/mu/ - Music (Temp full images)

>>50497135
absolutely no or shallow analysis of the actual music itself

first old fuck thinks getting music for free has made it "just another commodity"

that old fuck needs to take some more economics classes

>>50497135
>yfw the chords are wrong

OH GOD THIS IS JUST THE WORST

>>50497361
Except he was correct.
Don't be so deluded.

"Of course I like Jimi Hendrix"
- MC Ride
Was he born in le wrong generation?

>>50497135
Death to guitar wankers

I'm not going to watch the video but what is he comparing? Music on the radio in the 60s vs music on the radio today? I'd honestly need to look at the top 40 charts from back then to make any kind of decision about anything but he might have some sort of point if that's what he's talking about. Maybe. Though I don't know what gets played on top 40 these days.

>>50497466
he went round his school showing people pictures of ronnie james dio and ac/dc

>>50497495
And that's what he's basing whatever argument he has on? Yeah, that is stupid. Show him some pop musicians from the 20s and 30s and see if he can recognize them.

>>50497466
lady gaga=bad
ac/dc=good

>AC/DC
>Good, Creative
Holy sides

>>50497521
Show him a photo of Tim Buckley and he'll vaguely recognize him at best.

now hes jealous that he isnt as sexy as justin timberlake

>>50497135
>BTFO out of
>blown the f*k out out of
>out out of
>out out

>>50497495
It's sad because he's prioritizing the artists' image over their music which is literally the argument he had against pop music, correct?

>>50497395
>Except he was correct.

Why do you say that?

>mfw wrong generation fags never bother searching anything other than rock from the boomer era
>tfw traditional folk, blues, country and non-Coltrane, Davis, the list goes on Jazz is ignored

>>50497460
He was born in the wrong dimension.

>>50497135
>>50497135
Goddamn that's so shallow, I hope one day he regrets recording this video

>>50497135
>Pop has always been overwhelmingly popular

Fucking brilliant.

his recommended list at the end is textbook

>Steve Vai: Why would I be a pop star when I can do this?!
>*starts obnoxiously wanking on guitar*

i kek'd

>>50497135
>music is bad because kids don't pay for it
>music is bad because it's only about making money

Seems like /mu/ is not ready for the red pill :^)

>>50497582
If you pirate an album, you are effecting placing its value as $0. Every album you pirate, whether it be an opera cycle by Furtwangler or the latest single from Katy Perry, is being devalued to the same point of $0.
What's more, there is no value for said item because the person does not own it. There was no tangible, free market exchange that explicitly gave them ownership of the album. As a result, they are much more likely to dump an album they are not rabidly in love with. It promotes a casual tossing aside of various albums and projects as not worth any money.

>>50497135
>ACDC better than Gaga
so incorrect. ACDC the most simplistic songs possible, Gaga can actually sing
also lel at the people thinking Dio is Weird Al

Wrong Generationers might have an argument, but they always present it in the stupidest fucking ways.

>"pop music takes no skill"
>loves nirvana, a band that prided itself on how shitty they were live

>>50497686
>so incorrect. ACDC the most simplistic songs possible, Gaga can actually sing
What the fuck you're not even trolling how can you be this retarded

>>50497674
you shouldn't make music for money anyway, you should do it because you love making music.
also most dadrock bands were commercial-ass fuccbois

>>50497674
Money isn't everything, Anon.

The camera man deeeeefinitely has Parkinson's

>"Brainwashed" into liking Pop, no evidence as to why

Aw man the cool thing about this horseshit is that music theorists figured out a fucklong time ago that there are certain rhythmic properties and chord progressions that are insanely popular with both musicians and casual listeners

The coolest shit though is that his huge boner for dadrock can be explain scientifically as well

>>50497674
>There needs to be a free market exchange for something to be valid
This is what libertarians get for subscribing to memepolitics.

>>50497524
Go to bed dad

>yfw /pol/ had a better discussion about pop music just today than this shithole board
>fucking
>/pol/

just pathetic man

>>50497712
>>50497727
>you shouldn't make music for money anyway, you should do it because you love making music.
This is admirable and I would fully agree if we were living in an idyllic, socialist/communist world.
However, we live in a Free Market system where there is an exchange for a person's talent, a person's labor.
As for
>also most dadrock bands were commercial-ass fuccbois
You're totally correct, but I'm not addressing that point.
>>50497733
There's nothing wrong with Libertarianism except for the "bandwagoners" who are the same as every political bandwagoner.

