was this the finished version?
yeah think so
add xlr8rmaybe mention that all of those have some sort of weekly podcast that is great to listen to
why is germany such a little part on that chart
>>36995314muh berlin techno
>>36995314no idea, i don't even know where it originally came from
>>36995335>>36995314Here, in pretty graphicshttp://www.thomson.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/infographic/interactive-music-map/index.html
>>36995284ooo which ones?
>>36995357oh wow, that was pretty cool
>>36995332cocky for someone who listened exclusively to post-hardcore only a year ago
>>36995361http://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast.aspxhttp://www.factmag.com/category/factmixes/http://www.xlr8r.com/podcast
>>36995408xlr8r also has some good artist insightshttp://www.xlr8r.com/tv
>>36995332better than muh 5000 different types of breakbeat where only autistic people can tell the differencebut hey i guess india was really more influential or bigger for electronic music,germany was just good for trance
>>36995428no, but Detroit was
>>36995438>implying detroit would exist without kraftwerki dont have much problem with america being big. it's just stupid that uk is so big
>>36995428>better than muh 5000 different types of breakbeat where only autistic people can tell the difference
>>36995493>>36995438>>36995428who gives a shit?
>>36995493UK spawned a lot of genres, what can you do, stop being so nationalist, it really doesn't matter
>>36995393>>36995428that was a joke guys
remember kids:Reading this is OK: http://www.residentadvisor.net/review-view.aspx?id=12994But reading THIS isn't: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18091-disclosure-settle/
>>36995558the comments tho
>>36995558>>36995558one specializes in electronic musicthe other specializes in trendy music
>>36995558>caring what a twing twang journalist has to say about electronic music
>>36995512chart is just not right, thats all im saying.
>>36995558yeah, makes perfect sense. I'm sure an Indian restaurant could make me some spring rolls too, I'm still going to ask the Chinaman.
>>36995600yeah but it wasn't /mu/ that made the chartso y u complainin on here? lol
>>36995600then just cut out the infographicsinfographics usually suck anyways
>>36995408>>36995425Thankye
>>36995600email them and tell them>>36995357
>>36995617because i didn't knew that /mu/ didn't make the chart.
/r/ing the infograph in the top right
>>36995661posted over 9000 times in the thread already
damn I didn't know that about discogsso I can subscribe to say hotflush records and they'll tell me when a new release comes out?
I would add Boomkat, the new releases section is nice and you can discover quite a bit.
>>36995684no don't tell them that
>hip-hop>electronic genreI shall always be rustled. If it gets more people to take it seriously, than whatever.
>>36995727it is.
>>36995314That'S because Germany sucks at being innovative
>>36995727if you think about it, it is true.
>>36995497i guarantee you antti has better taste in music than 99% of /mu/if you listened to nothing but techno, you would still have better taste than 99% of /mu/
>>36995727http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHIo1UVj7tk
>>36995695>u so speshulIts not like no one knows boomkat summer
here is something i just found out via RA http://ntslive.co.uk/
>discrediting scruffyHis top jungle list isn't even an awful starting place. Just don't read into his reviews too much. I can't speak for any other bleep stuff he has covered.
>>36995782aww ty :3
>>36995795the techno that he likes is mostly good as well, but its a really narrow coverage
>>36995795i think the idea is to get users to spread out and find things for themselves. the board would be a better place with more sources of "great music" instead of the same few.
>>36995735>>36995744I've had this argument a bunch of times, it boils down to:1. It doesn't have to be with electronic instruments. The Roots are definmitely hip-hop - so are they playing acoustic electronic music?2. Something can have a lot of influence with the other without being of it. Blues had a lot of influence on rock like hip-hop did on electronic, but does that makes blues a rock sub-genre (blues rock not withstanding)?3. Yes, disco influenced both, but in different ways. Hip-hop developed out of a Jamaican practice called mceeing (sp?) while modern electronic music came out of many evolutions after disco.4. Electronic music goes back way before hip-hop, but I'm pretty sure DJ Kool Herc was inspired by Russolo and Tangerine Dream when he got the ball rolling for hip-hop.
