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this hurts me

It wouldn't be the first time Rolling Stone has said or done something completely stupid, so it doesn't surprise me at all they would miss the point of these albums, too.

Like smoking a bowl.

By mentioning that Rolling Stone is completely irrelevant, written for and read by forty-five year olds who wear Vin-Diesel-in-XXX shades?

Stoner albums? No, that's Sublime and the like.
Albums to listen to whilst stoned? Fitting.

>>37047136
>>37047143
this

Rolling Stone is fucking ridiculous, surprising no one.

Fuck Rolling Stone and their weed obsession. Why does my family subscribe to that piece of shit rag.

Amnesiac is clearly the superior stoner album

xXx420BLAZEITPHAGOOTxXx

D I C K S E V E R Y W H E R E

>a shitty magazine made a shitty list
oh wow thanks for bringing this to my attention, op

list of albums you can listen to while stoned
>all albums
>literally any album

>>37047097
i think weed gave another magazine cancer

>>37047097
>ignoring the best album on the list

Here's their positions in the ranking:

Fleet Foxes - Fleet Foxes - 36
Sigur Rós - Ágætis byrjun - 35
Flaming Lips -Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots - 30
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless - 22
Talking Heads - Remain in Light - 18
DJ Shadow - Endtroducing . . . - 16
Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentleman We Are Floating in Space - 13
Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavillion - 8
Radiohead - Kid A - 6
Portishead - Dummy - 2

>>37047251
I apologize for my irresponsible actions, Mr. Tatas

>>37047097
Wot... That list makes no sense. All good albums, but I wouldn't listen to any of those high. i'd listen to dopethrone. Ironically, this happened. <--

>>37047448
Sorry, didn't mean ironically, meant coincidentally

>>37047199

p. much

I've listened to Skrillux high and I was into it. I wouldn't say I liked it but I found it interesting

when sobert, I can't stand it. fucking thing sucks

Albums that are fun to listen to when stoned = All of those albums, and pretty much every album ever

Albums that are made for stoners = none of those albums

>>37047253

Kid A is waaay too slow for me to listening when high

Where the fuck is Electric Wizard?

>not sparking up a fat bowl on a cold, dark night, alone in your tiny, shitty apartment in downtown Chicago while listening to Building Steam With a Grain of Salt

Heh.

>>37047253
>Portishead - Dummy

What the fuck? That's the kind of album you listen to when you're depressed or when you're driving to your shitty factory job at 5:30 AM before the sun rises on a rainy day.

dummy is amazing when ur buzzin

some would be great on psychedelics but weed no
also fleet foxes is sober as shit

robin pecknold has long hair and a beard so its a stoner band

>>37047253
>fleet foxes and sigur ros practically last

>We wanted albums that were especially great for blazing along with, but also just plain great, period – meaning they also had to sound awesome when you're not high as a giraffe.

So it's just a list of good albums?

>>37047253
What was 1

>Ágætis byrjun
>stoner

I read that and just stopped reading

>>37047774

It's Rolling Stone, brah. Personally, I'm surprised that people don't expect this sort of thing before reading their lists.

makes me not care because its just a bullshit list from some bullshit magazine trying to scope out what readers will think is interesting

i find this not pleasing at all, to put it lightly

imagine caring what the rolling stone does at all

>Top 40 Stoner Albums
>Not one Sleep album on list
>mfw

>>37047097
Noo, noiioi, nohhhh! That makes me sad. But I mean, the editors/writers probably don't even know what qualifies as 'stoner music' if that's even a music type to begin with, they're trying to seem musically knowledgable or fluent in different music terms but they obviously aren't.

>>37048076
i just hate that this faggots enjoy the same music as me.

>>37047448
Wow, that is so unlikely
wow shit

>>37047097
it's the same publication that called Burial - Untrue EDM; so I'm really not too worried about what they have to say

>rolling stone list
>OMG SO IRRELEVANT I HATE LED ZEPPELIN THE BEATLES AND THE WHO FUCKING DADROCK FFGHFJGSDHKHDF

>pitchfork review
>BNM OH SHIT GOTTA LISTEN RIGHT NOW SO GUD
>100+ posts of circlejerk

>/mu/

>>37048238
of course we do, p4k panders to /mu/s main demographics

>dsotm not number 1

I mean come on

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/the-40-greatest-stoner-albums-20130607

>bizarre ride II the pharcyde on the list
why?

Wow this pisses me off. Fuck Rolling Stone.

Not listed:
>XXYYXX-XXYYXX
>The Haxan Cloak- Excavation

>>37047531
>basic channel while stoned

thats dangerous

>>37047097
I don't care those are all trash.

>Paranoid
>No Master of Reality
>No Sleep's Holy Mountain
>No Dopesmoker
Seriously

these rolling stone lists always make me laugh

>choosing mpp out of all of ancos albums
confirmed for fucking plebs although we all already knew that

>Fleet Foxes
i literally fucking screamed

>>37048689
calm down bb

>>37047793
Axis: Bold As Love - Jimi Hendrix

>>37048720
thats shit too

>>37048089
Is Sublime on the list? That is THE stoner record. Every stoner I have ever met has liked sublime.

Not posting Kyuss- Welcome to Sky Valley

do you even burn breh?

>>37047608
>'re depressed or when you're driving to yo
Dummy is way too sad to listen to stoned.

>>37048288
I think the point is that RS looks like it's pandering to /mu/ now. They just recently mentioned Death Grips as if they'd been talking about them forever.

>>37048733
sure it is buddy

weed culture is disgusting also how is ladies and gentlemen anything but a heroin album

>>37048749
Maybe they realized they should talk about new music?

>>37047608
All of my this.

>>37047793
The same thing Rolling Stone always puts as number 1, Dark Side of the Moon.

