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/mu/ doesn't actually play music. Sorry to disappoint

Violonist reporting in, any particular questions?

>>36820715
Nah it's alright. At least someone bothered to tell me ... Thank you. :/

As someone who has very limited experience on the cello after playing piano for awhile, your primary difficulty will be getting a clear and constant sound using the bow. Sorry I don't know any more.

>>36820450
i wish i could help you but i can't. good luck finding some help. there's not many musicians here.

>>36820747
I concurr! Pressure, along with a correct ammount or rosin will be a big step towards a stable sound.

Also, look up proper pose so you don't fuck up your arms.

>>36820734
>Is there anything really difficult about playing the violin if so what?

>Is there any terminology that'd be useful for me to know?

>>36820798
As I said, pressure on the bow, rosin, posture.

I'd also add that you should learn how to smooth movement out to get a constant sound. Don't cheap on strings cause they actually influence the sound to some extent, or aleast inanely cheap strings sound bad.

There's an initial toughness in "getting it" with correct bow movement. As buzzing with brass instruments, once you get over it it eases up.

Learns the parts to some extent, materials. Get up and running on theory for the violin is a technical instyrument and as a bonus, read un on maintenance.

What are you aiming for?

have u seen the dubstep violin girl

its f*ckin EPIC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHjpOzsQ9YI

>>36820774
Thank you I appreciate it! I kind of gathered their weren't a lot around from >>36820715

>>36820747
Nah it's all good in dah hood. Any help is good.

>>36820781
>Also, look up proper pose so you don't fuck up your arms.
I shall do this.

>>36820867
What is the rosin? Probably a really nooby question :S

And as for what I'm aiming for I'm aiming for:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inb8MMZ-QmA
This is what initially inspired me. Basically all her music. For me it's less about composing as it is being able to play on that kind of level as her. Granted I know it'll take a lot of time but I'm completely willing to spend hours and hours at this. To get this shit right.

>>36820898
OP, tip:
depending on the tone be very sparse with rosin. To get a smooth tone like that dub violin it's less about rosin and more about pressure.

At first you might be tempted to apply a shitton of rosin just to get a noise faster but it'll sound as twangy as as redneck hilbilly's old fiddle. Practice pressure.

As someone who has played the upright bass for 8 years and played the violin for 3, 1) don't fucking show off, 2) keep your bow at a good tension, 3) use rosin regularly but lightly, and 4) put in the time to get your damn left hand/arm position correct, it makes a world of difference

>>36820959
I still do not know what rosin is. Could someone explain

>>36820974
basically a block of sap that makes your bow grip the strings more
not using it will give you a very airy sound, using to much will make you sound like a dumbass who uses too much rosin

>>36820969
ahw what, no more upright bass?
do you still play it now you've learned violin?

>>36820945
read my post for the tone, we're in luck here OP, gambit is afoot

rosin comes from pine trees, it's that sticky substance. it's condensed in a block that you can slide your bow on, it's vital to get tone (even more so if you try to use the bow on a guitar ala sigur ros/jimmy page) but you have to be sparse with it or it impairs you playing and makes things too twangy; not what you're looking for.

I'm self taught and I compose and luckily I can tell you will is 90% of it. will you get a teacher?

>>36821010
nope, I worded that wrong
I started out with violin then switched over to upright
though in the past couple years I've really slacked off with it and mostly just play slap bass and some jazz

>>36820969
OP the Dr is in and has it 100%, when playing don't go apish like Lindsey Stirling in her vids, stay very stable. it you're filming a music vid, then go apish

>>36821011
>I'm self taught and I compose and luckily I can tell you will is 90% of it. will you get a teacher
Most likely, yes. Unless it's actually better to try and self teach myself?

>>36821057
as far as starting from scratch you'd probably be better off with a teacher, teaching yourself the foundations can lead to bad habits (as is the case with any instrument)

>>36820450
That shitty dubstep cunt

>>36821035
What is apish..? I'm probably not gonna film a music video since I'm just starting out... Maybe in the distant future

Thank you +++Dr. btw for all the help so far

>>36821057
Only reason I didn't get a teacher is because I am damned broke; by all means go for it OP if you have the greens to go with it. Self teaching won't help posture. at all.

But do experiment, OP. it's the key to musical individualism. Since you're a /mu/ newcomer let me brainwash you a bit: listen to more string music and more dub. already sketch out things, begin producing. Get it on, small steps are for Tyrion Lannister.
Is it all OP? Any other questions? Wanna shoot the shit?

>>36821112
don't move too much I mean; stay stable.

bump, OP did you die?

>>36821283
No I am typing something atm.

>>36821084
I should be fine expense wise it's just a matter of finding one.

>>36821114
To be completely honest I don't think I'd be able to make my own music. I don't really think of myself as creative. But who knows maybe.

