>pro tip: you can't phaggotsyeehhhaawwww
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>>44239582wot...
It's called Repeater because they repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot.
>>44239662Post punk, as in 'post titties'Not post-punk like U2.That album is better than Repeater though.
>>44239662You're okay, anon
>>44239548that's not post-punk r3t4rd
>>44239691he means "post a punk album, retard"
>>44239691I meant post punk albums as in POST as in a messagenot post punk the genreoh lawd
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>>44239758kunt
DIRK WEARS WHITE SOX
>>44239726You probably should have put it like >>44239705 if you wanted to avoid confusion.
>>44239548>>44239548
>>44239845
>>44239822>RoC>not In/Casino/Out
>>44239822>ATD-I>post punkIt's like you can't recognize an emotional screamocore band when you see one
>>44239859These dudes pretty much did dance-punk like 8 years before dance-punk became a thing.Great band.
>>44239970yeah, amazing and very underrated band. love the synths
>>44239950Have you ever listened to Arcarsenal?
>>44239990do you know what post punk is?
>>44239990Yes, it's one of my favourite tracks
>>44239950>emotional screamocoreWhat the actual fuck. At The Drive-In are much, much closer to alternative rock than they are to screamoAlso, you can't read
>>44240009Post means afterPunk means fuck you.Yeah I know what Post Punk means. 80's Hardcore is Post Punk. Post Punk is a mostly meaningless term.
>>44240052post punk the genre you dingus
>>44240052Punk means fuck youPost-punk means fuck me
>>44240076That's like saying EDM the "genre". Post Punk is not a genre.
>>44240121http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-punk
>>44240174Did you read the wiki? It was an industry word used to define unique artists under the same umbrella. It still is not a legitimate genre to any kind of specificity. The article starts using the term Post Punk as quickly as it possibly can with the concept that it is non-traditional punk musicPunk music wasn't supposed to be a traditional sound. Post-Punk is punk.
>>44240121just because the two words together can have a meaning that isnt a genre does not mean that one can not define a genre with those two words.
>>44240287It isn't a genre. Punk doesn't have a specific sound. If a "post-punk" band is making music that rebels against the musical norms punk was experiencing then they are making punk music by rebelling against an established sound.Punk music is a sonic rebellion against outdated musical structure. If punk's rebellion sounds outdated, rebelling against the punk sound is punk. The post punk artists are just punks so long as they see themselves coming from punk music.
>>44239636My bestest nigga
>>44240352so are avant-garde artists punks?
>>44240352but it is, by means of mass convention it is. not everything that is contrary to established punk structures is post-punk. its not a closed genre, but rather one that exists more as a blending of elements.
>>44240447Yes, so long as they see their work as rebellious.
>>44240471You don't need the term Post Punk then. Why not name the elements you are blending or the structures you are changing instead?
>>44240516cause its much shorter and more intuitive to the overall aesthetics that post punk bands tend to go for. (not saying they all use the same asthetic, but there are multiple common ones eg. the punk/funk blend the dark/gothic blends etc)
Every other Fugazi record that isn't Steady Diet of Nothing.
>>44240624Just say punk. Punk didn't die, punk rock did.
>>44239990ADTI is very much post-hardcore anon
>>44240724Hardcore is a style of punkPost Hardcore means even less than Post Punk.
>>44240719And punk rock has only very recently died into being a traditional style of suburban youth music.
>>44240759And all the terms we've used function as genre tags, which are ways listeners group together similar sounding musicOf course genre tags don't mean anything in a vacuum but are given function within the context of a great volume of different sounding albumsATDI play in the style of many other bands, and that style has been given the label of post-hardcoreRetard
>>44240801Those bands play in the style of At The Drive In, and I refuse to use tags that have no linguistic meaning. I'm here to point out how stupid those tags are. Retard!
>>44240872So how do you recommend we organize the massive quantities of music? It doesn't matter if you think they're stupid, they're the most efficient way to categorize and keep track of everything out there.
>>44239548This reads like a "My First Punk Album" thread. Repeater? Seriously?
>>44240892I don't. I suggest you go band by band. I suggest you give a shit about more than a genre. I am a person, not a music aggregation website.
>>44240948Alright, brb while I listen to every band existence so I know what style of music they make
>>44240970Are you closed minded to other genres anon?
What's the difference between punk and hardcore?