>smoking marijuana at all

>>37048775
DSOTM was #3. #1 was Axis: Bold As Love

It makes me feel like the writers of Rolling Stone have never gotten high, ever.

Seriously, listening to something like Loveless when I'm high is like having a swarm of knives dig into my eardrums.

I don't know what you guys are like, but if it's not at a slow tempo and somewhat calm sounding then I feel like my head's about to explode.

>>37048787
>/v/

Lol

>>37048775
Actually, people are pissed how low that album is on their 500 Greatest Albums list.

>>37047097

shit, all my music is "stoner music", all my music sounds fucking awesome when im stoned, regardless if its metal, electronic, or whatever else.

>>37048769
If that's true, more power to them, but there seems to be too much /mu/core on that list to be a coincidence.

>>37048089
My same exact reaction

>>37048787
Christians

Always pushing their twisted version of morality where it's not wanted.

>and then go home and take Abilify to cope

>>37048812
All music sounds good stoned.

>>37048795
word. People say slacker rock shit like Dinosaur Jr. is good music to get high to, but all that distortion and feedback makes it a horrible experience.

>>37048775
It always pisses me off how Rolling Stone never gives any credit to any album made after 1985. You can always tell the number 1 spot on any list they make is going to be either Bob Dylan, the Beatles, or Pink Floyd.

It's like these people only listen to new music because it's expected of them.

>No Flower Travellin' Band - Satori

>>37048842
>>>/r/atheism

>>37048238
>>37048288
He anti p4k demographic on /mu/ is way larger than the p4k demographic itself.
Myself, I beleive everything christgau says, except for about king crimson.

Smoking weed and listening to MPP outdoors is a fucking experiece, specially if it's summer and you're at the beach

>>37048810
Yea Rolling Stone seems to hate Pink Floyd

>>37048893
Robert Christgau is an anus of the highest caliber, and you should form your own opinions.

>>37048886
Wow. What a rebuttal.

>>37048795
When stoned I like electric blues like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oQWVtbKEdw
And electronic like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39BirET8OIg

>>37048934
>implying that's what i said

They do, actually, if you read this:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/pink-floyd/albumguide

Douchebags.

>>37048869
11/10 would blaze with you

>>37048886
Not him, but again:
>/v/

Lol, so even among losers there are those who feel superior.

>>37048936
He's a proper jerk but his tone is so convincing and he can sum up my entire thoughts on and artit and more in 6 words. He's the perfect pop critic.

Bitches Brew, Remain in Light, Endtroducing, and Another Green World are also on there.

>>37048988
>giving a shit what critics think

It's a pretty bad list. It's just 40 albums that are fairly drug/culture related or popular in 'hipster' culture.

The fact it didn't include The Doors or Cypress Hill or Dopesmoker makes the list seem pretty bad.

>>37049012
>Remain in Light
>Endtroducing

Good thing you mentioned it, OP really seemed to forget those when he put them on the list.

>>37048948
you saw a post about potheads and started bashing christians, even though it had nothing to do with christianity. That sounds like something a ratheist would do.

>>37048972
I don't even go on /v/ so I don't see your point

>>37049025
>thinking you're some non-conformist individual who doesn't listen to other opinions

I agree with little of it. add Madvillainy jesus its only the best "stoner" rap

meh, not like i expected rolling stone to know anything about MF DOOM anyway

>>37048831
>he thinks anyone would bother pandering to /mu/
are you fucking serious dude? death grips aren't some /mu/specific phemonema

>>37048966
I had just smoked and started listening to em when I saw this thread haha

>There is no up or down
Your truth is the only master
Death is made by the living
Pain is only intense to you
The sun shines every day

>>37049054
/v/ is written on the comic. So the guy who made it made it for /v/.
>>37048787

>>37049188
>newfag pls leave

>>37048831
Yeah, they just go on pitchfork and steal opinions from it.

>>37048966
I had just smoked and started listening to em when I saw this thread haha

>There is no up or down
Your truth is the only master
Death is made by the living
Pain is only intense to you
The sun shines every day

potheads dont listen to music

>>37049054
>you saw a post about smoking pot and started bashing people for their personal choices, even though it has nothing to do with you. That sounds like something a Christian would do.

>>37049340
#uberrekt

>>37049340
>star wars: knights of the told republic

>>37049340
Grow up bro, stop bashing Christians. Have you been an atheist for like a day? It is perfectly understandable to believe in bullshit like they do if it makes them feel better. I freaked out on a daily basis for years as to what is reality, why are we here, etc. Now I'm just a deist.

>>37049340
>implying

>>37049378
KoToR was such a fucking good game.

>tfw Battlefront 3 is gonna get buttfucked by EA and Dice.
>tfw 1313 got cancelled
>tfw it was the only star wars game i had actually looked forward to in a long time

polite sage for off topic

>>37049302
I wish I had weed.

I have rolling papers, but I don't get paid for a few days yet, and I'm saving most of that up for a sweet '96 cherokee.

>them descriptions

Fleet Foxes - S/T

"Conjuring guitar mass at the Church of Our Lady of Green Bud, this thickly bearded debut opens with what sounds like a wake-and-bake congregation harmonizing about a "red squirrel in the morning" and going on to sing of hummingbirds, meadowlarks and laughing children amid a swirl of strumming, flute-blowing and tambourine jiggling. Sublimely chill, the set flows like a brook; it can turn any inner-city weed-smoking party into a camping trip of the mind."

Did I completely miss the point of this album?

>>37049439
Has 1313 officially been cancelled? I was looking forward to it.

>smoking weed

just smoke cigarettes. legal and already rolled up and ready to blaze

>>37049462
Don't buy an old Chrysler, are you insane?

>>37049484
4.2/10

>>37049489
'96 cherokees are great and relatively cheap, man.

Gonna raise it and everything.

