/mu/ - Music (Temp full images)

>>50716637
At the very least, the people who run the site/reviewers who have seniority probably influence the scoring of albums by other reviewers, making the grading a kind of a hipness score formed by consensus. We all know if something originally rated poorly goes on to become hipster memecore like Neutral Milk Hotel, its long-term hipness is reevaluated and the old reviews are deleted.

Anyway, I don't mean for this to be some kind of antifeminist post. I'm just saying that there's probably just as much corrupt, underhanded shit going on as in the video game industry, if not much more so. But most everyone on this board still seems to praise and parrot the opinions of the finicky Ian Cohens of the world (who most likely cannot even play a bar chord). The masses read these reviews, most unfortunately lacking in critical thought, thinking these "indie" bands are organically reaching their ears due to their own merits and hard work, not mainly because of a coercive, manipulative hypemachine, just like any other corner/sector of the entertainment industry.

>>>/x/

Get the fuck back to /v/.

GamerGate is nothing more than a campaign to attack women and "SJWs" and you should feel ashamed for making this thread.

>>50716688
>low_quality_bait.bmp

>>50716646
Uses "memecore" and "hipster" in an attemptto prove something

FUCK OFF

As terrible p4k is for the scene at least they don't hold as much fucking political power as game "journalists" do

I doubt struggling indie labels are throwing "kickbacks" at pitchfork so they can get decent reviews.

>>50716688
I didn't say anything about women. I just said that music reviewers on highly influential sites like Pitchfork are probably corrupt and influenced by things other than their actual opinions on the music. I think GamerGate is fucking stupid to be honest.

>>50716708
>hurr durr we exposed absolutely nothing
>take a look at these emails from a conspiracy website that prove journalists talk to each other sometimes
>also, they're defending the woman we continue to harass!
>le mass SJW conspiracy


again, get the fuck back to /v/

>>50716688
Get the fuck back to tumblr

I know music journalism is corrupt but music is a wayyyy way much bigger fish than videogames, lots of shady and criminal people involved.
And there is nothing you can do about it :^)

>>50716688
I agree with the second line but I think OP brings up some sort of valid points

Its just that I figured it was well known that review sites occasionally take bribes for better scores, just that its not the norm.

>>50716735
no shit. why do you think all this top 40 shit is getting BNM these days. p4k is just the new rolling stone these days. Time to find the new press outlet that isn't corrupt as fuck yet

>>50716744
I'm annoyed that you brought up GamersGate as if it had some sort of validity. If there is "corruption" in the gaming industry, it's not anywhere near where those reactionary faggots think it is (i.e. women and "feminist" websites). You want to attack corruption, attack Gamespot or Electronic Arts, not fucking indie developers who are women who make up less than 5% of an industry that already marginalizes them. It's just some dumb reactionary shit to "SJWs" and anything that comes from 4chan will be the same. People here would spend more time attacking Grimes or Perfect Pussy for the "feminazi" conspiracy than people who are actually corrupt, likely the major labels.

>>50716637
Why the fuck does people care about someone elses opinion on music? You know music is subjective right? A 10/10 to someone isn't 10/10 to you

Or do you guys really feel this insecure and need to fit in with the rest of /mu/ so badly?

>>50716833
lol , you mean women who make shit games and fuck a bunch of reviewers to get a good score

>>50716833
Nepotism should be halted at the ground floor.

>>50716833
Yeah games have been fucked up as a medium pretty much since inception. Getting rid of feminazis isn't gonna fix shit.

>>50716830
Do you really think big labels give a shit about what pitchfork thinks? They're giving Pop albums decent scores out of a desperate attempt to stay relevant in a medium where pitchfork is regarded with almost universal contempt

Fucking /mu/ bluepilled as fuck. All the more reason to stay at superior chan forever

>>50716833
I'm not saying that GG had any sort of legitimacy, it just got me thinking about how the music industry must have corrupt dealings going on. People underestimate how much the influence of other people's listening habits or opinions has on them. Go listen to some random Soundclouds and you'll see there's a lot of good music out there that will go absolutely nowhere because the bands/artists do not know how to market themselves and don't have the keys to the juggernaut hype machines that bring things to forefront that once were obscure.

