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Time for /classical/

Debate, discuss, recommend, ask questions and shit.

>> No.47391313

>>47391305

What a coincidence, I was just listening to
REJOICE IN THE LORD ALWAY

AND AGAIN I SAY REJOICE

>> No.47391320

Are these good for beginners?

http://www.classicalcdguide.com/main/intro.htm

http://www.getintoclassical.com/

>> No.47391409

>>47391320

>http://www.classicalcdguide.com/main/intro.htm

I was getting ready to click on these links and criticise them but that top 10 CD selection isn't too bad actually. Not as wide-ranging as it could be, but not the most predictable selections either. Particularly impressed by the inclusion of the Nelson Mass.

It falls to pieces in the 11-20 best CDs though

>Von Karajan Beethoven 9
>Goldberg Variations by Glenn Gould

And their early modern section is rather shit.

However on a whole, the recommendations don't look too bad. Be sure to look at all the periods of music they have recommendations for.

The second website doesn't look great

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>>47391320

Oh and here are the various resources /classical/ has.

http://pastebin.com/mCZk7xYj

>> No.47391453

>>47391409
>>47391441
Thanks, as I say, still a beginner so don't want to ignore even the most 'entry-level' composers/pieces, however predictable.

>> No.47391498

>>47391453

Yeah, those other websites are probably better for that. There's not much on CLT's chart that is the most popular work of a given composer. It's a useful chart, but it miss out the works of composers that (despite their "mainstream" popularity) you should probably listen to.

>> No.47391619

>>47391498
Alright cool, thanks for the help

>> No.47391641

>>47391409
>>Goldberg Variations by Glenn Gould

Are you saying Glenns good or is there better recording?

>> No.47391703

>>47391305
classical turkish music is better than your infidel european shit

>> No.47391715

>>47391641

The latter

>> No.47391727

>>47391715
gonna give me a hint to the better

>> No.47391771
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>>47391703

Meh, Bartok lite.

>> No.47391796

>>47391727

Try Perahia (or maybe Schiff) for piano or Hantai for harpischord.

Gould's isn't as bad as people on /classical/ make out, but neither is he the best.

>> No.47391818

>>47391796
thanks

>> No.47392132

>tfw your Vaughan Williams tagging session is almost over

>> No.47392173

I want to get into Bartok, I just haven't bothered checking his stuff out yet.

Any recs for newcomers to his work?

>> No.47392229

>>47392173

Cantata Profana, Violin Concerti (especially 2), Bluebeard's Castle, Concerto for Orchestra, Sonata for Solo violin, String Quartets (particularly 1+4), Romanian Folk Dances,

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>>47392173

>> No.47392340
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>>47392173

Concerto for Orchestra is a must:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATQIBolNstc

Music for Strings, Celeste and Percussion is pretty cool too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9LWHEf0VFo

Also check out Mikrokosmos as well as those >>47392229 suggested

All his string quartets are amazing, although some of the later ones can be very abrasive on first (or second) listen.
String Quartet No. 4 is one of my all time favorite quartets... brutal and very tight in its construction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtMWaaaWFQo

>> No.47392360

>>47391305
>Purcell

Fine choice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw7t0EkdrPU

>> No.47392383

>>47391313

Going to be recording that at the end of the month. It's a pity the rest of the CD is shitty, obscure English Baroque church music that didn't survive in modern repetoire for a reason

>> No.47392666

>>47392383
>shitty, obscure English Baroque church music that didn't survive in modern repetoire

They had the civil war, the commonwealth, the restoration, then the glorious revolution. It wasn't exactly a good time for musicians. The sacred music composed before 1642 seems to be of exceedingly high quality though.

>>47392360
We need to hype the 3 part fantasia on a ground to be the de facto wedding music and replace Pachelbel's three part canon on the same damned ground. The false relation in the first bar and the drag right at the end should keep the congregation on the edge of their seats.

>> No.47392973

>>47392229
>>47392257
>>47392340
Tyvm! :^)

Will probably st art with his string quartets. Ladies love string quartets. As for his later ones being abrasive, you don't have to worry about that :P

>> No.47393203

>>47392173

Start with Bluebeard's Castle. One of the best "small scale" operas ever composed

>> No.47393231

>>47391409
Who's the /mu/ approved conductor for the 9th then? Also what's wrong with Karajan on this particular one?