I love all of those records and I love getting stoned. So I'd say I'm ok with this. I'm sorry if anyone is bothered by the fact that people who enjoy pot like these albums too just kidding not really.

>>37049529
I just posted this to see how many indignant /mu/tants there'd be. I figured most of them don't think highly enough of RS to give half a shit.

I'm into electronic, hip-hop, experimental, indie and psychedelic, including:
Bird Mask, Foals, The Max Levine Ensemble, Danny Brown, Ab-Soul, Macintosh Plus, Blazo, INTERNET CLUB, Descendents, Aesop Rock, Tame Impala, Foster the People, SAINT PEPSI, Growing Up Pagan, GDP, Magic Jake and the Power Crystals, cLOUDDEAD, Magma, Alexander Quin, Mars Red Sky, BadBadNotGood, The Black Keys, Mrs. Magician, Rosa, Poolside, And So I Watch You From Afar, Death Grips, Interpol, A Tribe Called Quest, Flower Travellin' Band, The Fly-Bi-Nites, Blank Banshee, Oyster Tapes, Mirror, The Knife, Chance The Rapper, Brujas del Sol, Thrice, Antony and the Johnsons, The Mushroom River Band, Rox, Stoned Jesus, Crystal Castles, Purity Ring, David Liebe Hart band, figures appear..

Check out my music taste: http://www.last.fm/user/ShameOnATrip

>>37049340

But wasn't the thread about stoner albums? The image posted was related to it (in the trolling, satirical humor that is Quentin), yet never mentioned Christianity once until you brought it up.

Not trying to take a side here; just observing the facts. Polite sage for offtopic discussion.

>>37049585
Most normal young people smoke weed occasionally. No one cares. Everyone knows it's harmless, I live in AZ and buy it from an old guy with a weed card. I have many friends whose DADS have weed cards. There is weed in one of my friends backyard growing right now.

>>37049675
Recreational use is legal where I live. So far there's only been five raptures.

>>37049740
It's going to be legalized or decriminalized in the western states within 10 years. The west loves freedom too much.

>>37049816
>The west loves freedom too much.
wut.
>commiefornia
>loving freedom
some mad head scratching over here on that one.

>>37049877
>>>/pol/

>>37049877
Pic is me. California isn't THAT bad. I'd rather live there than northeastistan. I couldn't take this with me though...

>>37049877
>mfw Commiefornia has Castle Doctrine
I'm still confused about that.
>We'll make self defense legal, but we'll make it harder for you to defend yourself by banning mags over ten rounds

>No Bongripper

>>37049908
see
>>37049902

>>37049291
you sound way more new kid

>>37049902
Thank god your AWB saved all those lives in Santa Monica.

RS seriously blows, dude. All of their articles consist of the following two topics:

1. Republicans are bad and evil
2. Top 10 greatest Dylan/McCartney songs

Srsly, fuck Jan Wenner and his crew of old fried hippies who quit listening to music in 1974

>>37049906
>arizona
dem god-tier gun laws

>>37049908
>mfw Commiefornia has Castle Doctrine
yeah, after all they do to make it real fucking difficult to protect yourself, they left out the one thing that i thought theyd attack first.

>>37049906
You look like a faggot

>>37049956
>butthurt Commiefornian detected

>>37049965
YOU SEEM TO BE IN /MU/ AND NOT IN /POL/

>>37049957
>le i dont care face

>>37049994
>Don't use facts, that's not fair

>>37049994
you seem to be bum burned. maybe eve rectum ravaged or perhaps even shitter shattered.

>>37049990
implig>

>>37050003
>guns save lives
>fact

pick one if we're going to ignore every statistic and factoid that's not convenient to our argument. or better yet, direct yourself to >>>/pol/ and out of this fucking thread

>>37048807
>>37048842
>>37049283
>>37048831

>>37050049
>Bans
>Saving lives
Pick one and only one

>>37050041
>>>/b/
>>>/pol/
>>>/mlp/

i don't care where you go but plz leave b4 i not-care myself in2 a coma

>>37050072
>australia

#autocorekt

>>37050049
>not liking freedom to bear arms

Why? All it takes is some personal responsibility.

>>37050089
>Mexico

>>37050117
that a vacquero?

>>37050117
>implying americans have personal responsibility

>>37050121
There are generally five ways private citizens may lawfully purchase, register, own and keep firearms in the home:
For home defense (seguridad y legítima defensa)
For hunting (cacería)
For target practice (tiro)
For shooting sport competition (competencia)
For collection (colección)
For home defense, the government will authorize the sale and registration of one handgun of the types and calibers permitted by law.[28] For hunting, target practice or competition, the government will authorize the sale and registration of up to nine long guns (rifles or shotguns) and one handgun of the types and calibers permitted by law (must belong to a hunting and/or shooting club for these permits to be issued). For collection, the government may authorize the sale and registration of an unlimited amount of firearms of any type and caliber in accordance to law and regulation.

>>37050190
What about for taking over a corrupt government, the actual reason for the right to bear arms?

>>37050190
>dat sweeping generalization

>>37050089
Austraila's gun ban has saved less lives than its porn ban has stopped erections. Don't believe me? Look at a chart of homicides over time going back at least 50 years.


>Not including the greatest weed album of all time

>>37050190
The Mexican Constitution guarantees the right of Mexicans to possess arms. Even so, gun control laws in Mexico are very strict, and police discretion in enforcement makes possession of firearms of greater than .22 very difficult.

>>37050247
[citation needed]

>>37050240
juss 4 u bby ;)

>>37050226
>implying a bunch of uneducated, gun-humping 'mericans could take over the government, much less run it

this thread was supposed to be about stoner music

>>37050166
No, it's a Rough Rider .22/.22mag plinker. My next revolver will be a Blackhawk though. I like revolvers.

>>37050253
le and?

