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lol yeah pretty much

you have to get into a certain mindset or itll feel like its just dragging on forever

nightmare mode: no bathroom breaks

CD 3 > CD 1 > CD 2

Das da best track mane

I couldn't get through it on my first listen, it was too much for me. It really grew on me with repeated listens though. I'd recommend taking it a disc at a time if you can't handle the whole two hours

>>37541641
It's okay I already love it and have listened a few times
Which is why it's all the more telling that I still make this mistake I think

>>37541630

>MUH KINGFISHER

CD 2 > CD 3 > CD 1

>>37541590
>mfw I've only listened to the first six tracks and haven't even bothered moving to the other twelve

>>37541626
It's two hours long! Do you have a prostate problem or something?

>>37541667
>hasn't heard go long, autumn, on a good day, occident
herp

>>37541590
Yeah, her stuff can be kind of an intense listen on your first time. Not the most memorable stuff because of that, too.

>>37541735
Hmm I think maybe that's true of some of her more meandering compositions but I have little melodies of hers stuck in my head allll the time

Joanna Newsom got BUTT, huh?

Seriously, It's only two hours. Haven't you seen the newest Batman film? That thing was 165 minutes.

>captcha: you ningning

>>37541765
One of her most memorable songs for me from Ys was Cosmia, and it's mainly because it was very basic in relation to most of the other work on that album. Emily, at least halfway through when things begin colliding, becomes very hard to follow and remember because of the shifts in chord progression and the tempo of her playing.

>>37541712
do you hav a brian problen?

lmoa fukn ownt

>>37541821
Yeah I agree. I get that tuney bit from sawdust and diamonds stuck in my head too

>>37541851
He has a point. 2 hours in between bathroom breaks isn't bad.

>>37541630
>>37541663
CD 1 > CD3 > CD 2

Looks like we all have completely different opinions lol.

>>37541901
That can't be right, there's only one right opinion.

>listening to Soundtracks for the Blind
you can finish this one yourself

>>37541898
only if you go to the bathroom before you listen to an album. who the fuck thinks to do that?

>>37541981
JoNew fans

>>37541965
The length isn't what made it a grueling listen for me, it was the drastic shift in song styles.

>>37541981
I only have to go to the bathroom once every few hours because I don't overhydrate or drink 10 more cokes than my bladder can accommodate.

What the heck

>>37541981
Do people actually use the bathroom multiple times in a day?
I usually only have to go to the bathroom once per day.
Y'all cowards got weak bladders or some shit.

>>37542007
This pretty much. I don't understand people who have to piss like every 30 minutes. Do people seriously buy into the "must drink 15 large glasses of water per day to be healthy" bullshit?

>>37542048
I don't think it's just that. I have a lot of water, a lot more than other people seem to drink, but your body responds better to water better than cokes. So unless you're drinking 4 gallons a day, you shouldn't be going to the bathroom this much, unless you ARE drinking predominantly soft drinks, which DOES make you wanna piss more.

>>37542047
i use the washroom upwards of 10 times a day

i barely eat though so im just taking a piss. i drink a lot of coffee, water and alcohol

>>37542047
try drinking some water every once in awhile.

>>37541590
>listening to Ys for the for the first time
>20 minute folk songs
>mfw

>>37542113
Yeah, alcohol will make you piss buckets.

>>37542120
Because music.
If you don't like folk though why did you try it

Joanna Newsom is the female Captain Beefhart mixed with the female Leonard Cohen, mixed with the female Bob Dylan.

i make that 19 replies until all joanna newsom discussion completely stopped and this thread became purely a discussion of how frequently we all have to pee. nice one /mu/.

>>37542185
I like Joanna Newsom but my biggest complaint is that all her songs drag on way too long in a genre that isn't usually supposed to have long songs

>>37542255
>genre that isn't usually supposed to have long songs
that's why she's good you plen

Have One On Me is supposed to be listened to similarly as a set of films would be listened to. It tells one tale but it's in three parts. You have to understand that this album fits on 2 discs already. There's a reason why each CD has 6 songs.

#teachingbitcheshowtoswim

>>37542255
Every artists who makes really long songs is opening themselves up for criticism on that front. I dunno, personally I find her compositions have more than enough melodies hidden in them to keep them interesting. And yeah that's why it's of interest over other folk I guess, in part.

>>37542255
>implying Joanna Newsom is folk
>implying she isn't freak folk

>>37542315
*would be watched

>>37542255
baby birch is like 9 minutes and its perfection in every way

>>37542315
good point friend thanks for pointing that out

>>37542309
>having long songs means you're better
wow
>>37542341
>implying

>>37542047
huh? you only piss once a day?

