecessary. There's bands like Burzum, Enslaved, Emperor, etc etc, very innovative, original. Then there's bands like Mayhem and Gorgoroth. All in all, imho, the Norwegian scene was the most potential music scene ever. Absolutely amazing bands originated from here, leading to black metal spreading throughout all of Europe.

>> No.53097936

I like Mayhem's demos, the singles with Dead and the early live albums but it all went to shit when Euronymous was killed by a certain scrawny wannabe viking hipster
Darkthrone's first few albums are great, specially Under a Funeral Moon
Burzum has good vocals but is tremendously overrated
The symphonic/melodic bands fucking suck without exception
Immortal is pretty good but they're clearly taking the piss and their songwriting can get a bit boring

>> No.53098537

>>53097396
goat

>> No.53098597

>>53097908

>blasphemy
>first wave of black metal
>proto-extreme metal

u wot

>> No.53098626

>>53097936

emperor is bretty gud man

>> No.53098641

slightly ridiculous

>> No.53098656

Early Norwegian black metal is great but it's unfortunately the culprit that led up to atmo-shit, post-shit, and gazeshit.

South America, Greek, and Jap black metal's better only because it stays in the area of black metal's thrash/punk/raw roots.

>> No.53098725

>>53097928
Sorry if i'm misreading, but are you saying the bands you listed didn't do the "gtfo off our lands you fundamental fucks" thing? Varg in particular absolutely hated christianity for destroying norway's culture

>> No.53098759

>>53097928
Are you saying that Mayhem doesn't fall in the original and innovative category? They started the entire Norwegian scene.

>> No.53098773

>>53098641
same could be said about the concpt of music in general tbh. just accept the meme

>> No.53098823

>>53097928
>leading to black metal spreading throughout all of Europe

Norway was influential but black metal was already pretty well spread before Norway changed black metal.

Black metal's been in england, southern europe, south america, and japan before it started to grow massive in norway

>> No.53098824
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53098824

I think it's kvlt

>> No.53098887

>>53098641
>>53098773
honestly, the point of metal is to be as extreme and balls-to-the-wall and pushing the envelope as possible
so of course a bunch of it is gonna sound ridiculous

>> No.53099943

>>53098887
see your point, but the early american scene seems more of a laugh. like how Possessed manager forced them to finish high school. Norwegian metal is a bit joyless and po faced sometimes. there's something to be said for rock spelt with an 'a'.

>> No.53099977

>>53098887
>metal has a point
Way to miss it

>> No.53099980

>>53099943
and a 'w' , heh

>> No.53100016

>>53099977
I don't think you understand. The history of metal can be considered in terms of levels of intensity. Considered in this way, black metal shows itself to be a culmination or endpoint of this history, and also a dead end. The historical development of extreme metal is not a chance series of stylistic shifts. It is teleological - governed by a dimly understood but acutely felt Ideal, or a final cause. This final cause is named the Haptic Void. The Haptic Void is a hypothetical total or maximal level of intensity. It is the horizon of the history of metal. Orientation towards the Haptic Void is expressed as feeling. The feeling is a unity, but in thought we can break it down into four elements: There is first of all a certain muscular clenching, a constriction of the jaws, fists, arms and chest. Secondarily there is an affect: a certain aggression or brutality, a paradoxical sense of power, destruction, fullness and emptiness. Thirdly it features a primordial satisfaction relating to the affect which acts normatively. Good metal produces a satisfying bouquet of clenching, constriction and brutal affect. Finally there is a barely discernable je ne sais quoi that says “not enough”. A complementary dissatisfaction – as though no brutal breakdown can be quite brutal enough. It is a fissure, a crack, a lack of being. An insufficiency compared to the promised plenitude.

>> No.53100058

>>53100016
yeah but what about getting a pizza and playing the playstation you know? there's only so many impaled sheep's heads you can bring to the party.

>> No.53100089

>>53100016
I guarantee that second wave black metal is the only kind of heavy metal music you listen to.

>> No.53100097

Swedish Black Metal is and will always be better.

>> No.53100112

>>53100016
If you think br00tality is a meaningful metric on which to force a genre of music to aspire, then sure, enjoy your shitty edge-pushing xxxtreem metal.

>> No.53100172

>>53100097
tick

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