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>MIDI is deprecated edition
Post the track you're working on, discuss general music production. Learn why microtonal musical spiders are the next big thing and why depression fueled production is not.

Stuff:

>/prod/ wiki
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com/wiki//mu/sic_Production_Wiki

>Pastebin (updated)
http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q

>Sound Synthesis and Sampling (book):
http://www48.zippyshare.com/v/20999348/file.html

>Intro to Synthesis (video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atvtBE6t48M [Embed]

>> No.52837302
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52837302

Still waiting on the semi-jazzy guy who promised me a new bass version on his track and perhaps a collab. Hit me up bruh!

>> No.52837468

>>52837302
jo, posted in the old thread.
here it is : https://clyp.it/k0jt5d1f

i think its better, but maybe not there yet.

>> No.52837602

>>52837468
hey i'm the one who said it was muddy. sounds a lot cleaner now, nice job. shit is real chilled out I like it a lot.

>> No.52837675

>>52837468
>https://clyp.it/k0jt5d1f

much more what i had in mind, now we're talking

great job with the bass, hard to believe this is the same guy to be honest, you're starting to nail it

>> No.52837709

>>52837602
thanks man, you were right. the master was a bit distorted. sidechained some stuff for more room and filtered some unnecessary frequencies.
also added a very small reverb with a metallic damp to the snare and some distortion.
PSP Easyverb is really the shit for those small reverbs just to give it that extra space and realism.

>> No.52837764

>>52837468
>https://clyp.it/k0jt5d1f
damn MUCH better

>> No.52837801

>>52837468

same guy who asked you to improve the bass and asked you for a collab

seriously dude, now you have to finish it or i will have to, we have a song here

>> No.52837802

>>52837675
cool, i often just need a little direction, it can be really though to figure everything out for yourself, especially if you're working on something for hours on end, i tend to lose touch with what the song needs.

I'm definitely gonna keep varying the bass, it's fun as heck.

So let's collab sometime?

>> No.52837844

>>52837801
dope! let's work together on some shit. if you're always as on point with criticism we could make cool stuff.

>> No.52837854

>>52837802

know exaclty what you mean, just keep doing what you do cause it's painfully obvious you have a huge amount of talent

i'm still available and still am interested in collabing, this is the shit, let's work this out

>> No.52837889

>>52837844

ok hold on drop me a message on idiotisterecords at soundcloud and we'll work something out

>> No.52837893

lol i think there's more than two people trying to collab here

>> No.52837902

>tfw listening to your own music all day because you like it so much despite the fact you're so amateur and nobody else seems to care the slightest

do i need to go completely crazy before i'll be any good?

>> No.52837963

How do I downtempo, everything I produce sounds aggressive

>> No.52838004

>>52837854
thanks that means a lot. believe me i make a lot of bad/mediocre stuff and been doing this for years.
wait so you are not >>52837889
?

anyway would love to collab even if it's two guys lol!

>>52837889
i'll drop a message. pretty cool, you started your own label?!

>> No.52838056

>>52838004

i am both guys you linked to but have contacts in the right places and wouldn't want to steal you for my own shitty label, i'll get you where you belong if we get this right

>> No.52838354

I just ordered a field recorder, what do I record when I get it?

>> No.52838371

>yfw depression fueled microtonal spiders are the future of music

>> No.52838399

Reposting works for a collab anons posted a few days ago on old /prod/ thread, someone added the BPM but sadly I didn't jot them down.

https://clyp.it/su5in0ys
https://clyp.it/24b5ugdf
https://clyp.it/kuljg0vr

>> No.52838403

>>52838354

everything

you're going to hate adding extraneous samples to your tracks after a while

>>52838371

just become a microtonal spider and it'll all work out

>> No.52838444

>>52838399
the two short ones are 80 or 90 bpm, and the long one is 110 bpm if I remember it right

>> No.52838469

>>52838403
it's a pretty good feel actually

>> No.52838642

>>52838444
this is correct

>> No.52839073

Hey just for fun here's every Sound On Sound magazine from 2014, except for december's edition:

https://mega.co.nz/#!RdV2jTQI!ASjm8oO2jphRdNdG5dw22rYZO_H0WQ2NxTG_hubS48E

>> No.52839200

>>52838354
>>52838403

Depends, I like recording found sounds, gates creaking, electric pylons humming, machinery, all sorts. While walking the dog today I found a big bit of forest that had been cleared and a huge digger piling up huge stacks of wood on fires, steal the upto a fire and recorded it!

More to the point your gonna love spending hours recording loads of cool or really boring stuff, then spend hours upon hours editing it all down.

I did exactly that this evening took all my recordings off my recorder and edited and catalogued them all. Try and keep your recordings short

>> No.52839309
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52839309

Guys, if one of my track seems to clip because of a distortion effect or a filter with low cut off at a specific point, can I use a compressor to prevent it from going over or prevent it from sounding really loud? Or is it a bad idea to use a compressor as a limiter? It's pic related.

>> No.52839327

>>52839309
Like I said, i was thinking of putting a compressor on the master send of the synth group, as it's the track that is clipping because of a filter with low cut off and at another point because of distortion.

>> No.52839343

>>52839309
A limiter is literally just a compressor with a very high ratio. Once the ratio is at 10:1 and above, the compressor is considered to be a limiter.

>> No.52839395

Hey /mu/
I'm just installing Ableton Live 9 for the first time, I was never into production, never composed music, and know shit about music composition at all.
I don't want to make good things, just use some samples, make some loops and have a good time, I'm not even interested in sharing my creation, just have some fun with it.
Where would you recommend me to start so I can understand the software? What should I try doing first?

>> No.52839436

>>52839395
use the supplied demo track and make changes to it to figure it out... and youtube what you cant figure it out

>> No.52839479

>>52839395
>understanding the software
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmOEanhDTGo

Not to be rude my friend, but it's in the pastebin. You'll find links there to info that will teach you a lot of interesting things.

>> No.52839594

>>52839343
Oooohhh. That's interesting; I'll try slapping a limiter or compressor on it and see how it goes. if not I'll set a maximum value for the filter an distortion where it doesnt clip.

>> No.52840464

>>52839395

if you manage to make a single sine wave beep i'd be proud of you, that's about as far as i'd expect someone like you to go.. in other words, learn the program, don't go in over your head

>> No.52840482

>>52839309

that is essentially what compressors are for, if you shut off the make up gain it'll be much more obvious how they work. set the threshold at a level that keeps the sound from peaking above your acceptable levels and you'll have a good time. good luck

>> No.52841012

>>52838371
lmao. i keked in real life.

>> No.52841057

OP, don't you ever sleep?

>> No.52841060

>>52839073
neato, thanks mate <3 anyone got more stuff like this?

>> No.52841122

>>52840482
>>52840482
If it reaches the top, or goes red, or triggers the square to the left (in renoise's case) it means its invariably clipping if I'm not mistaken. Isn't that always bad? could I just say "hurrr its like that on purpose muh artistic liberties" and it would still sound good or people would listen to it?

I already shut off the PC and am gonna take a shower but tomorrow I will resume working on it and will put a compressor on it. I was just worried I would be using the compressor incorrectly.

>> No.52841162

>>52841122

it depends on your signal chain

i let individual instruments run red all the time as long as i got a good and strong limiter running on the master, and i work personally with engineers that bob katz asks for advice, ain't nobody gonna tell you what's right or wrong if you know what you're doing

>> No.52841402

>>52841162
wow that sounds really sloppy to me for some reason lmao. I thought of limiter on the master but instead thought like "dur I'll fix the problem at the root". I it doesn't really work that way. I'll do that first and then see if I still need a comp on the instrument track.

>> No.52841420

>>52839395

http://www.musictheory.net/lessons
http://www.sadowickproduction.com/software-courses/#/ableton-live-ultimate-course/

Sadowick is a GEM if you want to know how to use Ableton even for fun.