>>37542373
Not
>long=good
but
>breaking conventions can be inherently interesting if it is backed up by sound music

>>37542373

>>37542403
>implying it broke conventions in any way other than being long
>>37542408
I don't know what you're responding to, you might want to imply something here

>what is chamber folk

>>37542433

>>37541626
are you the same guy from this morning that drinks so much he can't go 2 hours without pissing?

>>37542373
no, she's good because she's one of the few folk artists who can make music that progresses enough to stay interesting for longer than a few minutes.

she's more of a musician's musician though, it's okay if you don't understand her music if you don't already have a decent knowledge of music theory.

>>37542433
When did I imply that? You're just trying to create arguments.

>>37542484
>2 hours w
not him but its more like 1 hour for me

>>37542495
>>breaking conventions can be inherently interesting if it is backed up by sound music

>>37542522
Yes that sentence literally doesn't mean or imply what you said.

>people calling Newsom a folk artist because she's a singer/songwriter

Lel.

>>37542545
More her use of instrumentation

>>37542538
What? You're saying she broke conventions but she didn't

>>37542255
Each of her songs have as much progression, shifts, melodies to be split into multiple songs. But that would defeat the beauty and flow of the songs. I never feel any song drag in the slightest. Though "Have One On Me" as a whole is a little daunting, and their isn't a distinct feel to most songs to keep you gripped.

>>37542576
She broke the convention of not having long songs, that is exactly what I was talking to you about in response to this guys original comment >>37542309

Anyway whatever

>>37541590
why is there so much photoshop on her face

she's not that ugly

>>37542566

That would be wrong as well. She plays chamber pop. You'll morons don't even understand what being a folk musician entails.

People who dislike Newsom have no idea of what a journey means. They have no sense of adventure.

>>37542626
sweeping generalizations general?

people who dont like vampire weekend are just depressed and emotionally closed off

>>37542613
>ignoring the justification >>37542489 because you know you're wrong

>>37542621
pop would imply a pop structure

>>37542621
What does being a folk musician entail

>>37542626

a journey through vocal nodes and dragon dildos wasn't really on my itinerary

>>37542669
wat I dont even understand what you're saying, that guy is stating my opinion and explaining it better.

>>37542657
People who like Vampire Weekend are redditors and want everyone else to be like them and will find any excuse to do so.

>>37542621
>Joanna Newsom
>Chamber Pop
Even if you ignore the fact that her music sounds nothing like Chamber Pop, save for a few of the more clambering, direct songs from Milk-Eyed Mender, she doesn't come close to the aesthetic or songwriting style that Chamber Pop musicians have.

>>37542709
lel

That's how I feel when watching Tarkovsky.

>>37542764
>you in charge of reading comprehension

>>37542830
>watching stalker having read the book
>exposition lasts for an hour
>when will it even start

liked the mirror and ivan's childhood a lot though

>>37543125
Stalker is possibly my favorite movie ever, haven't seen The Mirror or Ivan's Childhood yet. The Sacrifice was really something, too.
How's The Roadside Picnic compared to the film?

>>37541965
>Soundtracks for the Blind
That album just sucks.

>>37543300
It doesn't, but goddamnit why would anyone make an 2+ hours album?

youve got to hand it to her for making a TRIPLE album

>>37543252
i enjoyed the book more (i've read the original)

however i like strugatskie's satirical stuff (monday begins on saturday, for example) more than their other works, so this might be an exception

>>37543300
>>37543383

It shouldn't be approached like a conventional album to be listened to in one attentive sitting. Just enjoy Helpless Child and dip into the weird shit when you are in that kind of mood.

>listening to Autechre - Quadrange.ep
dead

>>37543504
>Just enjoy Helpless Child
But I didn't enjoy that song at all.

>>37543551
Then you might not like Angels of Light.

>>37543551
>not liking Helpless Child

what the fuck is wrong with you

>>37543651
It wasn't very good and i much prefer early Swans, what do you want of me?

>>37543383
Why would anyone make a 1 hour album?
Why would anyone make an album?

>>37543705
>what do you want of me?

taste

>>37543712
why would anyone make music?

>>37543866
So you want me to delete SFTB and your favortie album off my computer?
ok.

