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Worst album of the year so far according to Piero

>> No.41294293
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41294293

Piero goes hard in this review

>> No.41294305

>>41294293
I thought yeezus was like a 7.5/10 but I also completely agree with this review

>> No.41294316

>>41294279

Based Scruffy nailed it again.

>> No.41294322

>>41294279
>>41294293
Literally just deleted all my scrobbles.

>> No.41294348

>As a narrative experience, these stories may try something new but it's more a case of a populist bard desperately trying to find something new to say to his followers than a serious discussion on gender and race.

Delicious. These few lines alone shit all over every tryhard overanalysis farted out by Pitchfork and whatnots and render them all desperate jokes. Scruffles delivers as always.

>> No.41294363

Also Dan Deacon's America got a 7 and Sunbather got a 6.5 (even though he was pretty critical in both reviews)

>> No.41294373

>>41294322
>deleting scrobbles

Hey everybody, look how pleb this namefag is.

>> No.41294400

>>41294373
>scaruffi's word
>pleb
Wow, newfags in 2013 wtf..

>> No.41294402

i want the p4k staff here to take lessons on how not to suck kanye's dick. Yeezus was a 5/10 at best.

>> No.41294417

>>41294402
hehe, how to not*

>> No.41294426

>>41294293
>A four-song EP would've been better
At least he got something right.

>> No.41294448

I wonder how hard piero will pan RAM.
I'm guessing a 4 or a 4.5 at the most.

>> No.41294457

>>41294448
I'm predicting a 5/10

neither remarkably good nor bad

>> No.41294467

>>41294457
He'll rip songs like Doin'It Right apart though

>> No.41294478

Does Scruffy ever give anything above 7.5/10?

On the whole I think he's a terrible Hip Hop reviewer, he obviously doesn't like the genre his bias against it is so clear.

I'm not a butthurt Kanye fanboy btw, I think Yeezus sucks dick

>> No.41294492

>>41294478
he doesnt know jack about hip hop, metal, and anything of any genre made in the past decade

>> No.41294497

>>41294478
He gave pharmakon a 7.5 just a week ago.
He's also been giving out sevens a lot lately.
And maybe it's not bias against hip hop but him understanding that it's a genre mostly filled with terrible artists

>> No.41294501

>>41294448
I predict that he will completely tear it apart. One of his most important criteria is originality, and that's where RAM's completely lacking.

>> No.41294502

>>41294293
wow that ether

>> No.41294507

Oh shit thought he'd give it at least 6.5/10

>> No.41294512

It's morning here in Europe and for most of the sane Eurobros this review is spot on I see, but I can't wait for Murrica power hours and the wave of rectum ache it will induce among all the Kanye dickriders and the whole so-not-racist-such-open-minded pleb crowd that /mu/ is infested with nowadays.

>> No.41294517

>>41294497
Look at his reviews for Jay Z, Tupac, Eminem; I think there's one 7.5 among them (MMLP); other classic rap albums are panned

>> No.41294518

>>41294497
I do like that he factors in the fact that the instrumentals on most rap albums don't mean shit (notice how I didn't say hip hop) since it's kinda become a widely accepted fact in popular rap that you're just gonna pay someone to write music for you then rap over it

>> No.41294519

>>41294512
>tfw from Europe
>tfw I like Yeezus

>> No.41294526

>>41294478
His highest rated hip hop album is 8, second highest is 7.5, I mean what do you expect from an old white Italian dude

>> No.41294530

>>41294518
>that he factors in the fact
shoulda proofread that
fuck I'm tired

>> No.41294532

>>41294526
The guy adores Korn

>> No.41294543

>>41294532
>>41294526
people on /mu/ really need to stop arguing about how good or bad scaruffi is and come to recognize the fact that he's an old white italian dude posting reviews on a website that's 15 years out of date with a taste in music that's 25+ years out of date

>> No.41294545

>>41294526
He gave dalek 4 7's and a 7.5 and a 6.5, meaning he must think of them as one of the best of the century.

>> No.41294551

>>41294543
It's not his websites
It's his knowledge base

>> No.41294564

>>41294551
it's the greatest website of all times

>> No.41294574

>>41294497
>He gave pharmakon a 7.5 just a week ago
Scruffles confirmed for shit taste.

>> No.41294576

>>41294293
>>41294279
Never respected scrufflez more in my life.
One of his few actually good and unbiased reviews.

>> No.41294582

This is more of a metaquestion, but isn't Scruffi faking a lot of his shit?

>> No.41294584

>>41294543
Too bad one of the few visible eloquent and somewhat knowledgable music critic /mu/ can talk about is that one italian dude who still thinks he's a big deal and believes he can be everywhere.
Scruffles has some interesting point of views, butwe should keep in mind that these are just points of view.

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>>41294543
mad kanye fan spotted

>> No.41294596

>>41294588
nigga I don't even like Kanye, I just think Scaruffi is a completely unremarkable critic

>> No.41294601

>>41294588
I'm not trying to diss him or anything, but what does he actually do?
Surely any other person would label an album like that 'various artists'.

>> No.41294603

>>41294596
true, but he is a brillian rhetorician. which is why everyone believe he is a good critic.

>> No.41294616
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41294616

scaruffi needs to get like christgau

>> No.41294624

>>41294588
>Chris Soper - handclapping

lel

>> No.41294628

>>41294601
fucking god this
like the music is aight but does Kanye actually have anything to do with it other than his vocals?

>> No.41294636

>>41294616
As if I needed more reasons to not take that hack seriously

>> No.41294639
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>>41294543

You really need to stop trying hard to dismiss a reviewer for what his website looks like and what's more important stop implying that somehow a music taste of white teenagers who take as a holy word cowardly reviews of rap albums churned out by sites like Pitchfork that at this point wouldn't dare to call a laziest fart by Kanye nothing less than yet another genius move by him is THE taste.

