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THERE'S A CAT
eciestil fupplya

Downtempo

Trip-hop

DFA

raymond scott - manhatten research inc
the one with that herbie hancock song rockit

EBM

Acid

Plunderphonics

Electro

>>36830633
Holy shit, i gotta check out Endtroducing. Some of the highest overall ratings i've ever seen for any album ever

>>36830937
yes you do, then never listen to anything else by him.

Detroit

>>36830950
except the Yukimi Nagano track*

IDM

>>36830950
Why? The rest is shit? Or is this just a million times better?

This one is so ubiquitous but still the king

IDM

Dub Techno

>>36830968
It's significantly better than any of his other albums, I wouldn't call his other stuff "shit" though.

Industrial

music

>>36830985
Ambient Techno is more accurate

>>36830985
That's not IDM though and it was just a ripoff of E2-E4

Dubstep

minimal whatever

90's dance/house

>>36831025
>>36830985
its actually a mixture of genres, theres techno, ambient, breakbeat hardcore etc
to try and assign that album to one genre is pointless and impossible

Surrender by Die Chemischen Brüder / House, Big Beat etc

Ambient

>>36831079
>90's dance/house
not an album genre
its like trying to say an important northern soul album, there arent any, its about the singles

>>36830745
Sound of Silver is way more distinctive of the sound though

Modern Beat Music

drone

Dark Ambient

>>36831122
but it's a good album, although the genre is largely about singles it was an important album for the 90's dance scene. Modern house is more about singles than the record.

Someone recommend me some underground French Electronic artist that isn't The Toxic Avenger,Daft Punk,Danger etc...

>>36831148

more like modern pleb music

micro house

>>36831212

>>36831193
Wow /mu/ really is pleb, even Lazare could of recommended me something

Power Electronics

Hip-hop
>TR-808 drum machine, "Rap Phoenomena"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzsdza2iyvE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXD8gvC4FQk

Cold/darkwave
>"Music Plans", "1000 Knives"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvgWXJRYNvM

House
>"Happy End" (live)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hQoNj8H4Nc

Hardly innovative, but influential.

>>36831212
Whoa sick burn

>>36831193
Pepe Bradock

>>36831218
negro please

>>36830950
I kinda liked The Private Press... The Outsider was utter shit though.

Important in what sense?

Breakcore

every genre

minimal techno

>>36830689
nope.

>>36831264
Influential, inspirational, good, etc

>>36831037
>That's not IDM
It is, though bordering ambient techno. You don't seem to know the origins of the "genre".

>a ripoff of E2-E4
If anything both that and E2-E4 are a ripoff of CTI.

>being this clueless

>>36831182
I dont agree. In the 90s even more so than today, the whole dance music scene was about parties/raves and clubs, going out and dancing to singles mixed by DJs, that was what everything revolved around. Even at home it was more common to put on a DJ mix taken from some sound desk than an album.

>>36831245
i'm going to assume you've never heard my way or very little micro house in general.

Couple of interesting reads for any history buffs kindly produced by the one of the biggest event organisers of the rave era...

http://www.fantazia.org.uk/Scene/themusic.htm
http://www.fantazia.org.uk/Scene/timeline.htm

>>36831322
If that was 100% what it was about I don't think the album would've sold so well. Most of the tracks were important at the time, although I agree that most house artists just focus on singles, Moby didn't really work that way.

>>36831310

whats is CTI?

>>36831305
Well ok...

Deep House

>>36831298
nope

>>36830985
>>36830745
>>36831148
>>36831164
lol

>>36831354
I've heard My Way, microsampling isn't as nearly widespread a technique in the genre as you make it out to be, the whole 'clicks and cuts' and glitch aesthetic present on a lot of Immer is way more prevalent in the genre.

>>36831083
It makes more sense to just say modern ambient electronic music. No one's going to argue about that. Are they?

>>36831372
Couple members of Throbbing Gristle who made perhaps the first ambient techno track ever in 1981-1982 (recorded around that time).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo8is1XSTSc

Also, Liaisons Dangereuses

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzAOlaITnWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8t5rAIV3WY

>>36831372
http://www.last.fm/music/CTI

/thread

>>36831439
Dancing Ghosts is also the first track ever to use both TR-808 and TB-303 both in a same song.

>>36831439

ah thats what i thought how can e2-e4 be a ripoff when they both came out at the same time?