>>37050226
he was talking about Mexico brah.
i think for fighting corrupt gubmints is mostly an american thing

>tfw piers morgan said american government had acted tyrannically
>tfw he was so close to admitting that americans are retarded for wanted the right to bear arms against a tyranntical gubmint

>>37050303
So it's too difficult for the average Mexican citizen to obtain a legal weapon, meaning they can't defend themselves from the cartels.

>>37050289
Wow, I love being an American. It's funny to catch hate from countries you've never even heard of or care about.

>>37050337
Oh, so you want a gun to defend yourself from the cartels?

>>37050357
I live in Washington state, where I was born.

>>37050357
>dat ignorance

I come to /mu/ for a different kind of ignorance.

>>37050372
I'm an American, so I'm not overly worried about the cartels here. I would like to see the Mexican government give its citizens a fighting chance, because they've got nothing but their limp dicks right now.

>>37050247
Porn is banned in Australia!??

Serious - fuckin' - ly??

>>37050298
ah, looked in the vacquero style, which is a gun i'm looking at buying.
definitely get the Blackhawk, my buddy has one and it fucking rocks.
my old neighbor has a fucking sweet looking Python that he got a trigger job on, i've been dying to shoot that but he hasnt come out to the range with us yet.

>>37049957
>>37049999
thank you both for sharing

>>37050289
Can't find the one for Austrialia, here's an American chart. The huge spike in the 1910s is a direct result of the coal wars, a little mentioned but very interesting part of US history.

>>37050395
Lol, I'm the Arizonan. I will never understand people like you. Why do you want less freedom? I'm a deist, libertarian, and engineering student by the way. Just so you know who you're talking to.

>>37050433
Just small tit porn and I think it was repealed. They have legal brothels though.

>>37050494
you've got to be a /k/ommando

>>37047145
>this
entroducing sounds great stoned but in no way does that make it a stoner album, same with loveless

>>37050494
>millions of homicides
>not a problem

>>37050499
>libertarian
>republican with a bong
fixd

Also, not being able to own a gun is a "freedom" I'd give up if it saved just one life.

>>37050494
That graph...jesus fucking christ. Cherry-picking historical events while ignoring any broad social or economic changes that were going on, and it's apparently insinuating that no gun control legislation was enacted after 1993? What the fuck man okay I'm drunk I need sleep

>>37050613
>I'd give up if it saved just one life
Turn in your car, your knives, your tap water, and your food.
You might hit someone with your car.
You might stab someone.
You might drown.
You might choke.
After all, it's worth it if it saves just one life, right?

>>37050631
This man is drunk and just destroyed that graph with logic. What does that say?

>>37050613
>millions of homicides
what? dude, there was like 6 thousand gun murders last year. and only like 300 of them were from rifles, which are the only things people are trying to ban.

>>37050649
>You
>You
>You
>You

Libertarianism: Because what good is life if it isn't all about me?

>>37050656
the graph is fine and true. its the random inserted acts that can go away. there still isnt a gun problem.

>>37050682
>Has no counterargument

>>37050665
Which is why that graph is a bullshit argument, first of all...

>>37050649
dont forget cars! if you want to save a life ban speeds over like 20 miles an hour, or cars all together!

>>37050705
I don't need one, the argument is retarded. But fine: None of those things are sold with the intention of being a murder weapon.

>>37050706
the y axis is gun homicides per 100,000 people if i recall correctly. it doesnt seem to be labeled though.

>>37050709
Are you retarded?

>>37050686
How so? Because not as many people are being killed as there were after the fucking prohibition? 0/10

>>37050631
It covers two of the title one and two. Title three happened in 1986 right at the bottom of most recent tough. GO to bed you're drunk.

>>37050733
>I don;t need a counterargument
So you don't have one? You're debating based on emotion, not reason or fact? Okay.

>>37050733
>implying my guns are murder weapons
they havent murdered anyone that i know about.

>no odessey and oracle

I thought RS was supposed to be old farts stuck in the '60s

>>37050745
>mfw gun nuts can't even fucking make readable graphs

>>37047097
Rolling Stone is obviously a much 2deep4u post ironic publication, plen

>>37050613
I wouldn't give up that freedom for anything. It's like you don't know how totalitarianism arises. I agree more with republicans because they have a stronger understanding of the workings of the world. I just wish the GOP politicians weren't hypocrites and I wish they could keep Christianity out of the equation. And the "'murricans" wouldn't be so uneducated if it weren't for the damn teachers union.

>>37050759
Are you retarded?

Gun related deaths at its lowest in 50ish years and on the downward slope. It looks like it's fixin itself right now.

>>37050770
>implying you read past that part to my counterargument
>implying you can read

>>37050775
I encourage you to go back and finish high school. I know you can do it, chum.

>>37050759
Because 90% of all shootings are drug related and 93% of all murder victims are below the poverty line. So its not a gun problem its the fact America has a massive underclass.

>>37050785
>dem sweeping generalizations

>>37050682
Wow, so you don't believe in a sense of self? Have you ever read a biology textbook? We're just animals bro, I have news for you.

>>37050792
>>37050821
confirmed for trolls

thank you for playing

>>37050825
>ad hominem
typical. real good argument there buddy.

>>37050769
Fuck I'm high. I meant to say it covers all federal gun control laws except Title 3 which happen in 1986. Find it on the graph and see what happened to the homicide rate right after.

>>37050825
>None of those things are sold with the intention of being a murder weapon
It doesn't matter what the intention was, it matters how it was used. As it stands, car accidents are responsible for more deaths than guns. Do those deaths not count because they were accidental?

>>37050827
[citation needed]

>>37050841
>>37050845
I'm done. Have fun in fairy tale land.

>>37050792
>republicans
>stronger understanding of the workings of the world
you has have become a copypasta now. congrats on your achievement of immortality

>>37050827
The problem is that drugs are illegal.

