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no. I think it's case of cutting it intentionally close to the line with the video to stir some sporadic "outrage" from some sources just the get it to be a talking point.

it's a better song than chandalier

>>52718525
I greatly dislike Sia's voice and shtick, so yes.

>>52718525
the media/public is perverted enough to see pedophilloic tendencies in the video (which any half assed analysis can tell that it's not) and yet claim they are the moral ones.

>>52718525

Implying it's not deliberate to fuel sales through faux outrage.

This song will be all over the media of every country now.

Cheap tactics.

No. Americans are perverts and swear that everything has some sort of sexual connotation hence why Freud is still being taken seriously in the 21st century.

>>52718525

What the fuck is the video even about though

There's nothing sexual in the video

>>52718915
according to generic gay man #298938829502

>>52718915
Supposed to be some "inner-conflict" or whatever. Representing the two sides of the artists inner interpretation of a literary criticism textbook they half read in 9th grade.

>>52718525
No.

You know how the mind is predisposed to seeing faces in trees and clouds? This is how people are nowadays with personal offense. They can't help but see pedophilia in something like this and would likely never come to terms with the fact that they voluntarily sexualized a little girl. Such is the world we live in, dominated by the loudest doublethinkers.

I love the video, btw. I'm not crazy about Sia's music, but her last two vids were great.

>>52718943
that headband

Who the fuck is Sia?

>>52718994
Wrong. Way to project your own intellectual shortcomings, though.

reminds me of shia in the sigur ros video

gives me feels everytime

I don't get it.
Shit like this gets smeared for being pedophilic, and yet nobody pays any attention to videos like these, which are much more pedophilic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8BOBEZL9sk

>>52718850
tru though

>>52718525
based shia

i dont like the song
definitely Shia's best acting though.

i can see why sia doesn't show her face off that much

>>52719666
>let's get some shoes

>>52719666
let's see your face

Do dads even play with their kids anymore.

>>52719755
Ok ;)

>>52719766
aren't they afraid of being pedo-shamed?

>>52719721
let's party

>>52719766
Yes. Even moreso since kids are at home more than ever. Contrary to popular belief, children are getting more and more parent interaction. I don't know where this misconception comes from.

>>52719766
mine did, but this current generation raised and taught 100% by women is pretty much fucked

>>52718943
the naruto kid is right tho


>>52719766
only if they wanna rape them :(

>>52719766
Mine did a little bit but not a lot of the time.
Probably on account of the stroke he had.

>>52719261
>gaspar noé
where the fuck have u been everyone flips a shit over noé's work

>>52719785
no results
you better not have just posted yourself lmao

>>52719785
9/10 and i like your curtains

>>52719785
lel you look like a twink

let me fill ur boipussy bro

>>52719828
>you better not have just posted yourself lmao

I'm not scared :)

>>52719845
Thanks babe.

>>52719847
Maybe later ;)

>>52718525
Americans are prudes, that's why

>>52718850
>why Freud is still being taken seriously in the 21st century.
Freud's theories are taught in the same way Aristotle's theories are currently being taught.
That being, his thoughts were important, but he was wrong about 95% of things.

>>52718525
>12
>pedo
Americans...
>>52719766
No because any male on child contact is automatically grooming pedo malepriv cis rape.
>>52719909
>Americans are prudes
Not at all, prudish behavior is good.

Being a sperg isn't.

>>52719957
>thinking 12 isn't pedo territory

Shia Le "Based" Beouf

>>52719987
American spotted.

>>52720028
Can't fux with The Beef.

>>52720044
Third-world Indian spotted.

>>52719785
>>Britboy whose studing for his A-levels detected

>>52720062
Nope.

>>52719828
Well, it's not bad to post yourself outside /b/, in fact if you get into /soc/ you'll see lots of people posting theirselves, and nothing happens.

>>52719957
are you the 21+-year-old that's dating a 15-year-old or some shit like that?

>>52720128
I'm 27 actually

>>52720187
are you the 27-year-old that's dating a 15-year-old or some shit like that?