>> No.52841554

>>52841420
>someone saved the music theory link I posted
made my night :)

>> No.52841629

yo faggots
here's more music theory 4 kids

http://tobyrush.com/theorypages/index.html

>> No.52841631

>>52841420
Gonna check it out, thanks!

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52842044

>>52841420
True that

Picrelated is my DJ/Live PA/Live Production Setup. I have a chain of effects on each deck group, along with individual filters/EQs for Decks 1-4. The Remix Deck simply houses drums/synths/samplers that I use for producing live and/or any projects I want to play "live" which I could tweak anyway I want by mapping whatever controls/effects/clips I want to my Launchpad/TouchOSC setup.

Also, is there anyway to set the Launchpad up on a different midi channel? It seems that no matter which ID number I assign to it, the Launchpad controls keep conflicting with my TouchOSC Midi mapping.

>> No.52843446

blunt

>> No.52843507

vape

>> No.52843556

recording tracks tomorrow
gunna be sweet (and by sweet i mean frustrating beyond belief)

>> No.52843614

>>52843446
dean blunt
>>52843507
vaporwave
2 fav things

>> No.52843656

>>52841060
No, but you can find several years work of sound on sound articles on rutracker.org in one torrent collection.

I mean I've got a bunch of production related books but I already uploaded them and they're in the paste bin (the book bundle in there).

>> No.52843701

>>52843556
what type of música are u recording man?

>> No.52843847

>>52843701
punk music
should be fun but we got a lot of work to do

>> No.52843994

>>52843847
any particular subgenre or just like straight high school punk?

>> No.52844215

>>52843994
hardcore punk i guess
not like edgy highschool "i hate school" punk

>> No.52845215

Do you know of any book or whatever that will explain why some chords can be beautiful and sad?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AWIqXzvX-U

I remember finding a guy's website where he explained the different feelings in chords with graphs but I can't find the site any more.

>> No.52845457
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52845457

Hey /prod/

just started producing a few months ago, so any advice would be appreciated

Yesterday, I started with this piece, got this so far, not sure on how to continue. I'd like to top it off with a meme sample of someone reading a book or something, wouldn't that be too cliche? What other instruments could I add?

https://clyp.it/ny2b2v31

>> No.52845515

>>52845457
>wouldn't that be too cliche?
Probably, but if it feels right it's right.

>> No.52845587

>>52845215
learn some music theory, scales, modes, listen to some jazz (which is in my opinion the most advanced genre, harmonics-wise), try playing it. You will soon see which intervals between notes make the chords sound "sad", which ones "majestic" and shit, then you can add them together so the chord sounds "majestic and sad".

It's really hard to explain, since certain chords give me different emotions in different contexts - that's why I recommend jazz, as you'd likely encounter chords in completely different contexts even in one melody or song.

>> No.52845603

>>52845587
Thanks

>> No.52846215

Is this thread dead?

>> No.52846240
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52846240

I got ableton light with a focusrite interface. Can I use ableton light with this microphone?
Seems like the ableton lite programme that came with the focusrite is exclusive to it
But I wanna use this mic too when recording and producing music

>> No.52846384

Is there a way to use the Soundfont Player and Wasp in FL Studio 64bit? They're not available in 64bit, but it should be possible to bridge the 32bit versions...right?

>> No.52846423
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52846423

Damn, this is sexy.

If only it wasn't the size of a football field and was about 80% cheaper.

>> No.52846551

Anyone know any good drum sample packs to torrent? Or should I just get bazzism and stop being a bitch?

>> No.52847045

>>52846551
Record the sounds of my balls smacking against your forehead, cut out the best bits, eq, compress and use that to make your percussive parts.

>> No.52847055

>>52846240
It'll work fine.

>> No.52847076

>>52846551
I hate bazzism, I find that while you can adjust the parameters all you want, it still sounds like it was made with bazzism

The Vengeance packs are great even though they're extremely played out. I do so much editing and processing to my drum samples that it doesn't matter where they came from anymore, and Vengeance has a good palette of sounds for me to work with

Apart from that, look up drum sample packs on torrent sites, it's hit and miss most of the time

>> No.52847077

>>52846551
I'd also enjoy a suggestion of this kind

What I have been mostly doing is getting drum packs from genres that have an interesting sound (lately it has been traditional indian (dot, not feather) drums and some minimal techno sounds), and then try to incorporate them with my own style.. but this is obviously limited in the genres I know. I can't possibly spend 8+ hours a day listening to various tracks, trying to find interesting drum sounds..

>> No.52847130
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52847130

here's a screenshot of my current project for u nerds that like that stuff

atmospheric and ethnic thing with trap influence

>> No.52847138

>>52847077
Just download all the drum packs you find. Everything has a use.
But obviously don't download 8 packs of tribal percussion if you don't need it- create a big but efficient library

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52847152

>>52847138
>mfw 8 packs of tribal percussion
>use each of them regularly

>> No.52847172

>>52847152
key phrase being "if you don't need it"
also got any links to them?

>> No.52847192

>>52847045
When and where can we meet to have this arranged?

>> No.52847213

>>52847192
Hmmm...I have to send off some masters on Friday and have social engagements at the start of next week...How about Thursday 22nd here in London. I can crack out the C414 if you like.

>> No.52847228

>>52847213
Sure thing

>> No.52847355

So if I've got over 4GB of RAM, but the DAW is 32bit, does it at least mean the DAW gets the full 4GB instead of sharing them with whatever else the computer's doing? Everything else gets out of the way, or will a bunch of stuff hog "the first 4GB" if that even makes sense?

Also, how many of you are using 64bit DAWs, anyway? I'm guessing for synths and effects, the CPU is the real bottleneck? Just if I wanna run a few orchestral Kontakt libraries and such? I probably can't get half of my plugins in 64bit.

>> No.52847421

>>52847355
I know barely anything about all that stuff but I'm using Ableton 9, Massive, Nexus, Sylenth and a myriad of other random plugins on one of the shittest desktop computers
I just keep it relatively unclogged of data, use my effects wisely and it's fine. So I wouldn't worry about it

>> No.52847449

>>52847355
i forget the exact name, but there's a program you can use to "bridge" all your 32bit vst's to 64bit. I wanna say it's "jbridge" or something. It's a touch wonky, but I was able to get about ~90% of my 32 bit plugins (that I used in FL 10) to work in my 64 bit Ableton with the bridge dealio

>> No.52847463
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52847463

Ok /mus/ I posted this in the prev /prod/ thread.

clyp.it/l054lacd

I just started producing and wanted some feedback. This, I kinda like, I will finish this later. Just made a quick arrangement. Don't mind the lack of mastering and or repetition. Like I said threw it together.

I already got feedback about adding more percussion and having variety with the percussion. Also the vocal samples are a bit repetitive so I will add some more.

>pls listen to the whole thing, having a hard time with fighting repetition, I just did whole octave chord switches... I find converting a melody in my head to chords the hardest thing to do, I hate it when I have the first chord and I know exactly what I want with my next one, but I just can't find it and it probably has maybe a 2 note difference

Am I heading in the right direction?

P.s the track will make you want to go to the bathroom.

>> No.52847521

>>52847463
*/mu/

Where does /prod/ get their vocal samples from? I tried a few of those packs but I just don't like those vocals most of the time. They just sound "off" or something.

>> No.52847530

>>52847463
10/10 it's ok

>> No.52847540

>>52847463
I'd use a different sample for the snare.
Maybe a click or a clap or even a snare that sounds less like one that came out of a rock drums sample pack

It's pretty good in general, all of the improvements you can make relate to deeper/more advanced techniques in music production, but here are some things that I thought of

>Give the bass more upper harmonics (Light distortion or a layer. Look up tutorials on giving 808 kicks more punch)
>The kick could hit harder. Use a tougher compressor, parallel compression or a different kick sound
>Try to come up with a chorus chord progression. Everything sounds like a verse or bridge so far
>Find some more vocal chops to use (As you mentioned)

Most of all, keep at it and don't abandon the track until it's as good as you can get it. If you start to hate it, put it aside for a few days and come back to it.

