Debussy fucking sucks edition
Way to start off shitty with an ebin maymay OP.
Why do people pretend to like classical music?
What's the best way to listen to classical music? Look it up by orchestra? I try using Spotify's Classify and I can only find dumb shit like 100 Best Pieces for Being Pregnant
rec me some classical albums, /classical/
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>>44881724For me it's always finding a composer I like and exploring as many of his works that I can. I'll get a sample of the well-known works; but it also offers me the opportunity to explore what I may have otherwise overlooked. >>44881761Symphonie Fantastique - Sir. Colin Davis/LSOSchubert's Octet in F - Vienna OctetL'Orfeo - Gardiner
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What a gay thread.
>>44881761For starters, know what to avoid. Insipid puke like Schubert is the worst doo doo you could step in.
>>44882496As a buyfag I have never seen this album available, although /classical/ throws it up often. What's so special?Pic related for the Mozart and Schubert recordings. Pure elegance.
>>44882607>hurrrr a tripcode user whom I dislike has Schubert as his favorite composer>I'd better talk shit about him durrrrrrrrThis is how immature people actually decide what music they enjoy.
>>44881445>no schoenberg or schützmaybe i should trip again
>>44881445who is the filthy cunt that made this graphic without putting any fucking names? How is anyone supposed to know who any of these cadavers are? What an asshole. Even people who really dig classical can glean FUCKING NOTHING from this god damn graphic
>>44881445>lots of second-rate baroque>no rameau
>>44881640because their lives arent very fulfilling so they believe that listening to the most "intelligent", musically gifted form of songcraft makes them intelligent and gifted too. unfortunately it doesn't
>>44883448>curzonWorth getting just for Mozart and Schooby Doo, or is the rest of the set worthwhile as well? For a while now I've been shying away from box sets because it's usually a couple of good things plus 10 discs of merely okay stuff.
>>44884196Which of those portraits do you not recognize?
>>44884196You can't recognize a single one? Uncultured pleb
how can anyone like debussy, its sucks for days!11
listening to Grande messe des morts and reading shakespeare sonnets after a sleepless night, am losing sanity
>>44884252That's as "Straw Man" as it gets.Instead of creating fake examples, use something more concrete next time. It'll better serve your argument if you were even able to articulate one in the first place.
debusy sucks edition? you faggots forgot to include every other classical faggot too. they're all gaaaaaaaaaaaayi cant believe you fags listen to this shit and fight about which one is less gay while dreaming about tickling each others wieners
>>44884783>debussy sucks...? you faggots forgot to include every other classical faggot too>Classical sucks[citation needed]>fight about which one is less gay while dreaming about ticklinge ach others wienersThe only Wiener that tickles me is this one:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIEAFlMvxo8
Does /mu/ like Karol Szymanowski?Last week I saw this guy (video related) peform some of his compositions for solo pianohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RBk7UL--_g
>calcium>celebes>clt>cxca>crudbldwhy do all classical trips start with cwhat is this conspiracydoes it have to do with Beethoven and Cminor?
>>44885403Cause they're all Cunts
>>44885301have you heard King Roger?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjGbu1OK9h0
>>44885301>going to concertsI'm so fucking jealous, how does one go to concerts?
>>44881640>implying we're pretendingClassical is the most beautiful/brutal of all musics!>>44881761Have a pastebin of Classical rec's + youtube linkshttp://pastebin.com/ApfXtFfZ
>>44885672Look up the schedule of your local orchestra's, follow them on facebook, or any other social media you use. Find out when they're in your city, and what they're playing. who knows, your favorite piece might be coming to town shortly!
>>44886416I'm not a normalfagalso Do you write the name of a piece after the Opus number or before it?For Example I have Dvorak's twelfth string quartet, do you tag it asString Quartet No. 12 in F major, Op. 96 "American"Or String Quartet No. 12 in F major "American", Op. 96
>>44886486its personal preference, but I'd usually put the "Name" of the piece lastSeems fairly common:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2sE-i9zgR4
>>44884379I've only got volume one and it's basically 2 good discs 2 bad. The Beethoven/Tchaikovsky is just plain inferior sound. What's good is utterly gorgeous which is why I'd recommend it anyway, but it definitely depends where the price is. Liner notes are a short curzon bio and the discs are in crappy individual sleeves.
>>44886853i have all the volumes sitting around somewhere. i like volume 4 the most. volume 3 is good too, but volumes 1 and 2 are pretty spotty. a lot of the stuff on those volumes he never authorized for release
What's the best recording of Holst's "The Planets" suite? There's been tonnes of recordings made by lots of different people but I only need one and I'd like to pick a good 'un.
>>44887890no
>>44887890There's a very strong version by the Philadelphia Orchestra conducted by Eugene Ormandy. I'm not going to say it's the best, but if I'm going to listen to the Planets, its probably going to be Ormandy.
>>44886486>not String Quartet No. 12 in F major ("American"), B. 179 (Op. 96)
>>44888034Thanks, I'll check that out.
>>44887890>>44888034Guys how do you not know about Dutoit's version?It's literally the undeniable champion.