>>36831310
Implying there's any difference between IDM and ambient techno

>>36831439
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo8is1XSTSc

More ambient electro maybe

>>36830931
yes, drexciya rules

>>36831478
>Implying the sanic speed breakbeat shit that gets called IDM has anything to do with ambient techno

>>36831274
this should shopped to "hibbert the rapper: you'll motherfuckers don't even watch our games"

>>36831021
I'm not sure if The Orb have that much great music. I've heard some really good stuff by them though. I do love Little Fluffy Clouds. Apparently they're ambient house, but can anyone actually distinguish that from ambient techno?

>>36831409
idk, most of it isn't ambient imo

holy shit is that a super mario bros movie thing??

Electronic

>>36830931
>>36831490
I've been meaning to start with these guys, is that album a good place to jump in?

>>36830954
does anyone have a link for this?

>>36831469
I was merely being tongue and cheek with that, but still SAW85-92 is much more closer to Dancing Ghosts than E2-E4.

>>36831478
There's a cross section and they were largely the same in the early 90s, but they aren't synonyms.

>>36831482
That's what techno sounded like in the early days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUqnPYwoiF4

Goa Trance

>>36831547

y

>>36831528
the orb's first two album are a mixture of house, ambient house, techno, ambient techno and dub techno

>>36831528
Can you distinguish techno from house? That's about it really. That album and UFOrb are their two main works, but hell if they're not some of the best in the genre.

>>36831122
>an important northern soul album, there arent any

uh

>>36831458
But that's not specific to any electronic music

I do find it funny that what was probably a joke has been seen retrospectively as a revolutionary proto-noise album

glitch

>>36831636
Systemisch was earlier, and better.

neurohop

"Modern" (late-80s-present) J-Pop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU7sRpcdSE4

"Kimi ni Mune Kyun" was a record-breaking single (for most sales) before Perfume came in with "GAME" in the 2000s.

>>36831528
the orb has plenty of terrific music, and plenty of shit music. try orbs terrarum and oblivion.

Damn the sixth track (Untitled) from Zoviet France's Monomishe isn't in youtube. It's sometimes cited as one of the first "dub techno" tracks.

>>36831708
No wait yes it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mJJJuLrJLg

production weirdness in general.

Some strong techno and electro vibes, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHFFiX2nuSQ

>>36831274
>Vaporswag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZyVCPNSKAw&list=PLMH6Jp-anlBIujW_xGVdffszNA42qAJNR&feature=player_detailpage#t=205s

I don't even know what to say about this, but it was released in 1973. Just listen to that...

Electro-industrial

>>36831836
This is very good too yes, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC1jAdiC6qM

ITT: albums some people like that happen to be electronic

>>36831957
>happen to be

Well, call them out then.

>>36831957
ITB: albums some people like
you know where you are right?

a lot of '90s hip-hop, I would imagine.

>>36830633
>potentially controversial opinion ahead

i would call endtroducing arguably the most important album of the past 30 years in any genre to be perfectly honest

think about it. it made electronic producers want to make their music sound human and organic, with the song evolving over time. it proved that "instrumental hip-hop" could be a viable thing, and even dabbled with ambient and punk elements. it was the record that radiohead were trying to emulate on ok computer.

shit is just mwah

>>36830937
you really should yeah

>>36832406
>this whole entire post

This is a really good thread. I wish we had more like this.

>>36832406
>it made electronic producers want to make their music sound human and organic, with the song evolving over time
Yeah I'm sure that's the album that started the... eh, "trend"?

>>36832406
holy shit you are a faggot

acid house

>>36832702
Yep, and electro and techno and goa, already mentioned in >>36831573

>>36832439
>>36832637
>>36832686
correct me

>>36832852
You're wrong.

>>36832406
Really it's just a more atmospheric and stylized take on turntablism. There really isn't much that's special about it, besides the fact that it was made exclusively with sampled source material. Quit the dick ridin'.

Dj shadow - Entroducing.

>>36832871
thanks

>>36832914
>it was made exclusively with sampled source material
And not that it was even special with that. DJ Krush did the same couple years earlier. Overall Endtroducing..... is just a really well made album but that's about it.

But what was the first chillout album? I think it's considered a different thing to downtempo although there's a lot of overlap. Is chillout a definitive enough term to say that there was an album that started the trend? Requesting someone's input here

>>36833088
Define "chillout".

>>36832991
True that.

>>36833088

>>36832991
Source on DJ Krush info?

>>36833145
A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The Ultraworld came out a year earlier.

>>36833128
http://www.last.fm/tag/chillout

I'm going to concede that it's essentially a catch-all term for a branch of downtempo

>>36831377
you do realize that k and d sessions influenced royksopp more than royksopp has influenced the entirety of the sub genre?

yeesh you are retarded.