Realize the fact, faggot - Scruffy is an European guy in his 50's, but he might as well be a 17 years old Tibetan hermaphrodite who writes her reviews using Webdings and it still wouldn't matter, because a spot-on review is spot-on and it's the only thing that's important. If that review can precisely attack your comfortably established opinion on something then you are the one who loses.

>> No.41294645

>>41294478
he gave The ArchAndroid a 8/10

>> No.41294650
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>>41294624
>twf a dude is probably maid much better than you'll ever be for clapping his hands to a shitty beat on Kenny East's album

>> No.41294651

>>41294639
#scorched

>> No.41294653

>>41294639
p4k sucks balls though

>> No.41294666

>>41294582
Well I guess he faked that Boards Of Canada thing

>> No.41294719

Haha Scaruffi is such a meta hipster faggot.

>oh wow everyone likes it, guess i have to hate it

Can't believe anyone takes him seriously.

>> No.41294735

>>41294719
>everyone loves yeezus
lol

>> No.41294743

>>41294719
>MBDTF
>7.5

>> No.41294750

>>41294582
what do you mean

>> No.41294754

>>41294603
I will admit I like to read his reviews just because of the way he writes them

>> No.41294758

>>41294719
>>oh wow everyone likes it

[citation needed]

>> No.41294764

>>41294758

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeezus

Look at the ratings

>> No.41294767

>>41294576
>finally agrees with my opinion
>this is a good review
lol

>> No.41294770

>>41294754
He's only good at writing that though. His poetry is college-freshman-who-jut-discovered-Ionesco-tiers

>> No.41294771

>>41294743
Just cause p4k gave it a 10 doesnt mean it is.
It was overhyped and overpraised.
Now that it has sunk in a lot of people say it's not his best.

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>>41294293
>Maybe this album was only meant as a self-mocking joke?

What a slowpoke

>> No.41294781

>>41294767
Thats not what i said lol

>> No.41294782

>>41294645
Is that hip hop? I thought it was pop/rnb

>> No.41294786

>>41294771
and because scaruff gives it a 7.5, it is?

>> No.41294787

>>41294750
Pretending that he listened to extremely rare albums for instance

>> No.41294789

>>41294781
this review is just as silly and bias as any of his other reviews, the only difference is you agree with what he's saying here
he's not changed over night

>> No.41294798

>>41294787
[citation needed]

Not saying you're wrong btw

>> No.41294799

>>41294782
RnB on steroids

>> No.41294809

>>41294786
No, but if he writes a good review explaining why it gets it it's fine.
Like the yeezus review.
And a 7.5 from scaruffi is pretty good.

>> No.41294817

>>41294789
You could say that to any review made by anyone.

>> No.41294819

I haven't been able to access this motherfuckers website in days, /mu/. The fuck.

>> No.41294824

>>41294787
i thinking he must be faking some part of it, most likely his literature section, because his poetry is too horrible for him to actually have read all of those books

>> No.41294828

for me WOTY is Artpop, sooo dissapointing

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>>41294293
Nice, now I finally have a reason not to listen to this album anymore.

>> No.41294836

>>41294798
http://www.scaruffi.com/vol6/boardsof.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_Memories

For example

>> No.41294844

>>41294817
what, no, are you fucking retarded? you just said he's a biased reviewer, not all reviewers are biased
I'm not even going to reply anymore you're so stupid it hurts

>> No.41294849

>>41294828
What did you honestly expect from radio/club oriented top 40 dance pop

>> No.41294852

>>41294836
>implying Scruffles is not a close friend of BoC

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>tfw Scruffles didn't say more about Lou Reed's death

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>>41294735
>>41294743
>>41294758
You could have gone to wikipedia yourselves anons. Try to keep up please.

>> No.41294864

>>41294836
>>http://rbt.asia/mu/?task=search2&ghost=yes&search_text=&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=scaruffi-boc.png&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_media_hash=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=post

>inb4 ame as a source

>> No.41294869

>>41294852
Neither of Marcus or Michael are in his "friends" list, so...

>> No.41294878

>>41294864
The archieve doesn't work for me, could you summarize it?

>> No.41294884

>>41294864
Exactly.
I don't think that Ame is a valid source.

>> No.41294891

>>41294878
Ame claims that scruffy told her that he got it from the band.

>> No.41294894
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41294894

>>41294878
Here

>>41294884
I don't think Wikipedia is a very valid source :^)

But in all seriousness I was obligated to post this because it's the extent of evidence we have to the contrary of what you said

I have no doubt the email is real, I only question whether or not Hipmaster Scruffs was lying or not, making me wonder why he would lie about something of the sort.

Can't think of anything.

>> No.41294899

>>41294891
They made the tape before Scuffy's website was even a thing...
And I don't really see how,without that, Scruffy could have been one of their close friends, honestly.

>> No.41294910

>>41294894
I seriously doubt that that mail is really from scruffy.

>> No.41294915

>>41294894
Let's assume that Scruffi speaks the truth on this matter, but I bet there are more reviews like this including Scruffi claiming that he listened to it

>> No.41294930

>>41294910
If someone proves me wrong I'll gladly admit it, although that seems very unlikely.

I haven't looked into what his email is or how to contact him, if somebody did that and screencapped it they could either back up or debunk what Ame claimed.

>>41294915
>I bet

Well I bet you like the smell of old sweaty socks but that doesn't make it true either?

(there very well could be but a statement like that doesn't really help anything)

>> No.41294933

>>41294930
i asked him how many languages he spoke once

he replied: "none"

i'm not fucking kidding btw

>> No.41294943

>>41294933
Shit, that's gotta be the worst attempt at being 2deep4u I've ever seen...