>>50497732
I think people that cling to dadrock can be said to be brainwashed too, so his argument can apply back to him as well.

i am 2 years old and i hate pop music!

>>50497135
shades of

>>50497774
*tips upvote*

>>50497762
Could you link the archive of the thread?

>>50497771

Yeah that's what I meant, I just fucked up in the last part

>>50497692
Nirvana a shit m8 .

>>50497762
>yfw
>no reaction image
>thinking /pol/ can have a discussion about anything
>going to /pol/
noose urself

>>50497774
underage b&

>>50497733
He wasn't talking about it at an artistic level.

>>50497686
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7PjyTsfOxI
The Dead Milkmen - Instant Club Hit (You'll Dance To Anything)

>music with a synthesizer can't be good

>>50497764
You can have a job at a grocery store or something and make music in your spare time, you don't have to rely on it for income

>>50497712
>>50497727

No, that's horseshit.

Making music is expensive and time consuming. You wouldn't go to the doctor's office and expect him to work with you free of charge out of the goodness of his heart.

Making listenable music consistently requires years of practice and dedication. On top of that it costs time and money to make an album. For many people making music is a labor of love, but that still doesn't mean they shouldn't be compensated for it as it is an activity that involves a high level of skill.

>>50497597
>non-Coltrane, Davis, the list goes on Jazz is ignored
Davis and Coltrane truly are the greatest at what they do, though.

>>50497771
I could see it being argued that in someways they're even more indoctrinated, as even if they don't pay as much attention to it as they should, pop music listeners' tastes evolve ever so much as pop does. Dadrockers are clinging to music two generations past.

>>50497764
Selling albums is a shitty market regardless, there's literally no reason for me to feel compelled to buy albums outside of cover art, at least merch and concerts have value, albums is simply some easily reproducible files in a disk of sorts, fucking shit tier commodities.

>>50497674
>If you pirate an album, you are effecting placing its value as $0.

You bringing down it's monetary value, yes. But that should be irrelevant to the musician; he/she should be making music because it's what they love to do, not because they can make money.

>As a result, they are much more likely to dump an album they are not rabidly in love with. It promotes a casual tossing aside of various albums and projects as not worth any money.

So what? That just means record companies are encouraged to put out more engaging and unique material; because now, they can't profit off of homogeneous shit quite as easily as they used to.

>rekt

>>50497764
>There's nothing wrong with Libertarianism
Except for the fact that it has no basis in the real world and is a marketing technique that panders to social outcasts and NEETs who are willing to blame all of their problems on big government at the drop of a hat.

>AC/DC
>Good, Creative music
Haha, this is satire right?

>>50497865
Your entire argument relies on piracy being some new thing. Music piracy was not introduced in the 00s so your entire argument could apply to in the past too. And if you're dedicated enough to making music you'll make music regardless. It's happened in the past and it continues to happen.

Is he the king of /mu/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foNKLggQ7E4

>>50497912
The first wide spread bootleg was a bootleg of The Basement Tapes, "The Great White Wonder" from as early as 67.

>>50497918
the recommended videos.

When do you think the first person in history made money/gained something in exchange for music?

>>50497850
You *can* but that would effectively say that the artist doesn't feel that their time, labor, and various costs that go into making records (recording space, mastering, etc.) are valueless; which, while not unheard of, is still incredibly rare.
>>50497880
It may be, but that does not override the artists' decision.
>>50497893
>he/she should be making music because it's what they love to do, not because they can make money.
Why can't it be both? Certainly the former is and *should* be the priority, but that's like insinuating a doctor should work pro deo for every patient.
Again, technically not unheard of but incredibly rare.
>>50497903
It's less of blaming big government for me, and more for acknowledging individual responsibility.

>>50497912
Maybe piracy has been around for a long time, but you can't deny that with the internet it has increased exponentially. Of course it has, it's so easy now.

I agree that people will continue to make music, but I think it's a shame that recorded music so devalued in our society right now.

>>50497903
>There's nothing wrong with Communism
Except for the fact that it has no basis in the real world and is a dick eating technique that panders to social outcasts and NEETs who are willing to blame all of their problems on the system at the drop of a hat.

>>50497865
>what are garage bands
>what is indie
You don't have to hire Rick Rubin or Brian Eno to do the production. There have always been independent artists making music on their own with a shoestring budget

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNpNiIyJaYk
The Beatles - Dear Prudence Acoustic - Esher Demo

>>50497817
>>50497692

Nirvana were good songwriters, and it's pretty obvious if you've ever tried to write your own stuff

I could see thinking they're overrated, but they're not bad.

