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Important things for non-black /mu/ users:

not every trendy phrase you see on here is for you to use. in fact, lots of the words i see floating around on here are actually aave (african american vernacular english) and when you use it and you’re not black, that’s cultural appropriation

that includes “not about that life,” “bae,” “____ game too strong” and more. it also includes “swag,” but unfortunately i just know enough people will get angry about that and say they as non-black people don’t have to give it up and that’s disrespectful as hell but i’m just one person

honestly, when you use it, this comes with a looooong groan from me because you don’t have the background that lets a phrase like that have any meaning from you. it also acts to lessen the legitimacy of aave because it becomes a joke when non-black people use it, and black people honestly get all kinds of shit from, wow, everyone else, about how the way we speak is not “real English” and a lot of ableist stuff about our intelligence from it

so like, really, think long and hard about what’s better - you making a ‘joke’ using aave that gets some laughs from your non-black friends and pushes black achievements further into the ground, or being, i dunno, respectful? honestly, you’ll live. omitting a few words that don’t belong to you in the first place will not ruin your life.

>> No.43086359

shutup nig

>> No.43086360

>posting true statements meant to troll
I don't think you are doing it right.

>> No.43086380

How can you tell when they're white?

>> No.43086426

OP is white
My black friend is laughing at you
OP has no street cred because they're an armchair activist who doesnt know shit

>> No.43086432

lol dumb nigger that's not how language works

>> No.43086444

well then you aren't allowed to use any 'white words'
so delete your post and try again in ebonics

>> No.43086456

>>43086426
>implying you aren't white
>implying you have friends

>> No.43086469

>>43086297
Why would I want to use such degenerate phrases in the first place you fucking nigger.

>> No.43086505
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43086505

>telling people that they're not allowed to say something because of their skin color
There's a word for that somewhere...

>> No.43086565

>>43086456
Nah I'm white and so are you.
You don't know shit. None of shit you listed matters. White people saying nigger is a different story.

>> No.43086570

>>43086505
Sorry but your ideas are outdated. Racism can only come from a position of privilege so it's impossible to be racist towards white people.

>> No.43086575

All these thirsty niggas. Even OP.

>> No.43086612

>>43086565
Not OP by the way

>> No.43086634
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>>43086570

>> No.43086676

>>43086570
"racism" is the belief that a biological subcategory known as "race" exists and different races can be determined by skin color

if you believe there is something inherently different between people with white skin color and people with black skin color, you are a racist

you can not be racist "towards" people of a certain skin color although you can be discriminatory towards them

>> No.43086744

>>43086570
>Racism can only come from a position of privilege
You also can't be sexist towards men
:^)

>> No.43086768

>>/tumblr/
i'm anti racist and everything but jesus christ no one cares about cultural appropriation of ebonics

>> No.43086813

>>43086768
If you're white and act like cultural appropriation of aave isn't problematic, then you're racist and blinded by your privilege.

>> No.43086829

>>43086297
And why should I give a shit about their culture?

>> No.43086866

>>43086813
>cultural appropriation of aave
>Implying words and phrases like 'swag' and 'im not about that' are aave
>implying you're not racist by trying the stereotype a whole race with stupid phrases
motherfucker you're an idiot
Get out in the real world, niggas dont give a shit

>> No.43086887

they're just fucking words man, chill out

>> No.43086890

>>43086570
>>43086676
>>43086634
>>43086744

This is the scholarly definition of racism. Obviously "racial prejudice" exists on a micro level, you can have a black person who hates white people for no good reason. But this prejudice pales in comparison to the deep-seated institutional and societal prejudices against certain races, so much so that people decided to refer to only the latter as racism. It's not that white people can't receive unfair treatment on the basis of their skin color or that you can't be hated for being a man, its that overwhelmingly other groups suffer from this type of behavior and have for centuries

>> No.43086912

>2014
>on 4chan
>still thinking that certain words and phrases are for certain people to use

Grow up, faggot.

>> No.43086926

>>43086676
so if i believe blacks have inherently darker skin pigmentation than whites i'm racist?
but no really i know this is a troll post but when you look at large ethnic groups there are measurable disparities due to genetics
but life isn't statistics
they don't matter when it comes to individuals
that's the real reason why it doesn't make sense to be a racist

>> No.43086927

but I don't even aim to be respectful when I make jokes

also I don't believe in an ideology that'd make it desirable for different groups of people to have "their own" untouchable-by-others cultures in a way like that.
yes diversity is nice, but no culture or ideology deserves to be protected from jokes or criticism. hurting someones feelings by doing something that isn't really touching them? not very bad a thing in my book. and yes, do criticize what I just said if you feel the need to.

n also, me not getting your culture is, to me, as natural as your culture is to you. I don't honestly have any clue about the origin of the word "swag" or any of the other phrases you just used; I'm not even a native english speaker!