>>52720187
are you the 27-year-old that's dating a 15-year-old or some shit like that?

>>52720213
>>52720269
>69
nice

>>52720187
are you the 27-year-old that's dating a 15-year-old or some shit like that?

>>52720269
what do you think you're doing

Its nice to see how another people act like stupid ass and never have that even that stupid asss damn so sad

>>52720327
what

>>52719766
I love my dad we used to play those Godzilla fighting games on the ps2

>>52720269
>what do you think you're doing

>>52720327

>>52720327
Que?

>>52720327

>>52720327
damn...

I interpreted it as a father having trouble letting go of his daughter. Didn't see the pedo interpretation though.

I really liked Shia's performance. He was very intense, especially in the beginning and when she leaves the cage for the first time.

>>52720327
DUDE WEED LMAO

>>52718525
FFS, we live in a world where people have to apologize for their art because stupid audiences impose their own sexual depravity and perversions on the media they consume.

Way to go America

>>52720625
People just need something to yell about to fill the time for a little bit and we're currently participating

>>52720656
We're not yelling about a music video, we're yelling about stupid critical people.

There's a difference.

Anon.

>>52718850
the brits do the same thing, if not worse.

>>52720781
The Aussies like censorship too

>>52720740
There are two sides to the debate over this video, and we represent one of them. Plus I'm being cheeky <3

>>52720781
Truth. I hear more Brit media talking about "peedo's" than American media.

>>52718850
I'm american, the only people that still take frued seriously are really old psychologists that are stuck on older methods

>>52720818
>There are two sides to the debate over this video, and we represent one of them. Plus I'm being cheeky <3
The two sides being:

This video is pedo
This video is not

All we're doing is calling the former group cunts

>>52718850
Dude the only time us free fatties talk about Freud is in entry-level pyschology classes and even then they don't teach his theories as the correct ones

>>52719987
>taking the bait

>>52718788
>>52719015
>>52719000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1x8DMfbYN4

Hello /mu/. This is a quick reminder that Sia's been killing it for over ten years, her videos have always been GOAT, and if you haven't heard any of her work other than "Chandelier," you got some work to do.

>>52720854
I thought it was >implied

I guess technically you're right.

idk it got me hot and bothered
might fap to it later

>>52719666

>>52720841
>>52720880
I'm American as well and we're a country that still treats suicide like martyrdom. As an entire planet though, we're a bit lacking in out understanding of psychology.

Either way, there's not even a smidgen of sexuality in that video.

>>52719004
it's a forehead protector! b-baka!

So what does this video even mean?

>>52721304
you should try reading the thread

>>52718943

>>52719942
what is aristotle wrong about? im not starting a debate I really don't know and am not big into philosophy, but also don't understand how it could be correct or incorrect. Yes, this is a challenge on you to explain yourself.

>>52721285
Yeah people have strange attitudes about suicide

>>52719666
nice photoshop

>>52719942
The only major contribution of Freud was psychoanalysis, and it was a fucking doozy. All of the other shit (and coke habit) is what makes people leery of hyping him up too much.

>>52719794
idiots like you still exist?

>>52721393

>>52721330
Thanks man, I had a friend tell me it was her innocence leaving. Seemed plausible enough.

>>52721414
>coke habit
The man loved the coco so much he prescribed it to his friends

Labeef is an artiste

>>52720573
According to Sia they're playing the same person. But I like the father/daughter struggle angle more.

>>52721582
Do you think Labeef banged her?

>>52721582
>Labeef is an artiste
This is an unpopular opinion that I agree with.

>>52718850

No bro, it's dat Puritan heritage. Violence is fine, but sex scares the hell out of us. It causes this massive circlejerk of outrage at sex, while furthering the sexual repression that runs rampant.

>>52721612
>unpopular opinion

The Reddit hivemind has changed its mind about The Beef. It's not cool to hate on him anymore.