>>50716902
master chin is degenerate shit for pedophiles

enjoy your shithole

>>50716872
>>50716874
Evidence that Zoe Quinn or any other woman got a positive review from someone she slept with.

Oh wait, you don't have any because it doesn't fucking exist but you'll keep repeating this garbage anyways.

Keep telling yourself this isn't a misogynist campaign while you lie through your teeth about a fucking indie developer. Good job guys, you're driven about 5 women out of their homes now. Keep fighting that video game corruption!

>>50716912
I agree with you to an extent. I don't know that pitchfork is corrupt in the sense of being paid off, but I do think they're a business that wants to make money, so they'll appeal to the widest fanbase they can. The real problem, which I wouldn't call "corruption," is at the labels who have a monopoly on what becomes popular in the music industry and they tend to pander to the lowest common denominator (and produce a lot of "fake" artists)

My problem is that anything that comes out of 4chan will miss this point and immediately attack women or "SJWs." They'll scream about corruption on pitchfork but attack the Perfect Pussy woman for writing the Kozelek article and send her rape threats on twitter. 4chan is pointless for these kind of things.

>>50717000
Rape and death threats don't even mean anything.

>>50717000
>Evidence that Zoe Quinn or any other woman got a positive review from someone she slept with.
>Oh wait, you don't have any because it doesn't fucking exist but you'll keep repeating this garbage anyways.

I don't believe that, because gamergate started because of that evidence

>>50716902
>basing your life philosophy around a late 90s action movie

>>50716899
I was mainly saying this applies to independent music, whose success obviously is influenced (positively or negatively) by things like Pitchfork. Look at the Last.fm listener page for Pharmakon, who recently got a favorable review. http://www.last.fm/music/Pharmakon The listeners more than doubled after this review came out.

Even in the case of something like Kanye West, do think that getting 10s on Pitchfork (who normally pans anything popular) doesn't legitimize him to a lot of people who would have otherwise written him off as too mainstream?

>>50717000
Absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

You could just blindly accept what people tell you, though. That seems to work for lots of people.

Taste in music is far more subjective than in gaming. Also music industry and journalism is much better than gaming's.

Go back to /v/

>gamergate

Why are gamers such unbelievable fags? Gaming and Anime have some of the worst fanbases.

>>50716867
p4k drones are nerds scum

>>50716867
The point is that 10/10 implies perfection. How often do you really think perfect albums are made?

Gamers are probably the worst people on Earth.

>>50717213
I don't know, "music nerds" are pretty fucking intolerable.

>>50717000
I didn't want to get into the feminist shit, as I consider myself relatively progressive when it comes to things like this, but the Kozelek thing seems a bit suspicious. It's like the site tried to backpedal as if saying "sorry we gave that asshole such a good score". Do you really think they'd be posting diatribes if Lil' Wayne or someone wrote a song talking about sucking cocks? It seems like posting an article critical of Kozelek, shortly after giving Benji a great score was a way of saying that they misjudged Kozelek as a person, not necessarily his music. Also getting the woman from Perfect Pussy to write the article can serve as a way for the staff of the site to disassociate themselves somewhat from the specifics of what she wrote, in case some (probably male) readers disagreed. They're trying to have their cake and eat it too. I'm not one of those delusional women hating conspiracy theorists, but Pitchfork is obviously trying to cultivate a somewhat progressive public image, and sometimes they need to react when someone they just praised to beat hell starts acting like a huge prick in public/interviews (though not necessarily a blatant misogynist or homophobe.)

>I doubt that the site makes much money from its American Apparel and microbrew ads (or whoever the fuck advertises there these days).

i don't think you realize how much money is in online ad revenue. even a moderately successful youtube channel can bring in 100k/month.

it's a relatively small operation with little overhead. schreiber is a millionaire without question.

>>50717213
if you identify as a 'gamer' you have emotional problems and issues with your mum

Daily reminder that video games are only for fat neckbear faggots

>>50717277
This is so true that it actually feels like bullying to point it out.