>> No.43086933

>>43086866
I would be racist if I was implying that those phrases are all that matters about African american culture, but I'm not. Its simply a part of it, and white people just need to stay the fuck away from it.

>> No.43086952

>>43086887
No, fuck that. It's important. It's a big deal and you can't see why you're a huge racist.

>> No.43086958

White guilt lefties pls leave

>> No.43086979

>>43086570
Being an idiot is being an idiot no matter what race you are. Statements like this are the kind of thing white-hating liberals say to themselves so they don't have to feel like hypocrites.

>> No.43086989

But I have no qualms about pushing black achievements into the ground.

>> No.43087012

>>43086890
No, racism is, as I posted above, the belief that "race" exists at all.

If you believe different races exist, you are racist, whether you are prejudiced because of this belief or not.

If you believe that the color of someone's skin has any more biological significance than the color of their hair, you are a racist.

>> No.43087018

This thread is spectacular.

>> No.43087068

>>43086926
>so if i believe blacks have inherently darker skin pigmentation than whites i'm racist?

if you believe that this is any more biologically significant than hair or eye color you are racist

the biological subcategory known as "race" literally does not exist, there is no such thing as "races" of people, if you believe there are you are a racist and you are scientifically incorrect

>> No.43087077

>>43087018
2014 is going to be a year of transcendental shitposting

>> No.43087079

>>43086926
this

the differences between individuals inside any given group are larger than the differences between group x and y

>that's the real reason why it doesn't make sense to be a racist
another reason; even if we do determine that group x has a lower IQ or whatever than group y, well, what do you think should be done because of that? a persons human rights don't exactly disappear the moment their IQ is less than average or when their heigh is longer/shorter than some other groups average.

its some pretty irrelevant info, on politics you can't use it without becoming a fascist shithead and on personal level it just doesn't mean jack shit

>> No.43087085

>>43086933
No, you're an idiot, as a white person, thinking you understand any of this. None of those words or phrases are aave. You're an idiot, go back to Tumblr where you think you're actually making a change against racism.

I like this whole "I'm white and I can speak for black people on what is or is not allowed".

Next thing you're gonna say is white people dont belong in rap
If you say that you lose all credibility

>> No.43087097

>>43087012
Shit nigga, that's some one star b8 that not even /pol/ would take.

Does geography not exist either?

>> No.43087119

>concerned about racism
>2014

you're almost as bad as those who think feminism is still relevant

>> No.43087128

>>43087079
>>43087097
In order to claim that race is actually a thing, you need to be able to answer these questions:

How many races are there, and what are they? Please list all of them.

Race can be determined by observing _______.

Finally, you must justify why race is biologically significant. In other words, if indeed 'race' exists, then it doesn't exist just for humans, it must exist for all other life forms. If in fact this is the case, please submit your findings to biology departments around the world and get published, because you've just made a groundbreaking and important discovery for the discipline. You'll win prizes.

>> No.43087142

>>43087077
>transcendental shitposting
I"m laughing too hard at this. :)

>> No.43087155

>>43086505

Filename really brought that one home

>> No.43087156

/mu/ - Music

>> No.43087161

>>43087077
kek, i look forward to it

>> No.43087199

No barriers in communication arise for me at all when a confused white person uses aave. I speak the way I speak and other people speak the way they do and there's no good reason to create tension over that kind of bullshit if nobody is being a dick. Obviously there are people that are being patronizing or ironic about it, and I just allow them to talk at me until I can find a polite exit in the conversation.

>> No.43087202

>>43086933
>and white people just need to stay the fuck away from it.
why?

>> No.43087218
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43087218

"Those who are most sensitive about "politically incorrect" terminology are not the average black ghetto-dweller, Asian immigrant, abused woman or disabled person, but a minority of activists, many of whom do not even belong to any "oppressed" group but come from privileged strata of society. Political correctness has its stronghold among university professors, who have secure employment with comfortable salaries, and the majority of whom are heterosexual, white males from middle-class families.