>> No.52847543

>>52847521
i generally sample most of mine from cartoons, other songs, speeches, etc. got about a half gig of .wavs I've chopped from stuff in the last half year

i tend to have the worst time finding samples I like in vocal sample packs, as opposed to finding say, good kick drums or stabs, so I wouldn't worry too much

>> No.52847552

>>52847521
Random acapellas that get compiled over time
The odd sample pack will have a "vocal phrases" section in there. I know vengeance has a vocals pack but it isn't great

>> No.52847554

>>52847521
Pay a singer, nigger.

>> No.52847624

>>52847530
Hehe ok, thanks.

>>52847540
Yes lel, the snare was the first random snare I picked and haven't changed it since then...

>The bass sounds simple but I find it damn hard. I just want to learn rhythm also.
>Kick sucks, it's soft yes. I have a hard time getting the "umpf" out of it. Will try.
>The chords are going to kill me, I have no idea where to go next with it.
>Vocals is the easiest part I think as long as I find good stuff.

Thanks for the feedback. Appreciate it. Anything else it is missing though? Maybe I can add a high pitched synth at some point? Maybe with an arp? Don't know.

Can I post something else? I tried a bit of deep house. But it has the same problems.

>>52847543
Cool thanks, I think you can find surprisingly good samples in speeches and stuff yes. Will try.

>> No.52847646

>>52847552
Yeah those I talk about, they mostly sound off as far as I know. I don't like those singers at all.

>>52847554
Man I just started with this stuff, I have no idea what to do. If you pay a singer do you let them do ALL the work? I mean, the lyrics also?

>> No.52847727

>>52847624
It all starts with good samples/synth sounds
You can tweak things a lot but you will have a much much much better time producing if you start with good sounds. In saying that, torrent a Vengeance sample pack or 10.

>Torrent a synth- I recommend Sylenth as it will teach you the basics of synthesis but isn't too hard to use.
>Use a piano sound or something basic for the chords, then change the sound later
>Find a well known song that's in the same key as yours and look for the acapella for it. There are more acapellas than you'd think.

Not much else is missing, downtempo(ish) tracks don't often have many elements.
Of course you should try an arp or a lead line. Try adding some quiet hi-hats or more percussion. If it doesn't work you'll know instantly.
Subtle changes are the key to pretty much all electronic music

And yeah go for it, I'm happy to give more advice

>> No.52847743

>>52847646
Don't pay a singer you knob, only do that if you actually want proper vocals on a track. If you do that- give them guidance to style and lyrics but let them do their own thing too

>> No.52847818

>>52847130
here's the track so far, been working on it for about 7 hours now

https://soundcloud.com/ollie-winton/primitive/s-WrAe2

>> No.52847983

>>52841122
sharing an example of digital clipping being used creatively
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyM91Z_C44s

>> No.52848082

>>52847818
>gets me excited with the screenshot
>posts it in SC link and not clyp.it

yablewit.jpg

>> No.52848120

>>52848082
What's wrong with SC?

>> No.52848131

>>52848082
Check that 808 negro

>> No.52848263

>>52847818
wow

this is truly amazing

I'm high as fuck here producing a bit
check the /prod/
hear this track
wow this nigga higher than I am
and the production is so good
10/10 bruh

>> No.52848278

>>52848120
I have no idea also, new here so.

>>52847818
I like it man. Liked. Liking the Arabic/Punjabi feeling to it. One thing, I think the part from 1:40 till 2:07 needs at least one variation. It repeats 2 times and I'm not 100% sure if I like it.

Pls teach me though! I am >>52847463

How did you do the vocals? Is it a compressed reverb or something? I have no idea because I am new to this. Loving the percussion. Please tell me about the synth at 2:38, what does the piano roll look like? I love that.

>> No.52848280

>>52848263
thank you so much man
i've been in a period of writer's block for about 2 months straight now and started to resent producing
sat down today and that just happened, I've literally only stopped to piss and eat

funny how things work out sometimes

>> No.52848286

>>52848263
Samefag?

>> No.52848298

Does anyone know where this synth came from, or how it is created? At 0:56, the one going up:

>soundcloud . com/shemquestionmark/bubbly-bulbasaur-x-diversa-lost-shm-edit

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52848319

>>52845515
ok, I progressed a bit, added some synth and bass

https://clyp.it/ebbsr1nq

any ideas now?

it got a bit cheesy though.

Still want to finish it with a sample.

>>52848280
how long have you been producing man?

also if interested check my WIP - it's very minimalistic and more athmospheric...

>>52848286
no

>> No.52848353
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52848353

>>52848286
nope, reply to both posts and I'll screenshot it for you to show it's not me

>>52848278
Thanks for the feedback, since uploading that I've put a shaker in the second repetition which made me chuckle when I read your comment hahah

I'm the guy that was giving you massive paragraphs of advice!
There aren't any vocals in the track, where are you hearing them?

The synth at 2:38 is a Nexus patch called "Poppy Bells" with EQ and effects on it

>> No.52848363

>>52848353
No need for screenshot, I believe you.

>> No.52848372

what´s the secret to make your sounds sound like they should on sites like clyp and sc?
my stuff always sounds like complete shit there.
i know it´s my mixing/mastering but i don´t know where to look

>> No.52848376

>>52848319
I've been producing for about 2 years

Your track is cool, reminds me of stuff Oneohtrix Point Never would use

>> No.52848383

I know this isn't entirely production related, but I'm a NEET and I usually sleep until I wake up naturally, but today I slept 6,5 - 7 hours and I feel slightly tired and I can't produce anything and it's getting me so fucking angry

I've had 3 coffees already and they did nothing

It doesn't help that I'm uninspired once again

>> No.52848392

>>52841420
sadowick awlays use loops / pre made loops.
from samplepacks.


fucking lazy as fuck.

>> No.52848395

>>52848372
You mean the compression due to the lower bitrate used for streaming makes your tracks sound bad?
It's usually not a massive problem because it's fairly hard to hear the difference between 320 and 192 kbps anyway, but here's a good article on it
https://www.izotope.com/en/community/blog/tips-tutorials/2014/06/mastering-for-compressed-audio-formats/

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52848413

>>52848376
>Oneohtrix Point Never
that's literally my biggest musical hero

nigga I'm blushing as fuck

no homo

>> No.52848430

>>52848383
Iktfb. I feel like my whole day is thrown off if I get woken up/don't get a good sleep. Sometimes I nap, but it's not the same.

>> No.52848434

>>52848413
Haha yeah he's definitely in my top 5
Your influence from him comes through in your tracks

>>52848383
Try again tomorrow. You can't force it unless you have a deadline
Try doing a collaboration or a remix competition if you really need motivation

>> No.52848448

>>52848353
Oh wow thanks man, appreciate all the advice.

Did you remove the track? I can't play it lel. But the sound starting at 0:08 really sounded like a male "hummm" or something, I now hear I was wrong. Thanks for that screenshot, that's some good shit.

>> No.52848456

>>52848430
Napping just makes me more tired or makes me feel like shit after so I avoid it.

I feel like going out and buying 4 Redbulls and just downing them at once but I know it's not going to do anything and that it would be a ridiculous idea.

>> No.52848466

>>52848448
Nope, track is still there, but you need to use the private link. Here it is again just in case
https://soundcloud.com/ollie-winton/primitive/s-WrAe2

It's actually the Oud sample (The guitar sounding thing) with heavy reverb and pitched down an octave. But yeah it kind of does sound like a choir of monks or something

>> No.52848473

>>52848456
>downing 4 redbulls
pretty sure you'd be dead afterwards

>> No.52848502

>>52848395
yes that´s what i mean. i always feel like the overall quality goes down while certain things llike hats get distorted a lot.
when i listen to a record i own physically and then listen to it on soundcloud this doesn´t happen that much/obviously so i guess it´s my bad mixing/mastering.
thanks for the link! i´ll try the metioned methods

>> No.52848527

>>52848456
Just spend those times you feel uninspired playing with your synth/learning technical stuff.

