Why the fuck do people like joy division? It is the most fucking entry level shit in terms of post punk. Why do people only listen to entry level stuff and not even bother giving the slightest amount of effort into searching the rest of a genre where they could find albums that are 10 times as good as the entry level stuff. It is fucking disgusting that you fucking philistines come to this board AND SHIT IT UP WITH YOUR FUCKING IGNORANCE!