Many leftists have an intense identification with the problems of groups that have an image of being weak (women), defeated (American Indians), repellent (homosexuals), or otherwise inferior. The leftists themselves feel that these groups are inferior. They would never admit it to themselves that they have such feelings, but it is precisely because they do see these groups as inferior that they identify with their problems. (We do not suggest that women, Indians, etc., ARE inferior; we are only making a point about leftist psychology).
Feminists are desperately anxious to prove that women are as strong as capable as men. Clearly they are nagged by a fear that women may NOT be as strong and as capable as men. Words like "self-confidence," "self-reliance," "initiative","enterprise," "optimism," etc. play little role in the liberal and leftist vocabulary. The leftist is anti-individualistic,pro-collectivist. He wants society to solve everyone's needs for them, take care of them. He is not the sort of person who has an inner sense of confidence in his own ability to solve his own problems and satisfy his own needs. The leftist is antagonistic to the concept of competition because, deep inside, he feels like a loser.

>> No.43087221

Race is a social construct. Being from southern La people talk like that all the time doesn't have anything to do with there skin pigment.

>> No.43087243
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>>43086933
>>43086952
you're stupid as shit son. Black has nothing to do with it. If a white dude grows up in an environment where those phrases are used, and those attitudes are held, you best believe he's gonna mix right in. It's got nothing to do with skin color, you dumb piece of shit.

>> No.43087252

>>43087202
Because it's not their language. That's why people aren't allowed to learn other languages.

>> No.43087280

>>43087202
Because they don't know shit about the culture its from and end up destroying its original meaning. White people are cultural leeches.

>> No.43087338

>>43087243
That's what you think you white privileged fool. You can't understand how it feels for black people to hear white people use these phrases, and if you could you'd agree that people shouldn't do it.

>> No.43087342

My 'nigger, do you think I'm going to read all that shit' macro image hasn't been any more relevant, yet I can't bother to look for it.

But nigger, please.

>> No.43087343

>>43087280
>and end up destroying its original meaning
>Implying
you've never been on the street
go back to your happy suburban white family home and log back on to tumblr

>> No.43087377

>implying "bae" isnt white as fuck

>> No.43087404

>>43087128

>>43087079
here

I didn't claim that there are different races of humans, really. lets say I was talking about ethnic groups, that is ok, yes? or different groups or nationalities, whatever. I'm not too big on playing word games, we just have to understand each other. I'd actually never use the word race when talking about humans in y native language, in English it just is all very common

>> No.43087422

>>43087280
I know you're trolling and all, but I know a lot of actual people with this attitude. It amazes me they don't see the hypocrisy of it. They live in western countries, they read books by western writers, and the entire concept of human rights as a political priority has it's origin in western philosophy. Europe/European people's are the most significant cultural force in human history.

If we're going to call white people leeches for buying a sitar and not playing Indian classical music with it, we might as well take every single European contribution to the world back and let non-white countries go back to the dark ages.

A history of Imperialism doesn't mean European culture isn't something worth celebrating...fuck

>> No.43087424

>>43087128
"Race" does exist because humans are a race. However being white doesn't actually make you a different race from someone who is black or asian

>> No.43087440

>>43087068
Ethnicity does exist. I do agree with you, race is a social construct. But people are different biologically depending on ancestral descent originating from different parts of the world

>> No.43087462

>>43087404
> I was talking about ethnic groups, that is ok, yes

as long as you recognize that "ethnic groups" are a cultural/social thing and aren't in any way related to biology

>> No.43087466

>>43087218
>Quoting a domestic terrorist
>Expecting to be taken seriously

>> No.43087474

yo mane wut da fk iz u sayin breh?! you cant jus b tryna appropriate a niggas speech n shit dawg. that shit aint trill ya kno. shiiiiiet. . . need me some grape drank to cool my ass down now.

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>>43087338
are you speaking for ALL black people? Or yourself? Because it sounds to me like you're just really insecure, and are trying to grab control any way you can.

>> No.43087499

>>43087424
Humans are a species, I'm talking about people dividing the human species up into different "races", which is biologically incorrect.

>> No.43087504

>>43087466
The unabomber might be a sociopath, but the dude knows his shit

>> No.43087509

>>43087462
>"ethnic groups" are a cultural/social thing and aren't in any way related to biology

>2014
>Being anti-semitic

>> No.43087533

>>43087481
They're not black tho
No black person is stupid enough to claim that "swag" and "bae" are African American Vernacular and should only be spoken by blacks

>> No.43087538

>>43087280
why should the original meaning be preserved though? who gets to decide that?

and really, what the hell can you do about the language of a culture being combined with the mainstream language, when the smaller culture is just gaining more and more exposure. if you're going to hear "swag" a hundred times in the art/media you see/hear, well...

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43087541

>>43087252
>>43087077
>>43086575

>> No.43087543

>>43087440
>But people are different biologically depending on ancestral descent originating from different parts of the world

only traits as superficial as the color of someone's hair. there is still no such thing as race

>> No.43087546

>>43087424
>However being white doesn't actually make you a different race from someone who is black or asian

Race is classified by differences in anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic, geographical, historical, linguistic, religious, and/or social affiliation.