Also, have a side project you don't mind if it sucks. I make mainly dream pop, recording an EP, and I want it to be great. But, sometimes I make sampled hip hop beats. Load up some tracks, chop it up, see what happens. Sometimes it's good, sometimes not.

But the key is I'm in a groove again, and using sampling helps my skills. It's a great little escape. So yeah, have a shitty side project you don't care about, it helps with writer's block.

>> No.52848536

>>52848502
you must have an ear for subtleties, which is good
and yeah lower bitrate affects the really high frequencies first and makes cymbals sound watery and distorted

>> No.52848553
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52848553

I need help guys.

I've been producing (or better said, learning and attempting) for about 2 years now. All this time I still haven't made a full song I'm proud of. I have almost nothing to show for myself. I feel like I need it to motivate myself, I feel like I need something I can show people and have online so I can finally call myself a producer. The only full track I ever made was probably completely accidental and even then it's only 4 minutes long which is nothing for a house track, and the drop/chorus is too short and repetitive, and the verse/melody is basically the same as the drop. I get these terrible thoughts that maybe being creative and making music isn't my thing, but really it's all I want in life, to make music, yet I just feel like I can't. I'm extremely uninspired, or I hit a wall, and some days I make a drum loop and geniunely realise I have no idea how to make a decent melody or compose a track after 2 years of producing.

I don't know what it is, but the creative process is completely blocked in me. I might be able to make a "drop", but then I can't come up with a melody before it. Or I want to use a vocal loop and spend hours listening to fucking acapellas and can't find anything decent. Or maybe I'll hear a song with an interesting sound and spend hours trying to learn how to do it but there's no tutorials available and I give up for the day.

I can't exactly tell what it is, but it's driving me insane. I just want to open my DAW and make music for fucks sake but I can't.

I'm not sure if I can even call my case being uninspired because I know what I want to do and I constantly hear tracks that make me want to open my DAW and start making shit.

>> No.52848565

>>52848392

True, but as long as somebody learns every function of a DAW (along with the concepts of compression and EQ), they can do anything they want with the program. If they know music theory they can do even more.

>> No.52848594

>>52848553
I had the exact same thing, except I'd finish tracks and then hate them (They weren't that good anyway) or I'd abandon things halfway through

You need to find new interest in your creative process. In other words you're uninspired. Download a new Synth or get some new drum packs. Try to make heaps of genres (This has helped me so much) even if you know nothing about them.
Analyse your favourite songs and work out how to make the sounds in them

I broke my writer's block today and it's a great feeling, you just have to be patient.
Most of all, don't force anything and if you can't make music, go and do something constructive (Learn a new hobby, work out etc.)

>> No.52848605

>>52848553
2 years is not long at all. I didn't consider myself "good" until like 5 years of producing, and now I look back at that, and I'm a lot better.

Sounds cliche, but it's the journey, not the destination. As for improving, learn music theory, take up new instruments, examine songs you like/see why they work, etc. Parts of a track should always lead to the next thing, always build/release tension. It's like telling a story, setups/payoffs.

>> No.52848619
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52848619

Have any of you guys switched DAW and found it to make a huge difference? I am not looking for any recommends as I am currently learning Sonar and finding excellent so far. But I still have a nagging doubt that I may hit a road block one day. I am not looking to bail out but I am interested to hear stories of how a change of DAW made a huge and worthwhile impact.

>> No.52848633

>>52848553

You need to read the DAW manual/watch more videos thoroughly so that you understand everything about it. The problem here is - like you said - you're not uninspired, but you keep repeating the same process. You need to take whatever you're doing and do something totally opposite. Once you start broadening your horizons your creativity will flourish. For example, you're making a house track and you're not digging it. Who cares. You have to finish it no matter how shitty it is. Once that track is done, forget about it and go on to the next one but incorporate something new and different. Soon enough you might want to revisit that house track and add something else to it.

The greatest advice I ever heard from a producer was from Dr. Dre who said that:

“I listen to everybody’s shit…Even RnB, I listen to classical music sometimes, I listen to heavy metal. I just listen to everything…really I listen to the wack shit more because I want to know what not to do. You know, the stuff that’s not selling. It’s easy to pick up a hit record and know what people are buying.”

>> No.52848638

>>52848619
I'd love to try Bitwig some day but at the moment I'm so comfortable on Ableton and haven't found that there's anything I can't do that I probably won't switch until it becomes outdated
Burial uses Sony Soundforge, so it's not what you use, it's the way in which you use it

>> No.52848645

>>52848619
I started with logic, then I tried ableton. I went from hating music production to loving it. I also recently tried reason and It's much better for sound creation, but a lot worse for structure and speed IMO.

>> No.52848659

Guys I need help.
The 'label' that published my last album wants to make a show featuring all of their artists (not many) and wants me to play live. I'm a tracker-based musician, and I wouldn't like to be one of those "hit play, put hands in the air" guy. What do I do?

>> No.52848664

Ok so if someone says this, talking about progressions:

>D-9 | C-9 | Bbmaj7 | A7#9b13

1. What is a D-9? Is that a major with added 9th?
2. Does these 4 mean, just these 4 chords? I don't get it. How much can a person with good music theory do with these 4?

>> No.52848666

Does anyone here use Reason? Why do you use it?

>> No.52848672

>>52848659
Torrent ableton. Learn to DJ. Stay up all night doing it.

>> No.52848687

>>52848638
Only discovered the existence of Bitwig yesterday and took a look at the website. I love the clean look of the interface and the price is very reasonable too. Again, I am very happy with Sonar atm but after looking at Ableton and now Bitwig, I can't help wondering if Sonars rather tacky and messy looking UI could be a hindrance when I finally get my 'flow'.

>> No.52848690

>>52848659
You have a few options
>Ask your label for advice
>Make an excuse as to why you can't
>Pre-record a mix and then mime DJing
>Pull a Sophie and get some one else to DJ for you
>Learn how to DJ in very little time (Not recommended)

Honestly this is why all electronic music producers should learn how to DJ

>> No.52848692

>>52848666
check em.
Also I love reason because of its incredibly unique layout and approach sound creation. However I use it more as a VST in conjunction with live than a standalone DAW. Best of both worlds.

>> No.52848706

>>52848690
Where do you start? Let's say you want to play a live Ableton set. What sort of things do you do? I'm a different anon.

>> No.52848717

>>52848664
D-9 probably means a major 9th chord. A normal D major chord with an added 9th would more likely be said as "DMaj ad9"

I don't understand your second question, they're just four chords. You can play inversions of them or break them down into arpeggios.

>> No.52848721

>>52837231
Did this with a cheat (of sort) by using BiAB MIDI arranger whipped it up in an our or so anyone using the same tricks with similar software?
https://soundcloud.com/egoeastrecords/nn-last-love-waltz

>> No.52848732

>>52848659
I just started producing so my advice won't help, but anyway... What are they expecting of "live"? DJ or some real live shit like using controllers to manipulate beats, create them on the fly?

I also just tried to DJ and I just use my pc keyboard and it's way easier than I thought. I already started practicing mixing by ear (not looking at Traktor's sync shit). Spend a good week and you could do it. At least if you know all the tracks well enough.

>> No.52848739

>>52848706
I have no idea how DJ sets with Ableton work, as I and all of my friends only use CDJs

>> No.52848748

>>52848672
>>52848690
I'm fucked then.
I don't even make DJable music.

>> No.52848750

>>52848717
Thanks, your second answer is enough. So if I know the key I can add more chords right?

>> No.52848759

>>52848664
D9 is D F# A C E

Root-D
Major 3rd- F#
Fifth-A
Minor 7th-C
9th (major second really)- E

Learn your theory, do some reading. Musictheory.net is a good place to start.