>>36995727>>36995735>>36995744Hip hop is a combination of breakbeat music, turntablism and Jamaican music>In the 1970s an underground urban movement known as "hip hop" began to develop in the South Bronx area of New York City focusing on emceeing (or MCing), breakbeats, and house parties. Starting at the home of DJ Kool Herc at the high-rise apartment at 1520 Sedgwick Avenue, the movement later spread across the entire borough. Rap developed both inside and outside of hip hop culture, and began in America in earnest with the street parties thrown in the Bronx neighborhood of New York in the 1970s by Kool Herc and others—Jamaican born DJ Clive "Kool Herc" Campbell is credited as being highly influential in the pioneering stage of hip hop music,[17] Herc created the blueprint for hip hop music and culture by building upon the Jamaican tradition of impromptu toasting, boastful poetry and speech over music.
>>36995795All the music Scaruffi has covered is already covered in the mutronica.blogspot section.
>>36995756Disco rap was thing, yeah,. but it involved sampling disco, not making your own element with a synth.
>>36995841all of those points are irrelevant.
>>36995841> It doesn't have to be with electronic instruments. neither does some electronic musicsee Brandt Brauer Frick or Elektro Guzzi for example
>>36995844Also, this is a good read, turny posted it the other day, its mostly turntablism but it covers the turntable as instrument prior and during the start of hip hophttp://www.autistici.org/2000-maniax/texts/pedestrian%20history%20of%20turntablism.pdf
>>36995822That's a problem with the people on the board, not the source of information. I know his jungle list is fine, and apparently it's not the only one that is passable:>>36995822Though I can agree with the narrowness, and the fact that they are dated.>>36995860I've never visited, but that's good to know.
>>36995884Meant to quote >>36995815
>>36995860what about hip-house?
How about this site eh?http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/
>>36995880Page 3 specifically
>>36995875That's a good point, but electro-acoustic is a specific thing, though. Hip-hop developed separately to early house and techno.The people who lump hip-hop with electronic tend to also over-emphasize instrumentla hip-hop - that chart lists "rap" as a sub-genre of hip-hop, when most hip-hop involes rapping, not the minority.>>36995844There's also this>>36995923A cross between two genres, like rap rock.
>>36995948>The people who lump hip-hop with electronic tend to also over-emphasize instrumentla hip-hop - that chart lists "rap" as a sub-genre of hip-hop, when most hip-hop involes rapping, not the minority.literally turny's faultNOBODY else does that
>>36995968except lots of people do
>>36995977that's wrongi have never seen anybody except for turny do that
>>36995948>most hip-hop involes rapping[citation needed]There are tons of hip hop styles, /mu/ only talks about rap though. From electro style like Bambaataa, the original breakeat genres, instrumental, turntablism, trip hop, plus other styles that rely heavily on hip hop music, its just /mu/ only thinks of Wu-Tang and Kanye when people say hip hop.>>36995986Its not wrong, I've seen plenty of anons do it, just because Turny has a trip he stands out but he isn't the only one.
>>36996015this.
>>36995933Damn that is a nice guide. I'm starting with the shit I like and find other great stuff, thanks
>>36996015no its because turny samefags as anon constantly
>>36995933Ishkurs site is dated and biased as fuck
>>36996048Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess Turny is summer too >>36996038
>>36996053its biased in the way people with good taste should be biased, ie against trance and garage derivatives, pro techno and house
>>36996038>thisrly m8next time you post, actually try to write something
>>36996093something
>>36996084>he shares the same taste as me so he is right>>36996093>I've been proved wrong and will resort to changing the subject
>>36996053Yeah there's some bias, but what site isn't?