And I listen to pretty much everything as is. For me everything has something to offer. I'll go and look up more stringed/dubstep shit. If anyone has any songs to drop off please do so. I'll go through them all :O

As for other questions I can't think of any off the top of my head.

Thank you all for all the help so far!! When this thread first started I wasn't expecting many replies ... But you've all broken my expectations. Thank you

>>36821378
>stringed/dubstep shit
wait when did dubstep get thrown into the mix?

>>36820898
i'm honestly surprised she can play in tune with that left hand.

protip, do not imitate her left arm/wrist/hand. you will fuck yourself up and never become able to actually play.

>>36821378
keeping you alive OP!

Just mess around, you'd be surprised at how you can pick up MAKING music.


Get entry level with Burial - Untrue, downlaod that it'll set you on the right track!

Whelp, I shouldve put my name earlier now Dr is getting all the recog heh, well god day OP for I am going to sleep. Good luck, I hope you like /mu/ in your visit.

>>36821411
Lindsey Stirling initially inspired me to learn the violin. Her music is sort of a mix of violin dubstep. It is insanely good

>>36821464
ah I see
well if you're looking for more modern (and /mu/-approved) electronic music utilizing strings I recommend Ganglion by Saltillo and Rossz Csillag Szulettet by Venetian Snares

>>36821426
I'll make sure to remember all dat

>>36821461
Thank u tendai your help didn't go unnoticed ;p Night'

>>36821524
Listening to them now...

Why are so many people posting Linsdey Stirling all of a sudden. Even on my facebook wall.

>>36821542
how far are you planning to progress skill-wise on the violin? as far as that dancing girl?
depending on how good you plan to be, your setup and form can be absolutely crucial. obviously that girl has terrible form but still can make a sound, but if you're going to be practicing seriously for any significant amount of time, you will run a high risk of injury and also look kind of dumb to musicians who know how to play...

>>36821577
It was foretold the prophecy two hundred and twenty seven years ago... That on June 4th she would get a shit ton of views. And maybe it's cause she is on tour right now? But yeah I've also noticed that she was on facebook more

>>36820450
The Violin, or any musical instrument is all about commitment. The more you play, the better you get. It's that simple.

>>36821605
I saw a couple of her videos like a year ago and went like 'heh that's kind of cool' and never gave it another view. Are people seriously liking her music.

>>36821624
remember the bond girls who played those pop violin versions of hit songs?

i presume this is a similar fad updated for 201x

>Violin
>dubstep
>goofy dance moves
>more attractive than the average bear

>>36821596
Yah. As of right now my goal is to get as good as her eventually. Once I reach that point I'll try and figure out where I should go from there. o.o

Also to clarify I don't really plan on performing in front of anyone really. Maybe for my close friends I'd play but that'd be about it. This is more of a self interest thing, that could be really useful later on.

>if you're going to be practicing seriously for any significant amount of time you will run a high risk of injury
Can you explain to me how? And I do plan on practicing for a long time then have some intervals for a few hours and go back.

>>36821648
ok, i guess you can go self-taught then.

>injury
the violin is not an easy instrument to play. the position of the violin is not entirely natural; you have to hold up your violin way up and to the left. you have to resist the pressure downwards that your right arm (bow) produces as well the weight of the instrument and your arm. at the same time, you have to hold it in such a way that your whole hand and fingers can have a range of free movement along the axis that the strings are on.

professional classical musicians have collectively spent literally millions of hours in the last half century alone studying posture, muscular/tendons/joint anatomy, reading books, writing books, experimenting with technique - all in the name of reducing tension and making it so you can actually play this instrument for hours without ruining your back, neck, wrist, shoulder, etc. i myself in my 13th year of violin study had tendinitis in my right arm/wrist (slightly more unusual than left) and had to take almost 8 months off from playing. it's because making the same movements hundreds of times a day (pronation/supination of arm/wrist) wears on your body. imagine, i dont know, putting on and taking off a pair of glasses a few thousand times (vague estimate of # of notes in a bach solo partita). you'd feel some strain after the first hundred, right?

this is why it's so important that people who are going to be attempting to play their instrument seriously be set up by a good teacher so that they don't end up with problems down the road. because you'll probably end up spending hundreds or thousands of hours doing the same family of repetitive motions and you need to do them right.

like any athlete, you have to learn how to do it properly or you'll get injured.

i know that was rambling but do you have any more specific questions? 16 years of violin/viola study here all night.

>>36821648
oh yeah, i meant to mention that the violin/dubstep girl's wrist is like, flat against the neck for some reason. don't do that. your wrist should more or less be on a straight line with your forearm. curling in or splaying back like she's doing creates serious tension in the tendons that control your wrist joint. also it makes it incredibly hard to shift and do vibrato.