>> No.47393571

>>47393231

The recommended recording was taken from the Beethoven cycle Karajan did in 1962-3 (which is admittedly the best of Karajan's Beethoven cycles). It's quite clinical and every part is note perfect, however in terms of balance it leaves a fair bit to be desired. In the 9th for example, the brass and timpani don't come out at all in the finale of the 4th movement, even the the trombones are meant to be at fff.

The balance moves between either the upper strings and wind being excessively shrill and drowning out everything else or every single instrumental part being brought to the front of the texture, even if there's a specific instrument or section that has something of note that should be brought out of the general orchestral texture.

The main issue is the mechanical aspect to it. Considering Beethoven 9 is regarded by some as the herald of the Romantic era, you don't get much of that sense in Karajan's recordings. There's little of the passion and connection with the music you get with Furtwangler, Klemperer or Bohm

>> No.47394112 [DELETED] 

>>47393571
Furtwangler

>> No.47394140

>>47393231
Furtwangler

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daily reminder

>> No.47394178

>>47392173
Another great piece is the "Miraculous Mandarin"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYwegVm1q5w

>> No.47394299

>>47393571
That's a thorough answer, I appreciate it. Guess I've got to listen to the 9th twice back-to-back now for comparison against Furtwangler then the others after.

Who does /mu/ like for the other symphonies?

>> No.47394315

>>47394168
>arditti quartet
more like 2patrish4u

>> No.47394336

>>47394168
isn't that guy called lang lang

>> No.47394427

Are Pascal Roge's versions pf Claude Debussy's works alright? I know that Claudio Arrau's works are preffered but i couldn't find a link to get them.

>> No.47394444

>>47394336

No it's Wang Wang

>> No.47394637
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47394637

In light of yesterday's thread topic...

>> No.47394729

>>47394168
>2014 /classical/ babbies are so fucking clueless that they take this picture seriously

>> No.47395324

Hey /classical/, recommend me some early 18th century Italian keyboard music that's not by Scarlatti or Pasquini.

>> No.47395375
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47395375

>That moment when you remember your patrician aunty gave you a cd....

Martinů's Greek Passion... Moscow Chamber Choir, Weiner Symphoniker...

Wonder what I'm in for here... seems its an english version

>> No.47395430

>>47394168
Not that I think this is anything but idiotic but why are you considering these guys pleb?

>> No.47395574

>>47395324

Frescobaldi wrote some good stuff

http://youtu.be/-YZwnzz42tc

>> No.47395591

>>47395324
Giustini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGBrbb3pyMU
Giovanni Battista Martini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddeWuK2PL60
Galuppi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WlZN3qAQI
you might like Sweelinck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTb7Xu6ahv0
Alberti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpkwBVJ6siw

or any others from the "Chronological_list_of_Italian_classical_composers" wiki

>> No.47395594

>>47395574
Was thinking of something later than that, hence the
>early 18th century
part. But any recs of the Fiori Musicali are welcome as well.

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47395646

>>47395591
Meant to attach this pic.

Anna Bon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkXaPJeI5VE
What's a cute Italian girl doing on this list?

>> No.47395651

>>47395324
>>47395594

Whoops, misread the century

Seixas wasn't Italian, but is p. good

http://youtu.be/ieK5OZLqklU

>> No.47395656

>>47392340
10 easy piano pieces, son

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47395674

>>47391441
>pastebin
>full of youtube links and not download links
>mfw

>> No.47395714

>>47395674

It's so people can quickly browse stuff and figure out what they like and what they don't. If they like what they hear on youtube, they can come here to ask for download recommendations. There's no sense in someone downloading an album only to find they hate all of it

>> No.47395750

>>47395591
>Giovanni Battista Martini
Father "born in le wrong generation monk" Martini wrote keyboard music? Interesting.

>Sweelinck
Looking for something bit later than that, though that would be my response when someone claims that the last great Franco-Flemish was Lassus

I'll see what the other three, including the venerable Alberti.

