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>Scaruffi gives a 2014 album an 8
What.The.Fucking.Shit.

>> No.52612741

>tfw he's right
I-I-It's always been my AOTY, I swear!

>> No.52612769

Seriously though.First 8 since 2010

>> No.52612787

what kind of shoes / boots r those? ive seen them before and ive always liked them

>> No.52612814

You can hear it here: http://open.spotify.com/album/5f1cLwa37KHnzkHHVEOhff

Like he said though, the intro is misleading. I definitely hear the Slint influence he talks about though.

>> No.52612821

this is the album btw
https://pyrrhonband.bandcamp.com/album/the-mother-of-virtues

>> No.52613321

>metal
>8/10

kek

>> No.52613347

What a loser

>> No.52613390

>>52613321
Yeah I can't understand wtf the guys even saying. Like he's trying to be super edgy

>> No.52613417

>>52612787
bump

>> No.52613456

what album?

>> No.52613495

>>52613456
Pyrrhon - The Mother of Virtues

>> No.52613519

>>52613495
What makes this album stand out from the thousands of other death metal super fast guitar growling man albums

>> No.52613551

>>52613519
Scarruff gave it an 8

>> No.52613552

>>52613519
How the fuck would i know ive never listened to it nor do i listen to death metal. Also fuck off you scaruffidrone

>> No.52613579

>>52613519
Noisier/more technical, I guess.

>> No.52613598

listening to scaruffi's opinions in 2015 is like listening to dadrock groups after the 80's

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>>52613552
I'm not a scaruffidrone but I'll listen to this and see if it's any good. I'm feeling comfy right now

>> No.52613642

>>52613519


i was a fan of all types of metal and hardcore and crap for years,a n this alum just sounds like everything else that ive heard. this scaruffi guy is dum

>> No.52613646

hey guys lets make this fun, youtube comments on this shit band:

>This is abstract metal. On the first listen I thought: ''What the fuck is going on, it's so chaotic!'', but when you really pay attention, there is so much musicality in this band and the new album. Really intriguing, one of the most interesting releases I've heard in a while.

>> No.52613730

Does anyone think that Scaruffi will ever give another 9 in his life? The last one went to an album from 1997.

>> No.52613763

>>52613730
yeah probably

>> No.52613836

>>52613730
He will give a 10 to jenny death

>> No.52613967

>Ys (2006), 8/10
>Have One On Me (2010), 8.5/10

>yfw

>> No.52613999

>>52613730
the powers that b

>> No.52614073

>>52613967
are you implying ys is better? if so you're delusional

>> No.52614118

>>52614073
no hes right ys is better if you disagree then your the won thats wrong

>> No.52614127

>>52613598

This. Why is /mu/ so dumb ?

>> No.52614145

>>52614073
are you fucking kidding me bro?

>> No.52614172

>>52614145
never been more serious in my life, the only people who think ys is better than have one on me are people with the attention span of a gold fish and have probably never even gotten half way through HOOM

>> No.52614227

>>52613598
So a totally reasonable thing to do then?
Good music transcends cultural relevance.

>> No.52614242

>>52612821
wow this is shit. scaruffi is such a tryhard faggot

>> No.52614268

>>52614172
i've got 89 runs of Ys and 62 of Have One on Me, come at me.

Ys is just way better. Way more cohesive of an album. Better lyrics. Better music. Have One on Me just feels like a long collection of songs. Joanna even put it herself that, compared to Ys, is her running around in her underwear. About Ys, she said "part of the intention [of writing Ys] was to send a message upwards. Another was to come to peace with certain things. Another was to find voice for this huge, gaping, wind-howling tunnel that I was looking into and just being like, FUUUCKKK. Not knowing any words for it.” The amount of her soul that she poured into Ys and how palpable that feeling is makes it a better album for me. Have One on Me has a bunch of great songs, but it doesn't feel like it's accomplishing as much.

>> No.52614284

>>52614227
Pink Floyd's latest was some good music huh?

>> No.52614297

>>52614268
>Another was to find voice for this huge, gaping, wind-howling tunnel that I was looking into and just being like, FUUUCKKK.
Oh great. I guess I'll hate her more than I already do.

>> No.52614324

>>52613967

how the fuck is she married to andy samberg??????

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It's not even that good.

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>>52614268
oh look guys! the redditro wrote an entire paragraph, give him 2000 upvotes and gold!! his opinion is rigth and presented with facts!!!

>> No.52614342

>>52614297
>i hate it when people have feelings

music without emotion is great, right

>> No.52614344

>>52614325
more like it's not even good at all

>> No.52614349

>>52612821
this is very generic

>> No.52614370

>>52614338
shit sorry man, forgot we don't discuss music here. just shitposting.