>>36996084>against tranceanyone who isn't a retard is against trance>against garage derivativesexcept this has been the most forward thinking scene in the last ten years
>>36996015>[citation needed]On RYM there is 63 pages of albums listed under "instrumental hip-hop". Under hardcore hip-hop, there are 365.Yes, there are more styles of vocal-less hip-hop genres, but there is also a ton more styles that do have rapping.
>>36996153looking at it from a pre-dubstep perspective, you would understand why Ishkur thinks the way he doesyou don't have that perspective though as you are 14 years old and never listened to garage before it became trendy through p4k
>>36996153>anyone who isn't a retard is against tranceEmbarrassing. But your point still is there
>>36996015Plus, trip-hop and breakbeat are more electronic sub-genres, with some hip-hop influence.
i think these genre debates turn people off to electronic music.
>>36996279good, we don't want them around then anyway
>>36996279since when do u like electronic music anyways? i thought u were all about that banjo hillbilly shit
>>36996279they should just use the chart and spend more time on the sites on it rather than /mu/ then
>>36996305i like a lot of shit.
>>36995968>man who likes turntablism uses terms 'rap' and 'turntablism' to separate different styles of music in discussionsWell fancy fucking that.
>>36996225breakbeat started hip hoptrip hop is hip hop, Tricky has always said this
>>36996336he has probably done more to discredit turntablism than anybody else, ever
>>36996181I do have that perspectiveI was 14 when Memories of the Future dropped, and has been one of my favourite albums ever sinceYou just proved the point of how ishkur's guide is outdated Garage has always been trendy btw, you just have to be in the right places
>>36996362If it wasn't for Turny I'd still be listening to Endtroducing... all day
>>36996378>Endtroducing...>turntablism
>>36996378if it wasn't for turny, nobody would care about turntablismfor every 1 person that he has converted into liking turntablism, he has made at least 5 people completely discredit it as they get annoyed at his constant shitposting
>>36996361>breakbeat started hip hopOther way around, really. Hip-hop DJs started doing something that electronic musicians took to the next level.>trip hop is hip hop, Tricky has always said thisThis point would be stronger if he weren't on the more hip-hop side of trip-hop, which also includes stuff like Portishead.Trip-hop is down-tempo meets hip-hop, so you could trip-hop is sort of a hip-hop subgenre.
>>36996405>I don't like him posting about turntablism>no one else does
>>36996427try harder turny
>>36996423read this>>36995880andhttp://www.allmusic.com/subgenre/trip-hop-ma0000002906
>>36996458>if I disagree>I am TurnyYou seem obsessed
>>36996427see the problem is, this could literally be turny as he does this shit all the timeturny is like fuhrer in so many ways, its like some light side vs. dark side shit
>>36996475This stupid 'anon is fuhrer/Turny when I want' argument shit is stupid
>>36996474I wasn't the other guy, it just seems like something turny would do
>>36996508I'd like to believe he is too old for such pointlessness
>>36996537you could say the same for gearspammer
This board needs IDs or forced tripcodes or some shit, fuck
>>36996475>>36996503>>36996508>>36996537jesus, christ guys, turny isn't even posting anywhere right nowit's really not worth discussing
>>36996153>anyone who isn't a retard is against tranceaka>I've listened to tiesto and deadmouse5 I know every single fucking type and style of trance.
>>36996561>IDsand forced anon
>>36996571turny posts more without his trip than with it.he's prob in this thread rite now
>>36996459The allmusic article just confirmed the fact that trip-hop is hard to place down.But the other article is good stuff. So breakbeat was a little thing before hip-hop, and then they grew together. Interesting.Still, I'm not convinced hip-hop is an electronic sub-genre, just that the two have been very, very connected.
>>36996574the only trance artist worth mentioning is simon posfordmost other trance is utter shite
>>36996581anything that stops this pointless bickering>>36996591we don't know that though
>>36996574lmao @ you thinking cheesy mallbient garbage is any better than Tiesto
>>36996629You have no idea what your talking about do you?But that's ok because your anonymous.