>> No.52848762

>>52848748
Neither does Oneohtrix Point Never but have you seen his Boiler Room show?
I say consult a friend or your label for advice and in the meantime, find a way to learn how to DJ
You could always use the sync function but you still need practise mixing songs

>> No.52848776

>>52848750
Yeah of course, when you have the key you have access to all of the chords in that key

>> No.52848884

>>52848762
I don't know man.
Hell, I don't even use hardware to make my music.
I guess I'll ask the label for advice. Thanks.

>> No.52848909

>>52848706
motherfucker ableton is the easiest program to 'dj live' with. it's literally designed with that activity in mind

>> No.52848945

>>52848762
*practice
Someone made the same mistake in the last thread but I let it slide; hope it's not the same anon.

>> No.52848954

>>52848659
People have already offered you good advice but here's my addition.

You should open the gig, maybe with an Ableton Live session. You could ask to gig in a different room/bar area/terrace area where it will be a more laid back environment if the location has more than one area to DJ. Make an edit of your tracks so they're more suited for live performance or DJing if you're going to use decks.

I don't know the specifics of your music, the location of the gig, etc, so I can't offer you better advice.

But realistically if you've never had in mind playing live just tell your label that you don't do live performances and to give your spot to someone else.

>> No.52848963

>>52848909
I mean I know how to use the program, but like what do you do? I get transitioning between tracks smoothly/having your tracks warped/ready to go.

But I mean it seems kinda boring to just press play/switch tracks efficiently. I want it to be a performance, you know? What do you, just noodle around with filter sweeps/beat repeats?

>> No.52848983
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52848983

I'm finally going to do it, boys!

Just waiting for the seller to reply to my question about the shipping and I think I'm finally going to get the one synth I always wanted.

>> No.52848991

>>52848759
>D F# A C E
I tried to play that on the piano and I had to use both hands. Music really is infinite, huh.

>>52848963
>noodle around with filter sweeps/beats
Mainly, yeah. But you can also add/deactivate effects, add/subtract notes on the midi roll, play with the balance, shit like that. You know how to use Ableton, bro. Figure it out.

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52848996

>>52848945
Fucking idiot.

>> No.52849003

What are the essentials for producing generic "deep" house?

Already have an M1 plugin, 909s, 808s, but I need more essentials and general advice for producing this genre.

Thank you

>> No.52849029

>>52848983
that looks pretty neat-o. so you hook that up to a controller via MIDI or USB and it does all the synthing? pretty pricey bro i bet it's good!

>> No.52849039

>>52849003
Vengeance house packs are a good starter (Easily torrented)
Sylenth is pretty much the go-to house synth (The first stepping stone anyway)
Look up deep house chords and articles on producing it
Copy your favourite songs- they'll turn into your original piece not long after starting

>> No.52849050

>>52848996
>Rose Bay
lel aussies and their adherence to briddish inglish

speak 'merican, cunt

>> No.52849058

>>52848692
>I use it more as a VST in conjunction with live than a standalone DAW. Best of both worlds.

I've heard this a lot when asking around about Reason. If only I could afford both worlds!

>> No.52849072
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52849072

>>52848996
>holyshit
English is not my native language. Guess you learn something new erry day.

>> No.52849095

>>52848954
Makes sense. I'll keep you guys updated.

>> No.52849097

>>52846240

samson has some genius advertisement methods. i clicked on that picture for reasons entirely separate from it being a microphone

>> No.52849109

>>52849029
Precisely. It has a shit ton of effects that can be used simultaneously so I could even use a toaster to sequence it if I wanted to. If this works out, I don't think I'll need any other gear for a long time.

Who am I kidding, this is a slippery slope.

>> No.52849142

>>52849058
>afford
Learn to torrent negro.
Although I have hear Reason is notoriously hard to crack.

>> No.52849153

Can anyone explain stereo width to me?
All I seem to do when modifying that knob is adding a highpass filter.

>> No.52849161

>>52849109
>slippery slope
you're tellin' me. i bought a ribbon mic some time ago and it blew me away so i had to buy a pair of ribbon mics so i can do stereo recording but they don't make the one i already have anymore so i bought two new ones but ribbons need lots of clean gain and my new usb interface wasn't cutting it so now i'm buying preamps and pretty soon i'm $500 in ':|

thank god i'm starting a new job next week

>> No.52849191

>>52849142
It's notoriously hard to fuckin do anything with it. I couldn't even demo the damn thing. The download from their site takes like 13 hours; wish I could find a torrent or mirror or just the demo cus I only want to try it. Not gonna go through the trouble of torrenting full version and setting it up just to find out I don't like it. It was probably just my bad luck experience but Reason and I started on the wrong foot.

>> No.52849201
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52849201

>>52849153
Mono is when the sound is in the middle. Stereo width is when it gives the effect of being pushed out to the sides.

If you are talking about ableton live's utility, then what you are doing when you turn it up to 200% is isolating the wide part of a sound from the mono one and only hearing the wide. The wide part is usually higher frequency, so it might seem that you are adding a filter. Try using a delay with the settings in pic related and turn it on and off, that might give you a better idea.

>> No.52849205

>>52849153
the knob is on which type of gear? generally a stereo imager/enhancer/widener uses an MS matrix to decode the "mid" signal from the "side" signal. when you jack it up it increases the "side" signal (meaning things panned L and R ger louder proportionally to how far panned they are) while the M channel (which consists of things that are in both L and R, proportional in loudness to how much in the middle they are panned) gets attenuated.

when you pull the knob back and "narrow" the mix the side elements are attenuated and the mid channel is boosted. this is fundamentally different than panning. if it sounds like it's making your shit brighter it means you have brighter things panned L and R, or you're listening in mono and have serious phase issues.

>> No.52849213

>>52849191
Well there's really no need for it honestly. Just torrent vsts. I just like it personally.

>> No.52849274

holy shit I just started using Cubase's plugins in FL and they're fucking amazing why did nobody tell me this before

>> No.52849322

>>52849161
It's all worth it, man. When you hear that great sound and all the new possibilities it brings to tracks, the price stops being the focus.

New tools is one of the best feels there is.

>> No.52849326

>>52848553


i thought the following book would be cheesy but it was full of great advice and ideas on this subject. i recommend it:

http://www.cosm.co.nz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=325

>> No.52849373

>>52848605
"It’s not the outcome of your labor, but the enjoyment of the process that matters most."

you have to make it enjoyable to you somehow, make it fun. it's possible, and even then it won't always be fun, but it should be for the most part. otherwise, find something else that you might enjoy more. there's a whole world of things.

>> No.52849384

>>52848983
I really hope you love it and produce your best tracks with it, fam. Cheers.

>> No.52849429
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52849429

>>52849322
I just don't like being sucked into gearfaggotry. but just wait! tomorrow my last ribbon comes in (one of the pair was a lemon so i'm exchanging) and my new VTB-1 preamp arrives with it. i already have one so i'll have a stack of two ^_^

>> No.52849496

>>52849153
The anon above gave you a good answer but to add to that; when I hear the difference in stereo width, you know how panning controls left and right? Well it sounds like stereo width constols front and rear. It seems to move the sound from directly infront of you or in your face (mono), to the sides to maybe a bit behind your ears when it's maxed out.

>> No.52849530

>>52849496
this usually happens when there's reverb on the track, because the reverb tends to be highly decorrelated between L and R, so it's the element that gets boosted the most through an M/S processor. so if you want to make your whole mix a little "wetter" you can crank the stereo imager a little, or if it's too wet you can pull it back just a little, as the first thing to go will be the reverb on the edges. unless you have a bunch of things panned 100% L or R but that would be reDarted

>> No.52849827

How do I make this sound?

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1aab9tOsRjm

I've been trying for weeks and I can't even find a name for what kind of synth it is, what sound it is, nothing. It was in a sample pack I downloaded and I love it.