>>37541821
she did master polyrhythms while in high school

track 15 now guys jesus I think I might actually make it

>>37544620
>numbering tracks linearly when they are better represented in accordance with the logical (and physical structure) of the work; three discs

>>37543947
i mastered your momsrhythms while in highscool

>>37544620
keep us posted, we're dying to know

>>37544724
k bro don't worry

>>37544676
they are numbered by disc too bro bro don't worry

>listening to acid mothers temple album
>enjoying it
>think I'm about half way through but I'm not familiar with all of the tracks enough to know where exactly yet
>have a look at music player
>on track 2 of 3
>oh that's a relie-
>last track is 40 minutes

K it was good, 2 hours ain't so long

>>37543300
>into the trash it goes!

Currently on Good Intentions Paving Company.
I'm not finding it that difficult to listen to all the way through, it is truly massive but it's incredibly varied and consistently entertaining throughout
Seriously, how is Joanna not regarded as the greatest musician/artist of the 21st century? Noone else is making a two-hour long album and making it this engaging and thematically consistent throughout.

>>37547601
A lot of people are put off by her unusual and very untrained voice

>>37547639
she sounds pretty normal on HOOM though

Pleb general?

What's your favourite Good Charlotte album guys?
Mine is ' the Young and the Hopeless'

>>37547757
Yeah she has got it much more under control. She doesn't sell many records is another thing, maybe it's just she isn't well know enough? Dunno

>>37547777
wat

>>37547777

>>37547639
I don't get people who want singers to sound perfect all the way through sure some technique is always nice but the most emotional singers are mostly the untrained ones.

>>37547845
I agree personally

>>37547639
Untrained in the normal sense? Because she is a hellacious singer, in spite of her offputting, squeaky voice (at least pre-HOOM before the surgery). She hits every note and has a great range, though I have different ideas between a great "voice" and a great "singer".

There's something about Fiery Furnaces' bitter tea that make me squirmy as fuck.

I love it but I have to listen to it while cleaning or moving for some reason.

>>37547886
Yeah like you can see when she is performing she makes all sorts of shapes with her mouth to modulate her voice. You're "supposed" to do that with your throat

>>37543383
Think of it more like she released three separate but interconnected albums at once. Listen to the first disc, take a break, start the second one, etc.

>>37547913
You know the beginning of "Only Skin" where she hits this really weird note that kind of pierces your ear? I like singers that make me go "what the fuck?" Somewhat related, I like Avey Tare as a singer more than Panda Bear because of this.

>>37547945
Haha yes dat squeak

I like shit like that too, her wobbly untrained voice is the best that's part of why I love her too

>>37547945
God that part always gives me a mini orgasm

>>37547979
I have to be fair though, I kind of resent people who have been professionally trained, irrationally so. It's like a weird stigma for me.

>>37548024
Oh yeah I know what you mean, but I can certainly appreciate a well trained voice too, in the right context. There are plenty of musical situations where Joanna would probably ruin the band/sound/whatever if she were singing in them

>>37548099
Like a black soul group

>>37548120
top lel

>>37548099
>>37548120
Yeah, I hear you. I think an important aspect to consider is what voice works with what aesthetic. A sexy tenor voice isn't going to work well with most Folk music.

>>37548129
I'm just trying to imagine what her singing with The Supremes would sound like. It's awesome.

>>37548152
Yeah and that's part of why it's so magic when something like Jo appears I guess, it's not like she consciously put together all of the aspects of her writing style and her sound, they just happen to work so well serendipitously

>>37548199
>>37548120
was in reference to http://vimeo.com/12744936

>>37548271
She needs to make a guest appearance on the next Lonely Island.

>>37548337
No. Stop.

>listening to Joanna's album
>enjoying it
>'In California'
>'Is it only timing, that has made it such a dark hour?'
>KA KA KAAA KAAA
>look at the play time
>1:00:00
fucking joanna man

>>37548439
mind = blown

>listening to reverend bizarre's album
>enjoying it
>think I'm about half way through but I'm not familiar with all of the tracks enough to know where exactly yet
>have a look at music player
>on track 2 of 8

>>37548439
i never noticed this
this is amazing

lawn = mown

>>37548439
woah

>>37548439
Yeah I remember when I noticed this it was fucking glorious.

isnt Ys the better album though?

>>37548439
Damn.

>>37548798
I prefer it, but that's only because I feel like Have One On Me has more highs and lows than it does. Have One On Me is very ambitious for how long it is though. They're both great.

>>37548798
They're pretty different, could argue either way

>>37548798

Ys is excellent throughout but I don't think anything on Ys tops Go Long or On A Good Day.

>>37548798
>tfw I like TMEM much better than either
I love those vocals so much

>>37548798
To me, HOOM is vastly superior to Ys (which I do like).