>>36996689nah L.S.G. is utter trash and your mom smoked way too much crack when pregnant
>>36996709Hey, you're the one shitposting because he can't contribute to the thread.
>>36996629>mallbientYou're not being serious right?
the Face magazine timelined BPM's by current popular drug's. It was spot on, but I haven't been able to find it.
>>36996751posting trance or defending trance is shitposting, childits also off-topic to the thread
>>36996759>liking mallbientYou're not being serious right?
>>36996767>>36996782Oh I get it, you're trying to trick us.Good one kid, I was sure trolled.
>>36996828His tricking us by being ignorant.This is his best attempt at trolling he has to offer.
>>36996828>people dun liek muh trance>must be trolling XD
>>36996828>assanguished trancebabbycould you please go to /v/ or Newgrounds or r/music or wherever the fuck scum like you congregate?just please leave /mu/
>>36996861>>36996862I get it, I was coaxed into le snafu. I bet these are your faces now.>implying I listen to trance>implying you're not just being total retards by dismissing it
>>36996906>literally ironic shitpostingseriously, get the fuck out, you sub-human trance listening fuckgo listen to Darude and anime soundtracks on /v/ with the other neckbeards
>>36996906simon posford goodall others badbut you don't even listen to simon posford
Jesus you guys are fucking faggots
>>36996992>trance listeningTry reading my post again, sweetie.And then explain why you think trance is so bad.>>36997018Guess I'll check him out then.
>>36997018>>36996992It's ok guys you can admit you are trolling, we are all anonymous here.
>>36997043shut it Gwendlyphia
>>36997055No, thats turny and fuhrer
>>36997043>one anon likes trance>HURR DURR FUCKING RETARD FUCK YOU FOR LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE FUCK OFF BACK TO /v/ OR REDDIT ARHGFRGBAFGBLyep
>>36997075Everyone is Turny and fuhrer
>>36997055I'm not even trollingPoint to some good trance that doesn't involve simon posford>inb4 infected mushroom
trance is bad tho
>>36997126prove
>>36997138can't
>>36997104Cosmic babyJoofOliver lieb or any of his aliasSasha + johndigweed from 1995-2001/03pretty much anything from Eye Q, Harthouse, MFS Records, Dragonfly Records or Perfecto.
>>36997104Most likely your next answer will be Shpongle.Shpongle
>>36997190link pls
>>36997190adding onto this.anything Paul Oakenfold played from 1994-2000. eg. His World Tour collection.The Digital Blonde.Shpongleunion jackArt of Trance
>>36997190except for sasha+john digweed, that is a whole lot of awful music
>>36997226>said things not involving posford>mentions shponglelooks like this guy ws right>>36997214
>>36997221youtube.com>>36997234>>36997251epic.
>>36997251Oh, well I learned something today. Thanks /mu/
>>36997234>except for sasha+john digweed, that is a whole lot of awful musicKnow how I know you're a troll?S&D played oliver lieb a lotNext time troll someone who doesn't know what their talking about
>>36997302Know how I know you have fetal alcohol syndrome?you like trance
>>36997190>liebtop lelnow get out with yer shit taste
>>36997337>>36997338Do you guys sit in the same room?
>>36997337I'm not that anon (I don't even listen to trance), but you seriously need to grow up.
Q: Has there EVER been a good dance music thread on /mu/?
>>36997402I like how there has not been one post ITT about any of the websites listed or the music within them, tips or ideas on how to use them better or great releases from using them.
