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>people still call /mu/ a hipster board
Damn it /mu/ I'm tired of this shit. We listen to Kanye West, The Beatles, Mozart, Beethoven, Talking Heads and so much more here. How the fuck are we hipsters?

>> No.50428849

>>50428803
Kanye West is the most overhyped artist of the century that only 'music hipsters' care about, a nigger with a god complex rapping over someone else's beats isn't original nor complex or deep, when you discuss and openly admit to like Kanye West's music unironically, you become a hipster

>> No.50428867

what?

>> No.50428928

Talking Heads are pretty hip, bro.

Anything art-rock will be always and forever, no matter how mainstream it gets. Just look at Yeah Yeah Yeahs and TV on the Radio.

>> No.50428931

This post is pretty try-hard hipster, saying you listen to Kanye West as well as Mozart, when you only listen to classical so you can say you did and sound smart

>> No.50428959

>>50428803
>implying Talking Heads are just as accessible as Beatles

>> No.50428970

because we still to look as contrarian as possible

>> No.50428975

>>50428803
/mu/ is the most misunderstood board on 4chan

>> No.50428979
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50428979

>Kanye West, The Beatles, Mozart, Beethoven, Talking Heads
>implying I listen to any of that pleb trash

>> No.50428992

>implying Talking Heads, The Beatles and Kanye aren't popular among hipsters

>> No.50428993

>>50428970
try*

>> No.50429012

>>50428959
They are. Psycho Killer is accessible as fuck.
>>50428931
I never said I listened to either of them. /mu/ likes them so I put them there.
>>50428970
I guess so but still.
>>50428928
Art rock isn't a real term. Neither is art music.
>>50428849
I agree that he is the most overhyped artist of the century except he's probably the most overhyped artist of all time.

>> No.50429035

>>50428992
They're also popular among non-hipsters so they can't be popular among hipsters because hipsters don't like popular music.

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>>50429012
say that to my face fuccboi

>> No.50429067

>>50429035
All three of those bands are in the safe zone for hipsters, just like Johnny Cash, Hank Wiliams and Willie Nelson are in the safe zone for people who listen to everything but country and rap.

>> No.50429095

>>50429067
Then who else is in this so called "safe zone"?
>>50428975
Agreed.

>> No.50429157

>>50428931
This.

Also Kanye is pretty hipster and NMH, the literal emblem of this board, is pretty much the epitome of hipster trash.

>> No.50429171

>>50428849
>someone else's beats
All I needed to hear to know you don't know shit about Kanye or his music.

>> No.50429187

>>50429095
Bob Dylan, Tom Waits, idk, others.

>> No.50429228

>>50429095
miles davis, john coltrane, bill evans, for jazz.

>> No.50429241

Riddle me this: Why the fuck would you want to come to a music dedicated board on 4chan to talk about popular music you can go to any forum ever or speak to your little sister about?

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50429262

>>50429241
>Why the fuck would you want to come to 4chan

FTFY

>> No.50429276

>>50429262
yeah well, thats a whole other thread

>> No.50429294

>>50429187
>>50429228
So pretty much every popular, innovative or classic artist is in this "safe zone"? That's not very hipstery at all. Does hipster even have a solid definition?

>> No.50429318

>>50429294
On here, according to other boards.

''People who listen to artists they've never heard of and shun artists who are in the charts''

>> No.50429332

>>50429294
Not every "popular" artist. Kiss and AC/DC are far from the safe zone, so is Areosmith.

>> No.50429334

>>50429294
>Does hipster even have a solid definition?

No, but you know a hipster when you see one.

I live in Portland, Or.