>>50717277
Perfect example of the rhetoric used against gamergate. Grate jorb.

>>50717231
Yeah, but they're the ignorable type of intolerable.
Gamers are just fucking relentless and unavoidable.

Reminded that if you actually consider games to be art then should realize how shit they all are and avoid them.

>>50717291
that was nothing to do with gamergate its just that every 'gamer' i've met has had those issues

i like videogames there are a few good ones

i hope they get better
gamers are some of the worst and least well adjusted people though

gamergate is ridiculous though

Weeaboos and gamers need to be gassed.

>>50716646
>But most everyone on this board still seems to praise and parrot the opinions of the finicky Ian Cohens of the world
literally no one does this. It's just a joke.

>>50717316
lsd is the only game that is good art

and its a boring game

>>50717291
>Grate Jorb

Cool meme lingo.

This thread is going to get shitcanned if you keep discussing fringe psychopathic gamers instead of the probably corruptness of the music industry/music journalists. Go post that shit on your inferior asshole refugee chans.

>>50717344
>the music industry and popular music journalists are corrupt
Is this you first day outside the vidya realm?

>>50717294
Are you talking about self-identifying "gamers" or people who play video games? Because even people who don't brag about their Steam library 24/7 in public care about integrity in journalism.

>>50717342
Nice ironic post.

>>50717344
Watch out, he knows a guy who was a mod once. Talk about music or get banned.

>>50717373
No, I just mean that threads discussing that shit will generally get deleted on this site.

I'm really glad I don't know what the fuck you're talking about

Probably something to do with nerds rabidly defending tits in video games

>>50717369
why would you care about integrity in games journalism

thats like caring about integrity in connect 4 or monopoly journalism

you cant have good journalism about something that is worthless outside of a very small group of exceptions

gamergate is a boys club getting teary because some girls got in the clubhouse

>>50717389
I was kidding ya gewf

>>50716637
the lead singer of Lithurgy is the son of a Texas oil tycoon etc etc... its all intertwined one way or another. even making authentic music that comes from the heart has become fetishized...

>>50717405
I care about integrity in all journalism, brah. The big outlets are corrupt. Why are grassroots journalists (the word blogger might be more appropriate) behaving the same way? Why can't people be honest?

every gamergater argument:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Qn1uHlRIY

>>50717420
>metal
>authentic music that comes from the heart

>>50717425
go 2 yr mate and ask if the toy is good
why do boys need toy review lol

>>50716637
The difference is that popular (including indie) music fans (including /mu/) mostly only care about cultivating a personal image, so there's no motivation for them as an interest group to stand up against corrupt music journalism the same way gamers have risen up against corrupt game journalism. They actually are invested in the state of their hobby, whereas you're all invested in making charts.

Cheers,
/classical/

So wait what's wrong with women in games not having to be over-sexualised and creepy?

Reminder that video games are not art but a sport.

>>50717458
'femenazis ruining my hobby'

>>50717447
Why review anything then? I mean, you realize that asking your friend what they think of something is the same thing as seeking out what somebody thinks of the same thing on the Internet, right?

>>50717458
That's not what it's about.

>>50717456
Also this.

>>50717470
art is important and worth talking about
toys arent

>>50717490
lel you're one of those people who puts music on a huge pedestal.

>>50716688
Honourable Mention: The Artwork

The GamerGate tag on both Twitter and Tumblr are plastered with artwork depicting certain milestones during the GamerGate scandal and The Fine Young Capitalists’ recent character: Vivian James, who is now a sort of mascot for GamerGate. This goes to show how creative gamers can be and solidifies the sense of community in the tags. There’s some really great talent in there.

>>50716688
10. The Escapist Policy Changes

One of the main goals of GamerGate was for popular gaming news websites to establish a higher calibre of journalistic integrity, and to openly acknowledge the difference between fact and opinion in reviews. The concerns did not fall on deaf ears as The Escapist published a post detailing that they had put themselves under review and were “imperfect in maintaining journalistic standards”.
Of course, supporters of GamerGate rejoiced at this news, even setting up accounts for The Escapist forum to further discuss the subject. This boost for morale was not met without adversity however, as a DDOS attack targeting the thread dedicated to GamerGate went under way. Although this ultimately solidified the idea that these conversations are important, and the thread targeted still thrives today with over 25K replies.