Also, this dude's appreciation for Nirvana is probably pretty shallow (i.e. "'cuz it's GOOD, fgt lol")

>>50498004
>hiring brian eno to produce your record

>>50497984
>but I think it's a shame that recorded music so devalued in our society right now.
I think its terrific that music is so accessible to people now.

Recorded music is a recent thing, and i think in 100 years, people will wonder why anybody ever paid for it.

>>50497979
>Again, technically not unheard of but incredibly rare.

Considering how cheap it's become to record and release an album independently I don't think it's all that rare; I think we're going to see it happening more and more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzw0ww7jap4
The Beatles - Child Of Nature - Esher Demo

His list of good bands is pretty spot on.

Once again, Buckley is right about everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9sRyBMjtjo

>>50497135
>b-roll of kids clearly in the editing lab or whatever at your high school wearing headphones to monitor what they're editing

ahhhh. takes me back to my high school video production class

>>50498027
Eno produces for Coldplay and probably other people
>>50497979
>equating being a doctor to making music
not the same thing at all, you don't need to go to expensive-ass prestigious universities and be a genius to start a band

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kStyPurc1pI
John Lennon - India - Demo

>>50498056
>Buckley
>right about anything
>ever

>>50498052
>that list

>>50498052
But those are all terrible bands.

Is it possible that he might be wrong about music?

>>50498052
>tfw every single josh homme project

b-but i like josh homme

>>50498052
>all that shit
>all that the ____
please end my life

>>50498036
This. Rewind to the classical era and only noblemen could hear symphonies performed. Now anyone can access nearly any piece of music ever recorded on the internet. That's some crazy stuff.

>>50498027
>implying Brian Eno isn't a great producer

>>50498052
>weezer
>smashing pumpkins
>porcupine tree
>beatles
>doors
>REM
>qotsa
>kyuss
>neutral milk hotel
>nirvana
>sabbath
>beck

nice list/10

>>50498038
>I think we're going to see it happening more and more.
This is simply because of piracy, though. Selling albums digitally for fixed prices is becoming less viable.
>>50498069
You don't *have* to be but equally so, a reasoned listener can determine that bands of such "guerilla" or "basic" nature aren't worth their money and simply decline to purchase them.

>>50498104
D

>>50498118
nmh is not on that list m8

>>50498052
>alphabetical list
>sorts solo artists by first name
>puts everything starting with "The" in the Ts
I didn't care about this before but seriously fuck this kid

>>50498052
>Stephen Wolf
>not Steppenwolf

>>50497135
who cares what a high school kid thinks about music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmbaWtQoLM0
Pete Townshend - Teenage Wasteland - Demo

>>50498144
yeah but slint is

>>50497135

What the fuck is his point here???

Music has been "all about the money" for 100 years now !!! This is not some new revelation.

Plebs will always lap up garbage music and they always have. Fucking hell open your eyes retard.

Someone save this video

It only has 1000 views, now that /mu/ has a ahold of it he might freak out and take down

>>50497998
>Implying I'm any sort of communist.
Is this evidence that libertarians jump to absurd conclusions because they're insecure?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh4wkMZXONc
Pete Townshend - Baba O' Riley - Demo

>>50498177
>criticizing a high schooler on a chinese cartoon forum about music

he's a fucking teenager

>>50498175
I thought this was a joke, but I had to check again just to be sure. I am officially never listening to Slint again.

>>50498140
I'm of the mind that independent bands are better, because they don't view it as a business

>>50498231
flint isn't on there though

>>50498231
>>50498175
Don't do a thing you fuckers.

>>50498052
someone turn this into the official 2014 /mu/ essentials

>>50498207
You pointed out the economical fallacies of libertarianism, which would mean you aren't any sort of conservative, so I just went with something on the left side of economics. I'm not even a libertarian and I was just making the point that you could say the same thing about any political Ideology. Is this evidence that commies jump to absurd conclusions because they're insecure?

>>50498253
It's not viewing it as a business but as a way of supporting the further production of your art.
A band with $0 can't afford to transport gear for tours, or afford to hire session musicians.