>>36997402UK bass threads are usually really goodthere hasn't been one in forever, sadly
>>36997076I called you faggots because you squabble over the dumbest shit. Jesus let get go of your egos, why the fuck do you care if people like trance or not. This is why this board is shit
>>36997402This same originial one 10 hours ago was fine until biotroll started posting and then someone started posting copypasta so yeah, nah
>>36997500this is the problem with the pleb/patrician bullshit thats escalated so much that nothing is superior and everything sucks as people scramble to call each other pleb first instead of exploring music together
>>36997500>squabblebut other people with their hot onions start this, not us. Lemme put it another way>a couple of people try to discuss a certain genre they like>HURR DURR FUCKING RETARD FUCK YOU FOR LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE FUCK OFF BACK TO /v/ OR REDDIT ARHGFRGBAFGBL
>>36997543contAnd they haven't even explained why they believe trance is bad, just carried on with their playground insults and other bullshit.
>>36997562http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kIjFMQsb2S4
>>36997634this goes for any trance, really
>>36997634>using a full-on track as an examplefull on is shit, psy trance is good
>electronic music>goodPick one
>>36998990one
>using /mu/ for electronic musicahahahahahahahahahahaaha
>>36998990Guitar 'n' feels 4 lyfe, right?
>>36998990>music
>>36999092>music made by reclusive introverts, nerds and geeksSounds like /mu/Bleeps 'n' Bloops threads are usually pretty decent for recs
>>36998990>muh geetah moosik
>>36999155>electronic music>reclusive introvertsIs this opposite day?
>>36999155>Bleeps 'n' Bloops threads are usually pretty decent for recsthey really are>>36999206hnnng
you guys are gay
>>36999206>kandy ravers>electronic music fansare you brain damaged
>>37001786Whats a true electronic music fan then?
>>37001815
>>37001815>>>36995497
>>37001815this
>>37001838lellel
>>36999206why do some people look like this?I don't understand...+
>>36995884>I know his jungle list is fineJust because it's not as terrible as his techno, ambient and house lists does not make it "fine". It makes it less terrible, that's it.
>>37002098thats what you do at Americlap raves
>>37002098y not?
>>370024771 and 3
>>37002477aren't they pornstars though
>>37002477ill take 1
>>37002477probably 3
>>37002477rave sluts are great
>>37002477Is that Lia?
>>37002913
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>>37002935
>>37001838I'm actually pretty sure that guy isn't a too reclusive shut in because he's a DJ and all
>>37002913>rave sluts are greathow
>>37002996they're nearly nekkid
>>37002996It's nice to fap at their pics
>>37002477>>37002913>>37002935they're just the worst.but my god what i wouldn't give for a good ol hate-fuck with a rave slut
>>37002996they dress like whores
i like how electronic music is way more label heavy then most other genres
I bet these girls which just made me lose my job listen to lots of glitch and industrial techno.
>>37003081dub and minimal techno I'd say, probably leaning on the glitch side, maybe some power electronics too
>>37002913>rave sluts are greatdont they employ girls for photoshoots, in order to make guys think that all girls who turn up to raves dress almost naked
>>37003034turny is the only tr00 raver on /mu/ and even he admitted that he wouldn't have minded girls dressed like that at his favourite warehouse
>>37001815if you don't look like >>37001838 or pic relatedyou don't like electronic music
>>37003155watch an EDC video on youtube, there are loads who aren't models, loads who should NEVER go out in just panties and nipple stickers too
>>37003183>posting a picture of Hampus
>>37003168and what is that supposed to tell us now? i wouldn't mind it either, they still do though.
>>36995225>tfw can't into bleep bloops>tfw guitar music is eventually going to die and i will have nothing new to listen to
>>37003195hamps isn't that handsome
>>37003221What type of twing twang do you usually listen to, theres bound to be a genre that will appeal
>>37003221i don't understand how people "can't into" an entire super-genrehow musically retarded do you have to be?
>>37003168
>>37003221I'm pretty sure there has already been released more guitar music than you can listen to in your lifetime
>>37003235what? hampus is qt as fuck.
both RA and P4K sucks
>>37003289then what doesn't suck
>>37003289RA is fine as long as you like techno
>>37003308well, you're mom definitely does xD
>>37003317and if you don't, you should probably re-evaluate your life choices
>>37003330XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
I like how rock is so tiny and irrelevant on that image