>>52721354
well for one, he thought there were five elements.
Quick wiki read will get you this:
He "saw women as subject to men, but as higher than slaves."
He wrote that only fair-skinned women, not darker-skinned women, had a sexual discharge and climaxed.
He wrote on a hierarchy of order among animals.

He's important cuz he wrote about a looooott, like a ridiculous amount, and established like 90% of the sciences in the process.

>>52721606
duh

>>52721830
those sound like ancient curmudgeon beliefs that shouldn't tarnish his name as a philosopher. its like holding a grudge against a celebrity for blurting the word nigger when hes drunk. Its got nothing to do with his work as a whole.

Everyones so touchy and ridiculous/entitled to their feelings.

>>52721906
It's easy to discredit Freud because he was applying his incorrect ideas about psychology within his chosen field. But Aristotle had one job: philosophizing. Philosophy entailed literally everything, from what we now call science to what we now call sociology. So he was wrong in some aspects of his "field of philosophy" and correct in others. I guess I get where this guy's coming from, but it's splitting hairs.

>>52721906
Slow down. He just said Aristotle was important, but he had some glaring factual inaccuracies in his work.

>>52722013
dont tell me to slow my roll the guy was likening one person to another in different fields and his comparison is that they are both "important", but they were wrong by OUR standards 95% of the time.

I want to get to the bottom of this idea that people looking into a screen half their life in the 21st century think they can be more correct about life than some philosopher who walked around naked in the mountains with goats and lived piously. Or was that socrates? I have no clue, im just sick of people in general. Im gonna go lay down now.

>>52722176
Clearly, you're dealing with something else here. Enjoy your lie down session.

>>52719785
are you jewish

>>52718525
>filename
10/10

>>52719785
do you want to be my friend

>you will never freebase in R-patts mansion with your band

Americans are so open minded .....

>>52720327
At last ayy truly c

I only know Shia from Transformers, so I was quite surprised how well he played his part in this.

>>52725483
he's an indie film star now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i9vEBWnu9I

Weird Shit 2012 comin' through

>>52725483
I remember him from the disney channel show even stevens with jessica beil

>>52719785
qt3.14/10 :3

I just watched this video. Anyone who watches that and immediately thinks "paedophilia" is clearly the one with the warped mind. There is literally nothing wrong with it.

>>52719942
Not really, in my highschool psychology class a few years ago the teacher basically taught it as being a different look at psychology that's equally viable. I don't really agree with it, but if people want to agree with freud I don't really care enough to argue with them all about it.

>tfw I thought it was a good music video and Shia was cewl


but seriously that little girl in the skin suit is just asking for trouble.

Those who find ugly meanings in beautiful things are corrupt without being charming. This is a fault.

Those who find beautiful meanings in beautiful things are the cultivated. For these there is hope.

>>52727615
what colour should she wear?

>>52719666
>666
Shes the devil.

>>52719261
oh lawdy
gaspar noe is the uncle terry of film

>>52718525
Objectively it's not sexual
there's clearly an arc both characters are going through which is the main focus
the only think making it sexual is the viewer (in this case mostly amerilards) so there's that

>>52727763
I'm american and I even know this, it's just sjw's clutching at the smallest things to make an issue, then have the audacity to act like they caused some great social change..disgusting.

>>52719785
>>52719755
REEEKT

>>52727763
*thing

>>52727779
I still don't know how the SJW-issue is going to be solved. They clearly have the majority of the uniformed population on their side.

>>52719785
solid 5/10

>apologizes for doing pedo related video xDD
>Dont delete the video
Uhh is just an attention whore. And you are the sheeps who fallin in this game

>>52727735
I really, really, really like this image.

>>52719785
damn. i'm too thirsty.

>mfw i was running at the gym and saw that chandelier video clip on the screens.
Every single person was looking around the gym at each other with a disgusted look on their face.

I suppose women just don't have an appreciation for the fact that just because something might be artistically justified, that doesn't mean perverted men aren't going to masturbate to a little girl in a skin colored suit doing the splits to a shitty pop song.