>>37050854
>No argument
>Denying facts

>>37047178
They don't even know what amnesiac is

>>37050879
Wow, so people aren't animals now? You don't honestly believe we're special beyond our brains do you? Don't tell me you believe in souls.

>>37050888
>facts
>facts
....
>facts

>>37047448
>>37047448
that's pretty funny actually. i chuckled

>>37050884
It's a problem for you because you are a druggie.

>>37050884
Right, which creates a large illegal market, which leads to dealers trying to protect their profits from one another. Get rid of the market and deaths will go down dramatically.

>>37050884
That's over simplifying a bit but yes end the war on drugs would defiantly lower the homicide rate far more than another Assault Weapons Ban.
>>37050854
>>37050879
It's easy to be right when all your opponents are crazy racist small dicked homophobic gun nut trolls.

>>37049467
LOL

>>37050947
Exactly. If drugs are regulated a black market wouldn't exist in the first place. Black markets have no civil regulations so they have to be enforced through violence.

>>37050969
>Ad hominem

>>37050917
no, obviously feelings and thoughts, especially love and such, only prove that humans have a transcendental factor idiot. what, did you believe something so ignorant that altruistic behaviors and emotions are just a social binder of an animal pack? fool

>>37048934
RS actually did hate Queen back in the 70s and 80s. Look it up.

>>37049283
>2013
>not knowing quentin

>>37051009
Dogs feel emotions, they are a necessary evolutionary construct of all social animals.

>>37051033
u
missed
the
obvious
irony

Makes me feel okay. In fact, i think it's a pretty good list. MPP is a fantastic record while high.

>>37049283
At least lurk a little bit before you post, holy shit.

>>37051054
agreed. it is a fantastic record, if you had recorded it high.

>>37051074
epic burn anon

>>37051053
Oh, no I saw what you wrote. It's just the truth.

>>37051088
I won't contest that
... it's just evidence that we're no more special than them, existentially, exactly
to be redundant

>>37047097
Feels like a good time to smoke a bowl and put on some Flaming Lips and Animal Collective.

Also this anons got it figured out >>37047145

>>37051009
>>37050917
>implying animals kill other animals because it's fun

>>37051126
but they do

>>37051135
>le citation face

>>37047097
The only valid argument against any entry in this list would go something like "I got really stoned and listened to [Any of those albums] once and I HATED IT!!"
And really, no one would say that.

>>37051126
LOL, some animals do. Ever heard of a rouge elephant? And you call me uneducated. My cat kills birds just to kill them, he doesn't eat them, he just plays with their bodies.

>>37051135
even if that were true
>implying animals actively destroy their own environment
>implying animals have the capacity for racism

>>37051171
THAT'S INSTINCT, NOT FUN

>>37051186
>Packs
>not racist

>>37051157
so you mean to tell me that a domesticated cat never ever, fed at or beyond the necessary amount to survive; stalked, killed and brought home and batted around a dead mouse, for... fun?

>>37051171
Dear god, pick up a fucking book. Listen, if your cat used the power of speech to tell you that's why he kills birds, fine. If not, you're just >inferring

>>37050947
>>37051000
>>37050969
This is really untrue and I am surprised the depths that some druggies will go to rationalize.

>>37051171
you posted a second b4 me

>>37051208
see
>>37051201
>>37051218

>>37051201
We're just animals, bud.

>>37051207
>exclusionary
>racist

Only one of those describes animal packs.

>>37051234
is it instinct if i chose to kill someone? is it instinct if I chose not to?

>>37050786
>>>/mu/

>>37051218
no, u pick up a fucking book. you qualified fun itself as some distinguishing element different from instinct, thereby creating a circular argument

>>37051229
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCjBCpv8E_Q

>>37051234
"Why did you kill that man?"

"It was instinct."

"But he didn't do anything."

">implying"

"You're free to go."

>>37051250
......yes
the brain is just a more sophisticated physical processor for acting on instincts
and its common psychological processes are instinct

>>37051268
I don't click blind links.

Summarize in your own words.

>>37051267
Most of what animals do for "fun" is instinct. Dogs chase balls, play fight, and stick their heads out car windows because it's instinct.

>>37051286
I don't know if you know this, but we kill dogs that bite. It's a useful way of eliminating dangerous individuals from a gene pool.

>>37051207
Animals stay in packs to protect each other.

>>37051328
as is, most of what we do for fun. glad you are getting it.
see
>>37051267

>>37051322
It's youtube, what are you afraid of?

>>37048720
Smiley Smile is better than Dopethrone when it comes to Stoner-core.

>>37047097
My brain is bleeding.

>>37051348
Bing-fucking-go. Congratulations you just learned why racism exists.

>>37051344
SOME places kill dogs that SERIOUSLY HARM people or animals because their INSTINCT tells them to. And HUMANS specifically breed dogs that are dangerous and better equipped to KILL things. No other "animal" does that.

>>37051253
glad you got the joke.

>>37051360
>implying our instinct tells us to play video games

>>37051403
yes, I am. shamelessly

>>37051377
>this is what racists actually believe

>>37051361
Are you afraid of summarizing in your own words?

Legalization of opiate painkillers does not delineate the gang violence associated with it. Also, the abolishment of prohibition did not reduce alcohol-related deaths. Your logic is a fairy tale.

>>37050117
>understanding that the freedom to bear arms is essential
You are my bro.

>>37050247
far from the greatest weed album. And Ugly Mane isn't really bout that life. He just smokes cigarettes

>>37051413
>>37051413
>>37051413
>yfw

>>37051380
We' are the smartest animal. No other animal but Clown Fish live in anemones. That definitely means it isn't an animal.

>>37051416
>instantly less than covertly making alcohol-related deaths similar tier to the effects of opiate painkiller use on society

go back to analogy school

>>37051416
I don't feel like typing out a 30 minute tv program for you.