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>>41294933

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>>41294639
>but he might as well be a 17 years old Tibetan hermaphrodite who writes her reviews using Webdings

>> No.41295036

>>41294293
biggest #wrek since titanic

>> No.41295182

>>41294864
I emailed him several times about the exact same thing, and he never responded.

So yeah, I wouldn't trust any screencap by Fuhrer claiming otherwise.

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>>41295182
>>41294930
And of course let's not forget he claims his Beatles essay has received several awards, none of which are specified or cited.

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>>41295182

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>>41295199
>>41295182
>>41294930
Additionally, he tried to claim that New Album by Boris was a compilation, despite it very clearly not being so. That just makes me think he read the track list on Wikipedia and never listened to it.

Scaruffi is about as credible as any Anon over at /b/.

>> No.41295215

>>41295199
>>41295182
>>41295212


I dunno man, because there's a lack of concrete evidence on either side I'm floating around in the gray area where I feel obliged to bring Ame's pic up

It does seem fishy though

It's a good thing none of us are taking his actual numerical scores seriously and are only using his site to find things we wouldn't normally otherwise right?

...right?

>> No.41295217

>>41295199
Scruffles is just the king of [citation needed], really. Makes you wonder if he didn't pay for his PhD in maths. seriously, not giving your sources when you write is something that can get you kicked from an university.
his page on Stanford's website is one hell of a joke too. Honestly, it's most likely to be an April's fool made by a /mu/tant from Stanford. because if it is true, that would be enough to ruin Scruffy's academic carreer.
not to mention :
>self-publishing your research
>in so many fields

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For the first time I agree with this fag

>> No.41295254

>>41295215
>I dunno man, because there's a lack of concrete evidence on either side
Burden of proof rests on Scaruffi. Fuhrer is literally the least reliable source for this kind of thing, since his trolling agenda has, for a very long time, been very much infused with Scaruffi quotes, copy-pastas and generally referring to Piero's opinions as if they were facts.

>> No.41295257

>>41294518
they might as well pay people to rap for them anyway considering they pay for everything else

>> No.41295281

Why does Scruffy's website look like it's from 1997?

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41295282

Yeah, well fuck that 12 year old lover.

Look at this pretentious fuck
LOOK AT HIM

>> No.41295288

>>41295254
>Burden of proof rests on Scaruffi.
I agree, which is why in light of no proof there is a gray area where it's up to you whether you believe that he's listened to it or not.

He certainly isn't doing much to help the situation either, although I doubt it's a very big deal to him either way.

>> No.41295289

>>41295281

Because he did it for himself

>> No.41295297

>>41295281
He says it's because it's easier to load but allegedly it's really because he's a noob at making a website.

>> No.41295299

>>41294857

>Reviewers
>People

Gooby pls.

>> No.41295304

>>41295288
>which is why in light of no proof there is a gray area
No, which in why in light of no proof, the most likely situation is to be assumed: Scaruffi has never heard the super rare BoC material, there are no international awards for his Beatles essay, and he never listened to Boris' New Album.

>> No.41295305

>>41295289
Is that the same case for Robert Christgau?
Except Christgau's site is even worse.

>> No.41295310

>>41294543
>white
this matters why

>> No.41295311

>>41295304
This, goddamnit. something is not true until proven wrong, but wrong until proven true.

>> No.41295315

>>41295304
>assumed
I prefer not to think like that but you're free to.

>>41295311
That's not how it works.

>> No.41295325

>>41295315
So if I say that people 75% of the population of Nepal owns a pink telephone, that will be true since you can't prove me wrong?

>> No.41295330

>>41295315
Alright.

There's constantly a ghastly humanoid behind you, gazing over your shoulders. It controls your thoughts and everything you do. Because of this, you can never see it. There's no proof for this claim, but since you can't prove that it's false, you'll say that it lies within a "gray zone" of truth and false.

Or, will you assume that something as outlandish and ridiculous as that is false until you can see evidence for it?

>> No.41295360

>>41295325
No, it becomes a possibility that I am able to either
a. believe
or
b. not believe

Until you prove it. Acknowledging that something is unlikely != saying it isn't true

in addition, being unable to prove something wrong != proving it right

>>41295330
see above

>> No.41295372

>>41295360
I'm pointing out how ridiculous it is for you to even entertain the possibility that Scariffi's "essay" on the Beatles has received several international awards for being the best professional yaddayadda. The claim is so extremely outlandish, and he provides not a single source for it, that the only logical thing to do is completely dismiss it as made up nonsense.

It doesn't help his case that the essay is not only littered with silly opinions and biases, rather than analysis and facts, but also bloated with factual errors.

>> No.41295380

>>41294501
>Daft Punk
>Electro producers
>make Disco album
It was original for them

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Why hasn't this Pero guy reviewed any Italian albums?

>> No.41295394

>>41295305
christgau's is betterm his site has a working search function, scaruffi's doesn't

>> No.41295401

>>41295372
I agree that it is unlikely, but that does not mean that I think it is a lie. What I believe in this gray zone is up to my discretion and >muh opinions.

>It doesn't help his case that the essay is not only littered with silly opinions and biases, rather than analysis and facts, but also bloated with factual errors.
While it doesn't help, it also is not relevant to whether he is telling the truth or not. Factual errors certainly make me personally less likely to take any of the essay seriously (which I didn't in the first place, thank goodness).

All I'm sayin is believe what you want to believe until solid proof one way or another is brought to light, at which point thinking the opposite in light of evidence becomes rather silly.

Or keep believing what you want, in which case more power to you.