>>44887890>>44888034>>44888103Link: http://www.amazon.com/The-Planets-Gustav-Holst/dp/B0000041S7/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394139204&sr=8-1&keywords=charles+dutoit+the+planets
>>44888123That's like being the champion of Barber's "Adagio for Strings". Who cares?
>>44888189He asked for the best recording. Dutoit's is easily the best.
>>44888221Right. So you've heard every single recording of the piece?
>>44888143>>44888123Why is that one better than >>44888034 ?
>>44888234Of course not, but it's generally accepted.>>44888235The Dutoit's just really good, solid, and hits all the right marks perfectly.
so 'patrician' op.
>>44888298Uh-huh. Seems like you made quite a leap from 'generally accepted' considering you call it 'easily the best'. That and it seems that you can't even give actual concrete reasons as to why it is a good performance.
>>44888366It's literally the same as contesting Kleiber's 5th with any other recording.
>>44888298So that's the only one worth getting? Are there no other contenders?You'll forgive me if I don't just want to take this answer from one anon on 4chan straight off.
>>44888397Not at all! I'm just saying that's the best one to start with for certain. It's the historically acclaimed champion.Ormandy is great too.
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Stravinski's Rite of Spring is the greatest piece of music known to man.
>>44888436emo fag
>>44888436Firebird suite is better.
>>44888436>>44888555Petrushka>But even better than that, Agon.
>>44888436man must not know a lot then
>>44888436NO.
>>44888600Petrushka is wonderful. Obviously not GOAT but it's a great piece.
>>44881640how do you be this pleb
>>44888555Trips confirm Firebird to be Stravinski's best.
>>44888436I've heard that argument before. There's a certain school of thought in musicology that would agree with you. Just like there is a certain school of thought that lists Beethoven as the greatest composer ever. I'm not entirely sold on either of those, but the argument is there. It is a fun piece either way, have you seen the video on youtube that tries to replicate the original choreography? The quality isn't great, but its worth a viewing.>>44888420And Dutoit's version is absolutely fantastic. There are just a few parts of Ormandy's that I really like, Uranus in particular.
isnt "bussy" another way to say boipussyas in like "claude de boipussy"also post boipussies
>>44888608hey winkle, bit of a random question but is the Horenstein/Philharmonia Missa Solemnis really that much better than the BBC performance? noticed you had the Philharmonia performance in big "bold-and-important" text.
>>44888662>argumenti dont see any argument in that postare you on drugs
>>44888677yes, some of the tempis are significantly faster than the BBC performance which is a huge plus for me, even if the sound quality is sometimes worse
>>44888725guess i'll bite the sound quality bullet then. i just got done through Silvestri's performance and loved it.
>>44888725>tempisTEMPOS or TEMPI don't MIX and MATCH FUCKER!!!
>>44888600agons such an awesome work. its too bad stravinsky didnt survive longer to produce more 12 tone music. i also really like the inclusion of mandolin in the orchestration
>>44888705I'm giving the benefit of the doubt that its not some trolling. It probably is, but still. Would you prefer I said line of thought or something like that?
>>44888777mate you dont live until you mix and matchnice trips
>>44888874uh i think you mean double tripsdo you also go to the pizzeria and ask for two pizzes
>>44888874where is the 44888888 get??
>>44888819Serial Stravinsky gets ignored way too often, even transitional stuff like Agon. Of the full on serial compositions, Movements for Piano and Orchestra and the Requiem Canticles are among my favourite works of his for sure.
>>44888436>>44888555>>44888600Les Noces >
>>44888919http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza-ghetti
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>>44889104Oh
>>44889039listening to requiem canticles now, i like it better than i remembered. movements never really took onto me though
So can someone explain why Tchaikovsky is "bad" aside from faggotry (literal).
>>44889253What recordings have you heard? I tend to agree with a friend of mine that the original Stravinsky/Craft recordings are not so good. For my money, Volkov's disc of the piano and orchestra works is good, and Knussen's disc with Canticles, Variations and The Flood is good too. Unfortunately I haven't found any others.
>>44890247Tchaik isn't always to everyone's tastes. I think most of the /classical/ dislike of Tchaik comes from a noted tripfag who shall remain nameless. That said, Tchaikovsky is pretty far from the Classical period emphasis on clarity of form, the phrases go on forever, and when you turn the page in a symphony its the exact same as the page you were just on. I think the whole firetruck-bullshit is fairly relevant. He can be pretty repetitive at times. All that aside, I do like Tchaikovsky for the melodic lines and awesome wind parts, but that isn't enough for a lot of people.
>>44890705That's a reasoned critique that I can dig. I've been listening to a Swan Lake recording and I find it very enjoyable. I understand firetruck-core a little, but at the end of the day it's still a bit stupid IMO.
>>44885403C for classical : ~ )>>44881445Le hopping on the Debussy hate bandwagon face>>44884518Sounds coolare you drunk also>>44888436Everyone knows the greatest piece of music is most definitely from before the 20th century
Also, why is there so much hate on /classical/ for Emerson String Quartet?I haven't bought anything by them but I can't find ANYTHING critical of them.