One thing I don't like about HOOM is how in some parts it's really hard to hear the lyrics (like in parts of Easy and Kingfisher).

I like the Ys street band EP too, don't forget that

>>37549439
>not listening to Joanna Newsom while holding the lyrics sheet open like a storybook

>>37549439
Yeah it's not recorded quite as well is it

>>37549440

>>37549511
>>37549439
I think it was one of my main problems with HOOM. Structurally and in terms of production and performance, I can't find a lot of flaws with Ys. The thing that levels the playing field is that HOOM is more powerful, a lot more, but with gaps in emotion progression from song-to-song and that it feels underdeveloped in some songs. The best songs on HOOM are probably better than Ys, at least for me, but the worst were also much worst. Highs and lows, and I guess that's why I find HOOM equally interesting, because even if there are 6 songs you disliked, you have 12 more to pick from.

>>37549633
Yeah I think that sums it up pretty much. I am really excited about whatever she makes next, she has the potential to make something truly momentous, I hope she can pull it off

>>37549782
After HOOM i'm not really worried about Joanna being able to 'pull something off'. From an artistic standpoint, I think she's more than equipped to do pretty much anything she likes. I mean even things like >>37548439 (which has almost nothing to do with music) are a pretty good indication of her ability.

>>37547913
she does that to project feg. She has this habit of singing with her mouth to the side of her face because she had to project towards the audience and not to the massive harp in front of her.

>>37549782
>>37549902
Still crossing my fingers for an Andy Samberg collab, screw y'all.

>>37549962
Which produces hilarious results. People think she's mentally challenged because of this.

>>37542047
You're probably dehydrated

I drink a shit ton of water and piss like 4-5 times a day

why does everyone hate andy o much. Is he a dick, or is it just because he's fucking joanna?

>>37541965
I've tried to go through the whole thing 3 times and still haven't succeeded

I really like some of it but at the same time absolutely hate other parts

>>37550061
he's not that funny, idk, I don't have a problem with him, but I assume it's mostly the latter.

>>37550061

He's not talented enough to warrant his success.

>>37550061
I genuinely like him and Lonely Island. He's acted in some dogshit films though.

>>37541965

Now I feel like listening to it again.

Might as well, I'm in the mood.

>>37542621
To be fair Ys is pretty folk
It has banjo and jawharp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nb3117f8M4
I didn't even know there was someone playing a bottle on this song

>>37549633
I agree with this mostly. I think it depends on what you mean by which is 'best'. I could definitely see the argument that as a creative work Ys is better executed, but to me HOOM just has so much more to it - in length and in depth. True, not even song stands alone as stellar as they do on Ys, but if I could only take one to a desert island I would have to take HOOM.

>>37542615
it's a painting not a picture

>>37550061
I think there's this conception that Andy makes really shallow music and that it is highly unlikely that he fully appreciates everything Joanna does with her music. There's also the feeling that Joanna could do a lot better. Not to mention I should be fucking her not him

>>37548798
To me Ys will forever be her masterpiece

>>37542615
also it wouldnt be a JoNew album without a hideously garish cover

>>37550380
actually I remember reading that the cover was made by taking a black and white photo and then painting the color on

>>37550387

Making shallow music =/= being a shallow person. Not always.

Not defending Andy or anything, just saying.

>>37550387
>Not to mention I should be fucking her not him
lel

>>37550358
The reason Ys comes out on top for me most of the time is because it seems like a more concise and cohesive effort, not only on a song-by-song basis, but what she wanted the album specifically to sound like and what direction she wanted to take with the songwriting style. The trade-off there is that there is less variation because of the huge lengths of most songs on the album and the fact that it has so few songs. I guess my explanation is that I prefer albums that sound more like singular units instead of a compilation of ideas; that's what HOOM felt like to me at various points on the album.

>>37550461
I didn't mean it sound like I felt that way about him, I was just saying why I thought people hated him

>>37550511
Yeah, that's what I was trying to say; I can see why you prefer Ys (I used to), but I've listened to HOOM a million times and i'm basically still finding new things that to love about it

>>37550061
i'm jelly

>>37542048
yeah that whole 10 glasses of water thing was busted a little while ago. In fact it can be unhealthy for your blood I read somewhere

>>37550716
So am I if I'm being honest, and he's pretty easy to hate on

>>37550318
love watching her live videos. She's a great performer and it's so much easier to visualize and appreciate the composition when you're looking at everyone playing their instruments.

>>37550318
lel, her face is crazy when she sings

>>37551031
See >>37549985