>>47395646
Seems like a pain to click through each individual link to see if they composed any significant keyboard works, I was hoping that with some luck some anon specialising in turn of the century Italian keyboard music would give some personal recs, oh well. It just seems weird that there seem to be a lack of noteworthy southern keyboard music being produced at that time considering how well it's flourishing north of the alps.

>> No.47395765

>>47394299
>Who does /mu/ like for the other symphonies?
rené leibowitz' cycle is arguably the most consistent stereo recording of the nine.

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>>47395674
Finding the exact recording you want to download can sometime be a personal choice...
that Pastebin is mostly a sampler.

Speaking of which, new edition is complete:

http://pastebin.com/VjGmrPir

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>>47395591
>Giustini
>piano sonatas
>1733
whoa

>> No.47395934

>>47394299
>Who does /mu/ like for the other symphonies?

v. Dohnanyi on Telarc. Play them loud though!

>> No.47395995

>>47395794

Since when did Dr. Atomic get added?

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47396078

Holy shit what is this cover.

>> No.47396092

>>47395794

Also, you've listed a Bach Organ concerto as a Vivaldi work.

And as much as Rachmaninoff gets hate on here, not including his All-Night Vigil in the Russian vocal section is criminal

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47396201

>>47395765
Good goy

>> No.47396356
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47396356

>>47396201
are you questioning my jewishness

>> No.47396529
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>>47396356
i like his cycle too, but i find the 5th too rushed

>> No.47396588

>>47395591
Is that Alberti the guy Alberti bass is named after?

>> No.47396613

>>47396588
>Alberti's claim to historical recognition rests traditionally on his harpsichord sonatas, in which the arpeggiated bass that lent his name a posthumous notoriety is a prominent feature
yep

>> No.47396642

>>47396613
Okay, that's cool

>> No.47396730
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47396730

My local record store's classical section only has records of Benjamin Britten and Edward Elgar.
What are these composers best works?

>> No.47396784

Baroque music is best music. Prove me wrong.

Protip: you can't.

>> No.47396832

>>47395995
Its been there since the start!

>>47396092
Noted and added

>>47396613
Yes he is. Alberti bass.

>>47396784
I would happen to agree

>> No.47397094

How do you tag your music, lads?

>> No.47397118

>>47397094
computer

>> No.47397134

How you listen to classical? I must turn off everything and close my eyes or else I feel there's no point to it. I greatly dislike having music in the background while I'm working and stuff

>> No.47397150

>>47396730

Britten
>Billy Budd
>Peter Grimes
>Albert Herring
>War Requiem
>Suite on English Folk Tunes (A Time There Was)
>Les Illuminations
>On This Island
>Rejoice in the Lamb
>Hymn to St. Cecilia
>Hymn to the Virgin

Elgar
>The Dream of Gerontius
>The Kingdom
>Cello Concerto in E Minor
>Variations on an Original theme (Enigma)
>Symphony No. 2
>Pomp and Circumstance Marches (You've just got to have them I guess)
>Sea Pictures
>Violin Concerto in B Minor

I know Elgar also wrote a lot of church music, but since I haven't sung any of it recently, I can't remember what's good and what isn't.

>> No.47397170

>>47397150
are you a singer or something

>> No.47397261

>>47397170

Well Britten's best stuff was written for work with vocals, since he never really did symphonies.

I have been meaning to listen to his concerti though, so I might revise my opinion.

But you're being silly if you place anything above the War Requiem or some of his operas as his finest work.

And yeah, I am a singer, hence why I said it at the end of the post.

>> No.47397657

>>47397150
thanks for the recs. I'll take a screenshot of your comment and head to the record store when it stops raining

>> No.47397671
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47397671

What the hell did I write last night /mu/?
I'm not superstitious, but those 13/4 bars are kind of creepy.

also DAT 21/4 bar.
Strong contender for first movement of oboe piece.

>> No.47397727

>>47397657

See if anyone recommends some instrumental stuff for Britten. I've got a few bits on there, but if anyone else chips in with an instrumental rec or two, it might be an idea to add that to the list.

>> No.47397753

>>47397671

Where is your soloist going to breath?

>> No.47397784

>>47397753

breathe*

>> No.47397799
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47397799

I like this, is that okay?

>> No.47397885

>>47397784
All those crotchet rests.
I will 'blow through it' at tempo to check the breathing though...