>we're all equal under God's eyes, there's no such thing as color

Fuck off.

>> No.43087556

>>43087499
but what about jews? they have lizard blood that sizzles upon contact with gold

>> No.43087557
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43087557

>Mfw I go on some fat SJW's tumblr and I realize OP just copy and pasted from tumblr
>Mfw people take this seriously

Truly this is the end of days

>> No.43087607

>>43087557
>not copy-pasting all sketchy posts to google to check for legitimacy

l2internet

>> No.43087646

>>43087546
>Race is classified by differences in anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic, geographical, historical, linguistic, religious, and/or social affiliation.

... by racists

scientifically there is no biological subcategory of humans known as "race"

>> No.43087653

>>43087462
yeah, sure.

..actually, no. the cultural/social has to affect biology in the long run, or I'd think so. I mean, living conditions and stuff will change the people living in said conditions. and there are measurable differences between people living in different areas of the world, etc, with the weather conditions and all being quite radically different

>> No.43087666

>>43086297
aave is a joke
the only black achievement is lean, and it's just a shit version of the dex punch i've been making since i was 12

>> No.43087680

>>43087646
>facts are racist

Damn you niggas should just the debate team.

>> No.43087692

>>43087653
>I mean, living conditions and stuff will change the people living in said conditions. and there are measurable differences between people living in different areas of the world, etc, with the weather conditions and all being quite radically different

lamarck pls go, you were discredited centuries ago

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>>43087607
Seriously though...somebody out there actually believes this. Somebody actually thinks the word "swag" is a staple of black culture that must be preserved. Just..what the fuck? Does this person just assume that all black people are hip hop stereotypes or something? I'm not even kidding, I have NEVER heard a black man use the word swag outside of a fucking Odd Future song or some shit. And even if I did, I doubt any of the black guys I know would give anything close to a fuck. Like, this shit is the last thing on their mind. The only way you can possibly care about something so fucking pointless is to live a cushy, isolated, life devoid of any contact with reality.

You know what poor black people actually care about? Police brutality and unfair enforcement of drug laws and shit. Not this petty crap

>> No.43087727

>>43086890
>>43086570
Not all white people are in positions of power.

>> No.43087749
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43087749

>>43087680
it is a scientific fact that there is no biological subcategory known as "race"

if you somehow managed to discover evidence that this subcategory exists please see my post above >>43087128 and enjoy becoming famous within the world of biology for your groundbreaking discovery

>> No.43087755

>>43087666
>implying dex is better than codeine

>> No.43087764

>>43087543
Well race is a social construct. Yet skin pigment, different types or earwax, hair oils, bone structure, all these things are different in different groups of people for biological reasons depending or ancestral location. It does have biological important. I guess I'm picking up the bait

>> No.43087794

>>43087764
>Yet skin pigment, different types or earwax, hair oils, bone structure, all these things are different in different groups of people for biological reasons depending or ancestral location

none of these things imply enough genetic difference for the validity of a "race" subcategory, see >>43087749

>> No.43087798

>>43087720
White guilts care about preserving a culture they aren't even a part of because they "understand" the struggle through hip-hop.

And black people who care about whites using "their" words and culture slang are worse.

That's we we ignore them.

>>43087749
>it is a scientific fact that there is no biological subcategory known as "race"
Nah man facts are racists, so they can't be used.

But I see science is suddenly valid when you're using it.

Neat.

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43087804

>>43087749

>Genus: Homo Sapien
>Species: Nigger

>> No.43087809

>>43087541
What are you implying?

>> No.43087856

>>43087798
>Race: an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species; also : a taxonomic category (as a subspecies) representing such a group

no such thing exists biologically

"race" not existing is literally a scientific fact

http://wupa.wustl.edu/record_archive/1998/10-15-98/articles/races.html

>> No.43087870

>>43086297

I agree OP, it's honestly not appropriate but in sincerity, I'm not about that trollin life bae ya herd mah nig whut it dew fo'real step down from the swagmaster mah swag game too strong chunk that deuce up for mah nigga

>> No.43087873

>>43087804
Homo Sapien is a species, not a genus. 'Homo' is the genus that we are a part of.

>> No.43087891

>>43087720
This nigga knows his shit
Also Zizek is great

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>>43086297

>> No.43087902
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43087902

>you don’t have the background that lets a phrase like that have any meaning from you
>words that don’t belong to you
Linguist chiming in. There is no private property in language. Especially on the internet where it is increasingly difficult to discriminate race or nationality. The meaning of words does not depend on the background of the speaker.
Think about this: if it were so and words "belonged" to certain groups, would it work both ways and blacks be forbidden to use English?
In the end, using black slangs outside of their original context is merely in poor taste.