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need an update to this gif

>> No.41295449

>>41294279
... but it's not nearly THAT bad
Yeezus seems like a misunderstood album, I believe it will be looked back as the Kid A of hip hop in a couple decades

>> No.41295466

>>41295401
>it also is not relevant to whether he is telling the truth or not.
You're suggesting that an essay full of factual errors and poor research would ever be rewarded international awards for professionalism.

The likeliness of Scaruffi telling the truth is so exceptionally small that there should be no evidence required to assume that it is bogus and fiction. You also do not prove a negative, you ask for evidence and when it is not presented or possible to present you assume the position that the claim is false.

>> No.41295468

>>41295449
fucking lol

>> No.41295499

fuckin scroof are u fucking kidding
>watch the throne
>better that yeezus

what the fuck

>> No.41295501

>>41295466
>You're suggesting that an essay full of factual errors and poor research would ever be rewarded international awards for professionalism.
I'm saying

wait for it

"It's possible but I don't think it's likely, however I acknowledge that it not being likely does not make it untrue and I use my personal discretion to choose whether I believe it or not"

>> No.41295504

>listening to meme rap in the first place
lol

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>>41295449

>> No.41295521

>>41295501
>it also is not relevant to whether he is telling the truth or not.
That's what you said. And it is extremely relevant, because no comity in history would ever award anything for professionalism if it's full of glaring factual errors and poor research -- the literal opposite of professional.

>> No.41295551

>>41295521
>because no comity in history would ever award anything for professionalism if it's full of glaring factual errors and poor research

"It's possible but I don't think it's likely, however I acknowledge that it not being likely does not make it untrue and I use my personal discretion to choose whether I believe it or not"

I really don't understand what's so hard about this phrase, I appreciate that you haven't started attacking me personally but it seems to be a very straightforward message that isn't being understood.

>> No.41295557

>>41295499

WTT is just a shiny rap album without a serious pretension to be anything more than it's able to be. That's why it wins over Yeezus.

>> No.41295576

>scruffy is wrong because he is a old white dude
>pitchfork is right because they are a bunch of white hipsters

Kanyefans.jpg

>> No.41295579

>>41294293
2deep4sccuffy

>> No.41295583

>>41295551
>shifting the goalposts
It is relevant to whether he is telling the truth or not. Your extremely reductionist view of the world can be taken to its extreme and you can simply say that nothing is ever true or false, you just chose to believe it is. There is no such thing as evidence, because it requires already that you believe in the evidence to be true.

Fuck off.

>> No.41295597

>>41295511
>uh huh honey ;^)

>> No.41295601

>>41295597
epic

>> No.41295611

>>41295583
>nothing is ever true or false, you just chose to believe it is
Whether you can prove something true is completely irrelevant to whether it is true, the only thing it changes is whether you can feel safer in believing it

>extremely reductionist
In what way?

>shifting the goalposts
Not at all. You've been missing my point the entire time, and I've been attempting to re-state it so you can better understand but that's failing to work.

>Your extremely reductionist view of the world can be taken to its extreme
How is this relevant?

>Fuck off.
Why are you so upset?

>> No.41295640

>>41295611
>Whether you can prove something true is completely irrelevant to whether it is true
No, objective truth does not exist in a world were assumptions can not be made, which is the kind of philosophy you're trying to paint here. The synopsis of your ridiculous thinking quickly becomes that only subjective reality exists and is projected based on your own beliefs.

>> No.41295687

>>41295640
>No
Yes, actually. A fact is a fact and whether you can personally prove it is irrelevant to whether or not this fact is a fact. I should add in something like "whether you can prove it at the current time" But I think you understand what I'm trying to say.

>assumptions can not be made
I said I prefer to not think like that, not that you can't think like that

That being said, what problem do you have with what I am saying, and where is the flaw in my conclusions about how I personally believe something?

>> No.41295698
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41295698

http://thetalkhouse.com/reviews/view/lou-reed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdbtL9__eNI

>> No.41295702

>embarrassing sociopolitical analysis

I'm glad scruffie understands industrialized racism.

Oh wait, he doesn't, because he's a rich white guy.

>> No.41295711

>>41295687
>A fact is a fact
A fact is only a fact in objective reality, which requires the assumption that objective reality exists in the first place. This assumption takes place within your subjective reality.

Facts and evidence only exist if you believe they do. When you're making assumptions about objective reality, you should make them as likely as possible. Scaruffi's awards are far from likely.

>> No.41295742

>>41295702
>Implying Kanye did a good job lyrically on this album

>> No.41295750

>>41295711
>This assumption takes place within your subjective reality.
You mean the one that you fabricated and then stated I lived in?

>Scaruffi's awards are far from likely.
I AGREE.
"It's possible but I don't think it's likely, however I acknowledge that it not being likely does not make it untrue and I use my personal discretion to choose whether I believe it or not"

I don't think he's telling the truth. I do not confuse this for knowing whether he is telling the truth or not.

There exists a fact of whether he is telling the truth or not, but I can't prove this fact. That does not change the fact.

Sweet jesus we believe the same end result (that he isn't telling the truth), we're just arguing about the way we came to the conclusions here

What is the problem?

>> No.41295756

>>41295750
>You mean the one that you fabricated and then stated I lived in?
Do you even know what subjective reality means?

This is a serious question, because if the answer is "No", "I have some idea but never read about it" or "Maybe", this discussion is pointless.

>> No.41295757

>>41295702
and kanye is a rich black guy

>> No.41295767

>>41295756
Why are you changing the subject?

>> No.41295772

>>41295767
I'm not changing the subject. This is a discussion on communications theory and philosophy. If you don't understand what we're talking about, the discussion fills no purpose.

>> No.41295781

KTT has discovered scruffers and this review

>> No.41295802

>>41295781
Tha place is hilarious.