>>36832702
that's not really acid, there's no tweaking
acid is all about the tweaking

there are loads of old 303 tracks like this with no tweaking but when pierre coined the term it was about doing a track with a static note sequence but turning the knobs to make the sound change, and that being the track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbIZfozk5H4

>>36833155
"Strictly Turntablized", and I think it's pretty obvious by how it sounds.

>>36833182
Unless you want to count E2-E4 and it's contemporaries the only thing that comes to my mind if Larry Heard's Ammnesia, if that counts for you. Other than that, Coldcut's early stuff maybe?

>>36833088

>>36833160
wow really
didn't know that
i thought chill out was in the shops before it
memory hazy now

if not that then maybe this?

>>36833386
Wasn't that from like 1992? I haven't heard it yet actually, should get to it.

Say what you want about Skrillex, but this definitely shook things up, good or bad

>>36833441
omfg die die die die die die

>>36833464
>DDX

>>36833410
No it was from 1990, damn I suck.

Anyway, I think there should be some obscure examples from the latter half of the 80s in the category of "chillout". I should look into that, my in-depth knowledge of 80s electronic music is lacking.

>>36833242
This is really interesting, is part of a whole documentary? I don't know much about acid house but I would've assumed the name had more of a psychedelic connection or origin...

>tfw you will never be part of a groundbreaking new scene in electronic music by messing around with current music technology with friends

>>36832914
This, besides, Josh has needed Lucas to carry him ever since Endtroducing...

>>36832702
That's not important at all, literally nobody knew about it until the late 00's

importance =/= coincidence

>>36833441
By exploiting popular styles in the most overproduced wonky way possible, maybe. The only thing this has inspired or ever will inspire is other popular American producers that make similar music

>>36833546
From a sampling based POV in dance music this was the probably one of the most singles along with Coldcuts Say Kids, What Time Is It?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGPhUr-T6UM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYiYYP257Tk

>>36833508
i think before cauty etc started their thing there wasn't really a genre as such, chill out rooms in the late 80s were playing soul, funk, slow breakbeat tracks off the b-side of dance 12s, a real mish mash
before that in the 80s there was stuff like peter baumann around (i used to hear it round hippies' houses) but that was always classed as 'new age', which didn't really help it to endure

>>36833626

Skrillex was the one to popularize it. Again, I said good or bad.

>>36833145
>>36833386
These and The Orb's debut were all concept albums? I didn't know there was such a scene from ambient house / downtempo concept albums in the early 90's, considering these are all hugely important trendsetters and they share that characteristic

Trip Hop
>Dummy
>existing without this

>>36833546
And don't forget that his work with Unkle is way more significant and groundbreaking than his entire solo discography.

>>36831573
I love goa, never heard this though, this shits awesome, I wouldnt call it goa though

>>36833675
Dubstep was popular FAR before Skrillex got his hands on it. All he popularized was 'brostep'.

>>36833649
Yeah they pretty much started the trend, but I think you could in a "backronym" sort of way trace some earlier examples too. Not that they necessarily really had any influence though.

Tonto's Expanding Head Band comes to mind but that's a bit of a stretch...

>>36833737
Yeah I wouldn't either in a serious sense.

>>36833695
>that
>existing without mark stewart

>>36833532
yeah the docu is called 'pump up the volume' it was on channel 4 in the uk

tbh the 303 was getting on a bit by 85, they were thrift store tech by then and were dirt cheap, as more and more people got disillusioned with their ability to make basslines (as they were designed to).
it was only after the acid house craze kicked off that the price shot up.

>>36833740
skrillex didnt popularize anything except himself, he did nothing original, and dubstep was plenty popular before him, hes a huge pile of shit, I hate even calling it dubstep, it really isnt, real dubstep is like skream benga and coki

>>36833727
Yeah, he was just fortunate for Endtrroducing... to get the attention it did, Strictly Turntablized was the superior album.

UNKLE should never have started using guest singers either...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfj-n0ulqT8

>>36833681
yeah basically they were marketing geniuses
cos the chill out room thing was happening at a lot of raves but it had no name
they used to do a club night called land of oz, i never went tho

>>36833824
>Strictly Turntablized was the superior album
Mah turnigga

>>36833800
>real dubstep
pleez

>>36830633
Was Endtroducing perhaps influenced in part by Paul's Boutique by the Beastie Boys? People always cite that as a major influence on various music and it must be a landmark in creating instrumental hip-hop - I know it's largely not instrumental, but the band were just rapping over what were individually vocal-less hip-hop tracks created almost entirely from samples. And it has a very laid back and downtempo vibe for hip-hop, I get a similar feeling listening to it as I do from Endtroducing.