>>50498052
>foo fighters
>black keys
>wolfmother

>>50498056
>>50497135
someone suggest me some autistic rant videos like these

>>50498395
Make a video of yourself discussing your favorite albums

>>50498325
Bands these days still get to be pretty successful despite piracy so obviously the way things are isn't causing too much of an issue. The whole issue about piracy is thinking of it as lost sales and looking at the piracy numbers rather than the number of purchases. People do buy music, it's not like 100% of people pirate every single thing. The difference is that most bands these days don't get to millionaire status through making music, other than the people that make shit they play on top 40 generally. There are lots of bands these days enjoying pretty decent success in spite of piracy being easy.

Piracy doesn't matter, musicians these days make their money off concert sales

>>50498448
totally epic. :^) I'd rather watch yours, friend

>>50497135
the dude basically like rock
music that was POPular before

>one of the related videos
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi9XvwPDaMA
I think this might be even more cringe worthy

>>50498456
This >>50498458 too. Artists generally make such small amounts of money off of record sales, even if they sold a shitload of albums they still most likely wouldn't be making all that much money.

>>50498325
Like I said earlier, you can work another job. At the end of the day, if you're passionate about it you can make music.

>>50498456
Perhaps, but I still see it as symptomatic of a decreasing value for the work that goes into an album and the artistic results.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

>>50498474
im flattered

>>50497395
music is by definition not commodity.

>>50498498
And as I *responded*:
>You *can* but that would effectively say that the artist doesn't feel that their time, labor, and various costs that go into making records (recording space, mastering, etc.) are valueless; which, while not unheard of, is still incredibly rare.

>>50498140
>Selling albums digitally for fixed prices is becoming less viable.

So what? Record companies have been compensating for that by having artists go on tour more often.

>>50497135
lmao trying to get plebs to tell him who the lead singer of ACDC is, like its some important artist

>>50498518
>responding to the original post instead of following the debate
Read the chain.

>>50498309
Again, I'm not a communist, it's pretty obvious that libertarian/ancap policies have no basis in the real world. De-regulating everything and creating what is essentially a new government that functions off of profit is nonsensical, not to mention that it's failed as much as communism has.

>>50497466
I have made play lists of pop music since 1946 - 2014 on youtube for each year. on average each playlist is around 100 - 120 songs. I used the cashbox, billboard charts and UK charts. It took forever. I found I enjoyed the 1980's the most but a shit load of songs were released then.

I could post them on here but would mu be interested?

>you will never be born in the right generation

>arena bands doing exactly what pop musicians do with computers but with instruments r better!!!
>muh pink floyd

>>50498533
But why should they have to?

>scroll down to make sure we're still talking about how OP vid has to be a parody, because no one is that retarded.

>Again, I'm not a communist, it's pretty obvious that libertarian/ancap policies have no basis in the real world. De-regulating everything and creating what is essentially a new government that functions off of profit is nonsensical, not to mention that it's failed as much as communism has.

What the fuck happened.

>>50497135
>tfw pop music has been overwhelmingly popular
>tfw you dont know many young people who listen to a whole song ever, much less pink floyd's the wall
>tfw autotune is the worst invention ever
>tfw scientists have proven these chords

>"here are bands you should listen to because they don't suck"
>most bands listed suck

Pop music always has dips and dives and bad years, even bad decades. We don't remember bad pop music from the past because it was bad, therefore this stuff won't be remembered. Idk why this guy is so mad. Also, does he seriously cite AC/DC in a discussion of pop music? They weren't pop music they were a rock band (a terrible one at that) but what do they have to do with pop music?

>>50498614
Pink Floyd are actually pretty good though. If you're going to mock wrong generationers then bring up shit like AC/DC instead.

>>50498645
>tfw scientists have proven these chords
wait was this in the video?

i know the youtube screencap meme is played out, but the best one of these i ever saw was on a mozart video, some kid posted a comment saying "skrillex makes music with programming, mozart made music with instructments" (top comment) and the other top comment was "you spelled instruement wrong"

i wish i still had it saved

>>50498609
yea actually, Id like to see that

>>50498630
Because of the way that the music industry has changed since the 80s and whatever. You either adjust to what happens or you go under. You're never going to stop piracy.

>>50498527
hold on real quick what do the asterisks signify because i see people use them but i don't know why

>>50497135
He might be the only person I'd ever recommend the /mu/core chart to.

>>50498708
4:55

>>50498771
That guy's using them for emphasis but in the shitposting sense they're used for *action*.