>> No.52614372

>>52614342
If she were a serious artist she wouldn't speak with such an immature tone.

>> No.52614390

>>52614268
fucking retard

>> No.52614401

>>52613519
Maybe if you didn't have such an evidently cynical and close minded approach to music and had actually bothered listening to some "super fast guitar growling man albums" you'd see why this album stands out.

>> No.52614415

>>52614338
>someone writes a detailed explantion
>HAHA BRO B2REDDIT NERD!! XDDD
kill yourself. you are cancer. kill yourself.

>> No.52614426

>>52614242
>>52614349
100% sure you and whoever is dissing the album only listened to the incredibly misleading into

>> No.52614462

>>52614426
I've also listened to a few mins of other tracks. Metal is garbage and that album is no different.

>> No.52614475

>>52614370
>>52614415
>>>/r/letstalkmusic

>> No.52614479

>>52614426
listened to the first 4 tracks actually

scaruffi's lost it, he has become the equivalent to dadrock artists that still make albums long after exiting their prime time. accept it and move on

>> No.52614504

>>52614426
No I listened to the tracks after it and still find it mediocre.

>> No.52614520

>>52614426
>scruffydrone damage control
laffin.jpg

>> No.52614572

>>52612821
>https://pyrrhonband.bandcamp.com/album/the-mother-of-virtues
>8/10
This is more deserving of a 6/10 on Scaruffi's scale. Scaruffi just went full P4K-tier.

>> No.52614598

>>52613642
Curious to know what this moron thinks sounds like this album.

>> No.52614626

i havent listened to the album but you're all pathetic and should end your lives

>> No.52614636

>>52614598
Aqam put your trip back on.

>> No.52614649

>>52614626
you first :)

>> No.52614680
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>Heavy metal has rarely been as dynamic, narrative, cinematic and cohesive as The Mother of Virtues (Relapse, 2014) is. Each piece is an intense, life-threatening experience. The relatively conventional grindcore of opener The Oracle Of Nassau is misleading. The nine-minute White Flag is a mini-fantasia drenched in gothic overtones, opening at a funereal doom-y pace, flavored with psychedelic spaced-out guitar tones, torn apart by a burst of distorted vocals, and, after the ritual "grinding", hypnotized in an oneiric pause before the final beastly growl. The eight-minute Eternity In A Breath is another venture into doom-metal with visceral energy; and halfway the music stops and the guitar emulates a piano with a few laconic notes; but then the booming procession-like rhythm restarts and the vocals become elongate desperate cries from hell. The balance of power between Dylan DiLella's guitar noise and Doug Moore's hoarse shout peaks in the infernally epic ten-minute bacchanal of The Mother Of Virtues, one of the genre's masterpieces. All jagged and thorny, the instrumental score of Sleeper Agent sets the stage for a split-personality show by the vocalist. Balkanized is their idea of acrobatic rock'n'roll, an orgy at high speed of odd tempos, guitar squeaks and vocal shrieks (that gets even more savage when it slows down). The scaffolding of Implant Fever creaks and shakes dangerously, with every element pushed to the limit and the vocalist shifting among different psychotic personas. Invisible Injury dumps seven more minutes of extenuating psychological violence, showing little respect for form and tradition (with a three-minute instrumental coda which is a delight of anti-mood music). The band assimilates lessons that come from as far as DNA, Slint, Captain Beefheart, and Laughing Hyenas. DiLella is a new master of atonality, worthy of the classics of the new wave and of free jazz.

>> No.52614709

>>52613730
he will

>>52614462
>>52614479
>>52614504
>>52614520
>>52614572
>>52614636
curious, do you usually judge albums having only listened to a fraction of it? maybe you could try listening to the whole thing and THEN form your opinion.


can we talk about scaruffi's other 7+/10s for 2014?

>Jonathan Badger: Verse
scaruffi: 7
me: haven't heard yet (fuck you artanis)

>Peter Batchelor: Kaleidoscope
scaruffi: 7
me: 6.5

>Richard Dawson: Nothing Important
scaruffi: 7
me: 6.5

>Robin Hayward: Nouveau Saxhorn Nouveau Basse
scaruffi: 7.5
me: 6

>Khun Narin: Electric Phin Band
scaruffi: 7.5
me: haven't heard yet

>Pyrrhon: The Mother of Virtues
scaruffi: 8
me: 7.5

>Secluded Bronte: Secluded in Jersey City
scaruffi: 7
me: haven't heard yet

not as consistent as he used to be, but then again, he showed me Mother of Virtues which is my 2014 AOTY right now

>> No.52614743

>>52614709
I'm sorry, but you are too obsessed/connected to Scaruffi.