And that's just a little bit disrespectful to a child who doesn't know about that, exploiting her ignorance for profit.

>>52728024
Again the videos aren't inherently sexual.
I can jack off to the picture you just posted right now thus sexualizing it but that doesn't mean the pic is sexual by itself. It's always the viewer.
I highly doubt perverted men masturbating to the video was the intention of Sia and I also doubt the child is being exploited here.

>>52719828
Why? Nothing will happen you fucking idiot.

>>52728076
The intention was to subvert an expectation.

That video is the equivalent of some retard getting a swastika tattoo'd across his face and then getting mad when you tell him he's retarded for thinking people will associate him with the nazi's rather than the ancient Buddhist peace symbol.

>>52719261
god damn, this is lewd as fuck. But I guess that's the point of the video.

>>52718915
just some normal guy want to have le sex with some 11 years old.

>>52720937
Pretty boring.

>>52720781
Yep
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30698640

That's basically a smear article against a part of Japanese culture

>>52721635
lmao are you kidding me, americans are some of the biggest sluts in the world. sex means nothing anymore and people walk around almost naked

>>52728172
On the almighty BBC, I might add

>>52728076
>skin colour clothes
>they are alone
>the man REALLY want to be with her
>the girl just play around with the feeling of the man
nothing sexual

>>52728140
No man sorry this analogy doesn't work at all.
It would work if Sia told us that it's nothing while the girl is pole dancing and touching herself throughout the video. This would be bullshit but nothing she does implies anything sexual.

>>52728194
>standard dancing attire
>father can't be alone with his own daughter without being called a pedo
>not in a sexual way
>not in a sexual way

you are sick

>>52728194
>i'm just going to take this video at face value without looking into the possible meaning of it

>>52728195
Maybe you're just stupid.

God I hate being apart of western culture

>>52728237
Elaborate.

>>52727142
Since when was Jessica Biel in Even Stevens?

>>52728203
>>52728211
>father can't be alone with his own daughter without being called a pedo

IS NOT HER FATHER
Is just some partner that IS a pedo. The cage is just a moment that they have, can be a date/chatroom(?.
The dancing is the idea of just talking in very sexual way or le sex
When she doesnt want to "dance" anymore she goes out of the birdcage. That doesnt fits on the idea of child / father. A child doesnt run away of the father.

>>52728265
you are quite possibly retarded. not internet retarded, real life please seek help retarded

>>52720028
shy le buff: the scripted pedo

i hate generalizations but why does this shit happen in america so much? why are your "care about shit that doesn't matter" genes so dominant?

>>52720937
happy hands club

>>52728265
You have to be kidding me.
You are beyond retarded.

>>52720937
sia so fucking generic and boring, no wonder she's a famous pop star

>>52728172
Except lolicon is sexual. They aren't reading into it, it's a sexual fetish around images of children. Don't start talking some sjw with some bullshit 'muh culture' excuse.

>>52728296
>>52728281
>Ad hominem
Good argument, guys!

>>52728364
Well your "suggestion" is not worth taking seriously. Hence us saying you're retarded.

>>52728364
more like ad retardem

it's over guys
sjws will conquer the world and it's gonna be another dark age

>>52728284
We're doing relatively fine as a country right now, so when Americans get really, really bored we like to invent problems. It's a reason why Pinkerton is considered a good album.

>>52720937
I heard her in 2006 and I thought she was boring then.

>>52721906
>Its got nothing to do with his work as a whole.
that IS his work.
and it's mostly wrong by today's standards.
but it's taught because it's important to understand his work and its influence on the history of western science and philosophy.
same with freud.
his work is mostly wrong by today's standards but it's important as a part of history.
you have shit reading comprehension m8
youre so mad that everyone is touchy and reactionary but youre so busy looking for things to get annoyed about that you forgot how to read

>>52728759
>RIP Weezer

>>52727836
>I still don't know how the SJW-issue is going to be solved. They clearly have the majority of the uniformed population on their side.
They don't. SJWs exist, but the idea that they're anything more than a vocal minority is fiction.