>>50498666
>posts about AC/DC
>trips a 666

>>50498755
I suppose you can't stop it, but that doesn't stop people from noting its harmful effects.
>>50498771
Emphasis.
>>50498791
IDK I often find without asterisks I can't convey what I'm thinking.

>>50498830
Is its effects harmful if the industry is able to adjust to its effects to still keep making money? It's just different. I'm not saying piracy is a good thing but it exists and as it is it isn't keeping artists from making money.

LE WRONG GENERATION WAIFU activated

>music has declined so much since 2005

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dKn0dkIXqo

>"if i wanted to be a dubstep artist all i'd have to do is *makes fart noise*"

:3 :3 :3 :3

>>50498784
what the fuck those aren't even the right 4 chords
what an idiot

>>50497460

>liking something from a different generation automatically makes you a meme

4chan has a minimum age of 18

>>50498885

omg her imitation of shooting herself is so fucking cute

http://youtu.be/2dKn0dkIXqo?t=2m50s

>giving specific chords from keys
>not giving proper roman numerals for each of the chords
he's just as fucking bad as the pop musicians

>>50498091
dont worry anon, some of the bands on that list are good

>valuing Brian Johnson
>enjoying Steve Vai
>terrible subjective opinions with no facts behind anything
>not realizing AC/DC has less musical variety than any pop artist
>not realizing nearly every genre past and present has utilized synthesizers at some point
>hating on SexyBack
>that list of post-grunge cookie cutter groups that are just as derivative and mindless as pop

I also dislike pop music, but jeeeeeeeeeeez

>caring about entertainment that you don't like

in 2014 where everything is available 24/7, why do people spend so much time focusing on entertainment they don't like?

>>50498899
>doubting the scientists

>>50498968
the chords are all wrong too

it's Bmin and a D (not flat)

>>50497555
TRIPS and hilarious

Much underrated post.

>>50498630
Because the industry has changed. Artists have always been contractually obligated to record a certain number of albums exclusively for a specific label when they get a record deal, how is being contractually obligated to tour any different?

>>50499026
>everything is available 24/7

if that were true I would have a gf ;_;

All the dadrock bands he loves were signed to major labels too lel

>>50499026
Drugs

>>50498885
fucking 2012 /mu/

>>50497918
G A R B A G E
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>MFW he is right
why live /mu/ when my bedroom compositions will never been heard?

>>50497918
confirmation

>>50499182
Oh boy I gotta see the one from coverkillnation

>>50497918
>all music is know is people whining about their girlfriend
people have been doing this shit since music fucking started

fucking beethoven did this shit with fur elise

1940s 2923
1950s 4083
1960s 6887
1970s 5345
1980s 4166
1990s 3472
2000s 3428
2010s 1803 so far (as of 2013)

This is the number of songs released into the charts per decade, what do you think this shows us?

>>50499358
it tells us music is dying :(((

>>50499358
That's weird that the number peaked in the 60s and has been going down since then.

time to post this on /r/lewronggeneration for karma

>>50499412

http://www.reddit.com/r/lewronggeneration/comments/2ipyn0/why_pop_music_sucks_today_the_documentary/

>>50499412
please stay there

>>50498052
burning my beck collection brb

>>50497135
>and dubstep, dubstep sucks

>>50499358
it shows varied creativity and no one knowing what they were doing in the 60s
they finally discovered the perfect formula in the past 3 decades

>>50499358
>This is the number of songs released into the charts per decade

What does this mean?

Serious question

The number of songs that made the top 200?

>>50497692
>Wrong Generationers might have an argument, but they always present it in the stupidest fucking ways.

You know, thats actually a great way to put it - and this is coming from someone who admits to loving pop radio

>>50499358
Here is per year breakdown of the graph.
I only have up to last year from billboard.

>>50499489
Yes, Singles that were released into the Billboard charts and got to at least 100. This doesn't count any of the songs that did not chart.

>>50499468
I remember reading somewhere that labels were signing any groups with long hair to jump on the haight-ashbury bandwagon. I would hazard a guess that a majority of those singles were in 68 and 69, just after the peak of the hippies.

>>50499586
>released into the billboard charts

What does this mean?

If say, Sun Kil Moon puts out a song, is it not eliglable for Billboard?