>> No.50429339

>>50429318
But The Beatles were one of the biggest charting bands. Even Swans are a top 40 band. Also I think hipster is now just another term for "people who look deeper into whatever form of art they enjoy"

>> No.50429343

>>50429035
No, that's not how it works anymore. It's too pleb to say you DONT like popular stuff. Notice all the k-pop, kanye, taylor, and trap threads around here? Its like reverse-hipster is becoming a thing now, which kind of implies the music discussion on this board has always been more fashion statement than actual good stuff

>> No.50429356

>>50429339
Its just used mostly by visiting /b/tards and /v/irgins for people who hate on radio rock and Deadmauskrillex

>> No.50429381

>>50428803
id say when it comes to music taste at least being called a hipster is not really a bad thing, where the two choices are hipster or "normal music listener" surely hipster is the better of the two. its the rest of the world's "patrician" or "pleb"

most of the people in the world who dont really listen to music dont know who talking heads are other than psycho killer, they know kanye is an asshat from the grammies, mozart and beet are "wtf why are you listening to classical? youre such a dork anon hehe" and the beatles is "the greatest band of all time" so why even consider people's opinions of us at all?

>> No.50429395

>>50429343
>k-pop, taylor

They're just an excuse for waifu threads with periodical posts about music so the threads aren't deleted.

>> No.50429412

Swans...

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50429431

>>50428849
> that only 'music hipsters' care about
Yet every album he's released has gone to number 1.

> a nigger with a god complex
>accounting for an artist's personality whilst judging their art
SHIGGY
>rapping over someone else's beats
Lol ok then
>isn't original nor complex or deep
Not everything has to be complex, original or "deep" to be good
>when you discuss and openly admit to like Kanye West's music unironically, you become a hipster
So liking one of the biggest selling artists around is a sign of being part of a culture that is commonly identified for it's preference for the obscure?

>> No.50429459

>How the fuck are we hipsters?
Because we randomly chose a few popular acts to not accept under any circumstances. If something is obscure we'll give it a chance but if something is popular and not /mu/ approved we will meme it until it goes away.

>> No.50429504

normalfags = radio rock/pop/rap
/mu/drones = general essentials, p4k and fantano BNM
hipsters = hate on anything popular on principal
avant-teens = only listen to >5 listeners of EAI and 'world music' from RYM

>> No.50429520

Which is the most hipstery, 4chan, tumblr or reddit? Is there a fourth option?

>> No.50429533

>>50429520
None of those, more like small last.fm groups and select forums

>> No.50429545

Hipster isn't really about listening to obscure music. It's more about fashion and attitude.

>> No.50429593

Well, wannabe hipsters are told to come to /mu/, why don't you figure it out op?

>http://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Hipster
>ctrl + f /mu/

>> No.50429594

>>50428803
>We listen to Kanye West, The Beatles, Mozart, Beethoven, Talking Heads

and that's exactly why you are a hipster... the bands you named are entry lvl records. every idiots who spends 2 weeks getting into music knows about these...
and about kanye...srsly? get that shit out of here and stop riding dick... kanye's production, or what little he still does by himself, hasnt been any good for years. in fact if you ask me, he's only ever made really good beats for other people, not for himself.

>> No.50429607

>>50429594
>and that's exactly why you are a hipster...
>the bands you named are entry lvl records.
wut

>> No.50429671

>>50429545
well, originally, it was what youd call someone who liked the jazz scene when rock n roll was becoming mainstream back in the 50s, it has since evolved into something else entirely, because people in general are stupid and useless. i could go more into why but.. so many people are now doing the giant beard, flannel, curly mustache, fedora, glasses, chucks/work boots, indie "Im against the mainstream" thing that it is now mainstream to do so. when everyones a hipster, nobody is

>> No.50429815

>>50429607
hipster doesnt mean obscure for the sake of obscurity anymore

it's some kind of flannel checkered shirt skinny jean wearing, smart water drinking, "indie rock" and hip-hop listening, arts degree studying, vain 20 something

but thats just my perception, idfk

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50429851

This is what a hipster looks like.

>> No.50429899

>>50429851
not round here they don't. they wear their P.E. kit with neon strings and a backwards cap and a violent dog or something.

>> No.50429905

>>50429851
Hampus was an avant-teen

>> No.50429934

>>50429431
Why do kanye fans get butthurt so easy

>> No.50429970

>>50429671
pretty much any internet or netflix documentary . it sucks so hard, and i always want to talk shit, but i think even saying the word hipster is fuckin stupid so i dont say anything.

>> No.50430495

>thinking hating the great artists is cool.