>> No.47397919

>>47397799
>Vivaldi: le quattro stagioni
>le
no, gb2 reddit

>> No.47397953

>>47397799

Yup.

If you want to check out more Vivaldi that you might like, try the rest of the 'Il cimento dell'armonia e dell'inventione' concerti (the set that the 4 Seasons are taken from) as well.

And then if you want to be really patrish, move onto L'estro Armonico

>> No.47397965

>>47397799
No: no one is allowed to like Vivaldi you pleb.

But seriously, there's nothing wrong with enjoying it as long as it isn't the only thing you listen to.

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47398059

>>47397799
>>47397919
but seriously Vivaldi is fine, you shouldn't feel bad for liking him

>> No.47398141

>>47397799

At least it's not that ghastly Richter recomposition

>> No.47398151

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GGx8TRWFVA

Why is Mendelssohn so good?

>> No.47398276

>>47398151

Because he made a deal with Jesus that, in return for being a good German Protestant, he'd get the ability to excel in any area to which he applied himself and then compose some of the greatest Romantic music.

http://youtu.be/AqdcnNYROLo

>> No.47398297

Greater tragedy: Schubert's death at 31 or Mozart's at 35?

>> No.47398317

>>47398297
I would say Mozart.
Romantic period would have had a real launchpad if Mozart had lived to even 50

>> No.47398320

>>47398297
mozart, clearly.

>> No.47398339

>>47398317
What I was going to say. Would have been very interesting.

>> No.47398377

>>47398297

I personally prefer Schubert's music, but Mozart would probably have caused many more ripples if he'd stayed alive.

At the very least, he'd have finished his Requiem.

>> No.47398381

>>47398317
I don't know, I think Schubert was steering into some fairly novel territory towards the end, and might have established himself as the most legitimate alternative to the rampant Beethovenism of the day.

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47398449

What, in your opinion, is the best recording of The Rite Of Spring and why?

>> No.47398501

>>47398449
I quite like Salonen's but I haven't really looked into too many alternate recordings. Might have to freshen up on Bernstein's before making a judgment.

>> No.47398632

>>47391441
based CLT hands down best trip of /mu/

>> No.47398733
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>>47398449
I have this one and I can attest that it is excellent.
why? I'm not sure... there are so many recordings of this work. I don't really know which are considered definitive.

>> No.47398891

>>47398733
I've heard this one. It's good but not my favorite. From what I recall it just lacks the brutality I like at certain points.

But whatever. As long as no one says Karajan there are plenty of correct choices.

>> No.47398932

>>47398449

Salonen or Litton I think

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>>47398449
Look for Stravinsky's own conduction, its pretty different from what other conductors have done. I also like Solti's (pic related)

>> No.47399965
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47399965

Why haven't I heard more of him in here. I think it is absolutely amazing.

Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra - Dmitri Shostakovich - The Jazz Album (2001)
>classical

https://mega.co.nz/#!mNg1hLDb!GPdDeHeFPrFRWsg6gSEKo1WPuXVWZap1Lw0jbsLUB94

>> No.47400065

I have to write three concert reviews for my music theory class. Not too worried, as they're only 500 words each. The only problem is I have no idea what to write about?

And should I use the term "firetruck" to describe Petroushka?

>> No.47400126

anyone have any links to essential classical guitar albums?

all i have is a Paganini compilation

>> No.47400165

>>47399965
I like him but why did you have to post something so "meh" by him? All about his Quartets/Symphonies.

>> No.47400234

>>47400165
It is the only thing that I have by him, finding good copies is hard. And I do not believe this is a "meh" album at all.

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>>47399965
check out his piano concertos.

>> No.47400270

>>47400065
>should I use the term "firetruck" to describe Petroushka?
Use it 498 times and end the paper with *tips fedora*.

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>>47400065
I don't think you should use firetruck for any kind of review outside /classical/, and Petrushka is neither pompous nor overblown

>> No.47400495

>>47400065
>And should I use the term "firetruck" to describe Petroushka?

no, because it clearly isn't. i don't think you're quite ready to start writing about classical music.

>> No.47400519

Which of the following headphones would be best for classical music?
AKG K 240
Audio-Technica ATH AD 700X
Sennheiser HD 558?