>>50499615

sun kil moon was actually in interview

>>50499393
>>50499358
>>50499553
>>50499591
If anything, this just shows a difference in tastes during that time.
If you think about it, the old folks wanted their country artists, black folks wanted their motown and stacks, then young kids either wanted folk heroes, rock stars, or poets. Then there's the inoffensive pop music of the beatles and the monkees on top of that. This just shows that the music enjoying spectrum was very diverse if anything

>>50499615
If a song is popular enough, it will appear on the Billboard chart. Billboard themselves gather data about what songs are popular by heaps of factors: airplay, sales, digital streaming etc.

There are indie / alt charts by billboard but there is still a threshold to make those charts, set by billboard. Unfortunately I don't have much info about the indie charts.

>>50499829

Oh alright, thank you anon

>>50499553
2000 - 2006 had the least amount of songs. Was this good or bad? Did they find a sweet spot? or was it because music was terrible?

>>50497460
No, Hendrix was actually a great musician.

>>50498150

>>50497460
No, you're just a retarded faggot.

>>50497135
that high school teacher in the first minute of the documentary...
>making music free turns it into a commodity
wut

>>50497395
It was always a commodity though, it's not like music was prohibitively expensive either. Old fart is just jelostone he didn't have access to massive libraries when he was a kid.

>>50500013
are you doubting pink floyd in the background teacher man

bet you havent ever listened to a full song fag much less a full concept album
lol i'll list you some masterpiece concept albums so you can listen to music that doesnt suck
>Pink Floyd - The Wall
>Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
>Pink Floyd - Animals
>Pink Floyd - The Wall
>Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
>Pink Floyd - The Wall

>>50498885
gosh she's so cute i just want to cum on her face.

>>50498052
>audioslaves
kek

>>50497712
What if you love making music, but you want to get some cash out of it as well?

>>50500238
Then you tour. That's actually how record companies have been handling music piracy - more tours.

>>50500232
>you will never shoot a load in her braces
Why even live

>>50500282
I see where you're coming from. I just wish my band actually had some fans so that we could play some shows.

>>50499967
This is actually impossible

I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too.

>>50500371
You fail.
No autism for you.

>>50500371
or are we all autistic

>>50500238
what the other dude said, you play shows. incidentally, that's how you get known too. if you don't, people aren't even going to pirate your shit.

How can anyone say that music sucks today when these days you have access to unlimited amounts of content and can surely find something you like?

>>50500394
>>50500400
Oh, I thought that taking the time to check if it's solvable made me "autistic".

"Pop music is influenced by the record labels more than the artist to make a big pile of money"

The only thing said in that video thats even remotely true.

>>50498052
I don't even know how these people miss the actual groundbreaking acts like Frank Zappa or The Residents, it's always the same shit, aren't they super-invested into quality music from the 60s-90s? There's more out there than fucking The Wall holy shit.

>>50500364
You probably already do open mic nights, but if you don't, start. And after that network the shit out of your crowds. When you're done with a set, talk to everyone. Eventually you'll meet someone who'll pay you to play. Do that at all of your gigs.

But take all of that with a grain of salt. I'm not a successful musician.

>>50498885
>I like Adele
lmao

>>50500495
Here is a sample autistic result.

>>50500564
I'm slightly stupid, because I don't even know what to talk to the crowd about. Tips? I can hold a conversation, but I'm just not sure how to approach it.

>>50500606
that's wrong tho

>>50500621
What's up man? How'd you like the show? is a good start.

>>50500606
Autism = obsesively tries to finish this impossible puzzle
No autism = leaves it alone

>>50500647
You're right.

>>50500716
damn i have autism

>>50500693
Yes.

>>50497135
All pop music sucks.
>>50497597
Jazz is fucking awful.

>>50497848
It can't be good.

>>50498069
>you don't need to go to expensive-ass prestigious universities and be a genius to start a band
The only listenable music is made by highly educated musical geniuses.

>>50500371
Nope

>>50500995
STOP

>>50498198
T H I S
H
I
S

>>50500979
>being this elitist
this better be b8

>>50501339
>WAAAAH MUSIC SHOULD BE MADE BY UNEDUCATED IDIOTS BECAUSE IM ONE TOO

>>50497817
you're a shit

>>50500371
It's impossible because the doors on the rooms at the top are not even, so one is always left out and you can't enter without exiting.

>>50501373
Who are you quoting?

>>50501373
>2014
>still valuing education
education is literally society's way of tellling you how to act and what to think. you're a shill m8

>>50501373
>>50501421
whom

>>50501496
3edgy5me

>>50498885
i find her opinion a lot more palatable than the guy in the op because she's attractive
and kinda has a better arguement but mostly is attractive

not only are libertarians awful oblivious people but they have shit music taste too? no way

>>50501496
This is what mindless subhumans actually believe.

