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>>28531259
>Excellent movie too.

The movie sucked. Pretentious garbage that dicked around and did nothing for 3 hours.

>>28531339
you know nothing about film, go kill yourself

been wanting fantano to review this for a while now

>>28531405
He's right though...
It was beautifully shot, wonderfully acted, and horribly written. A big letdown for a hardcore PTA fan such as myself.

>>28531919
>being a hardcore PTA fan

>>28531339
>>28531919
>>28532013
>they can't into The Master

>>28532013
>Boogie Nights
>Magnolia
>There Will Be Blood
>3/10 = 30% of the best films of the last 15 years

>>28532121
Are you saying there have only been 10 great films in the last 15 years

>>28532121
Eh
>>28532052
Haven't seen it. Basically all I've heard though is what >>28531919 said

>>28532121

>Magnolia
>good

>Boogie Nights
>anything other than extremely well made pap

>There Will Be Blood
>what in the fuck are you doing with the last 20 minutes

He is a good director but his fanboys are outrageously retarded

>music from a D-List Actor

lel

>>28532179
Kevin Smith is that you

>>28532156
>30% of the best films
>of the best films
>the best films
>best films
>best
>not understanding a basic comparative clause
>being an idiot

>>28532210

Tell me one interesting coherent idea that Anderson has explored throughout the duration of a single movie other than Punch-Drunk Love. Throwing out a bunch of ambitious ideas and not seeing any of them through does not make one an ambiguous genius or a master of the surreal. It makes one half-baked and lazy.

>>28532210
Kevin Smith makes me sick.
inb4 >>>/tv/, /tv/ is fucking useless at actually discussing films

>>28532179
I loved the ending to There Will Be Blood.

Also, I would normally say this is a music board, but seeing as /tv/ is probably too pleb to even talk about PT, this is fine.

>>28532237
>thinking a film needs coherent ideas or explorations to be good
that second year of film school is gonna be tough, bro.

>>28532264

I really don't understand how someone can like the ending. How does it fit with the rest of the movie? Is Anderson saying something about the conflict of faith and capital? Is he saying something about what happens when ambition comes up against an obtuse desire to rely on tradition? Civilization vs. ignorance? PLEASE SOMEONE EXPLAIN HOW THAT ENDING DOESN'T SUCK.

>>28532309

I'm guessing you're content watching Amurrican movies that have pretty pictures and good performances to the end of your days. Enjoy that shitty understanding of film bro.

>>28532319
This hits the major points, I think.

http://my.opera.com/noisewar/blog/2008/01/28/therewillbeblood

>>28532179
TWBB is amazing

>>28532319
It's the conclusion of the two opposing forces throughout the movie, it's the climax of the main idea of the film, and all of that you just said. Explain how it does suck.

>>28532371

What is the climax? What is Anderson saying? It seems deliberately opaque with very little purpose.

>>28532347
You're not arguing very well. You first said that PTA sucks because he can't keep coherence. I said that equating good filmmaking with coherence is ridiculously stupid, and you shoot back with this "pretty pictures and good performaces" bullshit?

Name a Fellini film that wraps up all the themes with a tight little bow. Films/storytelling that is coherent is a product of the american cinema, as is this strange idea that film (as with NOTHING else in life) needs to be tidily done.

>>28532363
No Country for Old Men is the superior 2007 western, but TWBB is a masterpiece as well.

>>28532498
>film needs transparency and purpose in order to be good
Look everybody, it's Lars von Trier

>>28532498
The pastor and the capitalist had an antagonistic relationship the entire movie. I think it alludes to other stuff as well.

I don't know what you mean.

>>28532578
But TWBB is the better adaptation. Eat that, motherfucker.

>>28532498
please read this >>28532353

>>28532611
But No Country has better storytelling. I ate that and came back for seconds, bitch.

>>28532559

I would say La Dolce Vita does exactly that. Also, having a coherent idea does in no way imply that the film itself must be coherent in terms of plot. Does Mulholland Dr. not convey a deliberate idea and have an actual purpose?

The issue with Blood is that it deliberately positions itself as a movie that is rich with allegories and ideas about religion etc but ultimately it doesn't offer any of the ideas that it suggests it holds. I find it cold and dull.

>>28532578

The Assassination of Jesse James... is clearly the best of the 3

>>28532654
How doesn't it offer any of those ideas? I don't see how it positions itself to be rich with allegories, either. It seems as if you're intentionally trying to hate it.

>stop by /mu/ for a sharethread
>wind up in the shittiest discussion of PTA by a group of prepube know-it-alls

>>28532677
I honestly haven't seen it, so I can't comment.

I'm not nearly as well-versed in movies as I am music.

>>28532726
>tfw not well versed in either, i just like PTA
teach me your patrician ways pls

>>28532716

I don't hate it. I saw it 6 times in theaters because I was so confused by it. It's a movie that I think is almost technically perfect but has almost no heart. I feel absolutely no connection to the movie and it's not one that draws me into its world at all. Aside from a few staggering sequences I think it's an interesting stylistic departure for PTA but not one that produced a very watchable movie.

>>28532768
lel, I'm well-versed in music compared to 99.99% of the world, but not to some of the people on /mu/. I would consider myself a pleb here.

Haven't seen the film but had an orgasm to the OST.

>>28532813
I'm listening to Nurse With Wound and I don't think I "get it".
maybe i'm not cut out for this place.

>>28532847
What album?

>>28532796
>feels no connection to the movie
>isn't drawn into the movie
>mfw disconnection, abandonment and empty longing are some of the best-handled themes of the film

these burgers taste like ass

>>28532883
Homotopy to Marie

>>28532913
Have you listened to anything close to industrial before? Is this your first time listening to the album?

>>28532966
I was recommended them because I liked Swans' "industrial" albums quite a lot, but I don't see how this is comparable. This is the first I've listened to, but I have Throbbing Gristle and Foetus in my backlog.

I'm just finishing this album. It's pretty interesting, I feel like I like it, but I don't know what just happened. lel.

>>28533046
Give it a day then listen to it again.

>>28533062
Okay. Anything else I should be cutting my teeth on? Sorry I derailed the film discussion thread on /mu/ with music lol.

>>28532578
>Calling There Will Be Blood a western

>>28533108
If you like early swans you should also listen to more no wave if you haven't already. DNA, early Sonic Youth, Glenn Branca, and Theoretical Girls, to start.

I really haven't listened to much industrial. Maybe also try This Heat's s/t and their album Deceit as well.

>>28533237
This Heat isn't industrial, but there are some similarities with them and some Nurse with Wound.