>>37051483
I win then.

>>37051448
good for you

>>37051468
What do you mean? Please rephrase and try again.

>>37051492
Ok, just know that you're wrong.

>>37051466
other animals don't live in anemones for fun!
therefore the clown fish is immortal and not an animal

>>37051505
So you are saying that the legalization of dangerous drugs will reduce crime and violence?

>>37051466
>one unique thing

Bravo, you've shattered my argument.

>>37051504
>instantly less than covertly making alcohol-related deaths similar tier to the effects of opiate painkiller use on society

go back to analogy school

>>37051522
>implying anyone finds your "irony" amusing

This is what happens when far-right dipshits try to be funny.

>>37051534
Literally every species of animal is unique.

>>37051534
but that's the basis of your argument... something that may or may not be unique that you cannot prove is either way because it has to do with another animal's perception and dealing with the world which you cannot perceive yourself not being that animal

>>37051595
"But some animals are more unique than others"

- George R.R. Salinger

>>37051558
>implying that is far-right by any means
>implying you understand
captcha: criticism ortnsib

>>37051599
>man is the animal

>>37051126
Wrong. Like, REALLY wrong. Did you sleep through school? Never watched a nature documentary?

>>37051629
2deep4me is gues

>>37051558
>far right
>not believing in voodoo and ghosts like you

What?

/facepalm

Half of all gun deaths are gang-related. There were 8000 gun deaths in the U.S. in 2012. Without guns people would still have the incentive to kill but it would be more difficult, probably not much more considering guns can still be purchased from other countries. Gangs would have nothing to do if drugs were legal.

>>37051535
I don't think you understand my analogy. Perhaps try reading again?

>>37051648
>not reading the thread

i shiggidy dig dog doogidy dug dig dang

>>37051644
bravo, you've got it. and animal is the man

>>37051677
Then it's settled. We as a nation must outlaw black people.

>>37051677
>Gangs would have nothing to do if drugs were legal.
What is gambling, prostitution, extortion.

>>37051686
>implying anyone remembers the point of this

>>37051678
you really like reading my response don't you. well now you're going to have to beg me for it again. and I expect you to talk dirty to me

>>37051415
You should take a world history class.

>>37051714
Tell me more about the legalization of meth, and crack

>>37051708
Even though I agree with that guy for the most part, it's not like if all the drugs went away, gangs would just dissipate. However, other countries like Portugal handle drug problems MUCH much better than the US.

>>37051712
of course we do. it's about stoner albums. these are pointless conversations you have whilst stoned. therefore, we've been on the subject the whole time

>>37051722
You should take a sledgehammer to the nuts until you no longer have the capability to reproduce.

>>37051731
oops you did it again

>>37051708
Gambling and prostitution should both be legal.

>>37051746
I wish I were high

>>37051774
Ooops you forgot extortion.

>>37051768
So emotional...

>>37051768
if I do, I'm certain I'll do it for fun, not like one of those filthy animals.

>>37051771
What are you wearing?

>>37051793
So they now have one thing to do? Sounds better than four to me.

>>37051813
full goofninja... and a fedora.

>>37051774
This

>america's face when other countries have less gangs because they legalized all the things that gangs deal in

>>37051801
;)

>>37051818
Theft

>>37051708

Do you have any reason to think that those institutions make nearly as much money as drugs? Do you see whore armies riding tanks in Mexico?

>>37051826
What is a goofninja?

>>37051834
yep. all we need to do is legalize the combination of church and state, and then we won't have to deal with theocracy and republicans

>>37051857
>implying drug crime wouldn't go down if drugs weren't a crime

>>37051857
But we're talkign about a scenario where drugs are legal, so your point is irrelevant.

Also there is a lot of theft of copper wire in my area and it's a big problem.

Should we solve it by making copper illegal?

You druggies are hilarious

>Os Mutantes debut
I thought I was the only one!

>Paranoid over MoR
Oh, hey remember which one has a fucking song called "Sweet Leaf?" Right. Idiots.

>>37051863
Rick Owens Raf Simmons always what I'm dressed in

>>37051882

What? I was saying that it would.

>>37051872
Combining church and state wouldn't be like legalizing drugs, it would be like making everyone take drugs every fucking day and not letting anyone make decisions unless they were high as fuck.

>>37051882
It wouldn't go down though. The gangs would still sell them, just cheaper than the govt regulated trade.

>>37051903
>le my mistake

>>37051919
>implying anyone would bother buying drugs from gangs if drugs were legal

>>37051894

> But we're talkign about a scenario where drugs are legal, so your point is irrelevant.

I have no idea what you're saying here.

>>37051910
I didn't say force it. I just said make it allowable.

>>37051937
Because it's cheaper. You don't know what a black market is? I can get a carton of cigs for half the price on the street

>>37051940
I don't know either. I'm so tired right now.

>>37051895
MoR practically invented stoner metal. I mean, I love Paranoid, but MoR is by and large a better stoner album.

>>37051964

That could be unique to cigarettes. People hardly buy bootleg liquor.

>>37051532
Yes, idiot

>>37051946
>implying republicans don't already let their religious persuasions effect every fucking decision they make

>>37051964
>black market
das racist

>>37052003
Have you ever met a crackhead or a methhead?

>>37051964
>dealing with criminals if you have another choice

>>37051964
What's this then? someone not paying attention to the new law? won't have any of you ruffians dealing in blacks on my street, if that's what your on abouts
>>37051701

>>37051532
It will certainly reduce drug addiction, if the US treats it like a public health issue rather than a crime. And yes, this will inevitably lead to less crime and violence.

>>37051999
Any commodity exists in that fashion. And people still do buy bootleg liquor

>>37052061
See >>37052030

>>37052030
Yes. If we lived in a functioning country, they would be provided for and treated instead of thrown in jail.