Please help me /prod/

>> No.52849891

>>52849827
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1aab9tOsRjm
holy fuck I need to know this too
it sounds so simple but I can't work it out either
I tried replicating it on the Roland Juno but it didn't work

>> No.52849919

>>52849827f
it's sounds like a complex malange of oscillators, some that trigger kbd mode and some that don't, as well as an integrated LPF

staht from scratch and not from a preset

>> No.52849956

>>52849919
got an idea of what waves would work best?

>> No.52849992

>>52849956
It sounds like a square wave.

>> No.52849997

Um, /prod/. Do I put the EQ before or after the compressor in the effect chain of a track?

>> No.52850084

>>52849997
It depends, do you want to EQ the compressed sound or compress the EQ'd sound?
Compressors add a tiny amount of tone variation anyway so I usually compress first but sometimes I'll find myself EQing the input signal and then EQing the output from the compressor.
It all depends on the situation

>> No.52850114

>>52849997
in short, do corrective EQ pre compressor (to remove rumble or resonance, for example) and aesthetic creative EQ post compressor. but there will always be exceptions

>> No.52850121

>>52849496
>>52849205
>>52849201

I see, thanks for taking your time to explain.

I still don't 'feel' it, though.
For example, in this loop I just made:
https://clyp.it/0bfdvlml
can you pinpoint where I turn stereo width to 100%?
I really don't hear a difference.

>> No.52850129
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52850129

>>52849919
>malange
wtf does this word mean?

>> No.52850151

>>52850129

He probably meant melange - French for a mix/combination.

>> No.52850175

I found one of the first songs I made in sunvox.
https://clyp.it/0dgvssdp
I still love it.

>> No.52850189

>>52850084
>>52850114

Aaaah, cool! I understand, I'm just trying to decide whether or not to EQ the high end off a kick. I mean, with it I only get the bassbass that is punchy and feels like it fades in every time it hits, and without it has the even more punchy high frequencies with it that make it sound like it's being accompanied by a tom or something. I like the latter a lot more but I don't know if it would constitute 'sloppy production' technique. Thoughts?

>> No.52850246

>>52850189
Not sure I really understand what you're talking about but kick drums generally need a mix of low and high end. High end slap gives it definition in the mix, unless you want a soft kick

>> No.52850249

>>52849429
mic pres are my second favorite gain stages, they're handy for lots of things that aren't mics.

>> No.52850255

>>52850129
this
>>52850151
aporagees prease for english

>>52850121
it sounds like all your low frequency stuff (drums, bass pad, whatever) are exactly in the middle and the rest is nearly hard panned L and R. that's not going to let the stereo imager do much obvious stuff. throw a reverb on there and test again. also yes it sounds like the stuff panned L and R is being bossted 3dB or so, which is what it does.

but I also don't know what stereo width thing you're using and probably aren't familiar with that exact one either

>> No.52850266

>>52837302
>4 AA batteries
>3 AAA batteries
what a ripoff

>> No.52850298

>>52850121
lmao. The reverb makes it hard to tell and I haven't been doing this for long but I think it starts wide, then it goes wide again at 0:10, then again at like 15 and 19 seconds. I'm really just listening to the synths stabs as it sounds like that's the only thing that's moving. Am I right anon, did i pass the test?

What >>52850255 said (chek'd em)

>> No.52850349

>>52850298
Yes, anon, you are absolutely correct.
I guess there is a hearable difference and I'm just too dumb to hear it.

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>>52850249
I agree, I lvoe them! And they're incredibly impo'tant too

>lots of things that aren't mics
like what anon? i tend to just run mics, guitars, and lines through them, but since all mine have a tube stage it can be fun to use them as a harmonic generator. i have a cheep ART tube pre which can handle the DC coming right off my hammond's speaker terminals and buffer it down to nice audio signal to send to amps/line ins. shit's lovely

>> No.52850379

>>52850349
How are you producing/mixing? What headphones and what speakers?

>> No.52850447

>>52850365
Agree 100% on the hammond with the ART tube pre. You can keep it clean, or crank it into egg frying territory.

>things that aren't mics
anything from synths, to effects returns, or using them as a send in a DAW for plugins and what have you. You could try stacking your pres, you do have 3 of them.

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>>52850349
>yes anon you are absolutely correct
YES YEEEESSS
FUCK THE HATERS THAT SAID I COULDN'T DO IT

>> No.52850463

>>52850379
Eh, it's not really a producer setup, just a pair of good speakers and a subwoofer. I have some old sennheiser monitors laying around somewhere, but I'm too scared of going deaf.

>> No.52850487

>>52850447
>You could try stacking your pres, you do have 3 of them.
I may try this at some point. Generally I'm not a fan of the distortion they make, especially with a decent FX pedal and Marshall mini head and various plugins and such (dat Reason Sreacm 4 distortion unit) buuut I might mess with them.

When the new VTB-1 arrives I'll have to swap tubes. I bought the other one a few years ago and put a higher quality JJ tube in it... so I'll have to crack into the new one and put a JJ tube so they match. Gon' void the warranty right out of the box D:

>> No.52850537

>>52850463
Would you say you have them pretty balanced and that you're in the "sweet spot" or do your mixes tend to sound homogenous and thumpy?

>>52850487
>void the warranty
that's BS, you should be voiding the warranty if you keep stock tubes in modern gear

>> No.52850560

>>52850537
>should be voiding the warranty if you keep stock tubes in modern gear
I know but whatchagon' do. If I remember correctly there weren't any seals or security tape in the last one so if I'm careful it won't appear as though I opened it up. But that may have changed, we'll see

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52850591

Hey Guys. For the last few years I've been making music totally on my mac with only mouse and keyboard. No real keyboard controller, no pads, no mixer, no audio interface. Its fucking frustrating and due to this I hardly use any VSTi's just effects.

Its about time I spent a bit of money and bought some kind of hardware to address this issue, but its been a long time since I've had any hardware. heres a few questions.

Audio interface: USB or Firewire? is 2inputs 2outputs enough if I'm connecting to a mixer?

Mixer I'm thinking of maybe a 12 channel mixer. Now i see some of these mixers are USB, I don't use mics so should I get a usb mixer and leave out the Audio interface?

Controller: I'm more inclined towards pads as I need something to input notes, drums etc but I can't play a keyboard so I'm thinking of something like the Akai MPD32....OR should I get some kind of keyboard or Drum machine that will have its own sounds onboard but also double as a controller.

Or should I get something like the Akai MPC Renaissance as it has onboard audio interface.

Fuck help me out here I'm confused as fuck?

>> No.52850616

>>52850463

The longer you do it the more your ears develop; but first make sure you have good neutral sound monitors (headphones and speakers) cus without that even the best set of ears could be useless.

Relax, bro. Don't be afraid of going deaf; it only starts to set in after an hour and a half of being exposed to 100 dB if I'm not mistaken. Check this out: http://www.gcaudio.com/resources/howtos/loudness.html

If you don't listen to music at the same volume a subway train makes, then you're good. Definitely give those sennheisers a try.

>> No.52850620

>>52850560
I doubt it, it's not Japanese

>> No.52850639

>>52850591
That pic is just on the borderline of being nsfw...

>> No.52850666

>>52850639

I dunno looks pretty SFW to me

>> No.52850716 [DELETED] 

pffhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>> No.52850719

>>52850666
It looks pretty harmony korine to me.

>> No.52850737

>>52850716
U wot m9

>> No.52850756
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>>52850737
my only reaction to this

>> No.52850784

>>52850756
Who is this semen demon?

>> No.52850804
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>>52850591

If it helps I'm using logic as my main DAW. I have a Hardware Sampler with 8 outputs (EMU ESI-32) and plan on getting a couple of synths.

I'm thinking maybe substitute the mixer for a Audio interface with more inputs and some kind of controller or synth that has sliders and pots for using with the mixer in Logic?