>>50498052
>The Creedence Clearwater Revival
>fuckin' The
how am I supposed to take his recommendation seriously when he can't even get the name right

>>50497135

>Computerized Beats

kek

>>50499182
he looks a lot like a fat middle school version of Fantano

>>50497135
the moral of the video is that you should never, ever take metal seriously

>>50497135
>muh metul
>muh rawk

>>50500845
>Jazz
>awful
>ever

faggot please

can someone post in that video the copy pasta of thefactthat of scaruffi??? thx

>>50499182
>dat peter sotos and fantano videos on recomendations

>>50497135
>Why pop music sucks today

>today
>IMPLYING

urr durr, playing black sabbath, pink floyd, bob dylan, led zeppelin a extreme amount of times per week is better than playing nickelback, britney spears, miley cirus, kayne west a extreme amount of times per week


NO ITS NOT

its the fucking same thing, its just fucking few things from a extremely large group of things being repeated over and over.

>>50497466
Late 50s and early 60s was actually the worst era of pop. Charts got dominated by formulaic do-wop and novelty joke songs.

>>50497135
I like how the song they picked for bad, overly synthetic modern music was an 80's throwback with a sax solo by a member of the E-Street Band.

Music died on 50s

>>50503883
Can't accept that your dance music is for children?
>>50507085
20s, actually.

Please attack this fucker

>>50497393
that affleck show was the worst

>>50497460
No MC Ride basically doesnt site influences and has autism

oh my god this was awful

>>50497135
stupid metalfag

>>50500871
xiuxiu

>>50497135
I LIKED WHEN STEVE VAI THE BEST GUITARIST OF THE WORLD MADE THE NOT JOKE SO FUNNY

>>50508216
My point

>>50497135
>d flat

holy shit so many terrible arguments
>implying pink floyd never used synthesizers
>implying age has a direct relationship with quality
>implying that's even a fucking Db

I cannot believe I was one of those fags once
>tfw I was one of those fags once

>>50497582
Different person, but what the guy meant is that music is becoming more trivial with it being so readily available, and I can agree with that

I can smell the dead body of 4chan and it has reddit's finger prints all over it.
ITT: Reddit

>>50497135
>meme rap
What the fuck do you categories as meme rap?
>pop music
>implying anyone here listens to mainstream radio music
Stop being new and lurk more.

>>50497674
https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm

>supporting the idea of 'artistic integrity' and value in the post-Marxist age

>>50498630
>why should they have to

Because a musician isn't about spreading modern alienation by perpetuating sterile recorded music but its about the humanness of the experience. Contrary to your belief the concert is what reinforces artistic integrity and artistic value, not the recording.

>>50497135
It actually makes me feel good to think that all the "le wrong generation" faggots are as autistic as this guy.

>>50500384
Interesting that it's mostly young idiotic kids that feel they are part of le wrong generation.

>>50497959
>Top comment is Fantano

>>50498052
>tfw no Mastodon
someone turn this into /mu/ essentials pls

>>50499095
:(

>>50497135
Wow though. This caused me physical pain

>>50497705
Every AC/DC song ever

DUN DUN DUN - rest rest rest - DUN DUN DUN - rest rest rest - DUN DUN DUN - rest rest rest - AWWWWWLLLLLRRRRIIIIGGGHHHTTTTAAAAA - rest rest rest - (shit solo) DUN DUN DUN - rest rest rest - DUN! THANK YOU GODNIGHT

>>50498052
>Today's music is terrible
>They don't use real instruments anymore
>They use something called the synthesizer

>Somehow Muse ends up in his list

>>50509211
>thinks synths aren't instruments
kek these people are something else.

>>50497135

He does realise that rock guitarists like Pete Townsend and Eddie Van Halen had a large hand in the popularity of the synthesizer in the first place right ???

Fucking loads of the bands he listed use/used synths.

Steve Vai uses loads of fucking synths, wtf is this guy even talking about

>>50497135
This is so fucking subjectional and biased it hurts to watch.

>muh white metal and rock is goat

>>50508293
I swear to god I started the "wrong generation" shit. I was the first one who I ever saw post it on youtube.

>>50509232
these are people who think anything electronic somehow makes itself and requires no skills or knowledge.

>>50498052
Fuck I like some of these now I an never listen to them again.