>> No.43087935

>2014
>not kowing the internet is post-race
You guys make me chuckle.

>> No.43087942

>>43087856
>He shows that while there is plenty of genetic variation in humans, most of the variation is individual variation. While between-population variation exists, it is either too small, which is a quantitative variation, or it is not the right type of qualitative variation

Yeah, okay.

>> No.43087944

>>43087727
One thing that always fucks with the minds of tumblr liberals is when I tell them that in Zimbabwe every time Mugabe gets in trouble he blames white people and then his supporters go out and kill a few innocent farmers.

It's like they have no concept of how complicated this shit actually is, as if white people are all one mass and black people are another. They fail to understand any concept of individuality. Ironically they make the entire conversation and how they interpret facts racial. "This person is white therefore he's a racist". Shit like that. They fail to acknowledge any concept of individual experience. They drag everything down to it's lowest common denominator in the name of fitting everybody into this retarded theory they've built. "White=Bad/rich/oppressor and black=poor, victimized, good"

It's the most counterproductive thing to ever hit our national discourse on racial relations. All the concept of white privilege does is make speaking in stereotypes an acceptable practice. Which ironically is the same thing these idiots claim to be against.

It's a vile, dehumanizing, outlook

>> No.43087951

>>43086297
I think the intent behind what's being said is what's important
I'm white and when I say things like swag and other hip hop slang words sometimes I'm being serious and understand the context and other times I'm being silly, it's not about making fun of black people it's just funny because I'm breaking character and speaking in a way that I normally wouldnt.
no race owns a word or phrase anon, if you honestly get butthurt about this you need to check yourself.

>> No.43087959

>>43087873
Sapien is actually the species. The "homo sapien" is just the binomial nomenclature we use for humans.

>> No.43087975

>>43087942
If you have a problem with it see >>43087128 and please respond accordingly. You'll be making a huge discovery.

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43087981

>>43087873
>>43087856
>>43087798
>>43087764

SOCIAL CONSTRUCT

>> No.43087991

>>43087951
>I think the intent behind what's being said is what's important
Not to liberals. To liberals context doesn't matter. Rule of thumb for liberal ideology, if you're white you're a racist until proven racist. Being proven not-racist is impossible.

So basically there's no winning. If you stop using these words, they'll find another reason to think you're a racist.

>> No.43087993

>>43087959
y'know i think they added the homo part especially just for you

>> No.43088000

>negroidal americans trying to tell me what I can or can not say
I don't think so, niggers.

>> No.43088004

>>43086297
>thinks that non-black people appropriate English words
Who do you think came up with English words to begin with?

>> No.43088019

>>43087981
see >>43087128 and please respond accordingly.

>> No.43088020

>>43086297
This entire post is incredibly racist. Why are black people always so fucking racist?
>inb4 shit that whitey did 200 years ago.
It's 2014 and the fucking president is black. Black people have equal rights now. Chances are, OP was never a slave and he's probably never even met a former slave. Move the fuck on.

>> No.43088035

A discussion about words. Thrilling.

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>>43088020

>> No.43088089

>>43087981
Okay different people have different shaped skulls. What does that have to do with race being a social construct?

>> No.43088118

>>43087975
But races are apparently non-existent so how can I list them?

But I'm not going to sit here and copy-paste a giant walloftext you won't read that can be a quick google search

see:>>43087546

>Finally, you must justify why race is biologically significant. In other words, if indeed 'race' exists, then it doesn't exist just for humans, it must exist for all other life forms. If in fact this is the case, please submit your findings to biology departments around the world and get published, because you've just made a groundbreaking and important discovery for the discipline. You'll win prizes.

Because humans adapting and evolving to their differing environments is SCIENCE at it's purest.

And yes, that exists.

Also the fact that Africa in 2014 is still primarily what it was when and before the first round of mass Colonization began. And Japan recovered from TWO nuclear bombs in what is considered an extremely short time.

>> No.43088166

>>43087951
I think his point is that when you are saying that stuff to be silly it's indiciative of the institutionalized satire/mockery of black slang

>> No.43088215

>>43088118
>But races are apparently non-existent so how can I list them?

You're the one attempting to prove that race exists. In order to prove that race exists please find out how many there are and list them.

Learn some reading comprehension.

>> No.43088247

>>43087343
>go back to your happy suburban white family home and log back on to tumblr
Why do people use "white suburban family" as an insult?