>> No.50430511

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iskjEgwj4uQ

>> No.50430532

>>50428803
because /mu/ sucks p4ks dick.

>> No.50430542
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50430542

It's probably just /v/ being butthurt when we call them out for listening to buttrock and other pleb shit

>> No.50430551

>>50428979
>The Beatles
>pleb trash

>> No.50430558

>>50430551
>calling the artistic effort of a person trash, ever

How disrespectful

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50430568

people still listen to The Beatles?

>> No.50430577

>>50429671
>giant beard, flannel, curly mustache, fedora, glasses, chucks/work boots

i love how this is how normalfags/r9k losers view hipsters even tho that shit hasn't been trendy since 2009

if some guy showed up dressed like that at like trädgården in stockholm (very trendy club) or something he would be laughed out of the room

>> No.50430578

>>50430568
The date music has been made does not define it's quality

>> No.50430603

>>50430578
Wrong, with pop music it matters.

>> No.50430613

>>50430603
No it's not.
The only thing that defines a quality of a song is how much you liked it

>> No.50430643

>>50430613
Nope. How often have you heard The Beatles played on major pop radio stations? Or even music that's over a year old? It's always recent stuff because popular music is only relevant to the time it was released.

>> No.50431574

>>50430643
Your logic is gold

>> No.50431656

>>50430643
But beatles moved from the major pop radio stations to all the other stations.Music on major pop radio stations today doesnt move anywhere, it just slowly dissapears

>> No.50431699

>>50429334

Yep. graduated from reed a few months ago and every other state i go to i see people calling each other hipsters, talking about hipsters, etc.

im like bitch please thats just some nigga in corduroy

>> No.50431764

>>50430578

>Nirvana

>> No.50431963

>>50428803
I love to be a hipster its so cool fuck normal boring people

>> No.50431968

>>50428803
>We listen to Kanye West, The Beatles, Mozart, Beethoven, Talking Heads and so much more here
Like do most hipsters

>> No.50433094

>>50430643
I heard a cover of With A Little Help From My Friends on the radio a few weeks ago

>> No.50433235

>>50428803
because most people are babies when it comes to music
for some reason the idea that music is entirely subjective, and any in depth analysis other than "it's good I like it/ It's bad I don't" is for pretentious assholes has gotten wildly popular among casual listeners, such that most attempts at music discussion with someone who isn't a particularly avid listener will invariably lead to them being super defensive and resorting to name calling, which is in part how the term hipster rose to the spot it has now
really it's all a result of the culture of ignorance many people feel towards art in general; that they don't want to examine it in anything other than the simplest terms because they have no idea what they're talking about, and have created a stigma against such thought due to their own insecurity
fuck this was all over the place but I hope you get what Im trying to say

>> No.50433349

What I find is that --in the real world-- knowing about even A SINGLE band that the person you are talking to hasn't heard of before automatically makes you a "hipster". As does going to any music festival that isn't Lollapalooza/Coachella/Bonnaroo.

You can't really win

>> No.50433366

Why can't people listen to what they like without being labeled for once?

>> No.50433371

>>50428979
Hipstrer

>> No.50433373

>>50428803
You forgot Radiohead.

>> No.50433382

>>50433235
This so much

Many of my friends are musicians/music students/just avid listeners and enjoy discussing music with me. But a few of them will always get extremely irritated when the topic comes up and "you either you like it or you don't" is their solid standpoint. Trying to explain that there is more to it and they would probably enjoy talking about it as much as I do if they took the time to notice that is a completely futile effort.

>> No.50433413

“Hipster” is a term co-opted for use as a meaningless pejorative in order to vaguely call someone else’s authenticity into question and, by extension, claim authenticity for yourself.

It serves no conversational function and imparts no information, save for indicating the opinions and preferences of the speaker.

Meanwhile, a market myth has sprung up around the term, as well as a cultural bogeyman consisting of elusive white 20-somethings who wear certain clothes (but no one will agree on what), listen to certain music (no one can agree on this either), and act a certain way (you’ve probably sensed the pattern on your own).