ALSO
>curious, do you usually judge albums having only listened to a fraction of it? maybe you could try listening to the whole thing and THEN form your opinion.

Here's a thought: what's YOUR OPINION of the record?

>> No.52614759

>>52614709
where did I say I stopped listening to it after 4 tracks? I heard the first 4 tracks so far and was not impressed by it, nor by what I heard after that

>can we talk about scaruffi's other 7+/10s for 2014?
I'd rather not

>> No.52614771

>>52614709
there's not fucking point in listening to a full album if you didn't enjoy any of the songs you listened to you autistic garbage

>> No.52614781

>>52614709
>>52614743
Also, WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOUR RATINGS

What kind of fucking ego do you have for borderline copying the opinions of Scaruffi

>> No.52614803

>>52614709
Go back to your /daily/ containment thread you attention whore.

>> No.52614817

>>52614803
/daily/ is the worst general

>> No.52614828

>>52614817
+1

>> No.52614957

>>52614743
>I'm sorry, but you are too obsessed/connected to Scaruffi.
ok
>what's YOUR OPINION of the record?
it's very good, more progressive than I expected and it brings some new ideas to the table which is a good thing for such a stagnant genre like death metal.

>>52614759
>I'd rather not
why are you in this thread?

>>52614771
>there's not fucking point in listening to a full album if you didn't enjoy any of the songs you listened to you autistic garbage
theres no point in judging one if you didn't listen to it's entirety either

>>52614781
>WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOUR RATINGS
nobody does, I'm just trying to incite some conversation on his 2014 picks

also I can tell that you're getting pretty mad, you should cool down, I'm not attacking you

>> No.52614987

>>52614957
>why are you in this thread?
to discuss the album scaruffi gave an 8/10 to

>> No.52615071

>>52614957
>more progressive than I expected and it brings some new ideas to the table
Yeah but it still sounds like every other Death Metal record.

>> No.52615141

>>52614987
let's discuss it

what are it's weak points so far in your opinion? I feel like the opener is one of the clear disadvantages, but since you aren't as much as a fan as I am, you might show me some more downsides to the record

>>52615071
does it? could you show me another song that sounds like White Flag?

>> No.52615199

>>52612769

Julia Holter's Tragedy in 2011

>> No.52615243

>>52615141
>could you show me another song that sounds like White Flag?
No, because I don't have any favorite Death Metal bands. I don't listen to it because it is monotonous non-affecting wank.

>> No.52615248

>giving a 8/10 to an album devoid of sound collages and atonal freeform jams in which the tracks don't go above 15 minutes and the singer doesn't attempt multiple vocal harmonies at the same time
RIP in piece scruffles

>> No.52615289

>>52615199
surprised he gave Loud City Song a 6, I found it to be on par with Tragedy. Where Loud City Song is the more enjoyable, but Tragedy is the more impressive. Both 7.5/10 for me, I have a tough time deciding my favorite

>>52615243
so you're saying that it sounds like every other death metal album, even though you don't listen to death metal? ok anon

>> No.52615317

>>52615141
http://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Death+Metal

>> No.52615322

>>52615289
>so you're saying that it sounds like every other death metal album, even though you don't listen to death metal?
I obviously wouldn't have the assessment of "monotonous non-affecting wank" if I haven't listened to Death Metal.

>> No.52615381

>>52615322
but surely you would know a song that sounds like White Flag since you've listened to death metal. show me one please, it's not that hard right?
>>52615317
>>52615317
song please

>> No.52615401

>>52614709

kill yourself autist, your band sucks, this sounds like any generic gaza/TDTDE shit band

>> No.52615442

>>52615381
>but surely you would know a song that sounds like White Flag since you've listened to death metal.
I don't remember single tracks from isolated bands that I have universally disliked.

>> No.52615470

>>52615442
so nothing to back up your claim? huh

>> No.52615488

>>52615442
Why are you in a thread discussing a genre that you don't listen to?

>> No.52615519

>>52615470
Are you implying that I should be asinine enough to rate and catalog all albums I hate? I just pass them on. I don't spend time with them.

>> No.52615531

>>52615470
What is the point of posting anything to you when you are going to go full "this isn't similar at all lol?" There is no arguing with biased Scaruffy drones in denial

>> No.52615547

>>52615488
Because I've still heard enough of it through time to know that this is nothing special.

>> No.52615555

>not filtering all and every trip from /daily/
You're at fault /mu/.