>> No.47400834

>>47400065
Please get out of here faggot

>> No.47400922

>>47397671
Oboist anon here. This doesn't look too difficult at all.

>> No.47402044

>>47399965

I like his 5th symphony, been meaning to listen to the rest of them at some point

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47402202

>>47402044
Listen to Symphony No. 4 right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_KWZutFM-U

>> No.47402439

>>47402044
Symphony no. 4, 7 & 10. now.

>> No.47402529

DSCH #11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBEwf_zdrnw

>> No.47402614

>>47402202

>Scottish National Orchestra

Even more of a reason to listen

>> No.47402720

>>47402614
not jarvi though. no recording of him ever excited me one bit.

>> No.47402834

>>47402720

Of Shosti? I personally quite like some of his Part stuff, although I suppose there isn't exactly as many recordings of Part as there are of Shostakovich

>> No.47402960

>>47402834
in general. his recordings are so pedestrian. for shostakovich symphonies i listen to kondrashin on melodiya.

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>>47392173

>> No.47403037

>>47402960
Are those recordings hard to get? I seem to recall hearing about them and not being able to find them anywhere...could be thinking of another set though.

>> No.47403040

>>47403019

It's ok Calcium, I recommended it straight away :^)

Your youtube shitposting is top-quality btw, very impressed

>> No.47403048

>>47402614
fuck off Ame :^)

>> No.47403204

>>47403048

Not Ame, but apparently the only other Scot in /classical/

And besides, I'd guess that Ame has probably listened to Shostakovich's symphonies before

>> No.47403208

>>47403037
it's the recordings kondrashin made with the moscow philharmonic. licensed by melodiya, reissued by bmg. i'm afraid they're OOP. i was lucky enough to buy the boxed set for a reasonable price.

>> No.47403273

>>47403040
kek it's a repurposed meme raising account

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>>47403208
These?
I just found them on rutracker.

Wow I'm dumb. I'll buy them when I can though.

>> No.47403352

>>47403288
>These?
yep.

>> No.47403651

Who is your go-to composer (bonus points for specific compositions) when you're feeling extremely comfy and contented? I've got plenty of stuff for times of depression and anger, but what's some stuff you like to listen to when you're supremely content with life?

>> No.47403729

>>47403651
Mozart's 26th piano concerto.
Heaven in musical format.

>> No.47403731

>>47403651
franz joseph haydn - sturm und drang symphonies.

>> No.47404025

>>47403651

All about Boccherini. Currently listening to his Guitar Quintet No. 4. It's got castanets in the final movement.

>> No.47404163

>>47394729
>>47395430

The tripfag shill has absolutely no idea.

>> No.47404605

>tfw it's the Fur Alina period of the night

>> No.47405908

nump

>> No.47406473
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47406473

Listen to this absolute gem of late-romanticism. Also confirmed for best era.

>> No.47406562

>>47406473

Fucking Brian.

>I'm 80
>Time to double the number of symphonies I've written

I wouldn't say the Gothic is a gem though. It's an interesting work and definitely has its moments, but...

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>>47403651

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>>47406754

>not listening to Shite

>> No.47406955

>>47406562
I absolutely love it. That synthesis of so many different musical ideas.

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>>47403651
I typically turn on pic related.

>> No.47407059

>>47407034
Is try to toast album but the man on the front looks like a faggot

>> No.47407062

>>47406473

>tfw you will never have a first name like the English late Romantic composers

Havergal and Granville are my two favourites

>> No.47407106

>>47407062
He named himself that though.

>> No.47407132

>>47407059
k.

Denk is great. Attended a Q&A/Concert by him and was very impressed.

>> No.47407151

>>47407062

Well there's hope for me yet then

>> No.47407170

>>47397671
Oh...god. Re-bar and re-beam everything. Consider phrase markings, and...make sure you clearly mark ledger lines. The ideas might not be bad, but it's hard to read with the crappy manuscript.

>> No.47407240

Listening to Pizetti's Requiem. By my reckoning, it must be one of the last Requiems to have been written without orchestral accompaniment

Particularly love the easily picked-out plainchant Dies Irae, but the whole Sequentia is really good.