Its funny to see all the hardcore kanye fans do a shit ton of mental gymnastics to try defend what a terrible person kanye is.

>> No.41295828

>>41295802
He is a great person though.............

>> No.41295831

>>41295781
Proof that Kanye fans are fucking retarded
http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/index.php?topic=577993.msg28777255;topicseen#new

>> No.41295851

>>41295828
Hes canceled like a gazzlion shows on his yezzus tour and has said nothing about it, while all the people who payed for tickets wasted their money.
Hes a self absorbed twat.

>> No.41295855

>>41295772
>I'm not changing the subject.

Except you are, I asked what the problem is and you are changing the subject to something that will either allow you to leave or force me to admit to a mistake (which yes, that statement made no sense, I should have taken a second to fully understand what you were saying before writing something stupid).

What are you trying to prove?

>> No.41295859

>>41294588
am i the only one who feels that even all that people works on the album, sounds like someone with a mac+bitch with good voice+decent rapper could do the same?

I mean, it's good, but it doesn't sound like all that amount of people were working on the lp

>> No.41295861
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41295861

>>41295851
his team responded

>> No.41295870

>>41295859
Imagine if kanye got a decent rapper on it. Could have been an alright album

>> No.41295874

viral

>> No.41295875

>>41295861
nice customer service right there

>> No.41295876

>>41295855
>Except you are, I asked what the problem is and you are changing the subject
No, I'm confirming whether or not you actually understand what I'm explaining to you, which clearly you don't as you don't know what subjective versus objective reality means, and that has been a central point of my arguments.

>> No.41295885

>>41295861
more like
>kanye cant handle having low ticket sales so he made something up about a cracked screen.

Bitch you dont need a screen to perform.

>> No.41295897

>>41295851
No, he postponed 5 shows because his 60 foot LED screen broke and is currently being rebuilt.
Fucking retard

>> No.41295913

>>41295885
No, he doesn't (I don't think you've seen it and how amazing it is though), but Kanye would never do a show without the tiniest detail missing.
I don't think any true artist would.

>> No.41295929

>>41295876
Why have you failed to answer questions I have asked you?

I understand what subjective reality is and I understand what objective reality is.

Please state what you are trying to express to me in one post.

>> No.41295930

Why the fuck would you ever consider Metal Machine Music an 8/10? It's even worse when you remember that a Scruffy 8/10 is like a 9.5/10 anywhere else.

>> No.41295931

>>41295897
>>41295885

>> No.41295948

>>41295930

Because MMM is in fact not only good but avantgarde

>> No.41295954

>>41295931
And the evidence of that being true is...?
There's already solid proof that the screen actually broke, holy fuck the ignorance is high in this thread.

>> No.41295956

>>41295930
Because is was pretty unheard of at the time.

>> No.41295958

>>41295913
No amount of screens will make a bad show good

>> No.41295959

>>41295929
>Why have you failed to answer questions I have asked you?
I have.
>I understand what subjective reality is and I understand what objective reality is.
Clearly not, see above.
>Please state what you are trying to express to me in one post.
I already have. Read the thread.

Please just stop posting, you're in way over your head right now.

>> No.41295969

>>41295958
>Yeezus Tour
>Bad Show
looooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>> No.41295973

>>41295969
Sick denial brah

>> No.41295974

>>41295954
You dont need a fucking screen to perform, thats clue number one.

>> No.41295986

>>41295973
Were you there?
>>41295974
No, again, you don't.
But it sure adds to the experience, and that's what Kanye is about.

>> No.41295991

But he also gave Kayne two 7.5s, which for him is a pretty big deal. I can't respect his opinion on anything besides strange rock music.

>> No.41295997

>>41295986
Unfortunately, yes

>> No.41295998

>>41295974
But his music isn't interesting on it's own so he needs it.

>> No.41296004

>>41295997
Well what was wrong with it?

>> No.41296008

>>41295959
>I have

see:
>>41295611
In which you failed to answer three questions

and

>>41295687
In which you failed to answer two questions

and
>>41295750
In which you failed to answer one question

>Clearly not, see above.
I have stated that I do, whether or not you believe me is irrelevant to whether I do or not.

>I already have. Read the thread.
I've already proven you wrong. Read the thread.
(see how that doesn't help?)

>Please just stop posting, you're in way over your head right now.
lol

>> No.41296010

>>41296004
I don't know what I expecting. I don't know why I went at all. It was exactly what I thought it would be

>> No.41296014

>>41295997
Melisandre is that you?

>> No.41296026

>>41295986
So kanye isnt about performing his music?
He is about giant lcd screens?

Exactly what i said earlier.
Mental gymnastics.

Kanye is a twatttttttttt

>> No.41296048

>>41296010
How about you tell me what was wrong with it instead of spewing shit that's making it seem more and more like you're Kanye hater who has only seen a few YouTube videos of the concert.
>>41296026
Why can't he be about both?

>> No.41296065

>>41296048
No thanks, I don't really want to have a conversation with you.
Thanks for offering I guess.

>> No.41296068

>>41296008
>In which you failed to answer three questions
All of them are answered in my reply.
>>41296008
>In which you failed to answer two questions
There's only one question in your post, and it was also answered.
>>41296008
>In which you failed to answer one question
Same deal again, it was answered.
>I have stated that I do, whether or not you believe me is irrelevant to whether I do or not.
You have made the claim that you do, while demonstrating that you actually don't. This makes you pretentious as defined by the dictionary.
>I've already proven you wrong. Read the thread.
You haven't proven anything. All you've done is shown that your subjective reality does not allow for assumptions and thus evidence can not exist for anything. This also means that you can not believe in a projected objective reality, making the entire discussion pointless from a pragmatic perspective.

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41296071

>>41296048
>hater

>> No.41296090

>>41295948
>MMM
>good
It's influential, but that doesn't make it any less shit.