>>36833256
>it sounds sampled
>must be sampled

cool!

>>36833800
>>36833740

Holy shit you're both autistic

>Real Dubstep

pic related

Not an album and not tied to a specific genre, but MK singehandedly brought the technique of sample chopping into popularity

The technique's never been more popular and our favourite songs wouldn't be the same without it. Go look up MK's Dub Of Doom

>>36833894
No dont you see it, it's in the NAME. Why else would it be called that huh?

>>36833824
psyence fiction had loads of guest and it's one my favourite albums ever, but I do get your point

>>36833925
All I was saying is that Skrillex's "dubstep" is nothing like normal dubstep. Don't be a cockmunch.

By the way, I find at the same time odd, delightful and disturbing that there hasn't been a single mention of Kraftwerk in this thread.

>>36833976
Oh I like Psyence Fiction, I just prefer the EPs without them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRl8kczPm1w

>>36833946
>the title has to be entirely applicable to the content of the album. this proves my airtight theory that no one else on the internet seems to acknowledge.
dam i didn't know cats could sing this well

>>36834029
Yeah, I don't care too much for them, but don't diss their innovation either.

>>36834025
>“I think the dubstep that has come over to the US, and certain producers-- who I can't even be bothered naming-- have definitely hit upon a sort of frat-boy market where there's this macho-ism being reflected in the sounds and the way the music makes you feel. And to me, that is a million miles away from where dubstep started. It's a million miles away from the ethos of it. It's been influenced so much by electro and rave, into who can make the dirtiest, filthiest bass sound, almost like a pissing competition, and that's not really necessary. And I just think that largely that is not going to appeal to women. I find that whole side of things to be pretty frustrating, because that is a direct misrepresentation of the sound as far as I'm concerned.”

Sir James Blake

Before there was Skrillex there was..

>>36834078
I don't listen to James Blake but ok

>>36834029
Well if we want to be anal, fuck Shadow and Krush, lets talk John Cage but screw that, Grandwizard Theodore deserves all the respect along with Flash and Bam.

>>36834088
That song used to be a guilty pleasure and I'd always think of /mu/ as the wubs kicked in when dubstep threads were all WUBWUBWUBWUB spam.

>>36834025
Genres change and evolve.

>>36834050
There you go.

>>36834061
The same. They had some of the biggest influence on electronic music but I don't really care for much of their releases, apart from the very first (and to an extent the second) album.

Speed garage

>>36834163
I think we should all pay our biggest respects to Grog.

>>36834078
imo the older stuff was way dirtier/nastier, the new stuff is too focused on breaks, build ups, and noise everywhere that doesnt contribute to the music, and just shittier sounds in general theres no character anymore

>>36834245
the older stuff was just produced in a way that made it sound raw, this new breed of dubstep is so overproduced it takes the word "abrasive" and runs off a cliff with it.

>>36834245
exactly why I don't listen to bass anymore. the british managed to make a great thing boring again. its like trance past 1999 all over again where everyone knows the gig is up but they're working in breaks and other stuff so they can pretend they're still not just trance producers

>>36834241
>listening to post-Caveman repititions

>>36834172
But it isn't anything like normal dubstep. It's too engrained in electro house music. Plus, why the fuck are you even responding to me? Do you even know what the discussion was even about?

>>36834330
So do you put like a highpass filter on everything you listen to?

>>36834341
Yes, do you? This is a tiresome conversation.

>>36834311
>>36834330
this

>>36831046
listen to old big apple recordings from skream, benga, el-b, hatcha, artwork and all that lot.
they were all making dubstep before this.
especially el-b

>>36834241
that tryhard "humor"

>>36834442
>not liking ishkur's sense of humor

>>36834395
Your response to me was irrelevant. I was discussing how unoriginal and unimportant Skrilex's style is and you responded by saying "genres change and evolve" as if that would have been relevant even if the American dubstep sound was actually anything but a hybrid.

post fav dubstep

>>36834531
In response to you saying it's not """"""real dubstep""""""""""""".

>>36834420
dubstep definitely wasn't one single leap forward, not until specific styles split off, at least

>>36833800
Oh my god you are such a fucking faggot, please leave.

>>36834608
I Never once said Skrillex isn't 'real dubstep'. I said it's nothing like dubstep originally was and is so different that it probably shouldn't be considered 'dubstep'.