Speaking of requiems, anyone fancy commissioning one from Mr Part? I reckon he could do a good job with it

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>>47398449
Dynamics are executed wonderfully.
>>47400519
Skullcandies

>> No.47407462

>>47400519
AKG is pretty good for classical. Don't get the sennheiser. I have a K702 anniversary edition.

>> No.47407554

HOW DO I COMPOSE SYMPHONIES

>> No.47407672

>>47407420
NPRClassical50/10

jk. It's a good one.

>> No.47407744

Hey guys, I'm in desperate need of some more classical guitar pieces.

I need something in the style of La Catedral by Agustin Barrios and generally melancholic.

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>>47406473
I mean people on this board disparage Mahler for much less than this...

>> No.47407898

>>47407462
Thanks. Whats wrong with the sennheiser? Too much bass?

>> No.47407949

>>47398449
i listened to a lot of recordings, and my favorite is markevitch. some conductors may have better moments and better orchestras, but markevitch has the entire work in his head, dead on visceral, in all of his recordings (6 i believe).

http://www.amazon.com/Stravinsky-Le-Sacre-du-printemps/dp/B000003XJH

ultimately though, there are many fantastic recordings of le sacre, perhaps too many (live steinberg, 1969 boulez, rias fricsay, monteux, list goes on...).

>> No.47408070

>>47407462
I have the HD518 also. The soundstage is pretty bad and it's not well balanced. Everything orchestral (small or big) sound kinda muddy.

>> No.47408097

>>47407898
Meant for you >>47408070 . It's okay for other music, it's just not good for classical.

>> No.47408197 [DELETED] 

>>47407775
>le epin /swagical/ may may xD dX

>> No.47408498

>>47403651
Go to Composer for comfy eh...
Bach. Specifically Solo violin works, or Art of Fugue.

>>47407170
Yeah don't worry, I will re-set it in sibelius. I would never dream of giving a performer a handwritten score. I just find it "freer" to write that way. No bar lines or playback to get in the way.

>>47407554
You need basic to advanced composition skills, all the rules of species counterpoint, voice leading, chord function etc.
Then you need understanding of musical forms, both micro and macro, a really good understanding of each instrument in the orchestra (this can take a lifetime to fully achieve) and a good knowledge of orchestration; What instruments sound like in different ranges, and how combinations of them can make new sounds, and also about chord coloring/voicing.

After that, go and study some scores. See how the masters do it. Beethoven, Mahler, Dvorak, Shosty, Tchaikovsky, etc. Look up the symphonies you like the sound of and work out what makes them tick.
Once you have a solid understanding of how to write. You should start small. string quartets, piano trios, solo sonatas. Work on developing a style that's personal/unique to yourself. Once you've had pieces performed and reworked based on how the performances/rehearsals went. you can start thinking about larger scale works. Composers don't just jump into writing symphonies, and there's a good reason many wait until they're 40 or 50 before starting. You want a symphony to be DAMN GOOD. and often that takes a lifetime of dedicated composition to achieve.

>> No.47409352

>>47408498
>Art of fugue
>comfy
kek no wonder you like Goebel

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>>47409352
>Those Harpsichord Duels

http://youtu.be/YqXZtGyFyDo?t=52m25s

Maximum comfort

>> No.47411330

So what's /classical/'s favourite recording of Telemann's Paris Quartets?

>> No.47411446

Really new to most classical. I've been really liking Dinu Lipatti's take on Chopin's waltzes. Where should I go from here?

>> No.47411520

>>47411446
Look through
http://pastebin.com/VjGmrPi
See what takes your fancy.

>> No.47411543

>>47411520
>http://pastebin.com/VjGmrPi
Says it's empty>>47411520

>> No.47411564

>>47396078
very nice first time I see it

>> No.47411587

>>47411543
http://pastebin.com/mCZk7xYj

>> No.47411617

>>47411587
>http://pastebin.com/mCZk7xYj
This'll last me a while. Thanks.

