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Only concert I've been to, we all just sat in our seats and listened to the musician. It was pleasant.

Just do what you would do if nobody is watching, as for somebody bumping in to you, just bump back in to them until they get the point.

if you're tall you're supposed to be off to the side, I'd know

and how you act depends on the genre, just don't be an idiot is the main thing

>>51564740
I heard you're supposed to grope women or something

>>51564829
What if you get caught

>>51564796
This. it really depends on the music for what is appropriate etiquette.

You go to an indie show and people won't move much. Electronic people will dance in their space. If you go to a hardcore show just stay out of the pit and nobody will touch you. If you're at a (death/thrash) metal, grind, or PV show you'll probably get hit even outside the pit, potentially thrown to the ground or have someone land on your head unless you stand in the back.

>>51564952
nothing. you're protected by the patriarchy, brother.

>>51564740

"Don't be a dick"

It's the only rule

>>51564796
Tallfag here, I too stand off to the side for the most part during shows. Don't want to stand way in the back, but also don't want to block anyone else's view.
Other than that, just don't be an asshole, and please don't do that shitty karate dancing that all the "HXC MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!" assholes do.

>>51564796

Basically this.

Also fuck thinking you HAVE to dance or shit like that. Unless it's a wild show where EVERYONE is feeling it and if you're standing with your arms crossed in a sea of flailing bodies, then it might be a little weird. But standing and soaking in the music at a show is perfectly fine. I've done it at shows where I was more sober and/or didn't know the music so much.

>>51564978
> If you're at a (death/thrash) metal, grind, or PV show you'll probably get hit even outside the pit, potentially thrown to the ground or have someone land on your head unless you stand in the back
Not true at all. No one throws punches at metal shows. They just push each other around in the pit and help people get up when they fall down. Hardcore shows are where you have people throwing their fists around and kicking the air, which can easily hurt you.

>no

>>51565036

I've seen both. I think there are more variables to consider, like venue and specific band and popularity. Because I've seen bands that used to be more indie and the pits were fun and helpful get bigger and all of a sudden douchebags in snapbacks were there shoving kids to the ground and swinging fists.

>>51565036
>Hardcore shows are where you have people throwing their fists around and kicking the air, which can easily hurt you.
Yeah, that shit's for metalcore and all that shit. I went to hardcore punk shows all throughout my teenage years and purposely throwing fists was never acceptable, even in the more aggressive pits. And no one ever flailed their legs around like they were trying to fly.

Since we're on the subject, there is pit etiquette. Obviously don't just flap your limbs around like you're attracting customers to a car dealership and if someone falls down, pick them up. Head trauma is no good for anyone.

>>51565036
Depends what kind of bands you've seen. I've been to a bunch of metal shows where people stand around, where the pit is friendly jostling and pushing, and I've been at other shows where people are bulldozing others, stagediving feet first, throwing elbows at head-level, etc. This isn't just a hardcore thing, but you probably won't see it at most popular metal, folk, black, or doom metal shows. Most death and thrash is completely fine too, and you usually have the option of avoiding the pit unless you're in a small venue. There's just those few that you need to be wary at.

I never mentioned anyone not helping you, but yeah even at the most violent shows most people will try to help you.

Still, I've seen broken noses and chipped teeth. Friends have lost shirts (I've lost a shirt) because of people getting caught and tearing them.

>>51565203
Yeah it is a little more complex than my post, I just get irritated when people take stereotypes associated with hardcore (and hardcore dancing is more of a punk/hardcore thing than a metal thing, although now it's mainly a metalcore thing) and associate them with metal. Not that metal is inherently better, both scenes and genres have their ups and downs. I think it partially has to do with the age of the crowd. At older thrash shows I've been to, all the 40 year old guys just shove each other around, while at some pop punk shows I've been to, you have kids throwing their fists around to a pop song about loving a girl and hating your town.

>>51565308
>I've been at other shows where people are bulldozing others, stagediving feet first, throwing elbows at head-level, etc
I've been to a fair amount of metal shows and never saw this, guess I'm just lucky. Last show I went to, some people were throwing fists in the pit, and security threw them out. Maybe that's why I never see them. It wasn't a big venue or anything, it was a $10 show with maybe 100 people in the crowd, but it wasn't an underground basement show.