Also maybe a proper MPC like 2000xl instead of the renaissance?

>> No.52850817

>>52837902

I know that feel.

>> No.52850929

>>52850639
>>52850666
>>52850716
>>52850719
>>52850737
>>52850756
>>52850784

all me ;p

>> No.52850968
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>>52850784
The new Casio XW-PD1

to match the Casio XW-P1
and XW-G1

notice the iPad landing zone

>> No.52850976

I'm looking for a really mellow paino vst. I've tried several Kontakt libaries + Abletons default libraries.

I'm looking for something that sounds really soft, warm, analog.

Something like Nils Frahms stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScUP6MKmXpg

>> No.52851031

>>52850976
a baby grand and some steady fingers will do the trick. but, barring that as a plausibility, might i suggest adjusting the attack and filter of the piano you already have?

i know in reason it's super quick to take the plunky piano samples and just mellow them right out with some velocity-controlled filtering and attack. it's lovely stuff.

>> No.52851049

>>52850976
Well it sounds like there's classical guitar playing along. I'm fortunate enough to find pianos most places I go, all you need is a mic and interface really.

>> No.52851106

>>52850976
so like, did the deer get squashed inside the giant cube? top fucking kek

>> No.52851112
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>> No.52851150

>>52851112
what a h'weird looking track

>> No.52851210
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>>52850976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_1uGnqFGME

Holy shit, this dude is great.

>> No.52851245

>>52851210
he sleeps on an air matress :[

>> No.52851247

>>52851150
It's this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8oal_1_YUk
I'm just going trough my library and playing different songs trying to learn how a spectrogram works.

>> No.52851273

>>52851210
that radio host interviewer guy keeps popping up in my life and i don't even know who he is and it's weird

http://youtu.be/XnreN5LsjvQ

>> No.52851303

>>52851247
>trying to learn how a spectrogram works.
are you that anon who said that to me last week or someting? up and down is pitch, left and right is time. saturation/intensity is amplitude. think of it as a hot surface.

>> No.52851327

>>52851245
he's wasting lots of space too. I could cram way more cool music shit in there.

>>52851273
it just means you know where to find good music, happens to me too, it's weird

>> No.52851341

>>52851210
this performance is great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttMECZuu5Fk

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52851343

>>52851247
oh also this track is kinda neato. sound sjust how it looks.

i made a similar track some time ago looky here

>> No.52851372
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52851372

Just wrote a page on /prod/wiki - hope you will find it useful. I will expand it later and all contributions are more than welcome.
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com/wiki/Hardware_On_A_Budget

>> No.52851378

>>52851343
they almost look like midi notes. Like a piano roll on fire.

>> No.52851379

>>52851303
no, but thanks

>>52851343
that looks like some ayylien kinda shit son

>> No.52851390

>>52850976
just fyi he often uses an electric grand so maybe look for a VST that emulates that

>> No.52851423

>>52851378
a spectrogram basically IS a piano roll!

>>52851379
it's a bit alyen, yes

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1vKpjBx81ge

>> No.52851508

>>52851372
wouldn't hardware on a budget be... software?

>> No.52851529

>>52851508
you know what he means >:|

>> No.52851602

>>52851343
what spectrogram is that? I feel like trying it if it works with Renoise.

>> No.52851612

can someone link me to some good absynth videos? every tutorial i find is for making pads

>> No.52851642

>>52851508
Probably, but having actual synths in your rig is pretty neat.
While using hardware in general is more tedious, but feels rewarding and with some work you can make it sound really good. Sadly, it depends more on the interface you are using than your actual production skills. I'm going to make on a page on interfaces soon, I think.

>> No.52851646

>>52851612
what exactly are you having issue with?

>> No.52851708

>>52851646
anythig besides pads. i wanna try and make industrial type synths. mostly bass and leads

>> No.52851830

https://clyp.it/ew3ne5eo

I'm doing it for a few months now.
I like to remix videogame songs

>> No.52851833

>>52851372
Holy shit, please change the microkorg one, it's so fanboy it hurts

>> No.52851863

>>52851708
totally muck around with the morph wave osc thing. you can get some nice big and controlled aggressive sounds that way

>> No.52851910

>>52851833
I'm sorry. On a second glance, I really got carried away with it.
I'm just a sucker for that synth.

>> No.52851939

>>52851830
love it. what game is the song from? Sounds like remixed keygen music.

>> No.52851987

>>52851602
it's the link I posted with it. it's an original.

>> No.52852036

>>52851602
woops i meant to provide link to link
>>52851423

>> No.52852042

>>52851863
that's what i try to do. i spend alot of the time in the envelope section cause i noticed with alot of the presets that without the crazy shit they have goin on i the envelope it's just a buzzing noise. i try to replicate the shit in the presets but it never comes close to sounding good

>> No.52852043

i love you /prod/
let's keep the quality of these threads going, it's the only good thing about /mu/ anymore

>> No.52852059

>>52851833
Done. You're okay with it now?

>> No.52852140

>>52852059
It's better, but they're cheaper than $300 used.

>> No.52852210

>>52852140
I should have a put a disclaimer there, that I based those estimates on my country's average prices and converted them to USD for convenience.
Well, feel free to edit it as much as you like. I can make mistakes, you know.

>> No.52852215

>>52852036
wow that sounded beautiful. Some war of the worlds f# a# infinity type shit. use clyp.it next time though, vocaroo loses alot of quality.

>> No.52852219

>>52851939
Top Gear for the Snes
Track 01

>> No.52852370
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52852370

Absolute newb here

So I came up with a simple loopable progression ( http://vocaroo.com/i/s0hBtEBMZ4oJ ), how do I turn this shit into a properly structured song? Are there some recommended guides / books on composing shit? I don't know what I'm doing

>> No.52852463

>>52852370
The first complex skill you should master is using clyp.it instead of vocaroo. Vocaroo makes everything sound like shit.

>> No.52852497

>>52852463
Oh

Well the progression is not important, it's shit anyway

The
>books and guides about composing
is the relevant part

>> No.52852509

poorfag here
has serum for osx been cracked

>> No.52852550

>>52852497
D-don't get me wrong. I really liked the progression, anon. It has potential. It's just that vocaroo's low quality didn't let me appreciate it as well as clyp.it would have.

>> No.52852652

>>52852509
>poorfag
>wants to prod
>on a mac

Don't make me laugh, kiddo. Get a fucking PC and stop foolin'.

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>>52852550
>>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0hBtEBMZ4oJ

>https://clyp.it/xfat2bu3
Holy fuck

I knew vocaroo was bad but I didn't know it was THIS bad

thanks anon

>> No.52852728

Hey, /prod/. Been almost a month doing this whole production thing, I've learned a lot here. I feel like I've progressed a bit too. Some of you might recognize this; I posted it before, worked a bit on it since then. It's only like 50% finished but this time I worked on what I think is mixing it well.
https://clyp.it/g4pm4s5r

I'll take any kind of thoughts. How's the mix? Are there frequencies clashing? Is it utter shit? I will appreciate it very much.

>link for the old version is https://clyp.it/kxv5t0tc

>> No.52852758

>>52851987
no man, what software is the spectogram

>> No.52852777

>>52852728
The mixing is nice but the composition is really basic and boring. It just lacks tone and complexity.
What synths are you using? Have you tried making presets yourself?

>> No.52852794

>>52852728
is the kick meant to sound that distorted?
the only things wrong with it are lame melodies and lame sound selection, but they both come with experience and can't be picked up overnight
big improvement though, keep at it

>> No.52852808

>>52852652
but i spent all my money on this mac:(

>> No.52852868

>>52852728
Could use some high end air. If I were mastering this I'd probably add a high shelf at around 17k at like 1.5 dB

The hi-hat's transients are a little grating. I'd either take out some of the high-mids or just throw on a compressor with a fast attack to calm down that attack. Also I might bring it down in the mix like 1 or 2 dB.