>> No.47411758

>>47398449
tons of available choices, many of them good. favorite here would be Steinberg with an american orchestra whose name I forget ATM: it's taut and overwhelmingly intense like it should be. other good choices: Bernstein with the nypo (and not the other one), markevitch (so intense they go past their technical abilities a bit), and for newer ones, muti or gergiev.

didn't mention Boulez because that type of performance isn't really what I look for in rites but i think it's an important approach to have available too

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>>47411543
Wow holy shit that's the first time a pastebin has been removed.
Latest version then I guess:

http://pastebin.com/Hc3xwkT5

Wonder why that happened?

>> No.47411807

>>47402720
really? I generally think the Jarvis are good

>> No.47411877

>>47411758
oh yeah I forgot the other Boulez that rip classical mentioned: much more to my liking

>> No.47411925

Don't mind me, just posting some prime music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w26Qkm4wbGk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd8_fLqz3gk

>> No.47412506

>>47411758
boston symphony orchestra, which was still in its golden age.

>> No.47413802

Bumpů

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKekUYNCZhw

>> No.47414065

I just finished litening to Der Ring des Nibelungen.
The Morek Janowski version, the whole 14 CDs.

Holy fucking shit, this was extremely epic.

>> No.47414819

>>47414065
My god! Good effort.
... what did you think?

>> No.47414898

>>47414819
There are some small parts that seem to drag for a while, but as a whole, the work is fantastic.
And I can see now why the Valkyries became so popular. That buildup, not only in the sound, but in the story, is perfect. One of the most orchestrated parts of the work too.

>> No.47414916

>>47392173

always start with the best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-CFkMUWOuU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y14ALZpv4cA

>> No.47415245

>>47414065
Well done.

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bumpo non poku

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This thread needs more Schiele

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Webern...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPXOG4zpG_A

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Simon Rattles excellent documentary on 20th Century music. Part 2: Rhythm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAvdsZ0AwTk

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>>47417853
First Boulez Piece I've actually enjoyed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIymif74zuo

>> No.47418521

>>47391305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_o_pjxVldI

King of the ostinato bass? I'd think so.

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20thC Part 3: Color
Starting with Debussy's Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er8xQljc_ac

>> No.47419984

Pizzetti's Requiem is bretty good. It's won a new fan

>tfw just finished 10 hours of opera rehearsals

Feels tiring

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>>47419984
Holy shit that's a big day!
what do you play?
Also what Opera are you rehearsing?

>> No.47420097

>>47420083

Singing part. Albert Herring, we open in 6 days, so things are starting to get more busy.

>> No.47420644

What are you listening to right now, /class/ical?
Gould's French Suites here. I love these Sarabandes.

>> No.47421217

>>47420644
Crankin some Bartok...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkwdJJPT97Q

Trying to get more familiar with this piece

>> No.47421333

>>47421217
>That 4th movement.
Bartok is one of my favorite composers... and I think that he still isn't as famous as he should.

>> No.47421380

>>47421333
Shit yeah. I still have much to discover of his music I feel.

Also watching some instrument familiarization clips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10B3e3k6CVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7ngv25gI7c

>> No.47421417

>>47421380

Don't write for the E-flat clarinet, it's a shit instrument and a bitch to play.

>> No.47421541

>>47421417
noted...
We're entering a period of change (have been for 100 years...) so I will be interested to see which instruments stick around, and which new ones become mainstay (Electric guitar, Synth, etc)

>> No.47422428

I'm tired of being the only pony on /mu/ who listens to Vanhal.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBUiNOiYGhE

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>>47422428
Vanhal is ok from the symphonies I listened to.
I have this and some clarinet sonatas that I've been to lazy to listen to.

>> No.47422676

>>47412506
the pre-ozawa bso...

>> No.47423236

>1498 + 516
>listening to tonal music

>> No.47423308

>>47423236
wouldnt be caught dead doing it that's for certain

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>>47423236
>not enjoying composers of all periods

>> No.47423374

Does anybody here think that the Piano Concerto is an overrated form? I can barely stand five or six. Too many notes on most of them. Also, all Romantic Piano Concertos are shit.
My favorites are Bartok's and Prokofiev's.

>> No.47423386

>>47423236
>2088 - 74
>listening to degenerates

>> No.47423464

>>47423386
degeneracy leads to quality
>>47423374
but there's more than five or six great mozart concertos

>> No.47423501

>>47423236
You are denying yourself a thing a great beauty

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