>>52729124
it's fucked when the mainstream media is almost entirely made up of that minority though, i.e. Sweden

>>52718525
The video is fucking great though. Based Shia

>>52729155
It's always been like that though. Thank God for the internet.

>>52729274
Yeah honestly he seems like a really insufferable person but he's not a bad actor and he always kills it in music videos.

>>52718943
>generic gay man #298938829502
holy kek

>>52729423
>insufferable person
Elaborate.

>>52721260
Is that genesis p. Orrige?

>>52728759
>We're doing relatively fine as a country right now
Par the capitalist/consumerist propaganda, potential terrorist attacks, your government spying on you, Christian extremists and how you're all some how extremely racist even though the foundations of your country are it's ability to be a melting pot.

>actually trying to interpret interpretive dance
please commit suicide if you've done this

Shia is hot as fuck is that video

>>52720327
No signs of intelligent life here

>>52719794
Fuck are you talking about

>>52721354
He thought the uterus was an animal that wandered around a woman's body

He thought the sun revolved around the Earth

He thought women contributed all the "material being" of a baby and men contributed the soul

>>52731560
Kek

>>52732307
>We Know Memes

>>52728908
>2006 was 14 years ago

>>52718525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM7nlIsBLoc
>no one says anything

I just get really sad the some people are so retarded that blow things up in an unproportional in such a way that an artist has to apologise for a music video. There are so many things that are more important to discuss.

>>52731560
>Par the capitalist/consumerist propaganda, potential terrorist attacks, your government spying on you, Christian extremists and how you're all some how extremely racist even though the foundations of your country are it's ability to be a melting pot.


The average American doesn't really consider those problems.

>>52721354
just about everything he said
the church liked him though so much of it was canon trough the dark ages

>>52733216
>tfw heart skipped a beat for a second
ya focker

>>52731560
>le outside looking in meme
I said relatively and the only ones you've mention that are actual issues we're dealing with are the institutional racism and NSA. I'm sure you live in a greener grass wonderland though so I can't say much.

>>52728991
no you liberal cunt his outlook on women and race has very little to do with actual philosophy or anything he taught, again confusing his life with his work.

>>52734134

>>52732419
I seriously doubt these are meant to be taken literally.

>>52728265
>a child doesn't run from her father

This has been Madonna's point since inception, you don't know shit about humans OR art

>>52729124
And yet this minority actually influences public policy.

When will you people learn that ignoring something doesn't make it go away?

>>52732419
>He thought women contributed all the "material being" of a baby and men contributed the soul

He was right, in a way. Single mothers raise criminals. For example, most school shooters are raised by single mothers.

>>52720327

>>52735099
>And yet this minority actually influences public policy.

Like what?

>>52735285
For example, the affirmative consent law that just went into effect in California.

>>52719785
this faggot was actually vain enough to stop everything he was doing, pose for a pic, take pic, upload it, and then post it to prove something? congrats you went full fag mode. i love you little pose :^)...

>>52735318
I had a feeling you were gonna bring that up, but that's California. Those niggas voted for 80s action movie star from another country as their governor. I don't even know what is going on there.

why do so many faggots like little girls?

>>52735548
It's still relevant considering they have the most seats in house.

Though in any case, socially is where SJC hold the most power. In the court of public opinion, where you don't need the law to ruin someone.

>>52735734
It's a non-issue, honestly. "SJWs" are against institutional racism so I have no problem with that.

>>52735572
who says fags like little girls? now you're just being faggist

>>52734885
I'm sure the Sun revolving around the Earth was meant to be taken completely literally. It was completely reasonable to think the Sun and stars revolved around the Earth at the time, and Ptolemy's celestial mechanics built from this assumption provided a remarkably empirically accurate theory when you consider it was more than 2 millennia ago (for comparison it was slightly more accurate than Copernican celestial mechanics invented only 5 centuries ago). In addition to that Aristotle believed that heavier objects fell faster than lighter ones (not true, by the way) and that objects fell because it was 'in their nature' to move towards the centre of the Earth.