Hampus is in this thread, just a fyi guys.

>>50717507
uh no but music is great
games are ok but are toys, not art
i like all forms of art, not just music

>>50717025
They don't? Cool. So you'd be cool with thousands of people flooding your online accounts, calling your home phone, scaring your family, sending nude pictures to your family, constantly trying to ruin your career with BS?

>>50717040
It's nice that you don't believe that, how about you share "that evidence" then?

>>50717100
There is NO FUCKING REVIEW. Are you this dense? You could find said review very easily if it existed. Otherwise you're just harassing people (i.e. women) on the basis that "absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence." This borders on an argument from ignorance.

>>50717233
Pitchfork historically has not held black artists accountable, even when artists like Tegan and Sara called them out on it. I sort of understand what you mean about having your cake and eating it too, but I also think it's important for a site to have dissenting opinions, and I think that the Kozelek article is likely not read by most or dismissed as "extremist" as many people on here have done.

>>50716688
9. Funding of the Fine Young Capitalists' Charity

One of the most celebrated victories of GamerGate and one of the most important. This charity, devoted to providing women with an opportunity to make games (and absolutely ignored by most mainstream gaming news sites), was given $23,601 from 4chan’s referral link, which was extensively linked to in GamerGate threads. As a result, the charity raised over $65,000 and is currently in the process of making their game.
Detractors of GamerGate have insisted this was “spite-funding”, but for a group of supposedly hateful misogynists, this is very contradictory behaviour. In reality, TFYC was funded because they have a clear goal: they want more women in gaming, and instead of complaining to others about why it makes them sad, they’ve taken the situation in their own hands and are attempting to solve it. This respectability is why they’ve increased in popularity lately.

>>50717490
this nigga old

It would certainly explain their obsession with Justin Timberlake

>>50717567
im 19 :P

>>50716688
8. #notyourshield

This was mentioned in a previous article, but is worth bringing up again because it’s perhaps the most heart-warming of victories: A hashtag dedicated to exposing the diversity of gamers. The name stems from minorities, women, and members of the LGBT community, who claim that they are all individuals, are not to be spoken for – and confidently identify as gamers.
The hashtag is also a response to a seemingly large narrative that claims GamerGate is merely a fit of straight, white, and male gamers. Of course, a simple browse through the GamerGate tag on Twitter would instantly disprove this theory and yet many people (especially on Tumblr) think this is the case.
The NotYourShield tag only grew in popularity when accusations of “sock-puppeting” became common among anti-GG advocates. To call a user a sock-puppet is to claim that they don’t really believe what they’re saying, or are just fake accounts. This, understandably, resulted in many people taking pictures of them holding inspirational messages relating to the NotYourShield and GamerGate tag, many of which are still being posted.
The tag encapsulates the solidarity and diversity of gamers and is a proud sight.

>>50717549
Literally Who hasn't been relevant for several weeks. Stop shilling, Hampus.

>>50717549
>You could find said review very easily if it existed.
>implying it hasn't been altered
>implying you're not succumbing to the smear campaign from the gamergate opposition

>>50717517
Okay.

>>50717531
Do you really think this was anything more than just a way to try to appease the extremely volatile masses? They obviously don't like you guys.

Maybe you should be going after IGN and GameSpot, just an idea.

>>50717593
Stop shilling yourself, /v/irgin.

>>50717593
7. GameJournoPros

The most informative victory and a confirmation that GamerGate was, and is, needed. Milo Yiannopoulos – a journalist for Breitbart.com – exposed a secret mailing list which features “several prominent gaming journalists across America… discuss[ing] what to cover, what to ignore, and what approach their coverage should take”.
The journalist then went further in another article published the week after where names of journalists from Kotaku, Polygon, Ars Technica, Destrutoid, and too many more were dropped. This revelation itself was of little surprise to GamerGate advocates, as suspicion of this sort of activity was already high.
Other than the reveal, the fact that eleven articles were published from different media websites in less than 24 hours all claiming a variation of “gamers are dead” made gamers realise that they were actively being targeted.