I dont want to be a pleb

>>50500238
then you have to be able to find a way to do it. you don't get cash for something just because you want it.

>>50500384
Fuck you I'll never get old!

But no really I'm interested to see how things change in the years to come and how the new generation of adults will be. Everyone will know the internet so will it really happen to me?

>>50497135
>that teacher fuckboi insulting based Criss Cross

>>50498052
>like basically every single one of those bands
Brb imma end ma life noi

>>50497524
It's funny because Lady Gaga is way more talented than AC/DC

>>50497610
underbaked toast

>>50506993
This

>>50498052
Sorry Beck, I love you but you're on the pleb list now so I can't love you anymore

>>50498056
I'm about 2 minutes into this, and holy shit the pretentiousness is palpable

>>50498610
>yfw nobody have or ever will be born in the 'right' generation

The majority of what's popular in music has always been shit, with the exception of a period during the late 60s where maybe about half of it was actually good. It's just that we usually forget about that bad stuff and only remember the good stuff. But just even look at any random number one song from the 70s and it probably sucked. And like someone mentioned in this thread, the 50s and early 60s were especially bad, maybe even moreso than today's

>>50497135
Oh god the ending

Thanks for the ride OP

Im sure most of you went through a wrong generation fad when you were his age.

>>50500845
Exactly how many threads a day do you shitpost the EXACT SAME material in?

>>50497135
>the music industry started to gain importance in the 90s and 2000s
How can people be so ignorant?
Were the 80s really over 75 years ago?

>>50512472
I have yet to listen to a pink floydd song in full, let alone a complete album

Why even bother listening to so outdated music, really? In a purely sonical sense, they can offer me absolutely nothing in 2014.

>>50512540
>anything interesting
Same goes for all of dadrock. Even Jimi Hendrix, whose talents i can clearly acknowledge and that 1 song with neat violins from The velvet underground.

>inb4 muh guitar solos

>>50512472
yeah, when i was like 11

he's too old to be doing this shit

>>50498395
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlv9-X3owjk&list=UUWa4jOWTwaAj9fbbEGB493w
Have fun.

>>50512584
Well i fucked this up. Same goes for all of dadrock except that 1 song.

>>50498052

>no The Smiths

>>50512584
That's viola, you fucking plebeian.

>>50508637
essential born in the wrong generation-core

>>50498052
>The Creedence Clearwater Revival
Please, no. dadrockers and wronggenerationists left CCR pretty much untouched.
That band is too good to be soiled by these plebs.

>>50497135

you can tell he is a nirvana fan by his checkered shirt and long hair

Muh dadrok is much better than all this dumb slut and nigger music

>>50512672
Sorry, thanks for letting me know. That is still a timeless 'tune' though. And i wouldn't doubt for a second calling it the only one they ever had.

>>50512740
I have no idea whether you're talking about Lady Godiva's Operation, Heroin, or Venus in Furs, because they all utilize a viola drone and they're all universally regarded as fantastic.

>>50512794
>forgetting the Black Angel's Death Song.

>>50497135
>He dissed Edge of Glory, the best song on Born This Way
he must kill himself

>>50512794
>>50512817
I'm talking about the most popular one

Honestly though, that's the only song where everything comes together perfectly. Where a few simple chords and basic drums create such an effective sound together. What would be unbearably dull on it's own becomes absolutely genius by being accompanied with such a brilliant drone.
Elsewhere the viola's subdued. Or is being taken out of focus for a moment when the ever-so-boring drums and guitars take over the the overall mood of the song.

Probably sound clueless at this point, but i kinda mean that the song i like by them is the one that has the least characteristics of "dadrock" in it.

Yeah i sound like a complete tool. That one viola (can you really call it a drone though?) still sounds timeless though. And, most clearly on Heroin and Venus in Furs, the viola sounds marginally better than any other element in their usual dadrock sound.

You can laugh at me now

>>50513179
You sound like a retard

>>50513366
i know, i'm sorry.
Shit band nonetheless

No idea Cale collaborated with people like drake, eno, cage and such. Should get into him instead

>>50498141

no

>>50513179
>the Velvet Underground
>"usual dadrock sound"

I don't know if you sound like a complete tool, but the Velvets had such a ridiculous range that you sound like you don't know what you're talking about when you say they had a "usual dadrock sound". Do you mean because it has guitars in it? Because the studio output of TVU is some of the least "dadrock" music that came out of that period.

I'm not trying to sound condescending here, but have you listened to their first three albums?