>>52728991
Based Ari had some pretty case closing things to say or more importantly things which are still held by many modern philosophers. Especially concerning his work on metaphysics and ethics

>>52734885
They definitely were serious Aristotle was a fuckin serious dude and would hate the idea that he was misleading people

>>52737001
there's no point explaining the heliocentric concept to a retard if he can't figure it out himself

>>52734805
philosophy
[fi-los-uh-fee]

noun, plural philosophies.
1.
the rational investigation of the truths and principles of being, knowledge, or conduct.
2.
any of the three branches, namely natural philosophy, moral philosophy, and metaphysical philosophy, that are accepted as composing this study.
3.
a particular system of thought based on such study or investigation:
the philosophy of Spinoza.
4.
the critical study of the basic principles and concepts of a particular branch of knowledge, especially with a view to improving or reconstituting them:
the philosophy of science.
5.
a system of principles for guidance in practical affairs.
6.
an attitude of rationality, patience, composure, and calm in the presence of troubles or annoyances.

clearly you are a fucking retard if you fail to see that the following are clear examples of philosophy:

"He "saw women as subject to men, but as higher than slaves."
He wrote that only fair-skinned women, not darker-skinned women, had a sexual discharge and climaxed.
He wrote on a hierarchy of order among animals."

i'm not even that original dude bro - sort your shit out

>>52738499
they seem like minor points in a larger body of work, personal opinions that are almost hilarious to someone alive now. But still my point,

>its like holding a grudge against a celebrity for blurting the word nigger when hes drunk. Its got nothing to do with his work as a whole.

feel free to stay mad because the world was a different place thousands of years ago.

>>52738615
i'm not mad
i'm simply stating the fact that you're a moron and obviously don't understand what encompasses the definition of philosophy
nothing you said is relevant to this conversation, it makes no difference if its minor or not, the debate is in the fact you said that it was not philosophy

illiterate retard

Good Goys, don't spend any time with your daughters and siblings, let them grow up in front of the TV and among children, they don't need the guidance and comfort of an adult.

>>52739053
actually no I didn't say that and the fact you feel the need to try and insult me proves my actual point. Stay mad babby

>>52739139
>no you liberal cunt
you actually introduced ad hominem into the argument first, babby
>actual philosophy
yes, you did say that

>>52739245
are you the person i was responding to when I said liberal cunt? let me laugh even harder. all points stand, let me add another one, grow up.

>>52727122
i don't have any idea what that was, but god damn it was beautiful

>>52719785
saved, no homo

What a bunch of uncultured fucking philistines.

I don't even dance or know anyone who does but to say this video is pedophilia is fucking crazy.

>>52719261
oh shit I love noe!!!!!!!
ha hah aha hah ha hah ah ah aha hh aa h aha ha h h ahah ha hh a
good shit.

>>52740369
Then why is it so hot?

Think about that

THIS IS NOW AN ORDER OF ANIMALS THREAD:

kitties>peacocks>lizards>frogs>bison>cows>elephants>dolphins>pigs>white people

Leon skirted the boundary more than this video and both were intended as explorations of a meaningful relationship between two people irregardless of their gender or age.

The problem is most people can't see the artistry behind it. They just see a grown man going anywhere near a young girl and immediately their mind associates it with pedophilia connotations. I really enjoyed it.

>>52727763
Yeah.
Honestly, I find the video to be pretty cute.
Like a father/daughter cute.
It's also kind of sad.

>>52722546
lmao

>>52720937
Reminded me of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO6zy3gUICg

>>52741076

wow my bad I forgot irregardless isnt a word

>>52728265
>When she doesnt want to "dance" anymore she goes out of the birdcage. That doesnt fits on the idea of child / father. A child doesnt run away of the father.
You're fucking retarded.
When she leaves the cage and realizes he can't follow her there she goes back inside and tries to help him out.

>>52740860
Because you're a fucking pedophile?

>>52728265
0/10