>>50716688
>>50717614

>>50716688
6. Intel Pulling Advertising From Gamasutra

One of the missions of GamerGate was humorously dubbed ‘Operation: Disrespectful Nod’. The plan was to rally all gamers to politely email advertisers that advertised on the sites that slandered gamers. The sentiment behind this was that the advertisers would most likely not want to be affiliated with websites that antagonised gamers, and needed to be informed about the recent articles.
Intel heard GamerGate’s plea and have since retracted advertising from Gamasutra.com. This was then followed by a wave of thank-you emails and tweets from pro-GG supporters. Considering gamers are one of Intel’s biggest consumers, it’s not surprising why they wisely took down their advertising. The morale boost from this event further propelled GamerGate.

>>50717319
Hear, hear.
>>50717507
Know what's even more embarrassing? Considering video games to be a legitimate art form. lmfao.

>>50717593
>gamers and is a proud sight.
hahahha lmao

>>50716688
5. Newer and Fairer Gaming News Sites

Another practical victory on the GamerGate front. Many gamers have been inspired by the scandal to bring forward alternative gaming journalism websites that attempt to provide more balanced coverage of video games. This shows that GamerGate supporters not only want to disassociate with biased reporting but are engaged with improving videogame journalism as a whole.
These alternative sites include gatheryourparty.com, nichegamer.net, apgnation.com, goodgamers.us and many more are being promoted on the GamerGate hashtag on Twitter. This opportunity has also been used by GamerGate supporters to promote sites that have covered the scandal in a more balanced manner, such as techraptor.net.
With more gaming news sites being given the spotlight, it’s now easier than ever for gamers to find balanced coverage of videogames, free of any political agendas or passive aggressive bullying.

>>50717490
Which is odd because most cunts here don't ever talk about music, they just shitpost all day about nothing like you've been doing.

>>50717517
>>50717531
>>50717556
>>50717593
>>50717614
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>>50717673
what a totally unbiased and objective description of the gamergate scandal full of links with citations.

>>50717606
1) Evidence of even an "altered" review
2) Evidence of a review ever existing at all (webarchive is your friend)

>>50716688
4. Streaming

At last, streams that aren’t about people being average at videogames.
A surprisingly large number of streamers have taken to hitbox.tv and Youtube to express their views on GamerGate. These streams are very professional in that they discuss the situation with game developers to get their input and even some anti-GG advocates, which leads to exciting and informative debate.
These streams are run by a diverse group. Some women, LGBT, and ethnic minorities have all pitched in their views on the subject, creating a sort of news channel run by gamers. Probably the most popular stream, KingofPol, amasses thousands of viewers every time he streams, and lots of GamerGate news is shared and reflected upon.
Indie developers have also gained the confidence to appear on these streams and speak about the glowing problems within the videogame industry, such as nepotism and cronyism. Other than streams, developers have taken to Reddit and The Escapist to voice their concerns.

>>50717655
I don't even play videogames, broski. But I'm lucid enough to realize that the amount of effort that goes into making them, both artistically and from a logistical standpoint, vastly outweighs the effort it takes to make whatever flavor-of-the-week bedroom-pop you listen to.

>>50717652
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>>50717695
We all know how to use Google to find this virgin militia copypasta. So this thread doesn't get swept under the rug can you at least discuss how these issues apply to music, even if delusionally?

>>50716688
Recently, one neutral and two pro-GG women came on to Huffington Post Live to give their side of the story, including their experiences. What they said was enlightening and informative to both anti-GG and pro-GG. After the interview, supporters rushed to congratulate these ladies and thank the host (who did a good job letting the other side be heard) via Twitter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtzrUsi6Y1s

These ladies, while a little hot-headed, gave an excellent summation of what GamerGate is about and why it’s important. They also called out several major websites who were partly responsible for this scandal which further inspired GamerGate supporters to do the same. Hopefully, more mainstream coverage like this will occur.

I thought /v/tards and the "redpill" crowd said they were migrating to some other image board this month because 4chan got invaded by Tumblr or some shit.
What happened with that?