>>36834745
>"I hate even calling it dubstep, it really isnt, real dubstep is like..."

Although I'll give to you that not nearly everything he makes is dubstep.

>>36834241
Is the guide finally updated

>>36834819
You wish.

>>36834819
Just looks like a new tuturial

>>36834866
It's been there for years. Only thing I've noticed changing is that he's taking some samples off, probably due to copyright claims or something. I remember there used to be a sample of Wormhole on Neurofunk.

>>36834866
And wow, its really shitty.

>>36834866
>>36834855

>>36834800
>"I hate even calling it dubstep, it really isnt, real dubstep is like..."

I wasn't the one who said that.
His style is more similar to House than to dubstep either way. Hybridizing a genre with other styles is not "evolving" the genre.

>>36834943
no u

>>36834918
much better sources around, that 'new tutorial' layout is really well, shite. Why make a shitty pop up scroll box like that and need 14 pages.

>>36834997
are you ishkur?

Psychedelic

some say this EP was the main precursor to the development of glitch-hop.

>>36834990
You should adopt a tripcode ;))

>>36835008
I know, I'm just biased. The presentation and usability of the tutorial could use some work though.

>>36835034
..sure why not

proto-dubstep:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km7B83qI4kU

>>36835047
>psychedelic

>>36835092
proto-dubstep:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyO09nD4zyA

>>36835047

psychedelic

>>36835165
i lol'd

biscuit status:
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[x] taken

>>36835188

psychedelic

god tier stuff for you ungrateful cunts:

Squarepusher - Go Plastic
Aphex Twin - Drukqs
Boards of Canada - Geogaddi
Drexciya - Neptune's Lair
Dopplereffekt - Calabi Yau Space
AFX - Analord series

holger hiller - as is

>>36835229
>Squarepusher - Go Plastic
Not Normal Hard Daddy

>>36835229
OH WOW, U SO PATRISH, THANKS DUDE

>>36835269
hard normal daddy*

and yeah,. either's fine. also feed me weird things

>>36834395
hahahah he means bass as in bass music not the actual bass in music you fucking idiot

not an album but a really fucking important record

Trance

>>36835352
REALLY?

>>36835379
>Psytrance
That's a style of Psychedelic yo

>no me

Ibiza

>>36835379
At least you dumped the "psychedelic". Also, that album is hardly important in any sense of the word.

>>36835269
Correct, Go Plastic is not Hard Normal Daddy.

>>36835379
the gathering >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything else IM

>>36835414
shhh, alcoholic, you aren't even the best breaks producer in our fair city

>>36835411
But it still is part of trance, hence why I called it just trance. But I do know that it u s psychedelic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwIdglRbgnw

>>36835534
>this fucking guy

can't believe this isn't here yet

Good amount of people consider this asva classic of trance.

>>36835586
Yes?

>>36835460
Who is then?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zaSzHqVrLA

>>36835654
Take your pick, we have plenty; Adam Freeland, Krafty Kuts, Ed Solo, the list goes on... Norm is cool though, throws a good beach party.

http://thedjlist.com/world/United_Kingdom/Brighton/djs/

>>36835602
You're right..
>mfw

>>36835602
I can't believe it is, wow.

Relatively big influence on old skool hip hop iirc

>>36831156
Whats this called?

>>36830995
But that's a single, and not their best one at that. Why not using pic related instead?

>>36836117
cover_463771102010[1].jpg

>>36830633

Electronic-Rock

>inb4 RH hate

>>36836589
>Referring to Radiohead as RH

>>36836650

... is that a ... taboo or something?

I'm kinda new to /mu/

>>36836589
Its called indietronica

>>36836715
>indietronica
You mean like early Kraftwerk?

Rap was never going to be the same after this

>>36835602
boring and lazy
homework was so much better

>>36836756
Not in the slightest like Kraftwerk

>>36836756

>>36836715

For some reason I have trouble associating Radiohead to indie...

>>36836837
nice thumbnail

>>36836589
>Kid A
>Electronica

Two songs =/= The entire album

>>36836959

Electronica != Electronic Music (which is what is referred to in OP)

Suck it.

Breakbeat

>>36831156
Do you have a link for this? The archive has turned up with nothing.

>>36830633
'epic' trance, afaik

>>36833223
>a sub-par tri-hop record was more influential to downtempo than the most important downtempo album
top kek

>>36831298
That's ar remix album that isn't even downtempo for the most part

Post-Rock