>>37051849
Theft is pretty hard when I can shoot you in your face. That shit is for britbongs. Plus the risk is too high to make it profitable.

>>37052082
see
>>37052088

>>37052091
>Theft is pretty hard when I can shoot you in your face.
Oh, so that's violence that hasn't been clipped by legalization of drugs?

Thanks for proving my point.

>>37052064
You're right, I hear about bootleg liquor every night on the TV box

>>37052082
oh yes, because after what reagan did to the system of taking care of the mentally ill things in prisons have been going swimmingly

>>37052088
>>37052103
How should we treat them specifically?

>>37052128
Most of the people are in prison because of actions they've taken while on a certain drug. It has nothing to do with if it's legal or not. Please stop with the misdirection.

>>37052130
I don't know, it's not like there's a legal, mind-altering substance that people get addicted to, but can get help through some kind of program in which people take some kind of metaphorical "steps" of which there are 12.

>>37052164
>Most of the people are in prison because of actions they've taken while on a certain drug
(citation needed)
confirmed troll, 'publican, /b/, whatever type of malarky and tomfoolery

>>37052173
>what is Narcotics Anonymous

>>37052204
lel

>>37052204
This was my observation while in prison.

How about you?

>>37052114
They wouldn't try to rob me because of the knowledge that they will be shot in the face. Are you even right wing? Why the fuck are you against legalization?

>>37052225
Now imagine how many more people they could help if those people weren't rotting in jail.

>>37052236
And you were in prison for what exactly? Rape, probably.

>>37052236
I don't remember exactly. But I was sober at least when I did the altercation :DDDDDD

>>37052064

Nobody fucking buys bootleg liquor. Alcoholics drink listerine.

You're saying that black market drugs would still fuel gangs if drugs were legal.

I admit was surprised to see this.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129934561

But it says "Depending on the quantities of cigarettes that you're purchasing, you're talking in the hundreds of thousands to the millions of dollars,"

So it sounds like this says maybe a million dollars for... what? The article doesn't say. It sounds like the entire country because the quote is from somebody who works for the federal government in Washington D.C.

A million dollars is jack shit compared to $30 billion for the entire drug trade.

Do you see rappers talking about selling cigarettes?

Plus, more people who use cigarettes are addicted to them. A lot of people can use cocaine, etc. without doing it daily.

>>37052244
But that program is there for them. They chose not to participate.

So that goes back to my question: how would we treat them differently, specifically?

>>37052236
I'm not a pleb so I haven't gone to prison.

>>37052256
Nope, nice ad hom tho ;)

>>37052273
Require them to participate. The same thing we do with alcoholics. The end.

>>37052278
>implying going to prison just for the sophisticated experience isn't patrish af

>>37052285
It's only cuz I hate you ;)

>>37052294
That's right, and there's absolutely no alcohol related deaths ever.

>>37052278
>>37052304
top lel

>>37052312
Hey are you this guy >>37051900
>>37051826
>>37051771

>>37052318
Thanks for choosing for me mommy, some people have no sell control therefore everyone must pay for it.

>>37052354
I'll answer for him. he's not me

>>37052318
Actually there are MUCH more alcohol related deaths than any other kind of drug. So why is it that alcohol is legal and other drugs aren't? Because they can't be taxed maybe? And it's not like recreational drug use wouldn't be fine, it just wouldn't be something that landed you in jail forever, you'd just have to clean up. It should be a public health issue. Not a crime.

>>37052327
can I get an autistic Scaruffi review of prison for the sauce pls

>>37052400
*would be fine

>>37052400
>So why is it that alcohol is legal and other drugs aren't? Because they can't be taxed maybe?
NIGGA YOU JUST WENT FULL GENERIC LIBERAL ARGUMENT

>>37052400
So if a crackhead stole your TV to get more crack, you'd be OK with that and it wouldn't be a crime?

>>37052273

Uh, we could give them a choice between jail and drugs.

I don't think you people are acknowledging just how fucking easy it is to get any drug you want. The government and people who agree with it are treating adults like babies. The craziest homeless person could get you anything you want if you have twenty dollars. All drugs being illegal does is (A) put otherwise innocent people in jail and (B) waste a shitton of money, both for the people buying the drugs (whose money goes out of the country) and taxpayers. Unions are probably at the heart of much anti-drug rhetoric.

>>37052400
Yes, because that is exactly tantamount to what he just said.
captcha: eevelya intellectual
hint: one of these words is the opposite of what you are

>>37052406
Possibly the greatest [place] of all times, and certainly one of the most original and influential [places] of the 20th century, [prison], also known as [poundtown], completely erased all [social] dogmas and simply reinvented [incarceration] on his own terms. Formally, his style blends [sitting], [waiting], cacophonous [eating] and [weight lifting], but what is unique about [jail] is the oblique, skewed, manic, unpredictable and demented structure of his [jail].

>>37052478
meant for
>>37052442

>>37052459
>Uh, we could give them a choice between jail and drugs.
I don't think you realize this already happens.

Also answer this >>37052442

>>37052484
top lel
my sides

>>37052478
But the crackhead would rob you regardless if the drug is legal or not.

Same with crazy methheads. They're going to tweek no matter what.

>>37052438
>implying i'm wrong

Capcha: narypeH left

>>37052442
Yes, that's what I'm saying you delightful autist.

>>37052478
whatevr u sey

>>37052459
I'd like to see how many DEA jobs are lost JUST if weed were legalized. The government in general uses drugs as a red herring during other issues.

>>37052534
>Yes, that's what I'm saying you delightful autist.
You are a fucking liar. At least be a man and admit it. I can accept your point of view, but man up and don't lie.

>>37052534
see
>>37052491

>>37052484
>[poundtown]
>cacophonous [eating]

i can't breathe

>>37052526
>no matter what

Stalemate, nanny.