>> No.41296099

>>41296065
Yeah, thought so.
>>41296071
I knew someone would say something about that.
Couldn't think of a different word in the moment.

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41296100

>>41294293
I don't like Scruffles, but he's right this time.

>> No.41296103

>>41296090

MMM is good to some people (including me). Opinions etc

>> No.41296110

>>41296048
Because his music is fucking terrible and he needs a giant lcd screen to overcompensate for it.

>> No.41296112

>>41296099
>Couldn't think of a different word in the moment.
This isn't a race. You can think of what you want to say, and then post.

>> No.41296124

>>41296110
Well that's your opinion.
>>41296112
I know, thank you.

>> No.41296131

>>41296124
You're most welcome.

>> No.41296144

>>41296124
No, its a fucking fact, an no amount of money kanye pays to pitchfork will not make it untrue.

Any other fucking band or rapper or whtever would have been all "yo, sorry about the delay were on it"

Kanye "muh screen"

>> No.41296153

>>41296099

>Couldn't think

Yep, this characterizes every retard.

>> No.41296165

>>41296144
Calm down.
It's an opinion, a shitty one.
You sound like an obnoxious bitch.
Goodbye.

>> No.41296169

>>41296068
I'm just not going to bother with your first three quote greentexts for the sake of not dragging this out. We disagree and I'm not going to attempt to change your mind on those any further.

How about this.


If you state what you have been trying to express to me in one post, I will save that post. If I truly do not understand what you are trying to say, I will state that for whatever reason I do not currently understand, and I will then do the work necessary to comprehend what you are saying.

If you do not want to do this then do not respond, believe that I am dumb, flame me whenever I post, do whatever you want.

Or reply with something sassy and say "but I already answered it"

TL;DR: I want to understand what you are trying to express. Say it in one post, and I will do what I can to understand. If you value being right over my understanding then you do not need to do this.

>> No.41296178

>>41296165
>i cant think of an argument so ill runaway

lel kanye fans

>> No.41296201

>>41296178
I don't want to argue, I already have anyway and as much as I enjoy it at times, it doesn't go anywhere; especially with people like you.
and I'm V tired.
Nighty night <3

>> No.41296205

>>41296178
What argument? Don't pretend that saying "he's fucking shit it's a fact" is an argument.

You made a statement that you backed with no evidence.

>> No.41296229

>>41296205
this.

now night night for real

>> No.41296252
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41296252

I'm not a huge fan of Yeezus, but this review is completely out of character from Scruff
>"cool but nothing we haven't heard before"
>writing in the first person
>this album feels terribly old, like most granpas
>Maybe this album was only meant as a self-mocking joke?
why has Scruff's style changed so much in recent reviews, this and MBV for example?

>> No.41296275

>>41296169
Scaruffi makes a ridiculous claim, and the logical assumption is that it is not true. This assumption gains credibility because of the lack of evidence to suggest that the claim is true, even when directly asked for it. You respond by saying "but we cannot know without evidence!" It is an assumption. Our world is based upon the assumption that things are true, and these assumptions are supported by evidence that in itself requires the assumption that it is true.

Following your line of logic, you can not demand evidence because evidence in itself is based on assumptions. This demand for evidence is made even more ridiculous because it is asking to prove a negative. Negatives are assumed to be incorrect until proven (read: supported by other assumptions) otherwise. Within your subjective reality, evidence can not exist. You project this subjective reality as your objective reality. However, objective reality requires assumptions, which means this objective reality is a direct contradiction to your subjective reality.

There are more things to be said about your considerations about "believing", its relation to assumptions and subjective/objective reality, even institutionalization is relevant here, but I'm not going to summarize an entire university class.

>> No.41296282

>>41296205
My opnion is fact and you are a faggot.
Lel

>> No.41296286

>>41296282
Epic, bro.

Simply epic.

>> No.41296287

>>41296282
>typical kanye hater

>> No.41296298

>>41294293
Why do people care about this guy's opinions? This review could've been by anyone on RYM.

At least p4k and Fantano are pretentious enough that their reviews are typically interesting.

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41296352

>>41296275
I sincerely appreciate you playing along with me and typing that out man.

For whatever reason, I do not understand your statements to accept them as truth. Trusting that you know more about this than I do, I will do what is necessary to make the connections.

If you still care (which would be weird and I don't expect you to) whether I understand and you see me posting just ask and I'll post this screencap and we can talk about it in a more mature and polite way than we have been doing because we will be at a more even level of understanding of the subject.

That being said, It's 6:00am, I've been awake for a very long time, and I need to sleep. I'm sorry you think I've wasted your time because I will certainly benefit from looking farther into what you've been saying.

Have a good one

>> No.41296367

>>41296298
... because his taste is impeccable?
same reason no one cares about you, actually

>> No.41296370

>>41296352
* I'm sorry if you think

off to bed

>> No.41296377

>>41296298
He's a figurehead for avant-teens everywhere.


>>41296367
Like this faggot.

>> No.41296383

>>41296352
I don't post much, but have a look at this book. It is far and beyond the most popular book on the subject and is used in (I believe) almost all introductory courses to communications theory. It deals a lot with subjective and objective reality.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Social-Construction-Reality-Sociology/dp/0385058985

>> No.41296401

>>41296377
Yeah, the avant-teens who love My Bloody Valentine, Minutemen, and Bruce Springsteen.... Oh wait that just sounds like someone who listens to music... My bad, I'll retract that statement for you.

>> No.41296426

>>41296383
If that's what it will take then I will do that. Thank you for the rec, it will make this much easier.

Seriously, have a good one dude.

>> No.41296481

>>41296367
Not any less so than the average RYM user, from what i can tell.