Honestly I have always just taken it as a given that nepotism was rampant in non-scholarly forms of criticism. Sites like Kotaku and Pitchfork are about selling products, not about seriously examining art.

>>50717681
Cite and correct biases please.

>>50717699
Video games take zero artistic effort in the aethetic sense of the word, considering the skill it takes to construct or code a video game as "artistic effort" is akin to taking rocket science as artistic effort.

>>50717773
Right, because video games are built from the ground up with zeros and ones. There's no storyboarding, artwork or acting done by anyone. It's all just generated by magical computer boxes.

>>50716688
2. Gamerfruit

This one deserves a mention because of how funny it is. A lady named Brianna Wu complained on her twitter because a recent major development conference hurt her feelings. In her tweet she mistakenly tagged a fresh produce imported named DICE Europe Ltd.
The victory is that the person behind the DICE Europe’s twitter than came out in support of GamerGate after taking the time to learn about it. They then coined #Gamerfruit, which encourages healthy snacking and taking photos of your videogame consoles with fruit on them.
They also proposed a game idea for which there is now a board for on eightchan, where programmer and artists gather to discuss who and how people are going to contribute to the production of the game.

>>50717773
And I find the sciences to be equally artistic, if you practice them with enough proficiency.

Since we're /v/ now, chew you havisfaction a single satisfact to snack that up?

>>50717590
your age is from the wrong generation

>>50717785
>storyboarding
You mean pale imitations of actual artisic medius?

>artwork
You mean pale imitations of actual artisic medius?

>>50717803
>I find the sciences to be equally artistic
Because deep down you remain being a child.

>>50717723
*3. The Huffington Post Live Interview

>>50716688
2. Breaking Through Censorship

This victory doesn’t get enough credit. Websites and forums such as Reddit, NeoGAF, and The Verge have attempted to stifle the discussion of the GamerGate scandal (Wikileaks commented on their Twitter about this). However, this consequently lead to the initial growth of it, allowing platforms to be opened for gamers to discuss the issues such as eightchan’s /gg/ and /v/ boards, the Escapist thread, and most predominantly, Twitter – where the heart of GamerGate lies.
Despite Twitter being where most of GamerGate takes place, many people have denounced GamerGate as an eightchan (Previously 4chan) conspiracy group. The owner of eightchan, Frederick Brennan, recently tweeted in response to this:
“I am not the leader of #GamerGate. I am the leader of an intl. free speech friendly board. Our policies are not the policies of #GamerGate.”

>>50716688
1. GamerGate Itself

GamerGate has been a long time coming – with its successes so far, supporters have felt nothing but pride and courage, yet remain diligent on Twitter calling out genuine misogynists and trolls.
As mentioned in the previous article about this subject, the amount of exposure and information GamerGate has brought forward means it has already won. The existence is the victory, to put it simply. Sites that encourage debate and objective journalism are starting to flourish, while the sites that have been condemned are being abandoned by pro-GG supporters.
A community has been created here, all united under a hobby they love with passion, and for a better functioning gaming press.

>>50717835
>artisic medius

Your spelling is as childish as your attitude.

Source: I used to a free with you until I grew up and realized that a piece of music or an illustration didn't magically become "less artistic" when coupled to other practical crafts.

>>50717769
Burden's on you broseph.

>>50717727
/v/irgins, /pol/acks, tumbrlinas and redditors have a twisted belief that the person who has the last word in an argument is the winner of the argument. This explains their irritating and silly behavior, incapability to provide a useful argument, and serves as proof that the two camps are not that different from each other.

>>50717835
You're ridiculous. If you don't understand that creativity is necessary to "do" science, then there is no hope for you. And undermining a storyboarder or concept/digital artist's talent simply because it's used to make a video game is similar to undermining a musician's talent simply because it's used to make dividends.

And at least scientists actually contribute meaningfully to the world and help to improve the human condition instead of pointing out how shitty it is.

>>50717836
Something's a bit funny about the "redpill" /pol/ crowd migrating to a site run by a kid whose rent is literally paid for by two guys who look like antisemetic cartoon Jew caricatures.