I like the things on the left and right at around :40, but they have kind of a grating sound to them that kind of gets to my ears in a bad way. I'd try to adjust the timbre of those so that they're a bit softer and less grating sounding.

>> No.52852952

>>52852868
Woah buddy, 17kHz aint high-end. That's way beyond high-end, 17kHz is a mosquito-tone for most.
Air is found from 5-11kHz depending on the instrument.

>> No.52852970

>>52849827
Bump for this

>> No.52852978
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52852978

>>52852777
Just using basic things that come with Renoise's demo, MonoSynth and Rave Bass. Now that you mention it I didn't edit the preset settings of either synth nor did it even cross my mind! But I did put effects on the tracks like a delay, distortion, chorus, flanger, compress & EQ of course, shit like that.

>>52852794
Yeah I put distortion on the kick track because I think it sounded boring or too flat without it. Is it too strong that it makes it sound bad?

>>52852868
>high end air, high shelf
I-I'm not sure what those are, anon. Can you explain?
I totally understand the hats being grating. That's actually a part I was specifically looking for input on because I thought they were a tad too loud. Thanks for the input on the distortion at 0:40. I'm sure I know how to fix it. Thanks.

This feedback is GOLD, I really appreciate it a lot! As for the lame melodies, basic & boring; I kinda know, it sounds very generic even to me. But I kind of decided to start with something basic generic instead of starting experimental and coming off as shit. Thanks again, still taking more feedback.

>> No.52853014

>>52852978
It isn't too strong if it's what you're going for. Gives a techno type vibe.
Never use an effect that strong/full on to 'fix' a sample though, just find a better sample.

>> No.52853031

>>52852808
You fucked up m8.
Also nice 808 post number.

>> No.52853187

Has anyone noticed an improvement in their work, workflow and overall efficiency by producing out of their rooms/house?

I'm tempted to rent a practise room like where bands and other musicians jam and set up a PC there, get some good speakers and a little more hardware so that I can go there and not be distracted by the internet and vidya and just focus on the music in a different environment, but obviously this is an expensive move.

I've only been producing just under 2 years so maybe it's a little early to make that move yet. I don't have any sort of career in music

>> No.52853274

>>52852210
yo im that dude that made that pastebin that was more for new people / daws.

\\\

how should i add it to the Wikia ?

>> No.52853288

>>52853187
Couldn't hurt
where i am you can rent a rehearsal space (with speakers) overnight for about 80

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More cool spectrograms

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52853415

>>52853187
>tfw there will never be a virtual version of this
>a room "where bands and other musicians jam and set up a PC there, get some good speakers and a little more hardware" with maybe mics, cams, shit like that where they can collab and stuff or just chill

local man finds out that there really is no reason to continue living in this world so he builds a spaceship in his barn and says he will "transcend this earthly plane of existence". more news at 5.

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I think this one was meant to be seen, because the bass is nearly silent.

>> No.52853536

>>52853516
Woah

>> No.52853538

So I've been using reaper without a license for a few years now, I'm no master but it's what I'm best with. However, I just bought adobe creative cloud which comes with audition. My question is should I try to use audition now for recording instead? How easy would it be to convert? Can I transfer my vsts easily?

>> No.52853602

>>52853538
i dunno, do you WANT to use it?
i dont get why you're asking this thread
and what is transferring vsts? there's either vst support or no vst support

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52853662

>>52852952
pic related

>>52852978
>I-I'm not sure what those are, anon. Can you explain?
"air" is a loose term for very high frequencies. A "High Shelf" is a type of EQ. You should definitely learn more about EQ if you don't know what that is (Not tryin' to be a dick).

>> No.52853688

>>52853602

Well do people here think it's a better overall package than reaper? I'm asking if people think it's even worth giving a shot or if Ishould just stick with reaper

>> No.52853691

>>52853538
I used audition CS2 and it was awful. Don't know if they've got better.

>> No.52853725

>>52853538
Depends. Try it. out for a day or two and see if you're comfortable in it, reading the manual is the first thing you should do.

>>52853602
don't be a sourpuss m23

>> No.52853784

>>52853274
I don't know. I'm not the creator of the prod wikia, I'm just contributing.
Make a new category for that maybe?

>> No.52853795

>>52838354
go outside, put the gain up and just listen to the omnipresent background ambience, you normally never hear

>> No.52853897

>>52853784
oke np

also that d-10 sound dope seen a few videos of it and it's like 80 euro secondhand were i live.

is it possible to yust use the piano without any of the inbuild sounds "like a usb midi controller "

and also connect it to like synth modules ?

>> No.52853901

>>52852215
thanks bruv! and yeah I do always use cypit, i just happened to already have a voc'roo link upload handy from ages ago

>> No.52853933

>>52853662
>A "High Shelf" is a type of EQ
Or rather it's a type of parameter within an EQ, I should say.

>> No.52853935

Is getting a field recorder worth it if i'm not making OPN shit?
Do you really use that many recorded samples in your songs and not just as percussion hits?

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52853941

shit

>> No.52853956

>>52850976
i haven't listened to the link but this is what came to my mind:

http://boscomac.free.fr/?p=air_piano

you need reaktor for it, but it's still gonna be free and this one is reeeally mellow

>> No.52854037

>>52853935
what's OPN? also basically nobody records their own samples, they use, manipulate, or formulate ones without leaving the comfort of the computer chair. if you're into field recording and recording in general then get one. but don't get one if you don't plan to use it significantly.

i use mine for recording SFX, samples, field/nature recordings, as well as my soundscape liberry of "places I've been". and even i don't use it as much as i'd like to

>> No.52854053

>>52853935
if you are interested in exploring sounds in general, definitely. I know that's a pretty loose term, but you are gonna be able to have a totally different sound if you field record much. But to be honest, currently i'm mainly using it for percussion sounds in my own tracks

>> No.52854100

>>52853662
Thanks for the explanation. now I understand what you meant, a simple google search revealed what the EQ parameter 'high shelf' looked like. 'preciate it bruv. and you didn't come off as a dick at all lol

>> No.52854107

>>52854037
oneohtrix point never

oh and btw i don't think that he really uses that much own field recordings

>> No.52854113

>>52854037
Oneohtrix Point Never
His work is very sample-based

>>52854053
I am interested in sound/sonics but probably wouldn't get a field recorder just for that reason, I want it to be useful in my production too

>> No.52854120

>>52854053

If I wanted an 'obviously was recorded in room by lonely people' sound, is it good for recording guitars, bass, and vocals?

>> No.52854367

>>52854120
i'd say yes

a field recorder basically picks up audio the same way human ears do, so the sound of the whole room will be recorded

>> No.52854383

We're past bump limit, ladies.

New thread
>>52854370
>>52854370
>>52854370
>>52854370

>> No.52854396

>>52848983
Status report: someone sniped that sale before I could get a reply from the seller. This is the second time this happens to me just this week and I am genuinely upset.

>> No.52854442

>>52854396
Aw man you'll find another! Think of it as time to weigh up your decision and other options

>> No.52854447

>>52854396
That's terrible anon! I'm sorry to hear it. Your email isn't "praiseallahdownwithisraelandniggers@hatemail.com" or anything is it?

>> No.52855798

>>52853415

I'm seriously thinking of setting up a studio. Theres fuck all round by me, could get some nice gear in there and if its not busy spend the day making illbeatz

>> No.52855864

>>52853795
I do this a lot. Then on the drive home I plug my field recorder into the stereo in the van and thats my soundtrack for the journey home. Soon fucking cosy.

>> No.52856092

>>52849191
Its funny but I had the same problem. A few years ago a mate recommended reason to me. I couldn't get that fucking thing to run, even when he came round to help he couldn't get it to work either...I gave up and bought Logic instead.

>> No.52856157

>>52849274

This is why buying Logic or Cubase is a good Idea, they have some of the greatest stock plugins going. The Plugins in Logic are unbelievable for the fact that they are free with the DAW.

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