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Take acid and read John Cage

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don't understand ur question tho

>>52777308
Pick up a music history book or go to wikipedia and start googling the names/terms.

Preferably don't.

>>52777308
>art music
>not classical
>Anything that is popular is pop music.
Are you talking about polystylism? or classical 21st century music?

Start at Philip Glass and John Adams but they have a following. So...

>induring random pop/rock and rap albums called 'art music' because the poster thinks they are special

>>52777308
So you just want good music?

I don't know just listen to some Kate Bush or something.

Traditional folk
>thats farmers with ukeles or Britbongs with bells on their ankles
Western Art Music
>(thats Western classical)
Asian Art Music
>(thats Asian classical)
Blues/r&b/soul/funk
>(thats post-slavery repetitions)
Jazz
>(thats post-slavery improvised music)
Pop/rock
>(yes that includes metal and punk)
Electronica
>(yes that includes hip hop)
Avant-garde
>thats noise and random wankery for avant-teens)

Pick one.

>>52777308
read those guidelines, it was made by a guy to those situations
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/exdeath/recommendation_from_nothing__the_game_

>>52777355
>>52777448

I just always see these people who come into threads about albums /mu/ likes and saying art music is better and that it's made by people who actually know music theory or something. They never go into much detail, but they seem to imply that it's this whole separate genre of music, and I want to get into it.

>>52777359

What book(s)? What names/terms?

>>52778024
They never go into much detail because they're just bullshitting.

it's just /classical/ shitposters
it's just another word for classical (and perhaps other things depending on who uses it)

>>52778024
nah m8 thats just avant-teen wanking
mainly noise-y shit or hypnagogic pop like john maus or james ferraro

>>52777308
>art music
>not Western classical music

These people are not patricians. Avant-teens are not patrician.

>>52778656
>Thinking Western classical music is the only music that classifies as Art music

This is what classicalfags actualy believe.

>>52778971
I bet you think jazz is art music.

>>52778971
In the strictest sense, it absolutely is.

>>52779004
No, I think "classical music" is made in other areas of the world. Chinese and Japanese classical music falls under the description set by most musicologists.

But really, i think the term is very elitist. Why is stuff like Jazz not art music? it is based on written notation of music, and classical music also has improvisation, so what excludes it?

>>52778971
Yes, and?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_music

>>52779116
Jazz is popular music made for (live) entertainment and record sales.

It might be art, but its not Art Music.

>>52779118
That page not only mentions "art music traditions of several different cultures around the world", but also the social elitism associated with the term.

>>52779139
But wasn't western classical music made for entertainment, to be played to audiences? Didn't most composers have a patron, who supported them finacially?
Dvorak's Slavonic Dances were made to be sold to be played on the piano, the orchestral versions were released later. How is that not made for sales?

>>52779116
Folk music with a rudimentary notation system is not the same thing as art music.

>>52779173
>Didn't most composers have a patron, who supported them finacially?
Look up the definition of "popular" and you will find that this is irrelevant.

>>52779394
>rudimentary
It's the same system used in classical music, used the same way, written for the same instruments. Think of great compositioners like Monk and Ellington. What makes it rudimentary?

I still don't see how some music is made more for entertainment than other music. I think artists/works should be more individually judged as art/popular music instead of basing it on predefined genres.

>>52779575
I was referring to East Asian "classical music". Jazz has a better claim to the label.

"art music"

What a stupidly vague concept. It's almost as if it's getting passed around with the intention of trolling dumb faggots on a Mongolian planned parenthood pamphlet.

>>52779173
Most classical was indeed basically "shovelware" made either for dancing and similar occasions (if nobles were paying for it) or for religion purposes (if church was paying). Of course people who make a living off of peddling classical music ("surprisingly" mostly jews, especially these days) try to brainwash the masses from birth into thinking it was some high art.