>>44240991Nope I just think it's silly that this anon is arguing against the existence of genre tags
>>44241005Hardcore is shorthand for second wave punk rock, i.e. post-'78
>>44241005Punk was made in the 1970's hardcore was made in the 80's Ramones vs. Minor ThreatThat's a false dichotomy as both are punk, one is played at a faster tempo than the other is the socially accepted norm.Fuck I hate how divisive punk culture thinks it is. Punk is punk, hardcore is punk, post hardcore is punk. Punk is rebellion, punk never stopped. >>44241020Not against the existence, just against the acceptance of tags that have no place within the broader category of punk music.
>>44241005I think hardcore is what most people think punk is in general (ie. Screaming, yelling, fast power chords and drumming)punk can be a little more diverse, in that it can incorporate stuff from other genres. It can be also be played sloppy but not necessary fast.
Fugazi is fucking shitty soft rock, most boring band after Popol Vuh
>mfw people think punk music is gooddo you guys even watch anime?
>>44241082I can dig that you obviously have a fairly extensive knowledge of the punk scene, and agree that the punk ethos carries into hardcore and post-hardcore. We can agree to disagree friend
>>44241097People are going to think that this is bait, but honestly, they are pretty boring.
>>44241082>That's a false dichotomy as both are punk, one is played at a faster tempo than the other is the socially accepted norm.I actually agree with you. I saw people in the scene get brought down with their divisions instead of being together.I will say this though: when it comes to dividing the music itself into discrete subgenres, I don't mind if it's for the sake of looking for something similar. Otherwise it's all just punk.
>>44239548if Mackaye wasn't such a sanctimonious straightedge pussy, his music wouldn't be so blandit has no edge
>>44241156I agree. >>44241171It took strength in his day to not smoke or drink when hanging out in the punk scene.
imo there are plenty of 'punk' records better than fugazi's first albumlike this one
>>44241192>It took strength in his day to not smoke or drink when hanging out in the punk scene.didn't help him make better music now has it
>>44241202awfulpic related would make more sense
>be in punk bands for a decade>reading these fucking comments
>>44239950>>44240047>>44240724its just highly stylized hardcore. period.
More importantly, who gives a shit? Punk is dead.
>>44241258okay guys you heard anon now stop talking about punk.
>>44241225rites of spring was always pretty iffy imook first emocore album whatever, seemed pretty bland to meembrace i preferred due to being slightly more melodic but having far superior songwritingsaying that moss icon was another level of it's own since it was pretty damn trippy(inb4 omg entry level emo lol lol lol who cares?)
>>44241225>Killing Joke>awfulWow your taste is shit.>>44241228Rum Sodomy & The Lash is a better album than any albums posted in this thread.Save for maybe Grotesque.
>>44241251which by definition is post-hardcore
>>44241228I hope to god you were trying to make musically diverse bands and weren't just another retarded fagot jamming 3 chords and bitching about "The Man.">>44241258Punk Rock is...Punk can't. >>44241251Still was one of the firsts for that genre, and deserves a bit more fucking respect for owning that genre for the 14 years since its release.
>>44240009HE DIDN'T ASK FOR POST PUNK. HE SAID POST ALBUMS FROM THE PUNK GENRE. DID YOU THINK FUGAZI IS POST PUNK?
>>44241285>hasn't listened to rites of spring
>>44241315no shit, read >>44239950
>>44241354I like Rites of Spring a fair bit. Killing Joke are a better band which put out better albums.
>>44239705that's what i thought instantlybutfugazi is not punk
>>44241388*cough* opinions *cough*also a great punk (more specifically post-punk, but certainly still punk) album, which in my opinion has all these albums beat except maybe >>44239811
> overlooked
>>44241298i don't sing about the man hahaha
>>44241566then what do you sing about man?
>87 replies>not posted yet
>>44241583effects of the work routine on my mind>https://soundcloud.com/killdefenses/pageripper-collarblindadvertizing shaming people's appearance>https://soundcloud.com/killdefenses/pageripper-real-eyes-real-liessometimes just reminiscing people & things>https://soundcloud.com/killdefenses/pageripper-rex-goliathwhatever comes to mind i guess. I'll leave songs about the man to more eloquent, informed bands like Propagandhi.
>>44241453>deceit not better than Minutemenare you retarded
>>44241544Best thing Ian ever did.
also, while all of you spend your time beating off over the past and debating hardcore, you missed one of the greatest punk albums of the 2000's
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>>44241803Bed for the Scraping is so classic.
>>44241283(wow r u me)any way OP this is a better punk album,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OMWhA9YYR8 and Ex spectator is fugazi's best albumand One Last Wish - 1986 is the best emo core albumas Moss Icon comp is post-something, but is probably the best punk album