>> No.52615575

>>52615555
Quads confirm.

The problem is that, if I filter him, it'll just be others responding to him.

>> No.52615581

Scaruffi's taste declined pretty hard ~15 years ago, very sad.

At-least he is reviewing things again.

>> No.52615605

>>52615488
no anon, he has listened to hundreds of death metal albums, he just doesn't remember any of them :^)
>>52615519
i didn't imply anything. just show me a death metal song that sounds like White Flag, you did say that they all sound the same, so it shouldn't be too tough of a task, shouldn't it?
>>52615531
>What is the point of posting anything to you when you are going to go full "this isn't similar at all lol?"
whats the hurt in posting one though? it would take less time typing all that out than posting a song

>> No.52615636

>>52614172
>HOoM just feels like a long collection of songs
Opinion discarded.

>> No.52615688

>>52615605
Arguably this sounds just as technical/atonal.
http://music.throatruinerrecords.com/album/forceps

But I'm going to fucking sit through 10 minute death metal songs just to find one that appeases some Scaruffi drone.

>> No.52615703

>>52615581
Solex, Spring Heel Jack, Newsom, Demdike Stare, Vladislav Delay, and Tarantel are all solid picks for his 2000s 8/10s, don't you think?

i think that his taste is starting it's decline right now

>>52615688
i'll check it out

>> No.52615735

>>52614479
>>52614572
You guys do know he gave shit like Roots, Slipknot and Korn 8/10s right? I mean better late than never that you stop paying attention to Scruffy but still, let's not pretend that it's only NOW that he's gone off the deep end. He's always been shit.

>> No.52615762

>>52615735
>he gave shit like Roots, Slipknot and Korn 8/10s
source?

>> No.52615766

>>52615735
Scaruffy knows nothing about metal, never trust him in the subject. Pyrrhon is yet another example.

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>> No.52615805

>does it take cues from/is it similar to Captain Beefheart/Pere Ubu/Faust/Throbbing Gristle/Slint/random avant-garde artist?
>8+/10

>does it take cues from/is it similar to The Beatles/Radiohead/U2/David Bowie/Pavement?
>4/10

Scaruffi in a nutshell.

>> No.52615806

>>52615703
>don't you think?
No not really, I'm pretty indifferent to the first five and have never heard the sixth.

Gnaw Their Tongues and Shit and Shine are probably the only 8s he has given since 2000 that I've thought deserved it.

>> No.52615903

>>52615762
www.scaruffi.com/vol7/slipknot.html
www.scaruffi.com/vol6/sepultur.html
www.scaruffi.com/vol5/korn.html

Korn and Slipknot were actually 7.5 and 7 it turns out but my point still stands.

>> No.52615916

>>52614709
Your 2014 AOTY is only a 7.5? Do you actually enjoy music?

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>>52615766
>Khanate on his best of 2000s list

>> No.52615946

>>52615916
He's a Scaruffi drone. Don't take him seriously.

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>> No.52615996

>>52615903
>but my point still stands.
Is your point we shouldn't pay attention to him because he forms his own opinion and doesn't accept groupthink?

>> No.52616056

>>52614709
Has Scruffy ever actually given something a 10?

>> No.52616089

>>52615766
>Scaruffy knows nothing about metal, never trust him in the subject. Pyrrhon is yet another example.
his best metal of all time list is pretty bad admittedly, but Pyrrhon is actually great, didn't expect a scaruffi-core metal album to be this good

>>52615735
It's his opinion. It's respectable that he doesn't go around conforming to what other people say.

I'd like to see you try to rate thousands of albums and not offend anyone

>>52615795
wasn't a big fan of this album, but I respect it

>>52615806
oh fuck, I forgot about Ladybird, what an amazing album. definitely agree with his 8 there. I didn't really like Gnaw Their Tongues all too much though, and only the first 3 I listed were above a 7.5/10 imo. I think they're still good picks, better than any other review site I've seen.

Where do you find new music from?

>>52615916
I love music, anything I rate 7 or above I love. A lot of review sites do 8+ or 9+ = love, but I prefer having separate tiers and not inflating my ratings.

7 = really good, exceptional
8 = amazing
9 = masterpiece
10 = perfect

>>52616056
Beethoven's Symphony No. 9 in D minor iirc

>> No.52616120

>>52616089
>>>/daily/

>> No.52616140

>>52616056
Captain Beefheart, Trout mask Replica.