>>37052560
>the joke
>
>
>
>your head

>>37052600
OK fair enough.

I win.

>>37052576
I know I can't stop
captcha: Doublesides tyNOthe

>>37052438
>liberals
>NOT wanting taxes

Are you retarded?

>>37052493

I'm telling you that drug use wouldn't rise that much because anybody with legs and $20 can already get what they want. Plus, doesn't it make sense that people would have to steal MUCH less if drugs were legal and cheaper? This might be a bad example for cocaine, heroin and meth but marijuana would actually be given away for free if it was legal, it would be so cheap. If anything, people going to the hospital for overdoses might be more of a problem.

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2012/07/how_much_would_legal_marijuana_cost_a_new_book_says_it_would_be_nearly_free_.html

>>37052619
That's the great thing about America. You can believe anything you want to believe.

>>37052653
yep. America is most definitely the best place for this..................

>>37052484
Best thing in the thread. Someone cap this.

>>37052645
>I'm telling you that drug use wouldn't rise that much because anybody with legs and $20 can already get what they want.
Alcohol use hasn't declined since the prohibition. You've effectively made it easier to get meth.
>Plus, doesn't it make sense that people would have to steal MUCH less if drugs were legal and cheaper?
No. The reason a crackhead steals is because he can't hold a job, because of the effects of the drug. It's the nature of the substance that causes the crime.
>This might be a bad example for cocaine, heroin and meth but marijuana would actually be given away for free if it was legal, it would be so cheap. If anything, people going to the hospital for overdoses might be more of a problem.
This is my point: when you dumb potheads spurt out "LEGALIZATION!" you really only mean for weed. You really don't understand that every drug is different, and there is a reaosn why crack and meth are dangerous.

>>37052719
I know, my brother who doesn't know the first thing about /mu/ laughed

>>37052749

>Alcohol use hasn't declined since the prohibition. You've effectively made it easier to get meth.

What? Why would alcohol use decline after being legalized?
Look, what you're basically saying, which admittedly we've heard before, is that the biggest fucking retards on Earth will think that getting addicted to crack, meth, etc. will be a good idea once these drugs are legal. As if some people think that the government will be sending a message by legalizing the drugs, as if people get their ethics from the government (ex. as if people for the most part don't shoplift or murder only because they won't get away with it).

People get addicted to hard drugs because they're poor. There's not going to be a huge wave of addicts because crack/meth is legal. So if I'm right about that, that the number of addicts will stay the same, they will only have more money and are therefore less likely to steal.

>>37052856
>So if I'm right about that, that the number of addicts will stay the same, they will only have more money and are therefore less likely to steal.
Where would they get money? methheads and crackheads generally can't hold jobs, which is the reason they steal.

>>37052878
I don't see the difference besides eliminating gangs? Crackheads and meth heads exist now. If it were legalized they would still exist but the gangs wouldn't.

>>37052878

If drugs between 1/10th and 1/5th of the price they used to be the addicts will have more money. The only reason they wouldn't is because they literally do 5x-10x as much drugs which I would honestly guess is not likely.

>>37052918
Then they might die (I hope).

Problem solved if they OD.

It's a win win, nanny fag.

>>37052918
>>37052917
You didn't answer my question. Try again.

>>37052953

The only thing that's going to change in this situation is that drugs cost less. So at worst, they're going to behave exactly the same as when drugs were illegal.

>>37052953
I don't get it, so the system now is better? Your argument isn't a valid reason for being my nanny.

>>37052918
Also, since it would be govt regulated, what makes you think it'll be cheaper? The cost would go up, and the crackheads will still go with a cheaper option (the gangs) and the methheads will just cook their own (which will be illegal).

>>37052978
Which is why legalizing drugs will never solve our problems.
>>37052986
being my nanny
I don't know what that means

>>37052992
Without the artificial price caused by the risk of being arrested?

>>37052992


What?! If tobacco was illegal it would be much more expensive than it is (although this is another example of a drug being unique since I think I remember learning that tobacco is difficult to grow). So would/was alcohol.

>>37053007
With the govt taxation?

>>37053019
Prove it.

>>37053006
> Which is why legalizing drugs will never solve our problems.

Except for any number of hard drug addicts who actually DON'T break any other laws.

ITT: /pol/ dukes it out with /v/

>>37053039


Uh, prohibition?

>>37053006
You're supporting a nanny state that treats adults like children. You're saying that you have more of a right to dictate what I do than I do when I'm not hurting anyone but myself. Thus you want to be my nanny and tell me how to live.

>>37053049
Show me examples of these people you imagined

>>37053057
What was the cost then as compared to know?

>>37053065
>when I'm not hurting anyone but myself.
This is what addicts actually believe

>>37053079

Adjusted for inflation? What the fuck do you think? Do I really have to look this up?

>>37053070

Oh fucking brother.

>>37053086
I'm not addicted to anything but caffine and sugar. Both of which I break on a regular basis when I cut. I would never do a hard drug. But I'm not a big enough asshole to tell you that if you do you get a time out.

>>37053070

I went to http://www.crackheads.com/ but there's nothing there.

>>37053132
>we have been talking about caffeine and sugar all along in this thread!
Nice one anaon

>>37053121
>Adjusted for inflation? What the fuck do you think? Do I really have to look this up?
I just said "prove it". What part of that don't you understand?

>>37053153
I don't get it, he implied I was an addict and I said what I'm addicted to at the moment.

OP here, I'm deleting this thread, so say your final piece before I bury this piece of shit.

>>37053190
What do you think OP? Legal or not legal?

>>37053188
How much do you weigh?

>>37053190
#TROLLED

>>37053222
210lbs 6'2" 17%bf fatty Mcdouble Cheeseburger. I'm going to start my next cut Monday after I eat out with my dad on Father's Day.

>>37053278
So you are an addict then?