>>51565246
Exactly. There is etiquette, and throwing fists is NOT acceptable. Same with ninja kicks (you only ever see shit like that at metalcore shows anyway). Doesn't mean people don't do it, unfortunately.

I meant it originally as something to be wary of, not something to really emulate as an acceptable move. Sorry for the miscommunication.

>>51565310

Yeah, I know what you mean. I've been to some pop punk shows in the last month and the kids just keep fucking stage-diving, to be cool I'm sure. But shit, when a constant barrage of bodies are coming down on you, it gets dangerous.

I totally agree with the shit Joyce Manor said. WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT. I understand the appeal of moshing and throwing yourself around with people feeling the same shit as you, screaming lyrics at the top of your lungs. But jumping on people's heads? Por que?

>>51565329
Yeah, it's always seedier venues where you see this stuff. Sometimes I like seeing smaller bands, local artists, etc. and this shit occurs. I can't tell if its angry grognards spastically releasing their anger or just some diehards getting riled up. A more popular example is that Entombedcore band Nails. Seeing them live was a ton of fun but they had a bunch of diehards who were completely oblivious of others around them.

Usually throwing fists will get you kicked out of anywhere but a small club.

>>51565351
I crowd surfed once because a couple other people randomly lifted me up without me asking, and being thrown around by a bunch of people is pretty fun, so I get the appeal of stage diving, but it's only fun for the person doing the stage diving. Don't want to ruin the fun for everyone else. Joyce Manor is definitely right; seemed like I was the only one who agreed with them.

Seriously why would you do something like this at the show of a band that's almost as poppy as 5 Seconds of Summer?

>>51565405
OK That was not the correct picture.

What if someone smaller than you asks if they can move in front? Saw this one couple refuse and while I believe they had the right to it was a little bit dickish. They did end up getting into a fight later that night so they were probably assholes

>>51565419
If there's room to move, just go for it. If there isn't, deal with it. I'm not all that tall, so usually I'd just wait until the crowd started moving, then worm my way to the front. Usually ended up resting on the stage. But if people are packed like sardines, don't ask someone to contort themselves to help you get in front of them.

>>51565405
>>51565415

Ugh, god, I saw Man Overboard open for All Time Low (ex-gf and I took her little sister, I promise!) and oh my god, they sounded like complete fucking shit. All the bands did. And sitting there hungover with all the parents while pubescent girls threw their bras onstage during ATL was one of the most weirdly disturbing moments of my life. It was so gross. The guys in ATL are like almost 30, what the fuck. Not punk rock.

Anyway back to the topic, I think. There's not much wrong with being lifted and riding the wave of hands. But jumping like your pic is so different. What kind of retard would think a cannonball-flip into PEOPLE would be a good idea?

>>51565445

Why? I'm average height (5'10) and even in crowded shows let shorter people go in front of me.

>>51565419

They were complete assholes. Unless the person asking to go through was bigger then there's no reason not to. Concerts are places for feelings of togetherness and shit like that, not OMG I NEED TO SEE PERFECTLY WITH MY IPHONE RAISED HIGH.

I've seen people be dicks like that, and called them out, usually other people do too.

>>51565507
Because it's a huge pain in the ass to maneuver around when you're crammed in shoulder to shoulder.

>>51565538

Sure, but it's going to happen. As soon as the music starts nobody is going to be standing where they were.

>>51565507
Then don't. If it's crowded and you'll get in a worse situation, try not to do so by saying "I can't, I'm sorry" or some other shit.

But, I do know your feeling, m8. It's hard to look someone in the face and tell them that you can't, even if you did it politely, and especially if it was some 8/10 qt3.14 that you'll never have a chance with. But, if it's gonna cause you pain, just say no. Move a bit and try your best to make it a bit easier for them, but just don't if you can't.

I know, you'll look like a complete dick and it's hard to get over yourself. But, sometimes, you just fucking can't.

Do whatever you want. If you don't want to dance, then don't dance. You paid to be there and nobody can make you do anything. Just maximize happy and don't impede on other people's good time.

>>51565565
Exactly. So if you're short and behind someone taller, just wait until you aren't. Like you said earlier, concerts aren't about people needing to see perfectly.