>> No.52616157

>>52616089
>Beethoven's Symphony No. 9 in D minor
>not any Symphony 5-8

Hahahahahahahaha

>> No.52616174

>>52616140
that's his favorite rock album, "only" a 9.5

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>>52616089
>No. 9
>when No. 5 is the clearly superior, refined choice
Talk about shit taste.

>> No.52616216

>>52616191
>>52616157
No. 5 is his 5th favorite

http://www.scaruffi.com/music/symphony.html

>> No.52616223

>>52616174
Fucking hell what a tryhard

>> No.52616231

>>52616216
That doesn't make his taste any better.

>> No.52616244

>>52616216
OK.
That's still wrong.

Also, the very fact that he put a numerical rating on a classical piece shows how laughable he is.

>> No.52616247

>>52616223
come on, do you actually think your favorite album is flawless? that nothing at all could be improved?

>>52616231
did I say it did?

>> No.52616266

>>52616244
>the very fact that he put a numerical rating on a classical piece shows how laughable he is.
he didn't though

>> No.52616310

>>52616266
Well you shouldn't have said:
>>52616056
>Has Scruffy ever actually given something a 10?
>>52616089
>Beethoven's Symphony No. 9 in D minor iirc

>> No.52616313

>>52616174
probably the closest we will get then. Didn't he say something about 10's being impossible or something?

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>>52613417
>>52612787
they're duck shoes wolfs

check ll bean

>> No.52616343

>>52616319
>>52612787
>>52613417
wait nevermind im high as shit i dont know what im talking about

they might jsut be hiking shoes

>> No.52616360

I wouldn't trust Scruffy with opinions concerning metal. Didn't he refer to Slipknot or some other such band as Death Metal?

>> No.52616403

>>52616360
I wouldn't trust Scruffy with anything aside from 60s-90s rock music.

>> No.52616412

Almost all of his favorite albums are from the 60s and the 70s, he is obviously biased toward older music.

>> No.52616417

>>52616089
>>52616089
>Where do you find new music from?
For 2015 releases I like ondarock.it the most; it's italian and kind of plebby, but they review practically everything.

>> No.52616439

>>52616412
or maybe that music is just generally better?

>> No.52616491

>>52616310
iirc he said it was perfect once

perfect = 10/10 on his rating scale

>>52616417
cool, i'll check it out, I haven't found much worthwhile this year or last year on my own, maybe this site will help out

>> No.52616522

>>52616247
Yes. Absolutely. Do you really not think the best piece of recorded music you've ever heard in your life is worthy of 10? Like the absolute zenith of artistic creation is still beneath you in some capacity? Why would you even bother with a 10 scale if you're never actually going to use it? It just smacks of pretension.

>> No.52616532

>>52616439
I am biased toward newer music because its what I grew up listening to. That doesn't make it better and that doesn't make his opinion any more credible either.

>> No.52616580

>>52616522
there are multiple albums I would not change a single thing on that I would personally consider a 10/10

>> No.52616641

>>52616580
Are you the same guy I was quoting minus the trip?

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>>52616417
wow you aren't joking when you say it's plebby

>>52616522
>Why would you even bother with a 10 scale if you're never actually going to use it?
who knows if I'll use it or not? I haven't heard every single album/song/piece/etc. ever made, I haven't even heard a fraction of a thousandth of a percent of recorded music.

>>52616580
lucky you, you've found your perfect album.

people like me haven't, who knows if I ever will? regardless, I refuse to say something is a 10/10 if I feel it could be improved

>> No.52616716

>>52616649
What's your highest rated album and how would you improve it?

>> No.52616731

>>52616649
There must be albums that are nearly there though, like with one song that isn't perfect right?

>> No.52616755

>>52616649
Yeah lol, there's a best of 2014 article on the main page and it's much worse.

Still, they review ~1,000 albums a year and include a link to sample each one (for most of them at-least); so it's a nice way to learn that things exist, just ignore the scores.

>> No.52616926

>>52616716
Faust is my favorite album of all time

some tracks could be longer and some shorter, also the poetry could be better. that's about it. I fucking love the album more than anything and I get goosebumps whenever I play, but I can still admit it has some flaws.

>>52616731
there are a couple of songs I feel are perfect, for example Alife by Robert Wyatt. I don't think it could be improved at all. The last 3 minutes with Ivor Culter really brings the album down in my opinion. Would definitely be in my top 10 or 5 without that Cutler sample

>>52616755
as long as I can sample them easily, it's fine by me. I'll have to check bandcamp more often as well

>> No.52616961

>>52616716
>>52616731
Please stop feeding his misplaced ego.

>> No.52616994

>>52616926
Make sure to check out labels as well; if a label has released anything you've liked this decade, you should probably check up on it every so often.

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