>> No.43088255

>>43086297
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8

>> No.43088299

>>43088118
Africa is shit because Western (white) governments keep it that way so that the people will have no options to survive other than slave labor in order to make sure that corporations can keep having cheap labor.

>> No.43088330

>>43088247
Because in this context it means you're talking out your ass and you don't have any experience whatsoever in what you're talking about

There's nothing worse then a white suburbanite with a tumblr trying to speak for black people. Of course they'll never admit to "speaking for" black people, but that's what every single one of them does.

>> No.43088350

>>43088215
But if we're all equal and there's no such thing as race then how come the difference between African and Japanese and the rest of the world is so distinct?

And again, too long to paste.

google list of races.
>>43088299
>muh evil white men

No, it's shit because they're still doing the same shit they were doing centuries ago and haven't evolved much past that besides the South.

>> No.43088382

>>43088299
>Africa is shit because Western (white) governments keep it that way

Our corporations exploit the fuck out of China too, and look, it's one of the fastest growing economies in the world!
Africa sucks because it's leadership sucks above all else. You can't blame colonialism for this anymore, it's their fucking responsibility to not be corrupt as fuck

>> No.43088416

>>43088350
>But if we're all equal and there's no such thing as race then how come the difference between African and Japanese and the rest of the world is so distinct?

Geographic, social, and cultural differences.

>> No.43088445

>>43088416
Oh wow and what are some of the classifications for race?

It couldn't be geographical,social, and cultural could it?

OH WOW IT IS.

>> No.43088452

>>43088118
>Also the fact that Africa in 2014 is still primarily what it was when and before the first round of mass Colonization began. And Japan recovered from TWO nuclear bombs in what is considered an extremely short time.

How ignorant can you be?

>> No.43088464

>>43088445
So we agree that there is no biological subcategory known as "race" then?

>> No.43088474

>>43088452
I said primarily.

I realize it's on it's way, calm down Raheed.

>> No.43088481

>>43086297
So if we're >implying that usage of shit like 'swag' and 'bae' is "cultural appropriation", can you explain why it's so terrible. It seems like everyone is so caught up in talking about muh appropriashun that they gloss over why it's bad. It seems like it essentially boils down to "Nuh uh those is ouah words youse can't use em". Shouldn't the point here be to share culture instead of keeping it exclusive to one race?

>> No.43088483

>>43088166
>it's indiciative of the institutionalized satire/mockery of black slang
what the honest shit does that even mean. cant something a black would say just sound funny coming out of my pasty mouth? racism and evil isnt at the core of every fucking interaction.

>> No.43088502

>>43088464
Labels are labels, if you want to be that guy then sure.

But as long as you know we're all different, then sure we can end thhis.

>> No.43088515

>>43088483
Its treating black people like they're just a bunch of clowns that we need to laugh at, rather than respecting them as actual fucking people who have come up with a distinct dialect.

>> No.43088529

>>43086297
>not appropriating culture
>2014
get on the globalisation train sonnnnn

>> No.43088552

>>43088382
Different anon, not an SJW, but isn't China pretty horrible for most people? Working 16+ hour days, 7 days a week, for barely enough money for food and shelter?

>> No.43088555

>>43088502
>as long as you know we're all different

We are not different in any biologically significant way.

>> No.43088558

how the fuck am i supposed to talk then?

fuck you

>> No.43088576

>>43088555
And the trips too.

You just had to keep it going didn't you?

>> No.43088578

>>43088515
no if anything I'm being self deprecating

>> No.43088581

>>43086297
sorry OP, anyone from anywhere can freely say whatever they want.

cultures mix, cultures mingle. that's how we got all of the fantastic music we listen to all the time. fucking nutjob

>> No.43088593

hahaha, tHEY'RE JUST WORDS!!!!! WHO CAAAAAARES

>> No.43088599

>>43088474
I was thinking more about how Japan already was well educated, got help from the west to rebuild etc while Africa has been fucked over by the west since forever and today has a rapidly increasing standard of living. Not to mention there being different cultures etc. It's zero proof for biological races in humans, and if you think otherwise it's because you are ignorant.

>> No.43088611

>>43088555
blacks have an extra ankle that makes them run faster

>> No.43088627
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43088627

guise Led Zeppelin stole shit from black guys

>> No.43088644

I know OP is pasta but could he prove that those words and phrases originated from african americans? If so are there any Caucasian phrases that should only be used by white people?

>> No.43088669

>>43088599
Again Africa is the way it is because you and rest of Mandella & Co. need to blame the whites.

We raped Japan back when it was isolated and even though we left our plague of Capitalism, it's doing fine.