You can’t define what “that kind of behavior or fashion or lifestyle” actually is, nor will you ever be able to. That’s because you don’t use “hipster” to describe an actual group of people, but to describe a fictional stereotype that is an outlet for literally anything that annoys you.

The twist, of course, is that if it weren’t for your own insecurities, nothing that a “hipster” could do or wear would ever affect you emotionally. But you are insecure about your own authenticity - “Do I wear what I wear because I want to? Do I listen to my music because I truly like it? I’m certainly not like those filthy hipsters!” - so you project those feelings.

Suffice it to say, no one self-identifies as a hipster; the term is always applied to an Other, to separate the authentic Us from the inauthentic, “ironic” Them.

tl;dr: if you believe hipsters exist, you are a plebeian.

>> No.50433474

We wouldn't b hipsters if we listened to more kayne west :^)

or more like KAYNE BEST
AMIRITE?!

>> No.50433500

>>50428979

>Beethoven
>pleb trash

Come on, being entry-level classical doesn't make him bad.

>> No.50433561

>>50433413
Low quality bait, but made me chuckle anyway.

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>> No.50433625

>>50428979
>>50430551
>>50433371
>>50433500
wow 3 replies thanks guys

>> No.50433759

>>50429171
that doesn't make it less shit you filthy pleb

>> No.50433849
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50433849

Because we like weird shit, apart from the poppy stuff that we also enjoy.

I used to care about people telling me I'm a hipster (I don't even look or behave like one), but now I make jokes when someone calls me that. Just listen to music and ignore name calling.

>> No.50433883

>>50429339
That's wrong though.

Hipster is a pejorative term, and it pretty much means the same as pretentious, people who affect their taste, and say they listen and appreciate things that are high taste, obscure and shun things which a low brow and mainstream. It doesn't really exist, at least I've not noticed it. Since hipster is a pejorative and not an actual demographic it's nonsensical to identify as a hipster, as it means admitting you are pretentious and don't have a self-informed taste. It's about as valid as calling yourself a dickhead.

I think what most people really mean when they say they are a hipster is that they are a muso, which is a term for someone with a deep interest in music, in a more artistic way, being interested in the mechanics of songwriting, recording and marketing as well as it's artistic and cultural value and seriously discussing them.

If anyone here was a real muso they would not be so reactionary to being called hipsters as they would realise that it says a lot less about themselves than it does the person making the accusation, as they are probably insecure about their interests and are projecting their ideas about music and art being a fashion statement and their taste being attached to their personality by thinking more along the lines of:
>I can't let people know I listen to Kanye West because they might call me names
instead of:
>I'm not bothered by what people perceive in my music taste, I am more interested in the art of music instead of seeing artists as brands.

>> No.50433897

>>50428803
>Kanye West
that's why

>> No.50433944

What the fuck even is a hipster anymore? There are so many fucking traits that classify a hipster that no matter who you are or what you do someone will probably call you a hipster for it at some point. Pointless to even have a discussion about it

>> No.50433980

I honestly think /mu/ is the best music board anywhere, even though it has its moments.

Came here with shit taste, now I actually understand and appreciate the music I listen to

>> No.50433983

>>50433944
see; >>50433883

You're right, it never really had a meaning though, it was always vague even back in 2009. It really is just semantics.

>> No.50434043

>>50433980
Be careful. It's still 4chan.
And if it was a joke, it's funny.

>> No.50434243

>>50428849
>someone else's beats

Stopped there

>> No.50434277

look at me i'm a tripfag

>> No.50434296

>>50429504
So where does /mu/ belong

>> No.50434342

>>50433413
This

>> No.50434453

>>50429171
>>50429431
>>50434243
Kanye West fans, everyone

>> No.50434466

>>50434453
You're not even going to attempt to argue their points, you're just going to passive-aggressively back off like that?

>> No.50434502

>>50434466
I don't listen to Kayne much, but to my understanding Kayne samples other songs a lot, so I'm assuming that's what anon's mad about.

>> No.50434729

I haven't listened to ITAOTS in at least 3 days. How can I be a hipster?

>> No.50436140

>>50428803
>We listen to Kanye West
Don't generalize, i don't listen to that garbage.

I thought most of it was ironic anyway

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