>>50717897
*agree with

>>50717556
#NotYourShield has proven to be bullshit .

>>50717614
The funny thing is how misleading this entire thing is: the only thing it exposed is that journalists talk to each other (what a surprise) and they were discussing how to handle the Zoe Quinn fiasco, no evidence that they decide what to cover, what to ignore, what approach their coverage should take except specifically to Zoe Quinn. And no, that doesn't mean how to review her game, it means how to handle the massive harassment. It's funny how you tell me to "stop shilling" for someone who hasn't been relevant for weeks while posting shit ABOUT said person who is no longer relevant.

>>50717652
Intel also released a statement that they are pro-equality and pro-feminist. Intel is just pandering to both sides, hardly a victory.

>>50717723
Oh my god, women support your cause too? So fucking what? Christina Hoffman Summers supports GamersGate too and she's about as anti-woman as they come.

>>50717792
You forgot to mention that GamersGate forced her out of her home from death threats. But uh, cool, a company called DICE supports the harassment?

>>50717836
Kek, Reddit is just as terrible as 4chan. Get a clue, they're just as anti-"SJW" as you. No one said that the owner of eight chan was "head" of GG, so what does this prove exactly?

>>50717859
Yes, a community of internet warriors with paranoid delusions who loathe women and feminism. Get a grip, the only positive image of GG comes from GG, the rest can see through the facade.

Such blatantly pandering propaganda that proves absolutely nothing.

>>50717909
/pol/ is mostly a joke, dude

it blows my mind that people still have trouble detecting sarcasm on the Internet

>>50717897
I like how you attack my misspelling instead of my argument once backed into a corner.

Video games are not art in the same sense as Radiohead and Neutral Milk Hotel are not art when compared to Bach or Beethoven.

>>50717940
Right, because you're the guy who gets to arbitrarily decide which musician makes art and which doesn't?

>>50717906
Actually the burden is not on me to identify biases which you have claimed (without evidence) to exist.

>>50717909
>pic
Sure is /pol/ in here.

Did the mods all drop dead or something?

>>50717979
you sure #rekt that anon a second anus with that fantastic .png you provided us there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmthbts0uDA

Educate yourselves.

>>50717997
>yfw the person arguing so fervently against GG ITT is a mod and deletes this thread once Xe gets backed into a corner

>>50717975
Because unlike you I am an actual appreciator of the arts.

Remember kids report for "illegal content" mods respond faster.

>>50718045
lel I'm sure.

Nice Beethoven and Bach name-drop, you dumb asshole.

>>50717935
It's not all a joke though, because a lot of people take it seriously. Yes, some are joking, but it's a case of poe's law where both extremists and non-extremists take things seriously and it's difficult to know what is real or not. To say that /pol/ is all satire and is not anti-feminist, anti-women, anti-"SJW" is bull shit though.

>>50718050
Dammit, that didn't occur to me.

>>50718062
I never said that /pol/ was "all satire." If you recall, I said it was mostly a joke.

>>50717929
>#NotYourShield has proven to be bullshit
[citation needed]

>>50717929
>she's about as anti-woman as they come
[citation needed]

>>50717929
>Intel also released a statement that they are pro-equality and pro-feminist.
So is GamerGate.

>>50717929
>GamersGate forced her out of her home from death threats
[citation needed]

>>50717929
>"SJW"
Whom are you quoting?

>>50717929
>the only positive image of GG comes from GG
https://storify.com/LadyFuzztail/gamergate-may-be-a-victim-of-a-false-flag-operati

Never mentioned Literally Who. /r/ing that "shut up about pancakes" comic.

>>50718052
What makes you sleep at night you immature weeaboo.

Enjoy treating your visual novels as the highest forms of artistic development all the while ignoring actual art.

>>50717979
That's an awesome and completely unsourced image that proves absolutely nothing even if it was true.

>>50718095
Again, I don't even play video games. I just like arguing with retards like you.

>>50718050
If there weren't multiple asshole hell bent on discussing crap that has absolutely nothing to do with music, there would be no valid reason to delete this thread and there might be some interesting discussion.