>> No.41296485

>>41296401
Yeah, they also love Trout Mask Replica, Faust, and other such shit too, right?

I can cherry pick examples too, fuckwit.

>> No.41296486

>>41294824
Some guy I know sent him a list of books to read/add to his literature section, and immediately after that he added them.

>> No.41296492

>>41296485
why you gettin defensive, son?

>> No.41296516

>>41296485
So he likes a variety of music regardless of social compromise?

Thanks for proving my point, try again tomorrow :)

>> No.41296525

>>41296516
:)

>> No.41296558

>>41296516
He likes avant-garde rock music that little retards, such as yourself, then begin listening to because you view him as an authority figure of some sort for no real reason.

But you know, you can continue to think you're real clever, that's fine too.

>> No.41296594

>>41296558
he likes a wide variety of rock music, so to claim that he caters to one specific group is really silly. I thought we established this when you said >>41296485 but I guess you forgot about that? It's fine, this 'maintaining a consistent position' business is pretty tiring.

>> No.41296649

did no one catch
>grandpa
>nephew
lel

>> No.41296690

>>41296594
I don't even know what I was arguing. I actually share a lot of scaruffi's favorite albums.

I've just been really grumpy lately, I apologize.

>> No.41296695

Damn, Kanye fans are assblasted.

>> No.41296710

>>41296695
most kanye fans agree that yeezus was shit

>> No.41296715

scaruffi is a better reviewer and has a better scoring system than pitchfork and fantano

>> No.41296754

>>41295380
>Daft Punk
>Electro
what?

>> No.41296790

>>41294628
are you serious? the guy was a renowned producer before he even released his first album.

>> No.41296801

>>41294628
>>41294601
most of the credits are from samples you fucks

>> No.41296855

>>41296715
Doesn't make him a good reviewer, though.

>> No.41296865

>>41296790
Then why does he need multiple producers now?

>> No.41296866

I 100% agree with this review, it's like kanye didn't even try. 10 tracks, he only produced about 5, even the, I doubt he even really had much to do with the production. All he had to do was write good lyrics, but he failed in that too. I consider myself a kanye fan, but after the hype died down, I realized this album wasnt that special compared to his previous work

>> No.41296904

>>41295851
did the same thing to adelaide bdo a few years ago

>> No.41296909

>>41296865
to make a better album? most of the production credits are just extra hands to help record several vocals at once, mic set up/placement, etc.

>> No.41296911

>>41296865
His vision is too great to be captured by one man

also, surrounding yourself with friends while you work is fun and nice

>> No.41296944

>>41296904
the thought of kanye west being in adelaide is hilarious to me

>> No.41296965

scaruffi seems genuine to me

he isnt afraid to pan shit that is getting great ratings and he isnt afraid to give good ratings to albums that other reviewers wont even touch. at least he has an opinion of his own

>> No.41296972

>>41295851
>canceled like a gazzlion shows on his yezzus tour and has said nothing about it, while all the people who payed for tickets wasted their money

Postponed until further notice. If the shows are cancelled, he's not the one handling the money. The ticket company will make sure everyone gets their money back.

>> No.41296978

>>41296909
I don't think you know what production is
>>41296911
If he really was as talented as you claim, he'd be able to do it all himself. See: Brian Wilson, Frank Zappa, etc

>> No.41297053

>>41296978
You ever think that maybe he wanted to collaborate with all these different artists?

>> No.41297075

>>41296978
Kanye's stuff has always been extremely collaborative, he always brings in many different people on his projects.

But I guess the end result doesn't matter if he's not an Auteur or some some bullshit.

>> No.41297086

>>41294293
>Bound 2
>simply a lame tribute to soul music

uh huh honey

>> No.41297090

>>41296965
yeah but he doesn't see it as opinion he sees it as the objective truth, which is where he's wrong.

>> No.41297096

>>41294448
how come he gets round to reviweing so late?

>> No.41297125

>>41297053
As apposed to "needed to"?

Nope.

>> No.41297134

>>41297096
He barely listens to new music, he just puts out the occasional review (most likely panning a hyped album).
He's into dadrock, only the patrician side of dadrock.

>> No.41297140

>>41297096

He does reviews in his spare time from travelling n shit.

>> No.41297167

>>41294305
>I thought the album sucked but gave it an upper-tier rating anyway

>> No.41297195

>says it's too sloppy
>thinks trout mask replica is the greatest album of all time

lol nope. this guy is an oldfag.

>> No.41297208

>>41297195
haha that is a good one

>> No.41297212

>>41296965
>at least he has an opinion of his own
this seems to intimidate a lot of people

>> No.41297221

>>41294639
#infinite buttravage

love it anon. post moar.

>> No.41297236

#REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT #REKT

>> No.41297238

>>41294279
Scaruffi is a dipshit.

>> No.41297253

Even Indicud was better than Yeezus, the review failed to mention how old the "Kanye loves himself" joke has become but the last line might be on to something.

>> No.41297260

oh come on guys, Scaruffi doesn't know shit. He probably reviews every single album he listens to per year. Meaning, he doesn't listen to music and his opinion isn't really worthwhile. How is he going to interview say a modern hip hop movement without hearing the context of a zillion trap beat based shits floating around?

Fantano >

>> No.41297262

>>41297253
>Even Indicud was better than Yeezus

Now that's just retarded

>> No.41297271

ITT rapfags who enjoyed spamming Scruffy copypasta suddenly buttravaged

>> No.41297288

>>41295199
that was a joke you retard. he only included the piece about receiving awards in response to people from /mu/ incessantly spamming his review. prior to that, there was no mention of it.

>> No.41297296
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41297296

/mu/ bases its taste in music around some random fucking weblogger

>> No.41297297
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>>41297262
just retarded enough to be true

>> No.41297309

>>41296965
Yeah he's genuinely retarded.