But again, why can they self-tech and evolve, get raped by THE EVIL WHITES, and prosper?

Yet Africa can't for the most part, do it too?

>> No.43088685

>>43086297
racist dude is racist
get over yourself or make your own language so only you and your friends can speak it
luckily we don't have this kind of shit in spanish

>> No.43088690

>>43088555
Black people are better athletes than white boys
The lack of brown in there skin makes them soft and useless in all physical activities

>> No.43088692

>>43088552
China was horrible even when it was straight up communist. That said, the amount of wealth in the country has increased massively. That's just a plain fact. It's infrastructure has gotten far better also.

Africa's problem is it's leaders usually get put into place through corruption and then try to stay there through brutality. There's almost no concept of civic responsibility in the place. It's dog eat dog in the most literal sense. These people view politics as a business, not as something they do for the benefit of their people.
You can blame colonialism, you can blame western corporations, but at the end of the day these countries are independent. They have their own governments. They can do whatever the fuck they want in their own borders. They've chosen to make money off their own people and brutally silence dissent at the expense of economic and social progress.

>> No.43088721

lord jamal pls go...

>> No.43088723

>>43088644
of course not, white people aren't allowed anything special that other races can't have, that would cause ww3 as a matter of fact.

>> No.43088734

>>43086297
Not music.

>> No.43088769

>>43088721
Jamar is the epitome of bitter black man stuck in the 90's.

Why haven't Nas & him collab'd on a new Neo-Panther album yet?

>> No.43088790

>>43088690
correction: *some black people are better athletes than *some white people

also please explain how "athleticism" is enough to serve as a basis for creating a new biological taxonomic classification known as race. should people who are good singers be classified into a different race than people who aren't as well?

>> No.43088803

>>43088769
Everything he said was on point. Go listen to brand Nubians one for all and learn many wisdoms and truths

>> No.43088838

>>43088790
It's common sense that black people are just destroy those albino rats in ALL athletic activities ALL the time
They make better music too

>> No.43088839

>>43088803
I have already.

>> No.43088883

>>43088838
you're racist, you are the problem

>> No.43088954

>>43088883
I'm not racist. I love white woman

>> No.43089013

>>43088954
nope, you are racist.

>> No.43089110

>>43089013
I'm not. Screaming RACIST just becuase I speak the truth with out being politically correct doesn't make me racist. I have no problem with white people, I just know where they stand in nature.

>> No.43089112

this is fucking retarded.
This is like saying that straight people can't say words like "camp" and "butch" because they originated in british polari--a previously exclusively gay british vernacular.
or better yet, that the "white-american" language should just stop using all culturally influenced words or anything that came from another language.
I'm gonna say nigga and turnt and call my boyfriend my bae and you can't do shit about it.
nigga you need do some learnin before you step up and start reading society.

>> No.43089127

>>43086676
I think OP is a faggot, but you are wrong.
Aknowledging the existence of race means you must agree that races are different and therefore unequal. Racism is the negative treatment or opinion of someone shows to individuals because of those individuals' racial backgrounds.
Race requires the presupposition of inequality. Racim requires the idea that there is a racial hierarchy.
>>43086890
That isn't a scholarly definition of racism. It is a definition that is totally unsupported outside of the PC Liberal bubble.

>> No.43089201

guys srsly. stahp fightnin.

>> No.43089224

>>43089110
nobody here is screaming, well im not at least.

>albino rats

Also, why are african americans so offended over the word nigger? It's just a word. The only people that should be offended by it are the afircan americans that were slaves/and or oppressed back in the days. African americans have so many privileges nowadays I can't help but feel them getting offended by a word is due to personal anger problems.

>> No.43089249

Are all black people African?

>> No.43089297

>>43087466
I don't agree with Luddism at all, but he is totally sane and makes a completely valid argument.

>> No.43089355

>>43087720
>posting Zizek
Pleb

>> No.43089357

>>43089224
I don't know why people get mad when you disrespect them. I don't know what your getting at. Black people are moving up in society. Taking advantage of your filthy systems and leaving in harmony with each other despite your will to destroy and steal every resource on the planet. I forgive you though

>> No.43089386

>>43089357
Living*

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43089394

>>43086570
Racism is an institutional relationship. It's not an opinion that's held by white people or a certain pattern of behavior. Individualizing the issue only makes enemies and distracts attention away from the social structures which influence and create our behavior.

>> No.43089414

>>43089357
>black people
>living in harmony with each other
The only thing niggas hate more then the white man is other niggas.

>> No.43089500

>>43089357
It is a word, the person taking it is the one giving it value.