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41297317

>>41297296
Anon posts a very obvious statement everyone is aware of

>> No.41297394

>>41296401
Avant-teens do like My Bloody Valentine, Joy Division, krautrock and stuff like that, though.

>> No.41297399

>>41297125
>Nope.

try it

>> No.41297413

>>41297394
what the fuck does krautrock have to do with joy division or my bloody valentine what the fuck? log off right now

>> No.41297419

>>41297195

He covered that:

>cool but nothing we haven't heard before

Enough said I think. You're wrong, Scruffy is right.

>> No.41297426

>>41294279
yeah? well he hasn't reviewed magenta circuit yet

>> No.41297434

>>41297413
Avant-teens are post-Scaruffy drones.

>> No.41297440

>>41294322
You for real?

>> No.41297452

>>41297413
my bloody valentine are krautrock influenced

>> No.41297454

>>41297426

That will be 10. Screencap now.

>> No.41297455

>>41294279
Why people care about this fagget?

>> No.41297463

>>41297394

A lot of people like that shit, if avant-teens like it, cool, but they aren't the majority of people that like it.

>> No.41297475

>>41297455
Didn't you know? Scaruffi has viral marketers placed all over the internet defending his opinions as objective and shit.

In 2006 it was listology, in 2012-2013 it is /mu/.

>> No.41297483

>>41297455

Rectumwrenched Kanye dickrider in action right here.

>> No.41297493

>>41297483
Nice madhominem.

>> No.41297497

his reviews of the flaming lips stuff are pretty cool, actually
i've never actually read one of his reviews before

>> No.41297500

>>41297475
Sounds disgusting

>>41297483
>This people don't like Scaruffi
Hurr..Durr.. This guy must be Kanye ball licker.

>> No.41297501

>>41297452
more like Jesus and Mary Chain influenced

>> No.41297528

I hope he wrecks Monomania. What a disappointment that was.

>> No.41297541
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41297541

http://www.scaruffi.com/music.html
https://www.google.com/search?q=NMC+AWARD+FOR+MUSIC+TASTE&oq=NMC+AWARD+FOR+MUSIC+TASTE&
https://www.google.com/search?q="new+music+central+musical+excellence"+scaruffi

Haha. What the fuck is this bullshit?

>> No.41297546

>>41297483
Rectumwrenched Piero Scaruffi dickrider in action right here.

>> No.41297552

>>41297541
>https://www.google.com/search?q=NMC+AWARD+FOR+MUSIC+TASTE&oq=NMC+AWARD+FOR+MUSIC+TASTE&
should be

https://www.google.com/search?q="NMC+AWARD+FOR+MUSIC+TASTE"

>> No.41297588

>>41294293
I guess we finally found an album that is 2deep4scaruffi

>> No.41297607

>>41297541

Looks like one of those web awards people used to hand out in the late '90s early '00s

>> No.41297630

>>41297588
indeed we have

>> No.41297644

It's a fun album but I see his point, it's very forgettable.

>> No.41297656

>>41297541
>someone who thinks Have One On Me is the best album of the decade so far
>taste

>> No.41297670

>>41297541

NMC probably isn't around anymore, you realize how old his website is right?

>> No.41297681

>>41297670
scruffy defense force pls go.

>> No.41297753

>>41297656
it's a good one, not my pick but it's arguable

>> No.41297975

>>41294363
>sunbather 6.5
oh wow. at first i was like damn maybe I'm stupid for liking yeezus. but fuck that a 6.5 for sunbather really invalidates scruffs for me
>>41294400
>wow, newfags in 2013 wtf..
are you waiting for big brother /mu/ to pat you on the back and congratulate you? no one cares how long you've been here

>> No.41298016

>>41297975

Sunbather isn't actually that great. It's an average record, there is nothing wrong with liking average records.

>> No.41298027

>>41294543
kek. this is a reasonable opinion. i think mu only likes him because he shits on everything, and people here hate a lot more music than they like

>> No.41298029

>>41297975

6.5 isn't bad at all in Scruffy's scale.

>> No.41298033

>rationally discussing YEEZUS

>> No.41298073

>>41298027
>this is a reasonable opinion
It's not, it was cancelled by >>41294639

>> No.41298074

anything to stay relevent, eh scruffy

>> No.41298243

>>41296065
your fucking moron. why are you on a music board if you refusing to talk about music? maybe thats a conversation you'll be willing to have you human trash

>> No.41298260

>>41296099
hey anon i just want u to know I'm on your side, these guys are just typical uptight contrarian who only dislike kanye for the sake of going against the grain

>> No.41298280

>>41296965
sounds more like a contrarian to me. he's disagreeing with people just so they'll think he knows something they dont

>> No.41298295

>>41298243

Not wanting to have a stupid and pointless conversation doesn't mean you don't ever want to discuss anything.

>> No.41298391
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41298391

>>41295420
there you go bby

>> No.41298468

>>41298391
very excellent

>> No.41298527

>>41298280
I don't think he's a contrarian at all. /mu/core albums like Loveless, NMH, and MBDTF he all gave great scores.

>> No.41298543

>>41298029
6.5 and above is good from him. If an album gets a 7.5 it's usually called a 'masterpiece' for that artist's discography.

>> No.41298971

>>41297140
What's scruffles doing for money anyway?

>> No.41298983

>>41297452
Most things are.

>> No.41299279

>>41297475
I refuse to believe that this guy can bribe anybody to promote him like this, and it amuses me to no end imaging some autistic blogger relentlessly posting about himself on an image board.

>> No.41299453

>>41296485
And what's wrong with either of those albums

>> No.41300056

>>41297588
2shit4scaruffi more like it

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