>taking advantage of your filthy systems
I do not own them hahaha
>living in harmony with eachother
see: the ghettos

>despite your will to destroy and steal every resource on the planet
lol wtf where are you coming up with these ridiculous assumptions about me?

>i forgive you though

alright i lost it, this guy is an idiot hahahaha.

>> No.43089525

you 'americans' so retarded, both crackers and niggers make me laugh and i feel sorry for you
i'm from south america, i can say whatever i want
listen up OP, nigger nigger nigger nigger, and i'll say it with a shitty accent
suck my cultural heritage imposed by the idiots spaniards, i don't give a fuck, i live happy in my poor country and i'm free to say and do whatever i want

>> No.43089527

>>43089414

What about koreans

>> No.43089629

>>43089500
At the end of the day I don't hate you. I just want you to see that race doesn't matter and we can work together to fix what your ancestors did. If your goin to call black people the n word Use it in the correct context and add the -a at the end. Nowadays it's not a big deal when you use it like that.

>> No.43089670

>>43089394
>Racism is an institutional relationship.
An institution that is guided by the opinions and ideology of individuals. The state isn't some omnipotent entity, it's run by people. Liberals and conservatives alike need to start realizing this shit.

Acting like racism is a purely institutional thing ignores the human element, and more importantly excuses the idiocy and prejudice of the underprivileged. It's an act of hypocrisy to ignore racist thinking in blacks just because they don't have money and cops hate them. If you decry it in whites and don't decry it in blacks your nothing but a liar, and your whole ideology is actually based around your dislike of whites and not on any opposition to racism and prejudice themselves.

>> No.43089721

>>43089629
>2014
>being this brainwashed

>I just want you to see that race doesn't matter
when did I ever say it did?

>we can work together to fix what your ancestors did
>what your ancestors did
bro get your head out of your ass and reread what you are saying.

>if your goin to call black people the n word use it in the correct context and add the -a at the end
Not that I use the word, but why should I follow rules you are trying to lay down on me? This is my life and I will do as I please. Maybe african americans should get a grip on reality and not expect special rules, maybe they should just laugh at the word nigger and then it wont be so offensive anymore.

>> No.43089821

>>43089721
Its just a suggestion. you dont have to do anything. Get some kanye west in your life boy.

>> No.43089865

>>43089821
>assuming I don't already listen to his music

Jeez seriously every one of your responses towards me has been an empty assumption about me, you should really think before you type.

>> No.43089866

>>43089355
>using the terms pleb or patrician in the context of music taste

Did you forget it's not 2013 anymore?

>> No.43089917

>>43089865
Good. He(a black man) makes better music the Any albino rat ever could. Don't forget that and we will be cool.

>> No.43089956

>>43086297
We're all green behind the screen.

>> No.43089967

>>43089917
He is just a man, and he makes hip hop, so hypothetically he can't be better than an electronic music producer. Your trolling is very bland.

>> No.43089994

>>43089967
*hypothetically speaking

>>43089917
also you seem to be very insecure about african americans being lower than caucasians.

>> No.43090014

>>43089967
Don't marginalized kanye to just hip hop. He makes human music. The milky ones can't comprehend the amount of sheer genius this black man produces.

>> No.43090042

>>43090014
eh this thread is boring, you aren't even trying to troll anymore, or you need to work on your bait. either way im done with this thread.

>> No.43090177

>>43090014
nah dis nigga yeezus thinks too much of himself like hes god nahmean? shit makes a nigga look bad no matter how good he is. and he aint even that good so he looks like a fool

>> No.43091479

Why are you fools arguing with this person?

OP is
>brain washed
>mentally ill
>college educated (liberal arts of course, nothing that actually contributes to furthering humanity, only arguing, dividing and bickering under the facade of being an intellectual)
>Marxist
>post-modernist thinking freak

These people just use tactics of round about logic and will split hairs all day long until you just submit out of pure exhaustion. Subversion at it's finest.

We purposely opened up everything for people who are underprivileged, and pretty much all ethnic groups except blacks and Hispanics succeeded. But feelings and rights and muh movements and identity politics. No one attempts to look at things in other ways, only from a perspective of automatically treating peoples feelings nicely and putting them above truth and harsh reality.

Small time shit, rise above it. But college is safe and comfortable and your superiors give you permission to play up, give you a feeling of accomplishing something, when in reality you're analysing the fuck out of things that don't exist, and in fact are things you created yourself. That is the toppest of keks for all these fagg-a-rino academic critical theory tools.

>> No.43091620

>>43091479
>post-modernist
An actual post-modernist wouldn't give anything close to a fuck about language. They think it's so open to interpretation as to be utterly meaningless.

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